ŷ

Manny's Reviews > Le Rouge et le Noir

Le Rouge et le Noir by Stendhal
Rate this book
Clear rating

by
1713956
's review

really liked it
bookshelves: french, older-women-younger-men
Read 2 times. Last read January 1, 1998.

I was taking the train from Geneva to Grenoble, one of the most beautiful routes in the world, and I was reading Le Rouge et le Noir for the second time. I hadn't picked the book because I was visiting Grenoble, it just worked out that way. I was alone in the compartment; it was one of those old-fashioned carriages which still had compartments.

At the fifth or sixth stop, the door opened, and a young woman entered carrying a lot of heavy luggage. She asked me, in French, if I'd mind helping her put it up on the rack, and I did so. She smiled and thanked me, I smiled back. She was small, dark and very pretty in a North African way. We got chatting, and quickly determined that her English was slightly worse than my French; the conversation, which initially had mixed both languages, settled down to being completely francophone. She told me that French was her second language, Berber being the first, but she sounded pretty near perfect to me.

She asked what my book was, and I showed it to her. She'd said she'd never read it. I did my best to explain, while she looked at me with her huge dark eyes. Julien gets involved with two women. Madame de Rênal is kind and gentle, and she truly loves him, but he is forced by circumstances to leave her. He then later falls in love with Mathilde. I remember that I described her as bizarre et cruelle, and added that she reminded me of someone I had once loved. She nodded; she had had a similar experience. I apologised for my very insufficient command of French. Vous trouvez les mots, she replied. I have always treasured this compliment. Usually I am inarticulate in French, but just then I was indeed able to find words.

We reached the end shortly before the train got to Grenoble. I helped her take her several suitcases out onto the platform. We said goodbye French style, with a kiss on each cheek. She seemed a little surprised that I made no attempt to get her contact details. We had really got on remarkably well, but it had been so perfect that I was sure anything else would just spoil it.

I never saw her again, but every time I think of Le Rouge et le Noir I think of her.
848 likes · flag

Sign into ŷ to see if any of your friends have read Le Rouge et le Noir.
Sign In »

Reading Progress

Finished Reading
Started Reading
January 1, 1998 – Finished Reading
November 25, 2008 – Shelved
December 5, 2008 – Shelved as: french
October 8, 2010 – Shelved as: older-women-younger-men

Comments Showing 1-50 of 78 (78 new)


message 1: by Eric_W (new) - added it

Eric_W Funny you should mention that. I have heard that some folks consider Ayn Rand's Roark as patterned after Julien. Crap, now I have another book to read.


message 2: by Kristi (new)

Kristi  Siegel Very nice and very romantic, Manny.


Manny Thank you Ellen! In romance as in so many other things, less is often more. This was a minimalist romance, which I guess is what made it so perfect.

I'm trying to figure out if Stendhal would have approved. Just started reading his memoirs, which is what reminded me of this incident...


message 4: by Hazel (new) - added it

Hazel Nicely handled, Manny, (both the recollection and the original encounter). Bet she remembers you. :-)


notgettingenough May I echo the others. Very sweet.


message 6: by Moira (new) - added it

Moira Aww. It's like the zipless read! Very sweet.


message 7: by Moira (new) - added it

Moira Eric_W wrote: "I have heard that some folks consider Ayn Rand's Roark as patterned after Julien"

....WHUT


Manny Moira wrote: "Aww. It's like the zipless read! Very sweet."

Erica Jong meets Stendhal! I'm sure they would both approve :)


message 9: by Bu (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bu A crossroad of possibilities.


Manny Yes, that is a nice way to look at it :)


message 11: by John (new) - rated it 5 stars

John Very nice story. Do you write any yourself? I have to say that that is probably the first time I have been supremely absorbed in a ŷ book review.


Kunal Manny, a pretty girl is just that: pretty. What do you mean by "very pretty in a North African way."??


Manny Well, I don't know. I'm just saying that she was very pretty and she looked typically North African, which isn't that common a look in Switzerland...


Steve Pimentil Very good, Manny. I loved Stendhal when I was a romantic 20 year-old. You almost make me want to re-read him, but I know I would not feel the same now, and I prefer to preserve the memory untarnished. I was reminded of Everett Sloan in Citizen Kane talking about the girl on the ferry. Check out the 28 second clip on youtube.


Manny Thank you, what a flattering association of images! That is one of my all-time favorite movie scenes.


message 16: by Bahaeddine (new) - added it

Bahaeddine Ait ouade Sweet story, i wish you got here contact tough. By the way i m berber too , and english is my fourth langage. For the guy asking "very pretty in a North African way.", here is a simple google research :)


Manny Thank you Bahaeddine, and you write well in your fourth language! I have still never managed to visit Africa, alas...


message 18: by Bahaeddine (new) - added it

Bahaeddine Ait ouade Well now that you mentioned it, its her*. You're welcome anytime :)


Manny I shall consider your kind offer! You are in Casablanca?


message 20: by Bahaeddine (new) - added it

Bahaeddine Ait ouade Agadir actually, but I ll start an internship near Taroudant next week, it ll end mid july. You re welcome again


message 21: by Pamela (new)

Pamela Pickering What a wonderful review. I love how you captured the atmosphere while you were reading. For a brief moment I was transported to Switzerland by a totally different method other than reading a book itself. It was great change of pace from other reviews.


Manny Thank you Pamela!


message 23: by Roohi (new)

Roohi Batool I would like to read this soon


Manny It is very good.


message 25: by David (new)

David Gustafson Brilliant!


Manny Thank you David!


message 27: by Ivonne (new)

Ivonne Rovira Manny wrote: "Thank you Ellen! In romance as in so many other things, less is often more. This was a minimalist romance, which I guess is what made it so perfect.

I'm trying to figure out if Stendhal would have..."


This seems a reprise of Richard Linklater's film Before Sunrise, except literary.


Manny I suppose it was a kind of minimalist literary version! You have to learn to look at things the right way to understand what a romantic life you're leading.


Manny Denis wrote: "LOAN OFFER BETWEEN PARTICULAR
Here is my e-mail : [email protected]
Hello dear friend.
I am a private lender, so I offer loans ranging from 9,000$ to 800,000,000$
So if you are in urgent need for credit, please contact me via email to receive a private loan. So dear customer, specify the amount many of your application and you receive the loan terms.
Here is my e-mail : [email protected] "


Marius, that's so romantic. I can absolutely understand why you chose this review thread to post your entrancing offer.


Frumenty Not strictly a review, but a nice little read. Do you know the Guy de Maupassant story Idylle? It's about two strangers who meet on a train. I think you would enjoy it.


Manny Thank you for the tip, Frumenty! I will look out for Idylle.


message 32: by Amir (new)

Amir pretty small gifts of life... brilliant! :)


Manny Thank you Amir, it is indeed these small gifts that make life enjoyable!


Manny I am not sure that would be in keeping with the ethos of this book...


message 35: by Steven (new)

Steven Godin What a train journey you describe!, my faith in public transport has been rejuvenated!


Manny Full disclosure: I have published several joint papers with an employee of the Swiss railway company.

[This is actually true]


message 37: by [deleted user] (new)

Manny wrote: "Full disclosure: I have published several joint papers with an employee of the Swiss railway company.

[This is actually true]"


LOL. Oh, man; you did it again. I fondly remember this review as well as the lines from "Citizen Kane." Thanks for ruining the sickeningly sweet compartment in my head.


message 38: by Carlos (new)

Carlos Pereyra Ah! Mon ami, Tu aurais dû baisa sa main


Manny Peut-être que tu as raison, on ne saura jamais.


Lucian Ariseanu Maybe the romance died in me a long time ago, but damn your comment is irrelevant


Agunik Martirosyan story full of tenderness


Manny :)


message 43: by [deleted user] (new)

Manny - you make me smile at the world and every little wonder that happens in its soft embrace. Thank you x


Manny ((Aw, T))


Manny Damn. I was trying for romantic, and somehow it came out looking like a mathematical formula. Why does this always happen to me?


message 46: by [deleted user] (new)

Because... "anything else would just spoil it"?;)


message 48: by Kelly (new)

Kelly “In a North African way�


Manny It's just descriptive.


Kalliope I have reread this novel recently, and I must say that my experience is different from yours, but we all have to have open minds and accept each other's views.


« previous 1
back to top