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Remember by Lisa Genova
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Review I was going to write a proper review of this book but I've forgotten what I wanted to say.
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Reading notes This is kind of a mash-up book, science and self-help. I usually dislike self-help books but this one was interesting because it wasn't going on about mnemonic training but how to make a memory in the first place (rather than forgetting) and how to optimise studying to fit in with how the brain works. I hope I remember the advice :-)

Short-term memory is stored in the hippocampus, should you treat this organ badly - too much stress bathes it in cortisol and not enough sleep are both very bad - then your short term memory is shot. But if you treat it well and still forget where your keys are it's because you didn't form the memory to begin with.

To form a memory you need to pay attention or else do something habitually. Attention and repetition are key. If you always put your keys in the same place, habituation will have formed a long-term memory, if you put them in different places all the time and have to hunt for them (my son does this) then you need to put your keys down and commit to memory (or your phone) exactly where they are rather than dumping them and moving on.

The best way of studying is to study, self test, have a nap. Repeat, endlessly. Self-testing is another form of repetition and sleep is when the hippocampus clears out and its short term memories moved out to the neurons that buzz around remembering things. The author's husband worked out a very effective way of studying, it might be worth trying.

Study, self-test, have a cup of coffee, have a 20 minute nap. The self-testing and napping both help with making the material a (more permanent) memory, and the caffeine which takes 25 minutes to process will have you bright-eyed and bushy-tailed eager and able to start studying again.

It's a good book, in part because the author is very relateable and hints at a possibly misspent youth (always a plus, one tends to think of scientists as having been nerdy), and also writes very well. It's not a 5 star book, there's not enough either depth or anecdotes, but it is good and I think that just as the author has written some 5 star books - Still Alice in the genre she invented - neurological novels, she will write some top-notch non-fiction in the future.
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March 28, 2021 – Started Reading
March 28, 2021 – Shelved
March 31, 2021 – Shelved as: 2021-read
March 31, 2021 – Shelved as: 2021-100-reviews
March 31, 2021 – Shelved as: medicine-science
March 31, 2021 – Shelved as: reviewed
March 31, 2021 – Shelved as: psycho-neurology-crime
March 31, 2021 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Théo d'Or (new)

Théo d'Or Why should I take into account a rating resulting perhaps from some who do not appreciate a classic, but appreciate a cutting-edge erotic short story ? I don't believe in ratings, just as I do not believe in the absolute good or evil.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Théodore wrote: "Why should I take into account a rating resulting perhaps from some who do not appreciate a classic, but appreciate a cutting-edge erotic short story ? ..."

How did you come to that thought?


message 3: by Théo d'Or (new)

Théo d'Or My inner voice told me. Besides, I know concrete cases of doubtful tastes. In my view, of course.


Negin Petra, I'm eager to hear your thoughts on this one. I've only read "Forget Alice'. I plan on reading her other books. I just haven't had time.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Negin wrote: "Petra, I'm eager to hear your thoughts on this one. I've only read "Forget Alice'. I plan on reading her other books. I just haven't had time."

It's really good so far. What I've got is that if you want to learn something, habituation and repetition work best rather than trying to cram like a student and remember it all in one go.


message 6: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Crazy if ratings can't be trusted, though I go more by reviews, and of people I "know".

I saw rather the opposite problem a while back: I was looking at a couple of low ratings of a new book I loved. One said he got an ARC, and when I looked at his shelves, the book in question was utterly unlike anything else he read, so hardly surprising he didn't like it. Yet I see GR friends sometimes saying they can't get ARCs they want, for books in genres they have a track record of enjoying.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Cecily wrote: " I see GR friends sometimes saying they can't get ARCs they want, for books in genres they have a track record of enjoying..."

I would imagine that the algorithms behind who gets a freebie and who doesn't are becoming ever more sophisticated. This is major marketing. Some people, like Suzanne Collins on her last book, or more likely her publicity dept. just went scattershot with 40,000 advance reviews and ratings, judging by the names and formats of those I saw, from Indian agencies who do this sort of thing very cheaply and probably use bots too.


message 8: by Mark (new)

Mark  Porton Brilliant review Petra, books like this I love - nice snippets of information, like the tip for studying (not as though I do that much anymore) but another expert opinion stating the importance of sleep.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Mark wrote: "Brilliant review Petra, books like this I love - nice snippets of information, like the tip for studying (not as though I do that much anymore) ..."

Thank you. I sometimes like to write about what interested me most, or what I learned from a book than a full-on book review. Of course sometimes I write about nothing to do with the book but just about my love life (or lack of it) and must cause some of my friends to sigh deeply and move on.


Adina (notifications back, log out, clear cache) Sounds an interesting topic. I also usually hate self-help books.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Adina wrote: "Sounds an interesting topic. I also usually hate self-help books."

It's changed my life, albeit in a small way. When I put down my keys I say to myself, "I'm putting my keys down on the table" and so far I haven't forgotten them, as opposed to just putting the keys down and not being able to find them. Just a simple thing like that, taking conscious notice, has worked. Now the issue is to remember to take notice, lol. Haven't found how to do that yet.


Adina (notifications back, log out, clear cache) Petra-X is bored with reading & not having a life wrote: "Adina wrote: "Sounds an interesting topic. I also usually hate self-help books."

It's changed my life, albeit in a small way. When I put down my keys I say to myself, "I'm putting my keys down on ..."
Wow, i am going to try that with my phone.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Adina wrote: "It's changed my life, albeit in a small way. When I put down my keys I say to myself, "I'm putting my keys down on ..." Wow, i am going to try that with my phone...."

It's a matter of committing something to memory, to actively make a memory. Otherwise the hippocampus apparently just doesn't always bother.


Cheri This was a little different than I expected, but I really loved that there was a more easy-breezy tone to this for those who fear that forgetting where they put their keys is a sign of Alzheimer's. A slightly more 'entertaining' take on why we are all subject to momentary lapses in memory and how to improve that. Terrific review, Petra.


message 15: by Petra nearly in Melbourne (last edited Jun 22, 2021 09:06AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Petra nearly in Melbourne Cheri wrote: "This was a little different than I expected, but I really loved that there was a more easy-breezy tone to this for those who fear that forgetting where they put their keys is a sign of Alzheimer's...."

Thank you. Before it was called Alzheimer's it was called senility, being old and doolally and all sorts of things, and it was fairly expected to happen. I think Alzheimer's is going to be like that, we will almost all get it if we live long enough. From research I have been reading in the last week, senility is aging and is one thing, forgetting and getting doddery, but Alzheimer's is a definite disease and diseases can be prevented, treated and perhaps even cured. One day.


Kristine Excellent Review Petra. You are correct, I did get an Free Copy. This practice does make me wonder. I read the entire book and really found it fascinating. I also don’t find self-help books particularly helpful, but didn’t think that was the biggest part of the book. The advice given was also very practical. If you want to live well, you need to take care of yourself. That said as I’m up with insomnia. Yes, sleep is important. I definitely give my long opinions on books and thought this one deserved 4*.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Kristine wrote: "The advice given was also very practical. If you want to live well, you need to take care of yourself...."

Very true, but we all know that. For our differing reasons we both gave the book 4 stars.


Kristine Petra, true, I know the advice was obvious, but I liked that. Ever serious person says the same. Now if only I had a magic want to pull my away to sleep, but it’s not a fairy tale. There is no magic cures or diets. Mostly, just found the study of the way our brain works is fascinating . Enjoy your travels in the US. Imagine you will know where you keys are.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Kristine wrote: "There is no magic cures or diets. ..."

A friend, very well-off, said that the best diet was having your own private chef, it was up to them to provide fabulous calorie-counted food. Bit out my budget though.


Numidica Petra, having dealt with a mother who entered Alzhwimers / senility or whatever at about age 88 (she is now 95), I felt the truthiness of this book. Other than trying to eat a more plant based diet and exercise more, I'm not sure what else to do.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Numidica wrote: "Petra, having dealt with a mother who entered Alzhwimers / senility or whatever at about age 88 (she is now 95), I felt the truthiness of this book. Other than trying to eat a more plant based diet..."

It's in my family too. Sad isn't it?


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Pam Thanks, I like your review.


message 23: by Luffy Sempai (new)

Luffy Sempai I'm studying for an exams myself. Thanks for the advice that you so helpfully extracted from the book. My number 1 rule during exams is to stop writing 30 minutes before the end. I've so far got away with it. Excellent review!


Negin Fabulous review, Petra. So far, I've only read one book by her and loved it - "Still Alice." I plan on reading more.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Pam wrote: "Thanks, I like your review."

Thank you :-)


Petra nearly in Melbourne Luffy wrote: "My number 1 rule during exams is to stop writing 30 minutes before the end. I've so far got away with it...."

Why? For rechecking or so you don't get carried away?


Petra nearly in Melbourne Negin wrote: "Fabulous review, Petra. So far, I've only read one book by her and loved it - "Still Alice." I plan on reading more."

Still Alice, the first of Genova's books, is by far the best of her fiction. This is not fiction and almost as good.


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Luffy Sempai Petra kissed a prince and he turned into a frog wrote: "Luffy wrote: "My number 1 rule during exams is to stop writing 30 minutes before the end. I've so far got away with it...."

Why? For rechecking or so you don't get carried away?"


EDIT : I stop writing, but also leave the premises early.

No, it's just that I don't want to squirm. I enjoy the initial adrenaline rush, but don't want to hear the 'pens down' shout. I feel better about myself and it works so I guess the syllabus is not that demanding. Leaving early during an exam can be empowering in its own small way.


message 29: by Chris (new) - added it

Chris Great review. One of my favorite authors.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Luffy wrote: "Leaving early during an exam can be empowering in its own small way..."

I can imagine! I didn't think of that before because I had never sat an exam where I was allowed to leave the room early.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Chris wrote: "Great review. One of my favorite authors."

Thank you. She is a really good writer.


message 32: by Luffy Sempai (new)

Luffy Sempai Petra kissed a prince and he turned into a frog wrote: "Luffy wrote: "Leaving early during an exam can be empowering in its own small way..."

I can imagine! I didn't think of that before because I had never sat an exam where I was allowed to leave the ..."


Thanks for the little chat. It's been very pleasant. Catch you another day (trying not to say 'see you').


message 33: by Carmen (new)

Carmen Great review.


message 34: by Lisa (last edited Nov 28, 2021 10:31AM) (new) - added it

Lisa Vegan Great review, Petra. I might add it. It seems interesting to me.

"too much stress bathes it in cortisol and not enough sleep are both very bad" In that case I should be completely nonfunctional and have zero short term memory. *sigh*

ETA: Already on my to read shelf. This probably belongs in the long term memory department.


message 35: by Ann (new)

Ann Great review, Petra. Very interesting approach to studying. I definitely took the opposite approach as a student and crammed everything the night before.


Petra nearly in Melbourne Carmen wrote: "Great review."

Thank you.


message 37: by Petra nearly in Melbourne (last edited Nov 28, 2021 01:34PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Petra nearly in Melbourne Lisa wrote: " I might add it. It seems interesting to me....."

That was a really funny two-part comment, Lisa. :-) I think you would enjoy the book,


Petra nearly in Melbourne Ann wrote: "Great review, Petra. Very interesting approach to studying. I definitely took the opposite approach as a student and crammed everything the night before."

Didn't we all? :-) But the method might be worth trying, certainly it sounds quite good - study, self-test, coffee and a short nap.


Negin Petra kissed a frog and he turned into a toad wrote: "Negin wrote: "Fabulous review, Petra. So far, I've only read one book by her and loved it - "Still Alice." I plan on reading more."

Still Alice, the first of Genova's books, is by f..."

That's the one that I read and loved.


message 40: by Debbie (last edited Nov 29, 2021 04:19PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Debbie Loved your review! For once, we read the same book, lol! The book fucked me up, though. I will forever be worried about not sleeping or exercising enough, and about the evils of stress. (Though Genova does have me trying harder.) Really liked this book, though. It’s a good read for us non-science-y types.

Just read your comment about paying attention to where you put your keys—makes me realize I should think of the good things the book taught me (since reliving good moments reinforces the memory). I am noticing when I put down my keys and glasses now, and wow does that help!


Petra nearly in Melbourne Debbie wrote: " I am noticing when I put down my keys and glasses now, and wow does that help..."

I'm trying to do that too, it really does make a difference, that's what I got from the book.


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