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Saint Camber (The Legends of Camber of Culdi, #2)
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Nov 21, 2023
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SAINT CAMBER is my 5th Deryni read, & you could copy-paste from my previous Kurtz forays to cobble together my response. Like, say, this paragraph from my review of Book 4:
There’s never anything more than surface to the characters; you never become attached to them, never particularly care if someone lives or dies, never especially hope anyone wins or loses. There’s lots of to’ing & fro’ing, some arcane rituals, some medieval political backstabbing, even some sword fighting…but it never touches any depth of emotion in yours truly. The most all-encompassing word I can think of is superficial.
…Combined with this (condensed) clipping from my review of Book 3:
Other issues remain constant: no significant female presence; repeated rehashing conversations; terrible pace; easy fixes to big problems.
…And there you have it.
Obviously Kurtz was trying to include Evaine more in the first half of this book—she allows us to see a brief glimpse of her domestic + magical life with Rhys, which is a departure from previous female characters—but then Evaine is abruptly dropped & mentioned only as being pregnant or as witness to Camber’s “sainthood.� The villainous Ariella—who had the potential to be a delightfully nasty antagonist—is barely included, making a 3-pg cameo to look at maps & then appearing again only in her death scene. And as for Megan, good grief. The girl has 3 lines in the entire book, all of which are begging for Cinhil’s attention. 🙄
So. *shrug* Kurtz (again) denies significant female presence to balance the overwhelmingly male cast, leaving characters who feel gay even if they’re not supposed to be, characters who might be gay except it’s so vaguely alluded to that their sexuality is indistinguishable from magical connectivity, & lots of talking heads to fill the remaining expositional dialogue. You also have a whiny king digging in his heels against a hypocritical self-righteous kingmaker—which might be a fun conflict if they weren’t such an annoying pair—with the talking heads rubbing your face in their tedium by continually yapping about the aforementioned king & kingmaker…yada yada. 🥱 (Also, the way Camber justifies poking around in other minds & manipulating their emotions because he decides it’s best for them to know/not know or feel/not feel is truly obnoxious…but there’s no exploration of such blurred morality because clearly we’re supposed to accept Camber’s knowledge as superior & everything he does as Right + Good(tm) for the betterment of humans & Deryni both. Why? Because the author says so. Camber is a Good Guy—no further excuse needed. Say what? 🤔)
Yet again the pacing is terrible; yet again the plot is buried beneath dry prose & flat personalities. Even so, I wanted to see the conclusion of this installment & will undoubtedly plod through the final Camber novel, so there’s *something* that keeps me invested just enough to continue; that mysterious *something* is enough for the usual tepid 3 stars (a trademark of my Deryni experience 🤖), but I don’t understand why they’re considered to be icons of the genre.
There’s never anything more than surface to the characters; you never become attached to them, never particularly care if someone lives or dies, never especially hope anyone wins or loses. There’s lots of to’ing & fro’ing, some arcane rituals, some medieval political backstabbing, even some sword fighting…but it never touches any depth of emotion in yours truly. The most all-encompassing word I can think of is superficial.
…Combined with this (condensed) clipping from my review of Book 3:
Other issues remain constant: no significant female presence; repeated rehashing conversations; terrible pace; easy fixes to big problems.
…And there you have it.
Obviously Kurtz was trying to include Evaine more in the first half of this book—she allows us to see a brief glimpse of her domestic + magical life with Rhys, which is a departure from previous female characters—but then Evaine is abruptly dropped & mentioned only as being pregnant or as witness to Camber’s “sainthood.� The villainous Ariella—who had the potential to be a delightfully nasty antagonist—is barely included, making a 3-pg cameo to look at maps & then appearing again only in her death scene. And as for Megan, good grief. The girl has 3 lines in the entire book, all of which are begging for Cinhil’s attention. 🙄
So. *shrug* Kurtz (again) denies significant female presence to balance the overwhelmingly male cast, leaving characters who feel gay even if they’re not supposed to be, characters who might be gay except it’s so vaguely alluded to that their sexuality is indistinguishable from magical connectivity, & lots of talking heads to fill the remaining expositional dialogue. You also have a whiny king digging in his heels against a hypocritical self-righteous kingmaker—which might be a fun conflict if they weren’t such an annoying pair—with the talking heads rubbing your face in their tedium by continually yapping about the aforementioned king & kingmaker…yada yada. 🥱 (Also, the way Camber justifies poking around in other minds & manipulating their emotions because he decides it’s best for them to know/not know or feel/not feel is truly obnoxious…but there’s no exploration of such blurred morality because clearly we’re supposed to accept Camber’s knowledge as superior & everything he does as Right + Good(tm) for the betterment of humans & Deryni both. Why? Because the author says so. Camber is a Good Guy—no further excuse needed. Say what? 🤔)
Yet again the pacing is terrible; yet again the plot is buried beneath dry prose & flat personalities. Even so, I wanted to see the conclusion of this installment & will undoubtedly plod through the final Camber novel, so there’s *something* that keeps me invested just enough to continue; that mysterious *something* is enough for the usual tepid 3 stars (a trademark of my Deryni experience 🤖), but I don’t understand why they’re considered to be icons of the genre.
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December 10, 2019
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December 10, 2019
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December 10, 2019
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May 27, 2023
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November 14, 2023
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November 15, 2023
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"My brain is stupid today, so I’ll start this lackluster fantasy which will require little thought + much skimming, whilst simultaneously counting toward my unfinished series leftovers challenge. Damn skippy! Tremble in awe of such an excellently well-thought plan.💀"
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"—“In truth, I have great reservations about all your abilities. God does not grant such powers to ordinary mortals.�
—“Are you not mortal, Sire?� Cullen said.
—“Aye, & I like not my powers, either.�
�.Cinhil is immature, annoying, & whiny, but he ain’t wrong in his concerns. It’s a question the author has yet to adequately explore in 4+ books."
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—“Are you not mortal, Sire?� Cullen said.
—“Aye, & I like not my powers, either.�
�.Cinhil is immature, annoying, & whiny, but he ain’t wrong in his concerns. It’s a question the author has yet to adequately explore in 4+ books."
November 15, 2023
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"—“You would either have killed me or wrenched my mind to make me do your will. I could not stand against all of you. I was only one frail human man.�
—“And have there been no martyrs before?� Cullen observed coldly. “That, too, was a choice open to you, had you dared take it.�
�.Jaysus. I too wish Cinhil would quit whining, but equating those options with a viable choice is cold. 😶"
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—“And have there been no martyrs before?� Cullen observed coldly. “That, too, was a choice open to you, had you dared take it.�
�.Jaysus. I too wish Cinhil would quit whining, but equating those options with a viable choice is cold. 😶"
November 16, 2023
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"‘Now that the initial transformation was accomplished, he could even, if he wished, change back to his own form occasionally, with little exertion involved. He had already taken the necessary steps to ensure that no conscious effort would be required to maintain his façade; it would remain even when he was asleep or unconscious.� �.Translation: an ultra-convenient deus ex machina for no good reason. 🙄"
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November 16, 2023
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"I like that Camber decides within 10 seconds—literally—to fake his own death & masquerade as a dead guy by magically changing his appearance for the rest of his life, all because whiny king Cinhil hated the dead guy less than he hated Camber. Really? 🙄 Maybe if they were actually *honest* with Cinhil he would stop accusing them of being so devious. Honestly, can you blame the guy?"
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November 18, 2023
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"‘The inference of divine intervention was unfortunate, but it was certainly more desirable than the truth. If necessary, he must foster the lie to guard the greater lie.� …Yup, it’s way better they think a dead guy has appeared as a saint to save a not-dead guy who actually did die, but is being impersonated by the sainted guy who’s not really dead & just saved himself from death. 🙈 THIS PLAN IS STUPID."
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November 20, 2023
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"So…Camber in his new body & power status is appointing this guy because Cinhil likes him & he’s a human whose mind can be controlled by Deryni magic that only Camber wields? Charming. So why didn’t this one-man coup just take the throne & be done with it? Villainous Camber would be much more tolerable than Self-Righteous Camber whose every action says “hi, I’m a sanctimonious hypocrite.�"
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"“You’ll see. God willing, you & many others—even his children—will come to know his greatness as we have. That is one reason we wish to build his shrine in the cathedral, where his body lay before its last journey, so that all may pay him reverence. One day, his tomb at Caerrorie will be a shrine as well. To some, it is already.� �.*FAIL HORN*"
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November 21, 2023
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November 21, 2023
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April 6, 2024
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April 6, 2024
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But I have shelves for many different color covers. I’m all about diversity. 😁
I was going to comment on the acquire but for distracted by the real cover shelf.