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No One Is Too Small to Make a Difference (Green Ideas)
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Not impressed.
Rating. We start at 5 stars:
+6 stars: I give it an extra star for the author's devotion to nature (+1 star), young age (+1 star), determination (+1 star), mental illness (+1 star), another +1 star so that she wouldn't cry (or sulk or whatever she does to terrorize her parents) and for everything else that I couldn't give a damn to care to remember or list (+1 star).
-1 star for repetitiveness
-1 star for no solutions suggested
-1 star for boring writing, as she isn't 8 to write so simply.
-1 star for further polluting the world with creating more trash during her protests, using that ludicrous boat to travel (with 2 sailor teams that fly to and fro) and trains and everything.
-1 star for lies: Q: This is not a political text. (c) Of-freaking-course it is.
-1 star for this alleged book not being a book but a pamphlet with some rants.
-1 star for preaching to the choir. We know that all of this is going to hell in a handbasket. We just don't know how to stop it.
-1 star for wrongly stating that we have all solutions today. And at another point rambling about 'thinking cathedrally'. We don't have all the necessary solutions in place and we are already quite 'cathedral-thinking', thank you so much.
-1 star for wrongly choosing the auditory. The influencers and politicians and random public are not the people that actually can do something. It's not about Trump being difficult or Merkel being lazy or some influencer evangelist Nico or Mary or whoever from I don't care where influencing people about lipstick and shoes instead of climate change. It's the scientists who should catch the ball, not about being alarmist but rather about having solutions. We don't have all the necessary tech (clean energy, wasteless processes, zero footprint food, etc) invented and implemented. Almost nothing today is zero carbon footprint no matter what the scientists might claim.
-1 star for being illiterate and subjecting public to her illiterate rants about stuff way above Greta's very limited skills. Going to school and getting some education to be able to actually do something useful might be a way to remedy this: how about inventing some new energy sources (clean and applicable everywhere!), Greta?
The end result is 1 star. Which, frankly, is very generous for this original-ish but pointless rant collection.
Q:
Last summer, climate scientist Johan Rockström and some other people wrote that we have at most three years to reverse growth in greenhouse-gas emissions if we’re going to reach the goals set in the Paris Agreement.
Over a year and two months have now passed, and in that time many other scientists have said the same thing and a lot of things have got worse and greenhouse-gas emissions continue to increase. So maybe we have even less time than the one year and ten months Johan Rockström said we have left.
If people knew this they wouldn’t need to ask me why I’m so ‘passionate about climate change�.
If people knew that the scientists say that we have a 5 per cent chance of meeting the Paris target, and if people knew what a nightmare scenario we will face if we don’t keep global warming below 2°C, they wouldn’t need to ask me why I’m on school strike outside parliament. (c) People know that, Greta. They aren't illiterate dolts, unlike what you think.
Q:
Because if everyone knew how serious the situation is and how little is actually being done, everyone would come and sit down beside us. (c) Right. Because so many things are solved by sitting down in the middle of the street. I'm kidding. Spoiler: they never are. You have to get your ass up and do things: invent cleaner energy and implement it afterwards, everywhere. Have fun (not!)
Q:
When I was about eight years old, I first heard about something called climate change, or global warming. (c) You shouldn't have stopped developing your skills at that point. Today you would've been able to make sense and maybe some impact. In 2 years you'll be 18, adult and no one will think you cutesy anymore. They'll just relabel you to, well, problematic and will be done with you.
Q:
I think in many ways that we autistic are the normal ones and the rest of the people are pretty strange. (c) There are no normal people. Whatever spectrum or neuromake-up.
Q:
If the emissions have to stop, then we must stop the emissions. (c) No shit Sherlock! How? How would you effing live without the computer you printed this BS on, without shoes you wear, without sandwitches you eat, without trains and boats and planes and cars and everything you use to move from point A to point B, without the meds that help you (or not)... Try growing some grain to make it into bread and you'll see what's wrong with this idea and why it's so stupid.
Q:
Either we go on as a civilization or we don’t. ...
Either we choose to go on as a civilization or we don’t. (c) We aren't much of a civilization, frankly. If an illiterate teen is made into some saint maybe we should just stop existing and pave the way to some more intellectually developed civilisation? I say either Greta goes to school, finally, or we don't. How about that? Civilization strike, anyone?
Q:
Are we evil?
No, of course not. (c) Of course we are. Don't kid yourself.
Q:
No one is acting as if we were in a crisis. ...
I don’t want you to be hopeful.
I want you to panic.
I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. (c) So, we are supposed to act like we are in some crisis? Like, scream and run randomly about doing nothing? Is that the illustrious course of action we are supposed to undertake?
Q:
Even most green politicians and climate scientists go on flying around the world, eating meat and dairy. (c) Even your sailors do.
Q:
Some people say that I should study to become a climate scientist so that I can ‘solve the climate crisis�. But the climate crisis has already been solved.
We already have all the facts and solutions. All we have to do is to wake up and change. (c)Optimistic much. You're misinformed, Greta. Go learn some Georgaphy and Economics and Physics. There are no viable generally applicable solutions.
Q:
But I think that if a few children can get headlines all over the world just by not going to school for a few weeks, imagine what we all could do together if we wanted to. (c) Get a billion of headlines or what?
Q:
The real power belongs to the people. (c) Too bad it's not brainpower.
Q:
We know that most politicians don’t want to talk to us. Good, we don’t want to talk to them either. We want them to talk to the scientists instead. (c) Finally. Some practioners needed not theoreticians. You basically need to change everything in our economies. And you don't need to talk about climate. You need to talk about how our billions of people can live without changing it. There's the rub.
Q:
I write my own speeches... I often ask for input. I also have a few scientists that I frequently ask for help on how to express certain complicated matters. (c) Uh-huh. So large chunks of this stuff are what adults tell her.
Q:
During the last six months I have travelled around Europe for hundreds of hours in trains, electric cars and buses, repeating these life-changing words over and over again. But no one seems to be talking about it... (c) Actually, people are. It would have been more nature-oriented not to do that.
Q:
We children are not sacrificing our education and our childhood for you to tell us what you consider is politically possible in the society that you have created. (c) Go and create a better one. Be my guest.
Q:
Avoiding climate breakdown will require cathedral thinking. We must lay the foundation while we may not know exactly how to build the ceiling. (c)
That's a very bad analogy.
York Minster Cathedral? 252 years to build?
Sagrada Famiglia? Work in progress since 1882?
If so, we are doing just fine with the climate, relax? We are thinking quite cathedrally already, stumbling about at random.
Rating. We start at 5 stars:
+6 stars: I give it an extra star for the author's devotion to nature (+1 star), young age (+1 star), determination (+1 star), mental illness (+1 star), another +1 star so that she wouldn't cry (or sulk or whatever she does to terrorize her parents) and for everything else that I couldn't give a damn to care to remember or list (+1 star).
-1 star for repetitiveness
-1 star for no solutions suggested
-1 star for boring writing, as she isn't 8 to write so simply.
-1 star for further polluting the world with creating more trash during her protests, using that ludicrous boat to travel (with 2 sailor teams that fly to and fro) and trains and everything.
-1 star for lies: Q: This is not a political text. (c) Of-freaking-course it is.
-1 star for this alleged book not being a book but a pamphlet with some rants.
-1 star for preaching to the choir. We know that all of this is going to hell in a handbasket. We just don't know how to stop it.
-1 star for wrongly stating that we have all solutions today. And at another point rambling about 'thinking cathedrally'. We don't have all the necessary solutions in place and we are already quite 'cathedral-thinking', thank you so much.
-1 star for wrongly choosing the auditory. The influencers and politicians and random public are not the people that actually can do something. It's not about Trump being difficult or Merkel being lazy or some influencer evangelist Nico or Mary or whoever from I don't care where influencing people about lipstick and shoes instead of climate change. It's the scientists who should catch the ball, not about being alarmist but rather about having solutions. We don't have all the necessary tech (clean energy, wasteless processes, zero footprint food, etc) invented and implemented. Almost nothing today is zero carbon footprint no matter what the scientists might claim.
-1 star for being illiterate and subjecting public to her illiterate rants about stuff way above Greta's very limited skills. Going to school and getting some education to be able to actually do something useful might be a way to remedy this: how about inventing some new energy sources (clean and applicable everywhere!), Greta?
The end result is 1 star. Which, frankly, is very generous for this original-ish but pointless rant collection.
Q:
Last summer, climate scientist Johan Rockström and some other people wrote that we have at most three years to reverse growth in greenhouse-gas emissions if we’re going to reach the goals set in the Paris Agreement.
Over a year and two months have now passed, and in that time many other scientists have said the same thing and a lot of things have got worse and greenhouse-gas emissions continue to increase. So maybe we have even less time than the one year and ten months Johan Rockström said we have left.
If people knew this they wouldn’t need to ask me why I’m so ‘passionate about climate change�.
If people knew that the scientists say that we have a 5 per cent chance of meeting the Paris target, and if people knew what a nightmare scenario we will face if we don’t keep global warming below 2°C, they wouldn’t need to ask me why I’m on school strike outside parliament. (c) People know that, Greta. They aren't illiterate dolts, unlike what you think.
Q:
Because if everyone knew how serious the situation is and how little is actually being done, everyone would come and sit down beside us. (c) Right. Because so many things are solved by sitting down in the middle of the street. I'm kidding. Spoiler: they never are. You have to get your ass up and do things: invent cleaner energy and implement it afterwards, everywhere. Have fun (not!)
Q:
When I was about eight years old, I first heard about something called climate change, or global warming. (c) You shouldn't have stopped developing your skills at that point. Today you would've been able to make sense and maybe some impact. In 2 years you'll be 18, adult and no one will think you cutesy anymore. They'll just relabel you to, well, problematic and will be done with you.
Q:
I think in many ways that we autistic are the normal ones and the rest of the people are pretty strange. (c) There are no normal people. Whatever spectrum or neuromake-up.
Q:
If the emissions have to stop, then we must stop the emissions. (c) No shit Sherlock! How? How would you effing live without the computer you printed this BS on, without shoes you wear, without sandwitches you eat, without trains and boats and planes and cars and everything you use to move from point A to point B, without the meds that help you (or not)... Try growing some grain to make it into bread and you'll see what's wrong with this idea and why it's so stupid.
Q:
Either we go on as a civilization or we don’t. ...
Either we choose to go on as a civilization or we don’t. (c) We aren't much of a civilization, frankly. If an illiterate teen is made into some saint maybe we should just stop existing and pave the way to some more intellectually developed civilisation? I say either Greta goes to school, finally, or we don't. How about that? Civilization strike, anyone?
Q:
Are we evil?
No, of course not. (c) Of course we are. Don't kid yourself.
Q:
No one is acting as if we were in a crisis. ...
I don’t want you to be hopeful.
I want you to panic.
I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. (c) So, we are supposed to act like we are in some crisis? Like, scream and run randomly about doing nothing? Is that the illustrious course of action we are supposed to undertake?
Q:
Even most green politicians and climate scientists go on flying around the world, eating meat and dairy. (c) Even your sailors do.
Q:
Some people say that I should study to become a climate scientist so that I can ‘solve the climate crisis�. But the climate crisis has already been solved.
We already have all the facts and solutions. All we have to do is to wake up and change. (c)Optimistic much. You're misinformed, Greta. Go learn some Georgaphy and Economics and Physics. There are no viable generally applicable solutions.
Q:
But I think that if a few children can get headlines all over the world just by not going to school for a few weeks, imagine what we all could do together if we wanted to. (c) Get a billion of headlines or what?
Q:
The real power belongs to the people. (c) Too bad it's not brainpower.
Q:
We know that most politicians don’t want to talk to us. Good, we don’t want to talk to them either. We want them to talk to the scientists instead. (c) Finally. Some practioners needed not theoreticians. You basically need to change everything in our economies. And you don't need to talk about climate. You need to talk about how our billions of people can live without changing it. There's the rub.
Q:
I write my own speeches... I often ask for input. I also have a few scientists that I frequently ask for help on how to express certain complicated matters. (c) Uh-huh. So large chunks of this stuff are what adults tell her.
Q:
During the last six months I have travelled around Europe for hundreds of hours in trains, electric cars and buses, repeating these life-changing words over and over again. But no one seems to be talking about it... (c) Actually, people are. It would have been more nature-oriented not to do that.
Q:
We children are not sacrificing our education and our childhood for you to tell us what you consider is politically possible in the society that you have created. (c) Go and create a better one. Be my guest.
Q:
Avoiding climate breakdown will require cathedral thinking. We must lay the foundation while we may not know exactly how to build the ceiling. (c)
That's a very bad analogy.
York Minster Cathedral? 252 years to build?
Sagrada Famiglia? Work in progress since 1882?
If so, we are doing just fine with the climate, relax? We are thinking quite cathedrally already, stumbling about at random.
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Peter wrote: "A word of advice from someone with life experience: if the world is on fire, sitting in the street (or fake-sailing around the Atlantic) screaming... is but a lousy way to stop it." Yep! And having public tantrums won't help. As well as screaming and panicking and whatever else she suggested. :)

* "whatever else her handlers suggested"




Besides, it's not enough to invent, say, solar energy.
You also have to invent how to use it in Norilsk and Utqiagvik, for example, round the year.
You also have to invent how to power New York, Paris and the rest of it all by solar only, round the year.
You also have to invent some way to cleanly feed all the currently living billions of people. Who still procreate.
You also have to do something about all the trash we steadily produce. And I'd really love to see some solutions to the microplastic problem, as well.
Everything else: transportation, production of all sorts (clothes, meds, everything) would also have to be changed from the root. In other words, you wouldn't have anymore of Coca-Cola, hamburgers, sneakers, oestrogen pills (or most of other ones), plane travel, anything plastic or of paper, no stove of any kind other that electic one, no computer at your disposal, no energy to power it ... Even the Tesla cars - are you really sure they are produced in a way that takes nothing from the environment? Can you drive them around Antarctica?
Also, it's not enough to invent those things, you also have to implement them, which is yet another ring of hell.
So, how the blazing crazes is any politician (i.e. a person qualified to babble with authority) supposed to, say, develop a way to produce superecological fully recyclable sneakers without taking anything from the nature, without any emissions, without any trash and without any evironment footprint? That's a task for scientists and professionals not for polititians.
I'd really love to see how all of that could be solved by planting trees. So, I'd really take all those nifty articles with a cup of salt (a grain won't cut it).
From how I see it, it's a giant tangle of problems that are very unlikely to be solved by either planting trees or by traditional environmental remedies that you don't remember. I'm sorry, but real life is a bitch and needs a crapload of more invention and innovation happening before we can be back at home with our planet.


Add to that that in massive cities it won't cover all the needs.
And in places where solarization is at most 1 full day a year (2 when people are extra lucky) - it wouldn't do even that at all. And it's those places that need it all for basic amenities, like central heating and hot water.

We do know how to stop climate change but it takes everybody to do. People don't want to because that requires sacrifice and huge change such as not using coal and using solar power. Her title is right though, no change is too small, whether that be not using straws anymore to recycling.

As they say: liberals would burn the world to the ground as long as they got to rule over the ashes.

Also, Peter, your comment about liberals wasn’t cool. I’m a proud liberal and we don’t want to rule the world. We simply just want to make it better. We want it to be more equal and more fair for everybody around us.

Look at all the smart people running Venuezuela. Maybe even smarter than you, and they had all the underground oil in the world! But they thought they were smart and now there is no gas, barely any electricity, and a once-rich nation is starving. You'll say, "that's not what we're trying to do." The problem is creep. Step by step you take more and more power, subject people to more and more regulation until finally you have complete power over all aspects of daily life in the hands of the ruling elite. Then you crush them. And heaven forbid that the elite shrinks you out of its inner circle --the outlook isn't bright for those who cross the Machine.
The problem is that you believe regular people like Americans can't manage things. Maybe you can't be bothered to plant a tree yourself, but you can go online "keyboard strong" and rant at other people that they need to plant trees. You know, I can plant a tree if I want to. I don't need government aid to do it, and I don't need a penalty if I don't do it. You love those two ideas--but they're both inherently UNFAIR and UNEQUAL.
Fantastic Reagan quote: No intellectual elite in a far-distant capitol can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.
A nice way to solve the problem would be to enrich everyone to where they could all afford to plant some nice trees themselves, wouldn't it? But your game plan works better if you can use class warfare to keep the population at battle with itself, and ensure a certain segment of the population stays reliant on the government teat.
In your mind, empowering a bureaucracy to enforce climate change, rather than empowering people, is the solution. You probably believe bureaucrats will always make the most scientific and dispassionate decisions that benefit us all. In reality bureaucrats are just as greedy as everyone else and they care for one thing: their own economic self-interest.
Until you can wrap your head around human greed, you will never solve the world's problems. Figure out how to channel human greed into activity that benefits others, such as the "invisible hand" of the free market economy, and you can accomplish anything, without having to force anyone to do anything against their will. Good luck.

lacy wrote: "I don’t understand why Americans are so selfish about climate change. "The climate heating is just the overhyped tip of the iceberg. That girl doesn't even understand what she's talking about and it's sad. And it's boring to read or hear someone talking about things beyond their comprehention.

Also, Europe & the US have done most of the emissions so far, haven't they? Maybe it's time to stop altogether? So, maybe Europe & US should change a lot, before pointing at China?
Peter wrote: "You telling me what I can do is neither equal nor fair. I have the human right of self-determination. "Yup :) I loved that one.
Peter wrote: "That is the ultimate result of central planning: unintended consequences the likes of which you can not imagine, including slower overall progress towards reducing carbon emissions, if that is indeed a goal anyone can agree on." I don't think reducing emissions's gonna cut it, frankly. We need new processes & tech to get it all to some sustainable point.

Rebecca wrote: "Liberalism from experience has high ideals, exploits the big dreams of individual people, sacrifices the individual for the collective, and ultimately leads to more problems than it ever started with. " Yup. Because in practice it's almost never with restraints against those who would love to game the system.
Rebecca wrote: "Canada wants to grow up to be just like Sweden, but most people I've met who actually live or who have lived in Sweden and some of the more progressive Scandinavian and Nordic countries à la Greta Thunberg are very frustrated and dissatisfied by the bizarre collectivism, high taxes and unspoken problems. " Horrible stuff, actually. Makes one feel more like a cog in the system than anything else. All of that to the rhythm of the official halleluja.

I hope that at some point environmentalism will not be a left-right issue anymore. Most people on both sides are really trying to "make the world better", but they disagree widely on how to do it. After we understand that, we need to discuss seriously and find some consensus, because nobody has all the answers.
Especially when it comes to the environment, I dare say that the vast majority of people wants to protect it, but you don't want to be the only one to make sacrifices. And we don't actually have the technology yet, nor is going back to the stone age something that most people will agree on. "Stop growth/capitalism" is not good enough, but endless growth is not sustainable either. So we really need to start talking across political divides about viable solutions that are acceptable to a majority of people.
May I recommend , which gives I think an accessible summary of what the models predict correctly and what they don't predict, why the world will not just end in 12 years or so, but also why "tipping points" are a real concern.


On Liberals gaming the system, it's not their fault the system is gamed. Anytime you create rules, people are going to find loopholes and workarounds for the rules. This is why central planning doesn't work: a few elites can't possibly create rules that are smarter than everyone else put together.
Thanks Miseri for the salute on self-determination. I agree the US does a lot of purchasing from Chinese factories, however (1) we don't regulate the environments of other countries and (2) if China would regulate their environment properly (especially power production) then there would be much less incentive to do business there because of the same increased production costs we face here, for example, building coal plants with scrubbers. You won't find many of those in China; they don't have to. It's the same issue with child labor and other labor protection laws, and so many other factors. The Chinese worker doesn't have the protections we do here in the US, so naturally it is less costly for a business to produce there. On an even playing field, an American worker is far more efficient than a Chinese worker. As I see it the only way to make things right is to slap tariffs on Chinese exports proportional to the cost of production that is reduced by all the human and environmental protections that are missing in China. That would level the playing field for American workers and give China a way to clean up their country without harming their exports because tariffs would be reduced when environmental and labor protections catch up.

Maya wrote: "not everything she says is simply wrong " Well, even a broken clock shows correct time twice a day.
Maya wrote: "I think she's turning more people off environmentalism " She's totally is.

Enjoyed your hilarious review :D" Yep. Brat & pamphlet alert would do this one a world of good.


I heard David Hogg was looking for a girlfriend...

But you did a great job explaining this crap book. Enjoy the next!

Hope YOU are GROOVY-GREAT!!!
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This one? As an audiobook? Meh. It's really boring and overrated by factor of about 1000.


I am shocked how many otherwise literate people give this drivel high ratings. It has some of the worst rhetoric I have ever read, it's repetitive, it contains no valuable scientific or economic information whatsoever, and, well, Thunberg is an immensely unlikable person. Maybe we should just put the archetype of the young rebel to rest, and start giving a damn again about whether they are hateful, immature, hypocritical, and only charitable when it comes to the money of other people?
As for her "Cathedral Thinking", it's funny she came up with that when Notre Dame burned. She absolutely had to make that about herself and her own cause, she couldn't just offer condolescences and leave it be. She already thinks like a true politician, that young talent.



I'm not wallowing in anything. Why would you think that?
I also don't care about her anything as long as she's somewhere really far away (another galaxy would've been excellent!) and other people are forced to listen to her raving.



Ah yes, yelling "how dare you" and repeating the same nonsense in her book is doing something. What she wants us to do, to stop using fossil fuels immediately is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It's like she wants the world to end. A delusional child arguing about things she doesn't understand is exactly what this is

factsnotfeelings wrote: "Ah yes, yelling "how dare you" and repeating the same nonsense in her book is doing something. What she wants us to do, to stop using fossil fuels immediately is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It's like she wants the world to end. A delusional child arguing about things she doesn't understand is exactly what this is" I think she's just not informed about how this world works, that, for example, we don't those fossil fuels for fun. And that the alternatives are not precisely working. The best alternative that is working is the nuclear power which we all know can destroy the world even faster than the fossil fuels (if things go wrong which they probably will at some point). And even nuclear energy does nothing to address the overpopulation, drasic pollution, garbage processing.... all the other ecological damage we do all the time.



Martyn wrote: "@yash Was thinking exactly the same. Snore fest."
I can just imagine the fun you guys are likely to have at the 'How dare you!' type parties.

'Of course I am! This world is going to hell in a handbasket and random public's getting kudos sitting around doing nothing. We need to save the planet!'
Let me stop at this point and gently remind you that we all are still need of clean energy that works not just in summer or around the equator. I don't see it in many places, do you? Who's gonna do it? I don't think it's gonna be Greta or her likes. In all likeliness, if it ever happens, it's gonna be some miserable scientist...

I'm in that large group of people (really, it's the majority by this point) who agree with her sentiments, because the basic gist of what she's saying is true. Climate change is a real problem that needs to be addressed.
The problem isn't with her goal, but with everything else. She hasn't shown that she really understands the problem, that she understands that most people agree with her and want to see things become better, that a lot of us are doing our part to make things better, and instead she has this weird attitude that's a combination of naivety, ignorance, condescension, and self-righteousness, which is made all the worse by her emotional instability when talking about anything. She's never presented a sound argument or a coherent set of consistent ideas that seem designed for action or change.
She's convinced a lot of people that emotional unfitness and exasperated rants loaded with little more than tried and tested platitudes are a sufficient tool to combat climate change. There's no intellectual value to her activism, and no one who's been motivated into "action" by her is going to know what they're really fighting against, or how to conceptualize the problem honestly. They're going to be motivated by anger and rage directed ambiguously in all directions, and will think that the only way to make things get better is by stamping their feet and crying until someone buys a more environmentally friendly car.
And maybe the biggest problem in all this is that if you criticize her insubstantialness, people go into mob-mentality mode and think you're criticizing environmentalism, or that you disagree with climate science, or that you don't care about the planet (some of this dumb attitudes are present in these comments). This is a dishonest handling of criticism, and seems intentionally ignorant. This makes conversation difficult.
I want to see better mental fitness among people trying to save the planet.