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A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift
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Gloom and doom

When I was an undergraduate, Thomas Malthus� 1798 An Essay on the Principle of Population was on the geography curriculum, and as a studious student, I read (some of) it.

It was depressing, as the gist seemed to be that we’re all going to die. All of us. Slowly. Painfully. Because population grows exponentially, whereas the ability of humans to feed themselves grows only arithmetically/ linearly.


Image: Linear versus exponential growth (.)

So we’ll starve. And before that, we’ll be too poor to buy what food there is, because population growth will increase the labour supply and drive down wages. The birth rate must be cut. Celibacy should be promoted, too. And higher death rates accepted.

Kenneth Boulding’s poem, from a 20th century environmental angle, seemed to agree:

A Conservationist’s Lament

The world is finite, resources are scarce,
Things are bad and will be worse.
Coal is burned and gas exploded,
Forests cut and soils eroded.
Wells are dry and air’s polluted,
Dust is blowing, trees uprooted,
Oil is going, ores depleted,
Drains receive what is excreted.
Land is sinking, seas are rising,
Man is far too enterprising.
Fire will rage with Man to fan it,
Soon we’ll have a plundered planet.
People breed like fertile rabbits,
People have disgusting habits.

Moral:
The evolutionary plan
Went astray by evolving Man.


(Douglas Adams agreed with that moral.)

Soylent pink?

I also discovered that seventy years before Malthus� book, Jonathan Swift had a different solution to the problem of overpopulation. A Modest Proposal starts with grim descriptions of extreme poverty and hunger in Ireland:
�It is a melancholy object to those, who walk through this great town, or travel in the country, when they see the streets, the roads, and cabbin-doors crowded with beggars of the female sex, followed by three, four, or six children, all in rags, and importuning every passenger for an alms� [and] women murdering their bastard children.�

A particular problem is that children are an expense for years before their parents can get any return on the investment they can’t afford in the first place:
�I am assured by our merchants, that a boy or a girl, before twelve years old, is no saleable commodity.�

After such concern, his “modest� proposal is a total shock, and would have been even more so to 18th century readers unused to deadpan satire:
�A young healthy child well nursed, is, at a year old, a most delicious nourishing and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricasee, or a ragoust.�


Image: Dinner! (.)

He goes into great detail, not just culinary, but about the practicalities of the trade. He indirectly mocks his own suggestion by saying the only possible objection anyone might have is that it would reduce the population, which, he points out, is his intention. And just in case readers can’t think of any better solutions, such as raising taxes, controlling rents, buying local products, he lists them (supposedly to dismiss them).

But we’re still here

(I hope that writing that during the Coronavirus Covid-19 pandemic isn’t tempting fate.)

When I was reading Swift and Malthus a couple of centuries after they were written, there was certainly poverty and hunger around the world, even in England, and the Chinese was being strictly enforced. Malthusianism hadn’t gone away, but it hadn’t entirely come true either. I had no immediate fears of starvation or even poverty.

Why was this, I wondered? Kenneth Boulding had an answer:

The Technologist’s Reply

Man’s potential is quite terrific,
You can’t go back to the Neolithic.
The cream is there for us to skim it,
Knowledge is power, and the sky’s the limit.
Every mouth has hands to feed it,
Food is found when people need it.
All we need is found in granite
Once we have the men to plan it.
Yeast and algae give us meat,
Soil is almost obsolete.
Men can grow to pastures greener
Till all the earth is Pasadena.

Moral:
Man’s a nuisance, Man’s a crackpot.
But only Man can hit the jackpot.


Back then, I was firmly with the optimistic technologist.

As a cynical middle-aged adult in a country torn by Brexit and ravaged by a global pandemic, I think both poems miss the crucial social-political aspects, and the fact that humans are not omnipotent.

Science has certainly helped, but it's not all positive:
* Crops and livestock have higher yields and are more resistant to disease - but there are risks from GM and antibiotic resistance.
* Land that was unsuitable for farming, can now be used - but irrigation in one place leaves others barren.
* Machines work faster than people - so some lose their jobs.
* Packaging and chilling reduce damage - and yet waste increases.
* Efficiency increases in many spheres - but that increases demand, so resources are used up faster ().
* Technological advances benefit the rich more than the poor.

And we could all be wiped out by a virus. Cheers!


Image: Optimist, pessimist, realist, opportunist (.)

Sources

You can read Swift and Malthus, free on Gutenberg:
* A Modest Proposal,
* An Essay on the Principle of Population, .
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Reading Progress

1986 – Started Reading
1986 – Finished Reading
June 6, 2020 – Shelved
June 6, 2020 – Shelved as: politics
June 6, 2020 – Shelved as: humour
June 6, 2020 – Shelved as: horror
June 6, 2020 – Shelved as: dystopian-apocalyptic
June 6, 2020 – Shelved as: food
June 6, 2020 – Shelved as: ireland

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Sara Terrific review! I read this in college, and recall it sparked a lively discussion, and then again recently. Swift is a skilled satirist. I doubt the problems of man or the problems man creates will ever be entirely solved, and most of the imaginings of a future when all problems seem to be solved makes for dystopian, not utopian, literature.


Cecily Sara wrote: "Terrific review! I read this in college, and recall it sparked a lively discussion, and then again recently..."

It certainly should spark lively discussion!

Sara wrote: "I doubt the problems of man or the problems man creates will ever be entirely solved, and most of the imaginings of a future when all problems seem to be solved makes for dystopian, not utopian, literature."

I totally agree.


Eleni Used this to teach proposal writing to my freshmen this year. The word choice and structure and tone are excellent.


Cecily Eleni wrote: "Used this to teach proposal writing to my freshmen this year. The word choice and structure and tone are excellent."

What a good idea! The language style is a little old-fashioned, but easily understood, and the structure and method demonstrate an excellent way to persuade.


Michael Perkins This reminds me of The Population Bomb (1968) by Paul Ehrlich. It was on the cover of all the news magazines, the author gave congressional testimony and I read recently he appeared on Johnny Carson's "Tonight Show" 20x.

I hope you can view this. It gives a good overview.



on the other side, Hans Rosling...




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Apatt Great review,Mrs. What a strange book.

"Science has certainly helped, but it's not all positive:"

Well, as long as you are led by science but don't test positive.


Cecily Michael wrote: "This reminds me of The Population Bomb (1968) by Paul Ehrlich...
on the other side, Hans Rosling..."


Thanks for both those, and yes. Fascinating, and well-explained in both.


message 8: by Cecily (last edited Jun 09, 2020 02:03AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Cecily Apatt wrote: "Great review,Mrs. What a strange book...."

18th century political satire. There's not a lot of it about.

Apatt wrote: "Science has certainly helped, but it's not all positive:"
Well, as long as you are led by science but don't test positive."


We're led who merely claim to be led by science. Hence we have the highest Covid-19 per-capita death rate in the world.


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Caroline What a brilliant review Cecily - I got so much from reading it. Those poems were just perfect in illustrating your thoughts.

I used to belong the the organisation called 'Population Concern' (now renamed Population Matters), and still have a lot of sympathy for their concerns. On the other hand I was impressed when I heard one of Hans Rosling's talks, arguing that attitudes are changing for the better. I don't know. Pessimistic critter that I am at heart I think Kenneth Boulding's poem would be the one on my banner :O(


Cecily Caroline wrote: "What a brilliant review Cecily - I got so much from reading it. Those poems were just perfect in illustrating your thoughts....
Pessimistic critter that I am at heart I think Kenneth Boulding's poem would be the one on my banner :O("


Thanks, Caroline. And I presume you mean pessimistic you's banner would have the first poem (they're both by Boulding).


Mark  Porton That is quite simply a brilliant review and an entertaining and thought provoking read Cecily. I think I'm definitely in the realist camp on this one with a dash of pessimism regarding he future of us, the planet, everything. A book I just read (Sapiens) expressed the view we are unlikely to be around - humans that is - in a millennium. It's not long in evolutionary terms. But re the exponential way we are mugging the planet, it's probably realistic. I love the curves at the start of your review BTW - explains the issue succinctly. I reckon as a collective we are a pretty dumb lot really.


Cecily Mark wrote: "That is quite simply a brilliant review and an entertaining and thought provoking read Cecily. I think I'm definitely in the realist camp..."

Thanks, Mark. I'm glad you're more of a realist than an opportunist!

Mark wrote: "... I reckon as a collective we are a pretty dumb lot really."

En masse, yes, and some individuals a lot more than others. But how to fix it/us?


Eleni Out of curiosity, what held you back from a five star review?


Cecily Eleni wrote: "Out of curiosity, what held you back from a five star review?"

Because I'm mean with stars!
And more particularly because I reserve the fifth one for books that are really outstanding or transformative in some way.


message 15: by Caroline (new)

Caroline Ah, thank you, yes, the first poem.


Petra is wondering when this dawn will beome day That's why God sent coronavirus. To stop us starving ourselves to death. Then when we die and we've been good, we can sit on clouds and with lyre or harp compose music to go with poetry. It's going to be a wonderful after-life.


Cecily Petra-X wrote: "That's why God sent coronavirus. To stop us starving ourselves to death..."

Well, that's a rather less repugnant and fractionally less implausible view than god sending hurricanes, floods, Coronavirus, war etc because of marriage equality. 😉

Petra-X wrote: "... Then when we die and we've been good, we can sit on clouds and with lyre or harp compose music to go with poetry. It's going to be a wonderful after-life."

LOL. But I think I'd be lonely in the unlikely event I made it to Heaven!


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Carmen Great review!


Petra is wondering when this dawn will beome day Cecily wrote: "LOL. But I think I'd be lonely in the unlikely event I made it to Heaven!,..."

Nah, I gotta plan...

'Marriage equality what did I miss?


Cecily Carmen wrote: "Great review!"

Thanks!


Cecily Petra-X wrote: "'Marriage equality what did I miss?"

Pat Robertson, Westbro' Baptist and other extremest evangelical so-called "Christians" invariably blame such disasters on gay marriage. Why on earth you'd want to worship a god who you think causes thousands of non-gay people to suffer and even die because of the decisions of politicians and sexuality of others, I have no idea.


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Jaidee I so enjoyed this review Cecily ! I especially like the first poem you included :)


Cecily Jaidee wrote: "I so enjoyed this review Cecily ! I especially like the first poem you included :)"

Thanks, Jaidee. I just wish I could have more faith in the second poem, as I did in my optimist youth.


message 24: by flo (new) - rated it 4 stars

flo This review truly does justice to Swift’s proposal � brilliantly written! And thought-provoking; science and the dual nature of its consequences have been perfectly portrayed.


Cecily Florencia wrote: "This review truly does justice to Swift’s proposal � brilliantly written! And thought-provoking; science and the dual nature of its consequences have been perfectly portrayed."

Thank you so much, Florencia. It was fun to revisit after so many years, when I'm hopefully a little older and wiser.


message 26: by Debi (new)

Debi Cates Cecily, you are a woman after my own heart: not afraid to say what you think.

AND you THINK. So many these days have a boil where their brains should be. Or is it they have a boil where their hearts should be.


Cecily Debi wrote: "Cecily, you are a woman after my own heart: not afraid to say what you think..."

Ha! Thank you, Debi. I don't especially recommend you read Malthus (Wikipedia will do), but Swift is worth a look, imo.


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