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Caste by Isabel Wilkerson
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Caste, Isabel Wilkerson, author, Robin Miles, narrator
Where do I begin? I will begin at the beginning. In the first few pages of the book, “Caste� seems like an even handed explanation of society’s ills. When it began to describe the demands of the supremacists and the behavior of the protesters, I was sure she was describing the bullying democrats. After all, demanding that we have a woman of color as the Vice Presidential nominee is an example of the worst kind of supremacy and blackmail. I thought of the chaos in the streets of Portland, Oregon, Seattle, and Washington, of the wanton murders in Chicago, Illinois. I thought, surely she must be condemning the violence, but no, she was excusing it by justifying it because of what she insists is the existence of a caste system in America.
The book quickly descends into what it was intended to be a piece of propaganda used to trash the Republicans, and those associated with them, as it fawns over the Progressives and their ideas for America, which will likely take them down the path of Venezuela. The book begins and ends in a hate-fest directed toward President Trump, the Republican point of view, and condemns, overtly or subtly, anything and anyone that disagrees with any of the “pillars� she presents, as sure signs of our caste system’s development, and as proof that Republicans and white people in general, especially those who supported Trump, view themselves as the dominant class and are the enemies of those they believe are beneath them in value.
The author cherry picks facts, and even misrepresents others, in order to support her thesis about the caste system she creates in the book. She insists that race is not the problem, but it is the idea that one group is superior to another that causes the problem. She advances the idea that her group is actually deserving of that honor, even as she trashes everyone else. She spoon feeds us her opinions as proven doctrine and condemns those who disagree with her premises as automatically racist or part of the dominant caste with their arrogant views about their own superiority. I found her view of her own superiority, in every example she provided, about her own life and experiences, to be over generalized and exaggerated. Many instances were interpreted by her, as racist, but didn’t really have to be. They could merely have been misunderstandings on the part of all involved. She attributes all offenses, no matter how rare, to the idea of a caste system existing in this country, similar to that of India, which I found absurd. India is a third world country and we are the leaders of the world.
Slavery was and will always be evil; there is no doubt about that. I believe that society has to move on, but apparently, she disagrees. I believe if we don’t, we remain stuck with our hate and our anger and never recover. We fought a war to end slavery. The horrendous concept of owning individuals was defeated, although in the Democrat society of the south, it lingered. So why does the author blame the right and not the left? In addition, the fact that they, and the country were unprepared for how their future would unfold,, does not prove that there is a caste system. It proves that the plan to take the slave population forward was wanting or given little thought. Eradicating the class and the color bias would be, and still is, difficult, but this book, pretending to be a well researched document, but which is based on anecdotes, will defeat any possibility of unity among people of different backgrounds if it is to be believed. This author cherry picks her evidence, regardless of whether or not that evidence accurately represents the state of affairs that exists in the United States. Comparing America to a third world country that justifies the caste system as a religion is dishonest and disingenuous, at best.
The author has decided that if she is mistreated at an airport, by a repairman, at a restaurant, it is always because of this caste system, where the dominant class looks down on the less important class. She gives no credence to the times she is afforded more respect than others because of her accomplishments, or to the fact that she is respected far more often than the few times she is insulted. Who among us, white, black, red, yellow or any color, etc. or religion, has not been insulted at one time or another? Is that a result of a caste system or of the actions of some stupid people? I prefer to think that there are stupid people everywhere, and unless the insult is egregious, ignore it. As a Jew, I have been subjected to many insults and many lost opportunities, so I work harder to accomplish my goals. Not every insult is a crime or the result of white privilege or Brahmin privilege, but for sure, she is demanding that people of color now have that privilege at the expense of others. She is not making the case for equality and the end of what she calls the caste system, she is demanding that we forgive the travesties committed by those of color because it is not their fault, and so we need to afford them privileges. She even goes so far as to assign the responsibility of the earlier deaths of Mexicans, immigrants, and people of color to the white dominant class, which somehow makes them sick, causing them to develop their illnesses and die.
The book’s message is contrived. She believes that the behavior of those who break the law is the fault of the privileged that prey upon them. She almost justifies their lawlessness by insisting that it is the caste system and white supremacy which forces them to commit crimes. Injustice makes them do it. Is there no personal responsibility for one’s behavior after decades of progress, even after the election of what was called the “first black President�, even after a body of government becomes well represented by people of color, a body represented by far more than their percentages in modern society?
The author’s narrative soon begins to seem condescending and so does the tone of the narrator reading the book to her listeners. It is almost pompous in the assumption that she is correct and anyone who disagrees is, therefore, by her definition, a racist who believes in the caste system and their own superiority. Disagree and you are guilty. She does not believe that race divides us, but rather she seems to believe that it is the idea that one group is endowed with the right to reign superior over another. She believes the idea of caste immutable. That would be fine if her message did not infer that the tables should be reversed, which kind of reinforces what she calls the caste system, but for a different group of people.
By searching for facts to prove her theory, she disregards the mountain of facts that disprove it. How can you ignore the election of Barack Obama with a straight face and accuse the country of suffering from this caste issue? She presents her view and counts on the reader to accept it as gospel. After all, even Oprah Winfrey recommends this book and declares it should be a classic used in the classroom. Is Oprah the credible authority on this when she is one of the richest females in the world? This book will not unite us, but will actually further the cause of the current protests and disruptions of society that have become commonplace. It is unforgiving and unrelenting in its accusations of systemic mistreatment. If I do not believe that to be true, I am automatically part of the privileged caste, according to Wilkerson.
In our society, we have a black caucus, a black TV network, safe spaces for people of color, and other examples of special treatment for certain segments of society, so why is that not a symptom of the caste society that perpetuates it? Aren’t the tables being turned when a demand is made to only have a female, person of color as the Vice Presidential candidate of the Democrats? Does that mean the caste system allows for the interchange of positions, for those that feel they are being treated as “less than� to now make demands that treat others as “less than�? Does that mean she does not truly advocate for the elimination of the system, but just means to replace those in charge of the system? Although America has rewarded this author with success and renown, she seems unhappy with the country. Throughout the first half of the book, she cites nothing positive about this country, nothing that indicates any progress toward overcoming this “supposed� caste system. She simply seems hell-bent on proving it exists and will bridge no opposition to her theory. I am judged by her to be a white supremacist by virtue of the fact that I lucked out with the color of my skin.
I had serious doubts about my ability to complete the book. I soldiered on, because although she writes with a superior air of intellect, and seems unaware of any wrongdoing or negative behavior by her brethren, unless she believes it is justified by how they have been treated, I had hoped to eventually see some sign of positive message rather than one that sought to justify or trade one supremacist group’s position for another’s. However, that never happened, in fact, it got worse as she once again trashed Trump at the end and made her true purpose of propaganda, more evident.
This author blames everything on Trump, using the popular talking points. Trump caused the violence we witness. Trump caused the pandemic. The Corona Virus is a disease sent round the world by China, a disease we were unprepared for because of previous administrations which left us unprepared. This author gives no credit to America for elevating Obama to the highest office, but rather says that the minorities elected him. She supports the removal of statues and the rewriting of history to wipe out the parts she doesn’t like. She supports Black Lives Matter although the effort has descended into chaos and bullying complete with violence and ancillary organizations corrupting their message. She doesn’t believe in ID’s for voting, although she cannot travel without one. She is against the electoral college and favors majority rule. According to Wilkerson, immigrants and people of color, the descendants of slaves, do not live as long as whites because white supremacy makes them ill. Using examples of education success, happiness ranking, and other ideas, without taking the size of population or demographics into consideration, she declares we are woefully lacking. If H1N1 had been as bad as the Corona Virus (and it was lucky for Obama that it wasn’t), millions, not thousands would have died. Honesty is not the strongest point of the book.
When she pointed to the fact that Einstein compared the racism in America to the Holocaust in Germany, she lost me completely. I absolutely disagree with that assessment and point to it as proof of her lack of credibility regarding the premise of this book. She alters and manipulates information without proper documentation. She wants a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to deal with the reality of the Caste System. Isn’t that just what the country needs, another investigation? Perhaps it is what she needs to assess her book appropriately and fairly.


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message 1: by Rod (new) - added it

Rod Horncastle Thank you. Great review.


thewanderingjew Rod wrote: "Thank you. Great review."

THANK YOU! :-)


message 3: by eClaghorn (new)

eClaghorn Yes, thanks for that review. Now I feel I have enough to feel like I read it and tell others why it's crap. Saved me some time, very much appreciated.


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Maria you clearly do not know what you are actually talking about. the fact that you compare american progressives to Maduro/ socialist governments clearly shows you are the one brainwashed by right wing and fascist ideologies that the current president and current republicans espouse and preach. if you knew anything about social democrats (Progressives like AOC and Sanders) which by the way, are a thing in germany, sweden, norway, finland, netherlands, and UK as well as other countries in the EU ( Finland not being in the EU) , you would know that social democracy which is what Sanders and AOC aim for, do not bring about a socialist Venezuela like your friends at Breitbart and Fox News preach, but a more equal society.


Susan Sad and sorry review


Vagabond of Letters, DLitt Found the two leftists who want to kill us and brainwash our kids


Susan Such a ridiculous review - adds weight to Wilkerson’s thesis.


Brian Thanks for the review. I love the “if you don’t like the book it just proves what the book says� responses


message 9: by eClaghorn (new)

eClaghorn Yes thanks, if we don't admit to having white privilege that's a sure sign we have it. Unfalsifiable claims are the best


message 10: by eClaghorn (new)

eClaghorn I think you may have found thewanderingjew a new job. "A polemic"? How would you identity a polemic book, if not one that consistently bashes one side of a political issue? Please cite examples from the book that praises Trump or conservative positions. Then maybe I will read it. Otherwise I will take the review as is and ignore the book.


message 11: by eClaghorn (new)

eClaghorn "You're literally commenting on a book you've never read". False. I never commented on the book, I commented on the review. As to reading only those things that agree with my "narrow view", I just finished off Rules for Radicals, about as far from my "narrow view" as you can get. Suggestions? Sure, Jason Riley, Taleeb Starkes, Thomas Sowell, or Neil Shenvi


Elizabeth Schroeder I might suggest you read the book "White Fragility" -- it is a very useful book that may speak more directly to where you are in the process of understanding race and racism in the U.S. There is so much you wrote that wasn't directly connected to Ms. Wilkerson's book, but that is more connected to general feelings about the world today. This is a tough book for anyone who has not yet come to the realization that, indeed, we are a nation that was founded on racist principles and built on the backs of a community of people who were kidnappes and forced into slavery here. That foundation reverberates into everything we're seeing today. Peace.


message 13: by eClaghorn (new)

eClaghorn Regarding "White Fragility"; please see Shenvi and Sawyer's "Engaging Critical Theory". Fighting racism by being racist (and claiming black on white racism as impossible) is nonproductive, post-modernist, Marxist, and counter to the abolitionists and civil rights fighters like Fredrick Douglass and MLK, Jr. Again, read Jason Riley, Starkes, Sowell, etc instead.


thewanderingjew Thank you for your suggestions 😊


message 15: by thewanderingjew (last edited Nov 04, 2020 08:08PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

thewanderingjew Kram wrote: "Did you actually read this book? Because with all respect your review simply reads like a polemic based off one of those apps which summarises the key points of a book. Your ŷ profile is al..."

Yes, I read the book. It was a piece of propaganda. It should not have been one-sided only. My profile is brief because of people like you.


thewanderingjew Maria wrote: "you clearly do not know what you are actually talking about. the fact that you compare american progressives to Maduro/ socialist governments clearly shows you are the one brainwashed by right wing..."

You are clearly left-wing because you do nothing but insult the messenger.


message 17: by eClaghorn (new)

eClaghorn Another recommendation: Cynical theories by Helen Pluckrose. She's a liberal academic who blasts critical theories and the postmodern, deconstructionist types. I'm reading it now...


thewanderingjew Thank you. I have the recommendations on my list. :-)


Marilyn Guggenheim Troll bot generated.


thewanderingjew Marilyn wrote: "Troll bot generated."

I have no idea what your comment means. I am neither a troll or a bot, but someone who believes in free speech. I am entitled to my opinion without name calling from the side that doesn't believe in free speech, obviously.


message 22: by Dora (new) - rated it 2 stars

Dora Sorry for being political and feel free to delete my post, but as part Finn cannot overlook false information shared here by Maria on 9/1: 1) Finland has been in EU since 1995. 2) I wouldn't say that social democracy is a thing in here - we are parliamentary republic as are lot of other European countries. 3) AOC's tweet where she asked "is anyone archiving these Trump sychopants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future" - this Tweet would have caused outrage in Finland and lot of other countries and she probably would have been forced to resign cause of it. It's a big no-no, as it reminds to lot of Europeans Nazi Germany and Soviets with their deportations.


thewanderingjew Dora wrote: "Sorry for being political and feel free to delete my post, but as part Finn cannot overlook false information shared here by Maria on 9/1: 1) Finland has been in EU since 1995. 2) I wouldn't say th..."

Maria just seemed to sound angry because many liberals feel all other voices need to be silenced. She is apparently one of them and will say what she will to silence them.
Her attitude does remind one of the tactics of more dangerous governments. I pray for ours now.


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David Yohalem Social Democrats are not the same as Democratic Socialists, although there is some overlap in ideology. As a former member of the DSA who lived in Denmark for a decade (where I supported a party significantly to the left of the SD in those elections in which I was permitted to participate), I can only point out that the dysfunctional American 2-party system promotes neither comity nor progress. Instead it promotes power concentration, existent wealth and socio-economic stasis. If this sounds like a caste system to you, then I would completely agree.


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David Yohalem thewanderingjew wrote: "Maria wrote: "you clearly do not know what you are actually talking about. the fact that you compare american progressives to Maduro/ socialist governments clearly shows you are the one brainwashed..."

Tu quo que


thewanderingjew - you answered criticism with criticism.
Pronounced too-kwo-kwee. Literally translating as 'you too' this fallacy is also known as the appeal to hypocrisy. It is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off someone having to defend their argument, and instead shifts the focus back on to the person making the criticism.
Defend your position more clearly.


thewanderingjew David wrote: "Social Democrats are not the same as Democratic Socialists, although there is some overlap in ideology. As a former member of the DSA who lived in Denmark for a decade (where I supported a party si..."

I do not believe America has such a caste system, nor do I believe it is systemically racist. I do believe it is imperfect. Most everything is. For me, this is the greatest country in the world, although this stolen, corrupt election may change that.


message 28: by David (last edited Dec 01, 2020 05:06AM) (new) - added it

David Yohalem thewanderingjew wrote: "David wrote: "Social Democrats are not the same as Democratic Socialists, although there is some overlap in ideology. As a former member of the DSA who lived in Denmark for a decade (where I suppor..."

When the South African government was in the process of codifying apartheid they sent delegations to study the Nazis and the Americans. The South Africans modelled their system on that of the US. This strongly suggests that there was in place a system that promoted castes, which was formalized as Jim Crow.

It's apparent that only you and John Roberts believe that racism is no longer a problem in the US. Americans have never operated on an even playing field. Not only slavery, Jim Crow and lynchings support this view; redlining and lack of access to the GI Bill and its benefits have inhibited the accrual of wealth and access to the benefits of American society. Until these structural problems are addressed, the US will continue to be a caste-based society. (Ask any Boston Brahman!) The Know-nothings of the 1830s are reborn in the losers of the recent presidential election. Ignorance may well be bliss, but it is still ignorance.


thewanderingjew David wrote: "thewanderingjew wrote: "David wrote: "Social Democrats are not the same as Democratic Socialists, although there is some overlap in ideology. As a former member of the DSA who lived in Denmark for ..."

Unfortunately, and sadly for America. you are a typical liberal who uses insults and ad hominem arguments to make your point. The democrats cheated, history will prove it, the country will suffer, regardless of what you may insist is true. Referencing Apartheid and the Nazis, doesn't make it true. It is typical of the bait and switch behavior that is so common to a liberal, blaming others for your sins, doesn't absolve you.
This is not the place for this discussion. If you would like to have an honest discussion, absent insults, private message me, and I will be happy to participate in a polite conversation. I will not reply here, again. You are too confrontational, at the moment, and I do not want to engage in an angry discourse.


message 30: by David (new) - added it

David Yohalem Accusing your opponent of using ad hominem attacks is just that. I have neither need nor desire to confront you personally. However, your knowledge of history and reality are both deficient.


thewanderingjew David wrote: "Accusing your opponent of using ad hominem attacks is just that. I have neither need nor desire to confront you personally. However, your knowledge of history and reality are both deficient."

You proved my point. You don't engage in worthwhile conversation, you insult the messenger. Too bad people like you may be in charge, it will destroy this country. Perhaps you would be happier if you returned to Denmark.


message 32: by David (last edited Dec 01, 2020 07:21AM) (new) - added it

David Yohalem Hardly. I am happy to now be a member of the loyal opposition to the upcoming regime (not that my opposition to Agent Orange was disloyal - I fail to see how fascism in any way reflects American ideals).

And I now live in Spain. When asked, I tell them it's revenge for the Inquisition.

Give my best to Bebe!


thewanderingjew Be a grownup, if you want to spar with me, do it in private as I suggested. Otherwise, have a nice life. I still love America. If you are happy in Spain, or wherever you choose to live, I wish you well. I will not engage in silly insults. Stay healthy.


message 34: by David (new) - added it

David Yohalem Sorry, but we don't agree on FACTS. It's not a question of opinions. You say 'the Democrats cheated and history will prove it'. Like the Trump administration you make unsupported assertions and suggest that they are facts. In Georgia and Arizona, where the elections were run by Republicans, the votes have been certified. Your guy lost the election - not just the popular vote as he did against HRC, by the same 'overwhelming' difference that he won the electoral college 4 years ago. So take your patronizing attitude and shove it. Since you don't supply an email address and block your profile, there is, in fact, no way to continue our discussion. You have no idea how this pleases me.

Occupy any more of Palestine recently?


thewanderingjew I don't even understand your reply. There are many facts and they have been presented. Those who are not blind, deaf and dumb, or corrupted by their partisan attitudes and need for sarcastic insulting responses, fully understand them. The swamp, however, is alive and well.
I support Israel completely. If you don't, you have admitted you are probably an anti-Semite, and the reason for your angry, insulting replies to me is my name. It gives me away. I feel sorry for you.
I won't reply, so you can continue to be pleased. Talk to yourself, because your kind usually rejects intelligent conversations in favor of the sound of your own echo.


message 36: by Dav (new) - rated it 1 star

Dav Wow, nicely done.
I was most struck by the author's seeming insistence that no matter our success in making improvements, racism is here to stay and white conservatives are to blame. Liberals keeping racism alive?


thewanderingjew Maria wrote: "you clearly do not know what you are actually talking about. the fact that you compare american progressives to Maduro/ socialist governments clearly shows you are the one brainwashed by right wing..."

You are clearly biased toward socialism and identity politics which will destroy America.


thewanderingjew Susan wrote: "Such a ridiculous review - adds weight to Wilkerson’s thesis."

Actually, my review adds weight to free speech, something that the left is trying to deny. Hitler’s theory was that repeating a lie often enough would give it truth, you seem to be attempting to prove that point of view.


message 39: by Emily (new) - rated it 1 star

Emily This is so very good of a review. Love it. Thank you for giving form to my thoughts and reactions. This could have been such a good platform for shedding light on historical wrongs and happenings but instead is one of the most slanted opinion pieces I’ve ever seen. It in no way gives an objective perspective and is so disappointing that there are many that will take this for truth.


message 40: by CM (new)

CM A lot of words to say, "I'm racist".


thewanderingjew At least you recognize that you are a racist and can work on fixing yourself. I do not need you to make up a story about me because you disagree with me. So far, this is still a free country.


Marianne Apparently, you are unaware that the Democrats in the South at the time of slavery and emancipation were the right wing, politically, and the Republicans, the party of Abe Lincoln were the liberals. The platforms pretty much reversed over time.


message 43: by thewanderingjew (last edited Feb 04, 2021 11:17AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

thewanderingjew Marianne wrote: "Apparently, you are unaware that the Democrats in the South at the time of slavery and emancipation were the right wing, politically, and the Republicans, the party of Abe Lincoln were the liberals..."

Actually, I am well aware of all the history and stand by my review. The book is still one-sided.


BubblesGigi I couldn’t have said this any better thewanderingjew, accurate review I feel. No wonder our world isn’t kinder.


message 45: by Mike (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mike LOL. A review straight from Breitbart, and cut-n-pasted on Parler.


message 46: by Hilary (new)

Hilary yikes!!!


thewanderingjew Mike wrote: "LOL. A review straight from Breitbart, and cut-n-pasted on Parler."
Excuse me, I wrote this review. If it is on Breitbart, it was plagiarized or you are a typical liberal making stuff up! Shame on you


message 48: by Mike (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mike I was simply making the obvious point that your post represents the kind of racist drivel I'd expect to read on Breitbart or Parler. But kudos to you for wearing that white hood proudly, Proud Boy.


thewanderingjew Mike wrote: "I was simply making the obvious point that your post represents the kind of racist drivel I'd expect to read on Breitbart or Parler. But kudos to you for wearing that white hood proudly, Proud Boy."

I am not wearing a white hood and I do not support the Proud Boys, but you are entitled to having an opinion about someone you do not know, someone who simply wrote an honest appraisal of a one-sided book with a deliberate intent to trash one side and elevate the other, an opinion you are entitled to disagree with. I worked in special service schools by request, not because I was forced to, and I did not receive hazard pay or have free periods. It was a long time ago. So don't presume to know my heart.


message 50: by Mike (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mike LOL. Okay. Sure.


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