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Stoner by John  Williams
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"In his extreme youth Stoner had thought of love as an absolute state of being to which, if one were lucky, one might find access; in his maturity he had decided it was the heaven of a false religion, toward which one ought to gaze with an amused disbelief, a gently familiar contempt, and an embarrassed nostalgia. Now in his middle age he began to know that it was neither a state of grace nor an illusion; he saw it as a human act of becoming, a condition that was invented and modified moment by moment and day by day, by the will and the intelligence and the heart."



William Stoner grew up on a farm, a hardscrabble farm too small to provide more than just subsistence living. They were an undersized family for that time period, just his father and mother and himself. It took all of them to keep up with the backbreaking work of a farm in the early 20th century. His father, in his own way, a visionary man could see that farming was on the cusp of great changes. He sent Stoner to the University of Missouri to find out what the future was going to be for agriculture. Stoner wasn't an inspired student. He still had to work on a relative's farm to pay for his tuition and found the more work he did the less help he got from his relatives. He still had to go back to the family farm and help his father whenever he had spare time. He was almost too busy to worry too much about school

The first pivotal moment for Stoner is when he is sitting in an English class taught by his future mentor. The professor puts him on the spot asking him to explain a Shakespeare Sonnet. Stoner was dumbfounded not only with embarrassment, but by the language of the English bard. He switched majors from the department of agriculture to the department of English literature.

I grew up on a farm about 80 years after Stoner, as anticipated by Stoner's father, production agriculture took great leaps forward replacing a lot of backbreaking labor with machines. Farmers were able to increase their land holdings as tractors and thrashers allowed them to maximize daylight hours. I stacked a lot of hay, feed cattle in subzero weather, pulled calves (you've never been properly slimed until you've spent time up to your elbow in a cow's uterus.), fixed fence, rode tractors listening to Royals baseball games to keep from dozing off, drove trucks full of grain, and every minute I wasn't doing something for the farm or playing sports I was reading books. My parents don't know how it happened. It must have been an aberrant gene. Nobody I knew read books, except for the good book, which most of the time I couldn't tell they'd grasped many of the concepts of that book either.

The 1980s farm crises hit just as I was coming of age. Land values had jumped up and many farmers had expanded their operations. Then land values plummeted and bankers started realizing that the loans they had made to these farmers were no longer secured with enough equity. They started calling their customer's notes due. Thousands of farmers were forced to sell out. My Dad survived by the skin of his teeth. He decided there was no future in farming and told me I was going to college. My younger brother was a better fit for farming anyway. My Dad knew that I wasn't really cut out to be a farmer (my nose in a book all the time might have been the tip-off). A crises for many created an opportunity for me. Like Stoner I majored in English Literature.

Stoner becomes a teacher. He decides not to go to war with his friends and suffers from the stigma of swimming against the tide. This is a theme for Stoner, going his own way, ignoring the odd looks, and the snide remarks. He meets a demure young woman named Edith and pursues her doggedly believing that his kindness would be recognized and appreciated by someone so fragile. The description of the consummation of the marriage is one of the grimmest most agonizing that I have ever read.

"Edith was in bed with the covers pulled to her chin, her face turned upward, her eyes closed, a thin frown creasing her forehead. Silently, as if she were asleep, Stoner undressed and got into bed beside her. For several moments he lay with his desire, which had become an impersonal thing, belonging to himself alone. He spoke to Edith, as if to find a haven for what he felt; she did not answer. he put his hand upon her and felt beneath the thin cloth of her nightgown the flesh he had longed for. He moved his hand upon her; she did not stir; her frown deepened. Again he spoke, saying her name to silence; then he moved his body upon her, gentle in his clumsiness. When he touched the softness of her thighs she turned her head sharply away and lifted her arm to cover her eyes. She made no sound."

For a man so sensual and in need of romantic love he unfortunately married the wrong woman. He hoped for a partner, but found himself roped to a woman that embraced invalidism and waged nasty little wars against him that by his nature made him incapable of defending himself. He finds solace in books and spends more and more of his time at the University in Jesse Hall reading.


Jesse Hall at the University of Missouri

Stoner makes enemies of some of his coworkers. He is so unsuited for office politics that it proves to be a detriment to him. Though I was so proud of him towards the end of the book when he cleverly outflanks a department chair intent on driving him from the profession.

He meets a woman, a very special woman as if molded by the gods to be the perfect mate for him. Her name is Katherine Driscoll and the gymnastics involved with the misinterpretations, missteps and miscues of their burgeoning relationship left me emotionally drained. There are movies sometimes or television shows where the audience is on the edge of their seat waiting for the moment when the characters finally realize they are meant to be together and kiss for the first time. Well it wasn't a kiss that became that epic moment for William and Katherine.

"He found himself trembling; as awkwardly as a boy he went around the coffee table and sat beside her. Tentatively, clumsily, their hands went out to each other; they clasped each other in an awkward, strained embrace; and for a long time they sat together without moving, as if any movement might let escape from them the strange and terrible thing that they held between them in a single grasp."

Stoner's enemies leap at an opportunity to destroy him. Even the liberal community of a university has it's limits. Stoner for the first time in his life is becoming the person he always wanted to be, but the heady days of joy are under assault, and he is trapped by his own sense of honor. He suffers for love just as he is starting to understand it.

"In this forty-third year William Stoner learned what others much younger, had learned before him: that the person one loves at first is not the person one loves at last, and that love is not an end but a process through which one person attempts to know another."

This is such a deceptively simple novel. The sparse, powerful prose give this book so much depth. Stoner gets under your skin. He is so stoic in the face of continued and unremitting harassment from the people around him that I found myself sharing the pain with him. The author John Williams grew up on a small farm in Texas and had a similar escape to the University as Stoner and I. He ended up developing the writing program for the University of Denver. In the introduction by John McGahern he relates something that Mr. Williams said that resonates with me as well.

Williams complains about the changes in the teaching of literature and the attitude to the text "as if a novel or poem is something to be studied and understood rather than experienced."


John Williams

I'm a reader that likes to be told a story. I don't want to break books down to their mathematical or scientific structures. I want the mysticism, the emotion of a journey that expands my understanding of humanity. William Stoner is as real to me as the mailman that delivers my mail or the publisher that signs my checks. If I ever run into him I will shake his large, farm hardened hand and ask him if he has a little bit of time to talk to me about a certain sonnet written by a man by the name of Shakespeare.
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Reading Progress

April 23, 2012 – Shelved
July 22, 2012 – Started Reading
July 25, 2012 – Finished Reading
July 17, 2018 – Shelved as: nyrb
May 12, 2020 – Shelved as: academia

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Corey What a beautiful novel.


Jeffrey Keeten Corey wrote: "What a beautiful novel."

I can't wait to read it. I plan to pick up a copy next month. My book budget for this month is shot.


Corey You won't be disappointed.


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Diane Barnes This is one of the most beautiful books ever written. I think about Stoner and his sad, beautiful, honorable life often. I can't wait to read your review of this one.


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Shannon How is it, Jeffrey?


Jeffrey Keeten StoryTellerShannon wrote: "How is it, Jeffrey?"

Deceptively simple book. I have a lot of affinity with Mr. Stoner. I have been thinking about it all day and been wanting to get home to read it. This work thing...gets in the way of reading.


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Shannon Nice. I've added it.


Jeffrey Keeten Diane wrote: "This is one of the most beautiful books ever written. I think about Stoner and his sad, beautiful, honorable life often. I can't wait to read your review of this one."

Wow Diane! I'm just getting to the meat of the book and I feel a tingle.


Kris What a lovely review, Jeffrey. Your last paragraph beautifully conveys the reality at the heart of finely drawn and developed literary characters. I am adding this book to my tbr list so I can meet William Stoner too.


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Tom Thanks for the review. I was completely unaware of this book and writer. I've added him to the list!


Jeffrey Keeten Kris wrote: "What a lovely review, Jeffrey. Your last paragraph beautifully conveys the reality at the heart of finely drawn and developed literary characters. I am adding this book to my tbr list so I can meet..."

Thank you Kris. I hope it resonates with you the same way it did for me. You'll like Stoner and you might even wish he had an office down the hall from yours.


Jeffrey Keeten Tom wrote: "Thanks for the review. I was completely unaware of this book and writer. I've added him to the list!"

Thanks Tom! He has another book called Butcher's Crossingset in 1870s Kansas that I really want to read as well. The publisher New York Review Books is bringing a lot of great books back into print.


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Terry Great review Jeffrey! Sounds like a great book.


Jeffrey Keeten Terry wrote: "Great review Jeffrey! Sounds like a great book."

Thanks Terry! One of those hidden gems I hadn't heard of until a year or so ago.


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Diane Barnes Beautiful job, Jeffrey. Some books are read and relegated to the back of one's brain, some books are too real and the characters become a part of your character as well. This is one of those books for me.


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Wordsmith Vundebar! Swooning....


Jeffrey Keeten Diane wrote: "Beautiful job, Jeffrey. Some books are read and relegated to the back of one's brain, some books are too real and the characters become a part of your character as well. This is one of those book..."

Thank you Diane! There was so much packed into this slender volume for me to work with.

The title seems to give the wrong impression to people. I had someone ask me if this was about an addict. Yes, of course, stoned on literature.


Jeffrey Keeten Wordsmith wrote: "Vundebar! Swooning...."

You dug up a word from the urban dictionary, very cool. Thank you kindly Wordsmith! I have missed your discourse. I'm so glad you enjoyed the review.


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Lisa Reads & Reviews Lovely review! Will add this one....to the tall, tall stack of to-reads.


Jeffrey Keeten Chance wrote: "Lovely review! Will add this one....to the tall, tall stack of to-reads."

Thank you Chance! Yes, I do know, my stacks have stacks. This is a little gem that few seem to know about. Thank goodness NYRB decided to publish it. I'm becoming a big fan of their choices.


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Lisa Reads & Reviews Jeffrey wrote: "Chance wrote: "Lovely review! Will add this one....to the tall, tall stack of to-reads."

Thank you Chance! Yes, I do know, my stacks have stacks. This is a little gem that few seem to know about. ..."


Thanks! The NYRB website is interesting. I subscribed to their newsletter. Always on the prowl for good books...


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Two things you wrote struck me:

1)Stoner becomes a teacher. He decides not to go to war with his friends and suffers from the stigma of swimming against the tide. This is a theme for Stoner, going his own way, ignoring the odd looks, and the snide remarks

Blessed, self-identifiction. One of the reasons I read. I find the strength I need to carry the weight of being a contrarian individualist.

2)I'm a reader that likes to be told a story. I don't want to break books down to their mathematical or scientific structures. I want the mysticism, the emotion of a journey that expands my understanding of humanity. William Stoner is as real to me as the mailman that delivers my mail or the publisher that signs my checks. If I ever run into him I will shake his large, farm hardened hand and ask him if he has a little bit of time to talk to me about a certain sonnet written by a man by the name of Shakespeare.

Lovely. I feel the same way. Beloved characters are my best friends. Consolotation friends for the ones who do not exist in real life. To me, reading is a sacrament.


Jeffrey Keeten Steve wrote: "Two things you wrote struck me:

1)Stoner becomes a teacher. He decides not to go to war with his friends and suffers from the stigma of swimming against the tide. This is a theme for Stoner, going..."


Thanks Steve for your encouraging comments. Books have always been by my best friends, but with that said my GR friends are quickly becoming those friends I've spent a lifetime looking for. I do believe that Mr. Stoner should meet Mr. Kendall.


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carol. Eloquent review.


Jeffrey Keeten Carol wrote: "Eloquent review."

Thank you Carol!


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Wordsmith Jeffery, I was just curious. Is The University of Missouri the one that's in Rolla, Missouri? I was wondering if Stoner was there in '63-'64 ish? We lived there at that time and my dad was a major College-Addict. No matter where he was stationed, he sought out a University, more classes, more credits, which to him were kinda like potato chips; one degree, two degrees, were just not enough for him.


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Gary Wordsmith wrote: "Jeffery, I was just curious. Is The University of Missouri the one that's in Rolla, Missouri? I was wondering if Stoner was there in '63-'64 ish? We lived there at that time and my dad was a major ..."


Nope, darlin' . Stoner is set in Columbia, MO, UMC, University of Missouri, Columbia....also called Mizzou.


Rolla was called School of Mines. UMR when you lived there... University of Rolla,and now it's newest name is Missouri Science & Technology. My son goes to school there,and I grew up in the area. Actually I went to high school in St. James, but worked in Rolla as a young adult.

HOpe that clears things up, clear as mud!


:-) gary


message 28: by Wordsmith (new)

Wordsmith Thank you Mr. Gary. Am I given some leeway, as I was naught but a babe at the time? A terrible two year young toddler? (No excusing the future 50 year young(ster) who failed to look up said info her own no excuse self) Though YOUR info clears up whence the Geology Degree came ; ) Mud all clear.


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Gary Wordsmith wrote: "Thank you Mr. Gary. Am I given some leeway, as I was naught but a babe at the time? A terrible two year young toddler? (No excusing the future 50 year young(ster) who failed to look up said info he..."


Of course, my dear, on the leeway.....


Jeffrey Keeten Wordsmith wrote: "Thank you Mr. Gary. Am I given some leeway, as I was naught but a babe at the time? A terrible two year young toddler? (No excusing the future 50 year young(ster) who failed to look up said info he..."

Gary is my Missouri historian. I knew he would give you a great answer. Did you go to college Wordsmith? Or did you jump right into the working pool?


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Wordsmith I've had the pleasure of going to college not only one time but like so much in life I said, "I wany more!" and went back for a second round. First time I knew what I wanted, Art major/ArtHistory minor. I was one of the few, the proud, the elite—I was a part of New College, excempt from all core, we had classes from all the Colleges within the University laid open at our feet, for our choosing, get the credt hours combined with intense but liberating seminars that focused on expanding our youthful, dull, closed minds which was ultra stimulating and way cool. Those New College Professors were simply the best. BTW, there were only 3 models for this program: Oxford, Harvard and The U of A. Second time was messy: Although I was grandfathered in my old catalogue, what a break! Still no math! I was so undecided. Flip flopping from Religious Studies to English Lit to finally Environmental Studies. Had to leave early though, my body said "No, not this time."


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s.penkevich Wow, this sounds good. I keep meaning to buy this, I think I will now. I always feel like it would be a weird mix of young me (books title haha) and older me after I'm a teacher, and such a clash terrifies me ha. You're an lit major as well? Awesome, and it definitely shows in your reviews. I hope to someday do something with mine.


Jeffrey Keeten s.penkevich wrote: "Wow, this sounds good. I keep meaning to buy this, I think I will now. I always feel like it would be a weird mix of young me (books title haha) and older me after I'm a teacher, and such a clash t..."

You'll like this book Penkevich especially with the college politics which if you are planning on teaching at that level you will experience it first hand. I was vacillating between a business degree and English Lit. English was what I wanted to do, but I also wanted to be practical. A professor told me to go with an English degree because being able to write reports effectively and express my thoughts verbally would be more useful to my success than a business degree. He was so right.

Thank you! I'm so glad that you enjoy my reviews.

Every one of my reviews is a jigsaw puzzle that I hope I put together in such a way as to form a recognizable picture.


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s.penkevich Good choice. I've always seen an English degree as a positive (despite all the jokes it gets), seeing as you basically learn a vast variety of subject matters through the books you read and come out well rounded. And then you can go for the more employable masters degree in a different subject with the know-how to write, as you mention.

College politics, that makes me excited to read this. I'm only sad the other John Williams doesn't include an epic soundtrack to go with the book.


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Diane Barnes Definitely get this one, Penkovich. I recommend this book to a lot of people, and they all claim to be deeply affected by it. I don't know why it's not more widely known. I also read "Augustus", which was beautifully written, but I would have enjoyed it more had I had more knowledge of early Roman history. I need to get "Butcher's Crossing".


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Wordsmith I'm going to have to come up with some kind of algorithm or something in order to keep up or sway me one way or the other when making that final decision of which next purchase I go with. When reading as many books per month as any vein stripping addict (thank God my vice is mind-blowing, just in a good way, although, it too leaves marks, tracks in my mind, at least I've learned SOMETHING) I have to be picky, can't just run out every month buying every single book just because I wants it. *30 x $9.99.* Even if that's the maximum, it's apparent that's a little too much. So an algorithm including my desire to read said book, my basic love for that genre—not that I have a love more of one, than for any of the other "ones," the availability of the book, the cost: is it a lot? not so much? might I already have the book? I've bought e-books only to find later there it sits, hard backed and tangible on my bookshelf, now THAT'S a bummer. Yes, I NEED a way to sort out all these great books. My shelf, my desire, my greed, my read needs, they all runneth over. It's my wallet that doesn't.


Jeffrey Keeten Wordsmith wrote: "I'm going to have to come up with some kind of algorithm or something in order to keep up or sway me one way or the other when making that final decision of which next purchase I go with. When read..."

I've been buying books this morning like a bibliophile drunk on tankards of beer, meandering from bookstore to bookstore, throwing banknotes at booksellers in the town of Hay-on-Wye. I have blown my book budget for the month of August and yes this is the 1st. I had to put myself on a budget this year because GR was proving too tempting. Are you familiar with the website abebooks.com? They have cheap books, signed books, expensive books about any book you could possibly be looking for. They get a good portion of my monthly budget since I live in a book wasteland, alas no bookstores. I understand thy dilemma Miss Wordsmith with budgeting for books.


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beautiful review for a beautiful book. great review. this book is in my top ten and deserves to be read!


Jeffrey Keeten Emily wrote: "beautiful review for a beautiful book. great review. this book is in my top ten and deserves to be read!"

Thanks Emily! For a short book I felt like I had a lot to work with for the review. After reading the book I am mystified why it isn't better known.


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Diane Barnes Jeffrey, you're in Hay-on-Wye? I am so jealous! That place is on my bucket list.


Jeffrey Keeten Diane wrote: "Jeffrey, you're in Hay-on-Wye? I am so jealous! That place is on my bucket list."

No, I wish, I've been buying books on line as if I were on a drunken book spree in Hay-on-Wye. It is on my bucket list as well. I wonder how does one even begin to budget (for books) for a visit to Hay-On-Wye?


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Kris I got to visit Hay-on-Wye when I was doing dissertation research in Hereford. It was blissful, but so overwhelming it was hard to decide what to look for first. I remember wandering around in a happy daze for a while.


Jeffrey Keeten Kris wrote: "I got to visit Hay-on-Wye when I was doing dissertation research in Hereford. It was blissful, but so overwhelming it was hard to decide what to look for first. I remember wandering around in a hap..."

My impression is the best thing for me to do is dust off my old book shelving skills and take a job working in one of the shops for about six months.

FYI if I ever get time to have a midlife crisis I will more likely be found at Hay-on-Wye than say tooling around the countryside on a Harley with a blonde two decades too young.


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Kris I think you have excellent midlife crisis plans, Jeffrey (not that I hope that you have one). And the countryside is beautiful around Hay-on-Wye, so you would have lovely places to sit and read when you weren't selling.


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Wordsmith Alas, I left out a bit of my dilemma. Not only do I have all those matter of things, flowing and running out, leaking all over the place, plethora's of sprees sprayed for me to face everyday. See, when I moved from my house to this cramped hovel what did I bring? Not ALL 3 antique Victrola's! Not things such as mere "stuff" as this! No—I brought books.

Now, I'm tripping over books, reaching over books, sleeping with six or more stacks of unread books. I've got boxed-up books, bagged ones too; those being the forgettable ones I unfortunately kept. There are the books in the closet, the "best ones" kept under glass, and even the pretty book-ended ones not to mention those shelved and waiting to be shelved books. I am in book paradise. If one doesn't mind tripping or shoving stacks of stuff around. Daily.

Still, what do addicts do? They get their fix. Even when their mind runneth over.
I am very fearful of abebooks.com Jeffery.

(I did keep the "best" victrola. Not THAT crazy...)


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Wordsmith Maybe I could find some part-time enjoyment, errr, employment. Whatever. Same thing. Right?


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Wordsmith Bookspeak. Just the books. : ) If I fell in a hole, I'm diggin' topside right away.


Jeffrey Keeten Wordsmith wrote: "Alas, I left out a bit of my dilemma. Not only do I have all those matter things, flowing and running out, leaking all over the place, plethora's of sprees sprayed for me to face everyday. See, whe..."

I am fortunate to have a room in the basement not required for anything else. Over the years I have built shelving along the walls leaving spaces for a few prints so that I don't look totally insane when people visit. Although as time goes on I may start chucking prints and build more shelves. Last year I inventoried all of my books into google documents to keep track of what I have and also have access to my book collection list on my phone if say I can't remember if I have a book or not. My books have no organization beyond that books by the same author are nestled together. Annoying system for everyone in the family but me. haha


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Nancy Lovely review, Jeffrey. Must check this one out.


Jeffrey Keeten Nancy wrote: "Lovely review, Jeffrey. Must check this one out."

Thank you Nancy! It was a nice surprise. One of those hidden gems.


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