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No One Is Too Small to Make a Difference by Greta Thunberg
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did not like it

Not impressed.

Rating. We start at 5 stars:
+6 stars: I give it an extra star for the author's devotion to nature (+1 star), young age (+1 star), determination (+1 star), mental illness (+1 star), another +1 star so that she wouldn't cry (or sulk or whatever she does to terrorize her parents) and for everything else that I couldn't give a damn to care to remember or list (+1 star).
-1 star for repetitiveness
-1 star for no solutions suggested
-1 star for boring writing, as she isn't 8 to write so simply.
-1 star for further polluting the world with creating more trash during her protests, using that ludicrous boat to travel (with 2 sailor teams that fly to and fro) and trains and everything.
-1 star for lies: Q: This is not a political text. (c) Of-freaking-course it is.
-1 star for this alleged book not being a book but a pamphlet with some rants.
-1 star for preaching to the choir. We know that all of this is going to hell in a handbasket. We just don't know how to stop it.
-1 star for wrongly stating that we have all solutions today. And at another point rambling about 'thinking cathedrally'. We don't have all the necessary solutions in place and we are already quite 'cathedral-thinking', thank you so much.
-1 star for wrongly choosing the auditory. The influencers and politicians and random public are not the people that actually can do something. It's not about Trump being difficult or Merkel being lazy or some influencer evangelist Nico or Mary or whoever from I don't care where influencing people about lipstick and shoes instead of climate change. It's the scientists who should catch the ball, not about being alarmist but rather about having solutions. We don't have all the necessary tech (clean energy, wasteless processes, zero footprint food, etc) invented and implemented. Almost nothing today is zero carbon footprint no matter what the scientists might claim.
-1 star for being illiterate and subjecting public to her illiterate rants about stuff way above Greta's very limited skills. Going to school and getting some education to be able to actually do something useful might be a way to remedy this: how about inventing some new energy sources (clean and applicable everywhere!), Greta?

The end result is 1 star. Which, frankly, is very generous for this original-ish but pointless rant collection.

Q:
Last summer, climate scientist Johan Rockström and some other people wrote that we have at most three years to reverse growth in greenhouse-gas emissions if we’re going to reach the goals set in the Paris Agreement.
Over a year and two months have now passed, and in that time many other scientists have said the same thing and a lot of things have got worse and greenhouse-gas emissions continue to increase. So maybe we have even less time than the one year and ten months Johan Rockström said we have left.
If people knew this they wouldn’t need to ask me why I’m so ‘passionate about climate change�.
If people knew that the scientists say that we have a 5 per cent chance of meeting the Paris target, and if people knew what a nightmare scenario we will face if we don’t keep global warming below 2°C, they wouldn’t need to ask me why I’m on school strike outside parliament. (c) People know that, Greta. They aren't illiterate dolts, unlike what you think.
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Because if everyone knew how serious the situation is and how little is actually being done, everyone would come and sit down beside us. (c) Right. Because so many things are solved by sitting down in the middle of the street. I'm kidding. Spoiler: they never are. You have to get your ass up and do things: invent cleaner energy and implement it afterwards, everywhere. Have fun (not!)
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When I was about eight years old, I first heard about something called climate change, or global warming. (c) You shouldn't have stopped developing your skills at that point. Today you would've been able to make sense and maybe some impact. In 2 years you'll be 18, adult and no one will think you cutesy anymore. They'll just relabel you to, well, problematic and will be done with you.
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I think in many ways that we autistic are the normal ones and the rest of the people are pretty strange. (c) There are no normal people. Whatever spectrum or neuromake-up.
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If the emissions have to stop, then we must stop the emissions. (c) No shit Sherlock! How? How would you effing live without the computer you printed this BS on, without shoes you wear, without sandwitches you eat, without trains and boats and planes and cars and everything you use to move from point A to point B, without the meds that help you (or not)... Try growing some grain to make it into bread and you'll see what's wrong with this idea and why it's so stupid.
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Either we go on as a civilization or we don’t. ...
Either we choose to go on as a civilization or we don’t. (c) We aren't much of a civilization, frankly. If an illiterate teen is made into some saint maybe we should just stop existing and pave the way to some more intellectually developed civilisation? I say either Greta goes to school, finally, or we don't. How about that? Civilization strike, anyone?
Q:
Are we evil?
No, of course not. (c) Of course we are. Don't kid yourself.
Q:
No one is acting as if we were in a crisis. ...
I don’t want you to be hopeful.
I want you to panic.
I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. (c) So, we are supposed to act like we are in some crisis? Like, scream and run randomly about doing nothing? Is that the illustrious course of action we are supposed to undertake?
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Even most green politicians and climate scientists go on flying around the world, eating meat and dairy. (c) Even your sailors do.
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Some people say that I should study to become a climate scientist so that I can ‘solve the climate crisis�. But the climate crisis has already been solved.
We already have all the facts and solutions. All we have to do is to wake up and change. (c)Optimistic much. You're misinformed, Greta. Go learn some Georgaphy and Economics and Physics. There are no viable generally applicable solutions.
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But I think that if a few children can get headlines all over the world just by not going to school for a few weeks, imagine what we all could do together if we wanted to. (c) Get a billion of headlines or what?
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The real power belongs to the people. (c) Too bad it's not brainpower.
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We know that most politicians don’t want to talk to us. Good, we don’t want to talk to them either. We want them to talk to the scientists instead. (c) Finally. Some practioners needed not theoreticians. You basically need to change everything in our economies. And you don't need to talk about climate. You need to talk about how our billions of people can live without changing it. There's the rub.
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I write my own speeches... I often ask for input. I also have a few scientists that I frequently ask for help on how to express certain complicated matters. (c) Uh-huh. So large chunks of this stuff are what adults tell her.
Q:
During the last six months I have travelled around Europe for hundreds of hours in trains, electric cars and buses, repeating these life-changing words over and over again. But no one seems to be talking about it... (c) Actually, people are. It would have been more nature-oriented not to do that.
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We children are not sacrificing our education and our childhood for you to tell us what you consider is politically possible in the society that you have created. (c) Go and create a better one. Be my guest.
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Avoiding climate breakdown will require cathedral thinking. We must lay the foundation while we may not know exactly how to build the ceiling. (c)
That's a very bad analogy.
York Minster Cathedral? 252 years to build?
Sagrada Famiglia? Work in progress since 1882?
If so, we are doing just fine with the climate, relax? We are thinking quite cathedrally already, stumbling about at random.
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Peter Z. Hear, hear. That was far more persuasive (and entertaining) than my review. Honestly I'm still stuck on her UN speech. "How dare you?" My... I didn't realize a lousy teenager had the standing to speak that way to a room full of dignified representatives of the world's nations. But the guilt-trip attempt certainly failed. Dear little Greta, they're diplomats. They're not mindless automatons who fall for trickery, unlike your cadre of "followers". A word of advice from someone with life experience: if the world is on fire, sitting in the street (or fake-sailing around the Atlantic) screaming... is but a lousy way to stop it.


Peter Z. PS Love the Sagrada Familia reference. "Gaudí is gone but we're just going to pick up the sketches we have left... and wing it the rest of the way." That is Art. <3 <3


☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Rebecca wrote: "Couldn't agree with you more; you say it much better than I did." I loved your review, actually.


message 4: by ☘Mǰ徱� (last edited Dec 07, 2019 04:29PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Peter wrote: "PS Love the Sagrada Familia reference. "Gaudí is gone but we're just going to pick up the sketches we have left... and wing it the rest of the way." That is Art. <3 <3" Well, I just couldn't help thinking that 200 years ago this whole mess wasn't yet the one we have today. So, cathedral definiely won't cut it.

Peter wrote: "A word of advice from someone with life experience: if the world is on fire, sitting in the street (or fake-sailing around the Atlantic) screaming... is but a lousy way to stop it." Yep! And having public tantrums won't help. As well as screaming and panicking and whatever else she suggested. :)


Peter Z. ☘Mǰ徱� ~ The Serendipity Aegis ~ wrote: "And having public tantrums won't help. As well as screaming and panicking and whatever else she suggested."

* "whatever else her handlers suggested"


☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Peter wrote: "* "whatever else her handlers suggested"" Yeah, considering that she's not getting education, it's almost a given.


message 7: by Cassandra (new)

Cassandra You are entitled to your own opinion. But I would like to comment on your suggestion that we don't have the technology yet and that the scientists, not the politicians, need to do the most. This is not quite true. Yes, there are lots of ideas of tech that would help which is not yet invented. However, there was a New Scientist article a few months ago about what we could do and essentially said we DO have the technology to do much more. For example, planting trees (and stopping cutting them down) alone would make a significant difference. There were many more ideas but I can't remember them. These changes are of the sort that only politicians can implement on the necessary scale.


Peter Z. That's true, almost nobody can plant a tree without government help these days. I mean, I did it once, but I really didn't plant it MYSELF, it was the government built roads that got me to the nursery, which really enabled me to play my tiny part in paying for the tree and digging the hole and planting of the tree and watering it and so forth. I really did almost nothing when you look at it.


message 9: by ☘Mǰ徱� (last edited Dec 08, 2019 07:20PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Cassandra wrote: "I would like to comment on your suggestion that we don't have the technology yet and that the scientists, not the politicians, need to do the most... here was a New Scientist article a few months ago about what we could do" It's not a suggestion, it's hard reality. We don't have that tech no matter what the NS or any other article says.

Besides, it's not enough to invent, say, solar energy.

You also have to invent how to use it in Norilsk and Utqiagvik, for example, round the year.

You also have to invent how to power New York, Paris and the rest of it all by solar only, round the year.

You also have to invent some way to cleanly feed all the currently living billions of people. Who still procreate.

You also have to do something about all the trash we steadily produce. And I'd really love to see some solutions to the microplastic problem, as well.

Everything else: transportation, production of all sorts (clothes, meds, everything) would also have to be changed from the root. In other words, you wouldn't have anymore of Coca-Cola, hamburgers, sneakers, oestrogen pills (or most of other ones), plane travel, anything plastic or of paper, no stove of any kind other that electic one, no computer at your disposal, no energy to power it ... Even the Tesla cars - are you really sure they are produced in a way that takes nothing from the environment? Can you drive them around Antarctica?

Also, it's not enough to invent those things, you also have to implement them, which is yet another ring of hell.

So, how the blazing crazes is any politician (i.e. a person qualified to babble with authority) supposed to, say, develop a way to produce superecological fully recyclable sneakers without taking anything from the nature, without any emissions, without any trash and without any evironment footprint? That's a task for scientists and professionals not for polititians.

I'd really love to see how all of that could be solved by planting trees. So, I'd really take all those nifty articles with a cup of salt (a grain won't cut it).

From how I see it, it's a giant tangle of problems that are very unlikely to be solved by either planting trees or by traditional environmental remedies that you don't remember. I'm sorry, but real life is a bitch and needs a crapload of more invention and innovation happening before we can be back at home with our planet.


message 10: by Peter (new) - rated it 1 star

Peter Z. LOL @ solar. First of all look at the ginormous waste of resources to produce the collectors that last 20 years according to the sales people. Then you get a great bid to put solar on your house that barely breaks even in 10 years, AFTER government credits and tax breaks AND volume discount from being part of a group program, assuming the holes they drill in the roof don't wreck the roof or invalidate the 25+ year warranty on your shingles. Then you come to learn that the solar panels produce almost enough to supply your electricity needs completely. But only during the day. So you have to feed back extra into the grid during the day, and suck back off the grid at night when the sun is down, UNLESS you install massive stacks of car batteries down in the basement, that go bad after a certain amount of charges and discharges. And when they go bad, you have a 1st class ecological disaster on your hands. Ohh and you want to switch off the gas powered hot water heater, furnace and range? Yeah there aren't enough solar collectors to supply that much energy, so as far as switching to fully electric and run by solar panels.... the term for that is a "pipe dream". {Fortunately, here in Illinois, those types of pipes are about to become legal. When a state is run this badly, you have to let everyone get stoned so they don't notice the state is being run into the ground. But that's neither here nor there.} I do agree that these microplastics and drugs running into waterways are an issue of concern. Things getting eaten and absorbed by the fish. People drinking water with a tiny drug cocktail built in... gads. Glad we get our water here from deep wells where the water and plastic at least has to permeate rock before it gets into the aquifer.


message 11: by ☘Mǰ徱� (last edited Dec 08, 2019 10:57PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Peter wrote: "LOL @ solar. First of all look at the ginormous waste of resources to produce the collectors that last 20 years according to the sales people. Then you get a great bid to put solar on your house th..."Yay. Total joy, that solar)

Add to that that in massive cities it won't cover all the needs.

And in places where solarization is at most 1 full day a year (2 when people are extra lucky) - it wouldn't do even that at all. And it's those places that need it all for basic amenities, like central heating and hot water.


message 12: by lacy (new)

lacy white Just because a teenager wants to change the world and protect nature doesn't mean she has handles, Peter. She just as easily learn about the world through other means besides school. There is online schooling not to mention just basic search outlets and reading scientific journals.
We do know how to stop climate change but it takes everybody to do. People don't want to because that requires sacrifice and huge change such as not using coal and using solar power. Her title is right though, no change is too small, whether that be not using straws anymore to recycling.


message 13: by Peter (new) - rated it 1 star

Peter Z. Amen Rebecca & Miseri. lacy, you know who needs to change? The government of China. We here already have choices. That country ruins the planet with impunity because it's run by a bunch of central-planning unaccountable communists. And if we're not afraid to admit it, that's the real goal.
As they say: liberals would burn the world to the ground as long as they got to rule over the ashes.


message 14: by lacy (new)

lacy white It sounds to me like you guys really just don’t care about the planet and that’s sad. Yeah, maybe we don’t owe the future generation anything but I, for one, would like to leave them a planet that isn’t 50 shades of fucked up and if that means sacrificing a little then so be it. I don’t understand why Americans are so selfish about climate change. Sure, it’s a little inconvenient but does no one seem to realize that we, as a human race, could be wiped out if we don’t take care of our planet?? It’s just baffling to me that we complain about these sacrifices when it’s our lives at stakes.
Also, Peter, your comment about liberals wasn’t cool. I’m a proud liberal and we don’t want to rule the world. We simply just want to make it better. We want it to be more equal and more fair for everybody around us.


message 15: by Peter (new) - rated it 1 star

Peter Z. You telling me what I can do is neither equal nor fair. I have the human right of self-determination. Dare I quote Wilson, "People may now be dominated only by their own consent." You think you know better than anyone else. But until you get the likes of China (and other awful polluters) under control, the US has no reason to tie our hands behind our backs by subjecting ourselves to globalist regulation that nobody else adheres to. The economic engine that powers scientific advancement (and feeds the world) does not need to be hobbled. That is the ultimate result of central planning: unintended consequences the likes of which you can not imagine, including slower overall progress towards reducing carbon emissions, if that is indeed a goal anyone can agree on.

Look at all the smart people running Venuezuela. Maybe even smarter than you, and they had all the underground oil in the world! But they thought they were smart and now there is no gas, barely any electricity, and a once-rich nation is starving. You'll say, "that's not what we're trying to do." The problem is creep. Step by step you take more and more power, subject people to more and more regulation until finally you have complete power over all aspects of daily life in the hands of the ruling elite. Then you crush them. And heaven forbid that the elite shrinks you out of its inner circle --the outlook isn't bright for those who cross the Machine.

The problem is that you believe regular people like Americans can't manage things. Maybe you can't be bothered to plant a tree yourself, but you can go online "keyboard strong" and rant at other people that they need to plant trees. You know, I can plant a tree if I want to. I don't need government aid to do it, and I don't need a penalty if I don't do it. You love those two ideas--but they're both inherently UNFAIR and UNEQUAL.

Fantastic Reagan quote: No intellectual elite in a far-distant capitol can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.

A nice way to solve the problem would be to enrich everyone to where they could all afford to plant some nice trees themselves, wouldn't it? But your game plan works better if you can use class warfare to keep the population at battle with itself, and ensure a certain segment of the population stays reliant on the government teat.

In your mind, empowering a bureaucracy to enforce climate change, rather than empowering people, is the solution. You probably believe bureaucrats will always make the most scientific and dispassionate decisions that benefit us all. In reality bureaucrats are just as greedy as everyone else and they care for one thing: their own economic self-interest.

Until you can wrap your head around human greed, you will never solve the world's problems. Figure out how to channel human greed into activity that benefits others, such as the "invisible hand" of the free market economy, and you can accomplish anything, without having to force anyone to do anything against their will. Good luck.


message 16: by ☘Mǰ徱� (last edited Dec 10, 2019 03:18PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ lacy wrote: "We do know how to stop climate change but it takes everybody to do. People don't want to because that requires sacrifice and huge change such as not using coal and using solar power. " Actually that's not as simple as that. How do you freaking use the solar power where you don't have sun or where it's not enough to cover. Like, do you have a map? I mentioned the locations above for a reason.

lacy wrote: "I don’t understand why Americans are so selfish about climate change. "The climate heating is just the overhyped tip of the iceberg. That girl doesn't even understand what she's talking about and it's sad. And it's boring to read or hear someone talking about things beyond their comprehention.


message 17: by ☘Mǰ徱� (last edited Dec 10, 2019 03:30PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Peter wrote: "Amen Rebecca & Miseri. lacy, you know who needs to change? The government of China. We here already have choices. That country ruins the planet with impunity" Actually, they don't. Most of US/European factories are localised in China. For a reason. Maaybe their governments should forbid such outsourcing? Basically, you get the US/Europe under control and consider the China's emissions downturned.

Also, Europe & the US have done most of the emissions so far, haven't they? Maybe it's time to stop altogether? So, maybe Europe & US should change a lot, before pointing at China?

Peter wrote: "You telling me what I can do is neither equal nor fair. I have the human right of self-determination. "Yup :) I loved that one.

Peter wrote: "That is the ultimate result of central planning: unintended consequences the likes of which you can not imagine, including slower overall progress towards reducing carbon emissions, if that is indeed a goal anyone can agree on." I don't think reducing emissions's gonna cut it, frankly. We need new processes & tech to get it all to some sustainable point.


message 18: by ☘Mǰ徱� (last edited Dec 10, 2019 09:34PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Rebecca wrote: "Liberalism, at least here in Canada, is the mutated byproduct of entitled people intermingled with a corrupt, greedy government exploiting the fears of people. It doesn't work. " Hear, hear. It's that way in many places. Basically, the people who are most corrupt and/or have it a lot better than others become the most ardent of liberals, since it allows them to do pretty much whaever they want without regard to society.

Rebecca wrote: "Liberalism from experience has high ideals, exploits the big dreams of individual people, sacrifices the individual for the collective, and ultimately leads to more problems than it ever started with. " Yup. Because in practice it's almost never with restraints against those who would love to game the system.

Rebecca wrote: "Canada wants to grow up to be just like Sweden, but most people I've met who actually live or who have lived in Sweden and some of the more progressive Scandinavian and Nordic countries à la Greta Thunberg are very frustrated and dissatisfied by the bizarre collectivism, high taxes and unspoken problems. " Horrible stuff, actually. Makes one feel more like a cog in the system than anything else. All of that to the rhythm of the official halleluja.


message 19: by Maya (last edited Dec 18, 2019 04:35AM) (new)

Maya I'm not a fan of Thunberg, I think she's turning more people off environmentalism than getting them on board, but not everything she says is simply wrong (unfortunately).

I hope that at some point environmentalism will not be a left-right issue anymore. Most people on both sides are really trying to "make the world better", but they disagree widely on how to do it. After we understand that, we need to discuss seriously and find some consensus, because nobody has all the answers.

Especially when it comes to the environment, I dare say that the vast majority of people wants to protect it, but you don't want to be the only one to make sacrifices. And we don't actually have the technology yet, nor is going back to the stone age something that most people will agree on. "Stop growth/capitalism" is not good enough, but endless growth is not sustainable either. So we really need to start talking across political divides about viable solutions that are acceptable to a majority of people.

May I recommend , which gives I think an accessible summary of what the models predict correctly and what they don't predict, why the world will not just end in 12 years or so, but also why "tipping points" are a real concern.


message 20: by Peter (new) - rated it 1 star

Peter Z. Just remember. Republicans were the original environmentalists in the United States. And the only ones who pursued environmental policy in a way that did not vastly increase the oppressive power of government, reducing the people and businesses who create wealth and jobs to mere vassals of a nightmare deep-state of regulation-generating bureaucrats.


message 21: by Peter (new) - rated it 1 star

Peter Z. Thunberg is a proven joke, a 16 year old with so many problems who lives like the classic "limousine socialist". Soon her minute in the spotlight will come to an end and she will have nothing more than a book deal from some awful Soros-funded corporate front.

On Liberals gaming the system, it's not their fault the system is gamed. Anytime you create rules, people are going to find loopholes and workarounds for the rules. This is why central planning doesn't work: a few elites can't possibly create rules that are smarter than everyone else put together.

Thanks Miseri for the salute on self-determination. I agree the US does a lot of purchasing from Chinese factories, however (1) we don't regulate the environments of other countries and (2) if China would regulate their environment properly (especially power production) then there would be much less incentive to do business there because of the same increased production costs we face here, for example, building coal plants with scrubbers. You won't find many of those in China; they don't have to. It's the same issue with child labor and other labor protection laws, and so many other factors. The Chinese worker doesn't have the protections we do here in the US, so naturally it is less costly for a business to produce there. On an even playing field, an American worker is far more efficient than a Chinese worker. As I see it the only way to make things right is to slap tariffs on Chinese exports proportional to the cost of production that is reduced by all the human and environmental protections that are missing in China. That would level the playing field for American workers and give China a way to clean up their country without harming their exports because tariffs would be reduced when environmental and labor protections catch up.


message 22: by ``Laurie (new)

``Laurie Some books should come with a BRAT ALERT!
Enjoyed your hilarious review :D


☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Maya wrote: "May I recommend this video, which gives I think an accessible summary of what the models predict correctly and what they don't predict, why the world will not just end in 12 years or so, but also why "tipping points" are a real concern. " Gosh. I know all of that, quite intimately. And I also am well aware of how these thingies get tweaked to show what is needed.

Maya wrote: "not everything she says is simply wrong " Well, even a broken clock shows correct time twice a day.

Maya wrote: "I think she's turning more people off environmentalism " She's totally is.


☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ ``Laurie wrote: "Some books should come with a BRAT ALERT!
Enjoyed your hilarious review :D"
Yep. Brat & pamphlet alert would do this one a world of good.


☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Peter wrote: "Thunberg is a proven joke, a 16 year old with so many problems who lives like the classic "limousine socialist". Soon her minute in the spotlight will come to an end and she will have nothing more ..." Yep. Totally. Which is sad, a bit. She could've done something better other than being a regular puppet.


message 26: by ``Laurie (new)

``Laurie ☘Mǰ徱� ~ The Serendipity Aegis ~ wrote: "Peter wrote: "Thunberg is a proven joke, a 16 year old with so many problems who lives like the classic "limousine socialist". Soon her minute in the spotlight will come to an end and she will have..."

I heard David Hogg was looking for a girlfriend...




message 27: by Karina (new)

Karina Fantastic review, Misericordia! I enjoyed your thoughts and agree with mostly everything. I don't understand why people are making this a Republican- Democrat debate...? It sounds a bit ignorant. Why can't you be from any political party and want a healthy world? Why shouldn't climate change be an important movement for anyone, whatever their beliefs?

But you did a great job explaining this crap book. Enjoy the next!


message 28: by ☘Mǰ徱� (last edited Feb 20, 2020 04:12AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Elyse wrote: "Yikes!!! And I was going to request an audiobook from my library.

Hope YOU are GROOVY-GREAT!!!
💕💕💕💕😊💖💖💖💕💕💕"
Hey))) I guess I am) How are you?
This one? As an audiobook? Meh. It's really boring and overrated by factor of about 1000.


message 29: by Ruth (new)

Ruth E. R. I just want to say, outstanding efforts by Misericordia, Peter Z, and Rebecca! Better than the "book" in certain.


message 30: by Alex (new) - rated it 1 star

Alex This was a pleasure to read! Thanks.

I am shocked how many otherwise literate people give this drivel high ratings. It has some of the worst rhetoric I have ever read, it's repetitive, it contains no valuable scientific or economic information whatsoever, and, well, Thunberg is an immensely unlikable person. Maybe we should just put the archetype of the young rebel to rest, and start giving a damn again about whether they are hateful, immature, hypocritical, and only charitable when it comes to the money of other people?

As for her "Cathedral Thinking", it's funny she came up with that when Notre Dame burned. She absolutely had to make that about herself and her own cause, she couldn't just offer condolescences and leave it be. She already thinks like a true politician, that young talent.


bunny ᥫ᭡ imagine being the asshole hating on a minor just because it pisses you off she’s doing something while you wallow away in your misery


message 32: by Alex (new) - rated it 1 star

Alex Lot of assumptions there. Also, this minor is making international politics, so she's fair game. If she's too young to be criticized, she should be too young to be treated like a serious political figure.


☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ ghost � wrote: "imagine being the asshole hating on a minor just because it pisses you off she’s doing something while you wallow away in your misery"
I'm not wallowing in anything. Why would you think that?
I also don't care about her anything as long as she's somewhere really far away (another galaxy would've been excellent!) and other people are forced to listen to her raving.


☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Alex wrote: "Lot of assumptions there. Also, this minor is making international politics, so she's fair game. If she's too young to be criticized, she should be too young to be treated like a serious political ..." Yep, totally!


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Tye this is such an evil review. complete shame on you.


factsnotfeelings This is a sorry excuse for a book. A teenager raging about climate change while being disconnected with politics, society, and the environment. To stop using fossil fuels and carbon emissions is the end of the world as we know it. Give us some real solutions, Greta, and stop repeating the same things


message 37: by Alex (new) - rated it 1 star

Alex Literally repeating. I counted four or five sentences that kept recurring, word for word.


factsnotfeelings ghost � blm wrote: "imagine being the asshole hating on a minor just because it pisses you off she’s doing something while you wallow away in your misery"
Ah yes, yelling "how dare you" and repeating the same nonsense in her book is doing something. What she wants us to do, to stop using fossil fuels immediately is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It's like she wants the world to end. A delusional child arguing about things she doesn't understand is exactly what this is


☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Tye wrote: "this is such an evil review. complete shame on you." Mwa-ha-ha!


message 40: by ☘Mǰ徱� (last edited Sep 20, 2020 09:30PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ factsnotfeelings wrote: "This is a sorry excuse for a book. A teenager raging about climate change while being disconnected with politics, society, and the environment. To stop using fossil fuels and carbon emissions is the end of the world as we know it. Give us some real solutions, Greta, and stop repeating the same things" Precisely. We need those solutions, sorely. Sadly, we can't develop them sitting around on streets.

factsnotfeelings wrote: "Ah yes, yelling "how dare you" and repeating the same nonsense in her book is doing something. What she wants us to do, to stop using fossil fuels immediately is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It's like she wants the world to end. A delusional child arguing about things she doesn't understand is exactly what this is" I think she's just not informed about how this world works, that, for example, we don't those fossil fuels for fun. And that the alternatives are not precisely working. The best alternative that is working is the nuclear power which we all know can destroy the world even faster than the fossil fuels (if things go wrong which they probably will at some point). And even nuclear energy does nothing to address the overpopulation, drasic pollution, garbage processing.... all the other ecological damage we do all the time.


☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Alex wrote: "Literally repeating. I counted four or five sentences that kept recurring, word for word." Lots of that in here.


message 42: by Yash (new)

Yash Gadodia you must be fun at parties


message 43: by Justin (new)

Justin Hall You know you’re doing something right to make complete strangers write out this many words saying they don’t like you.


Martyn Fitzgerald @yash Was thinking exactly the same. Snore fest.


☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Yash wrote: "you must be fun at parties"

Martyn wrote: "@yash Was thinking exactly the same. Snore fest."
I can just imagine the fun you guys are likely to have at the 'How dare you!' type parties.


message 46: by Justin (new)

Justin Hall You sound miserable.


ᴘʶᴏᴍᴇᴛʜᴇᴜꜱ Yeah the book is not good
Loved the Liberal bad Republican good bs :)


message 48: by ☘Mǰ徱� (last edited Feb 26, 2021 02:34PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ Justin wrote: "You sound miserable." *eyeroll* Let me impersonate some Greta for you:

'Of course I am! This world is going to hell in a handbasket and random public's getting kudos sitting around doing nothing. We need to save the planet!'

Let me stop at this point and gently remind you that we all are still need of clean energy that works not just in summer or around the equator. I don't see it in many places, do you? Who's gonna do it? I don't think it's gonna be Greta or her likes. In all likeliness, if it ever happens, it's gonna be some miserable scientist...


message 49: by ☘Mǰ徱� (last edited Feb 26, 2021 02:35PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

☘Mǰ徱☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ ᴘʶᴏᴍᴇᴛʜᴇᴜ� wrote: "Yeah the book is not good
Loved the Liberal bad Republican good bs :)"
Agreed :)


Philip of Macedon I haven't read the book, but I appreciate your review, because my familiarity with Greta Thunberg and her public presence make it hard for me to take her seriously. It's a strange situation.

I'm in that large group of people (really, it's the majority by this point) who agree with her sentiments, because the basic gist of what she's saying is true. Climate change is a real problem that needs to be addressed.

The problem isn't with her goal, but with everything else. She hasn't shown that she really understands the problem, that she understands that most people agree with her and want to see things become better, that a lot of us are doing our part to make things better, and instead she has this weird attitude that's a combination of naivety, ignorance, condescension, and self-righteousness, which is made all the worse by her emotional instability when talking about anything. She's never presented a sound argument or a coherent set of consistent ideas that seem designed for action or change.

She's convinced a lot of people that emotional unfitness and exasperated rants loaded with little more than tried and tested platitudes are a sufficient tool to combat climate change. There's no intellectual value to her activism, and no one who's been motivated into "action" by her is going to know what they're really fighting against, or how to conceptualize the problem honestly. They're going to be motivated by anger and rage directed ambiguously in all directions, and will think that the only way to make things get better is by stamping their feet and crying until someone buys a more environmentally friendly car.

And maybe the biggest problem in all this is that if you criticize her insubstantialness, people go into mob-mentality mode and think you're criticizing environmentalism, or that you disagree with climate science, or that you don't care about the planet (some of this dumb attitudes are present in these comments). This is a dishonest handling of criticism, and seems intentionally ignorant. This makes conversation difficult.

I want to see better mental fitness among people trying to save the planet.


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