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I am reading the Ginsburg translation. Not sure how it stacks up against the others, but I am enjoying the style, for sure!

I am so glad to hear that, Arthur. Now I'm looking forward to Ginsburg even more!

Which translation among B&O and P&V is better according to you? I am planning to read it soon but want to have good 'first' impression in order to move to any other versions.

I preferred B&O, Garima. I still had fun reading P&V, but there was such a wonderful rhythm and style to B&O. I felt like it carried me along.

Well Thanks Kris!! That is the preferred version of many as I gathered from other internet sources too.

It also has a wonderful afterword -- very enlightening, beautifully written and researched.

Fool am I. I judge books by the cover now rather than agonize over translations as I used to. :) So, I will be reading the pretty red hardback published in the Everyman Contemporary series. I'm not even sure who translated it. The version may be censored. It may not be the preferred translation. But I trust the rest of you to point out what I will miss. It sounds like a marvelous story, and I am in the mood for pretty looking books rather than the inevitable agony and indecision over a translation of a language of which I do not speak a word. Whether I trust my translator or whether I trust reviewers (many of whom don't even speak the language)of translators. I will have to trust somebody. Of course, I trust you Kris. You are scrupulously fair and measured in all your comments. It's what love most about you. You stay so positive.

Thanks so much Steve - what a lovely thing to say. It means a lot.

I think you have the Glenny translation. A few other group members are reading it too, and I bought a used paperback to compare with the other translations. I think our group members are so wonderful that you'll have any gaps filled in. And TM&M is so much fun to read that you'd have fun, no matter which edition you read.

I wish I wasn't fighting through required articles for my classes right now, but I hope to finish up M&M sometime soon... maybe? I especially want to hear in the thread about the differences in translation from you. (You know, not the crapola, google translate foolery). This is such a cool project you took on. I hope to do that someday with a famous work in multiple translations.

Stephen M wrote: "I wish I wasn't fighting through required articles for my classes right now, but I hope to finish up M&M sometime soon... maybe? I especially want to hear in the thread about the differences in tra..."

I will be the first in line the buy the book when you publish it! I'm fascinated by translation issues now. On Aloha's recommendation, I just bought Le Ton Beau De Marot: In Praise Of The Music Of Language, and I;m looking forward to reading it ... someday....

I think TM&M will be going on for a while. We're having a lot of lively discussions and setting up auxiliary reads, and some members are working through multiple translations. BTW, which translation are you reading? I'm about to start Ginsburg. So far B&O is hands down my favorite, although I didn't have as visceral a reaction against P&V as some people did.

Kris, my P&V came before Ginsburg and I was wondering if I should wait for it or move on to P&V. Any suggestions?

Mikki, I read B&O, P&V, and am now working on Ginsburg. I like have Ginsburg last -- I feel like I have a better sense of the censored sections after reading over the novel twice already.

You can always shift when Ginsburg comes, if you decide you'd prefer. :)

Makes sense! I'll start the P&V tomorrow and maybe I'll see you back at the thread tonight in order to discuss the last two sections?

Sounds good! I'll be there. :)

Kris, you have 3 three translations? I haven't read this book yet. I salute you my friend.

Thanks, K.D.! I have a fourth one too, but I don't think I'll be reading it this go-round. :)

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Kris: I will also have to give Bulgakov's very special brand of humor a 2nd try but failed in my initial encounter. That said, once when I was on a Russian boat traveling the various waterways separating St. Petersburg & Moscow I was part of a meet & greet session with Russians & the 3 native English-speaking travelers on board. The Russian women seemed to love this book (having of course read it in Russian) but none of the Russian men seemed to say they could get through the novel. However, I don't think any of us had the edition with the cat on the cover. *Lastly, I heard that Penn discontinued its PhD program in Russian or Balto-Slavic Philology, something that very much distressed a good friend who got his PhD at Penn many years ago.