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Women
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“I am more or less a failed drizzling shit with absolutely nothing to offer.�
Ah, honesty goes a long way, doesn’t it?! So does humor. And this book made me laugh out loud � a lot! I went into this open-minded, but prepared to get more than a little pissed off with Henry Chinaski. You see, I’ve been reading a lot of, well, ‘feminist� sorts of books of late. It made my end of year reading look a bit lopsided. This led me one day to google “the most misogynistic books of all time�! Ha! I would figure it all out once and for all, right? Wrong! The thing is, I never got angry with Henry, or Hank, as I expected. Not that I’d invite him over for a drink anytime soon though either. I’d hate to become one of his research projects. This guy would eat me alive.
“I had to taste women in order to really know them, to get inside of them. I could invent men in my mind because I was one, but women, for me, were almost impossible to fictionalize without first knowing them.�
No doubt he’s a sloppy, miserable, coarse, drunken, horny son of a bitch. And no one knows this better than Hank himself. But the women seem to fall from the sky, landing right at his feet, inserting themselves directly into his life. He, in turn, inserts himself directly between their legs. His sexual conquests are frequent, numerous, and, on his luckiest days, simultaneous. And yet, I continued to laugh. The writing was clever. Until I got bored. You see, after a while, it felt a bit like that movie Groundhog Day. Repetitive. Most of the variation was in the woman’s name, the color of her hair, and whether or not Hank could manage to follow through with his amorous devotion to the sexual act. It was never a question of whether he had a drink or not, but rather how much alcohol he happened to have consumed on any given day.
“That’s the problem with drinking, I thought, as I poured myself a drink. If something bad happens you drink in an attempt to forget; if something good happens you drink in order to celebrate; and if nothing happens you drink to make something happen.�
So, in order to justify my reading of this during the holidays of all times, I needed to conclude whether or not I found this to be a misogynistic tale. After all, I deliberately set out to read such a thing to begin with. In good conscience, I don’t think I can call it that at all. Hank is not a misogynist. He hates a lot of people, and himself most of all, I believe. I don’t think he much cares for life. He is disillusioned with everything. He tries to make sense of things through his writing.
“People just blindly grabbed at whatever there was: communism, health foods, zen, surfing, ballet, hypnotism, group encounters, orgies, biking, herbs, Catholicism, weight-lifting, travel, withdrawal, vegetarianism, India, painting, writing, sculpting, composing, conducting, backpacking, yoga, copulating, gambling, drinking, hanging around, frozen yogurt, Beethoven, Bach, Buddha, Christ, TM, H, carrot juice, suicide, handmade suits, jet travel, New York City, and then it all evaporated and fell apart. People had to find things to do while waiting to die. I guess it was nice to have a choice.�
The thing is, I don’t know how to rate this book. Most certainly it’s not a life-altering novel. But laughter is a precious commodity, especially the unexpected variety, and it absolutely delivered there. And I have to hand it to Charles Bukowski. He managed to pull one over on this reader, at least. But the truth is, I got a bit weary after a while. Since my birthday wish never came true, I’m going to have to go with 3.5 stars rounded down to 3. It doesn’t quite compare to other books I’ve stamped with all 4.
“I was a writer. I was a dirty old man. Human relationships didn’t work anyhow. Only the first two weeks had any zing, then the participants lost their interest. Masks dropped away and real people began to appear: cranks, imbeciles, the demented, the vengeful, sadists, killers.�
Ah, honesty goes a long way, doesn’t it?! So does humor. And this book made me laugh out loud � a lot! I went into this open-minded, but prepared to get more than a little pissed off with Henry Chinaski. You see, I’ve been reading a lot of, well, ‘feminist� sorts of books of late. It made my end of year reading look a bit lopsided. This led me one day to google “the most misogynistic books of all time�! Ha! I would figure it all out once and for all, right? Wrong! The thing is, I never got angry with Henry, or Hank, as I expected. Not that I’d invite him over for a drink anytime soon though either. I’d hate to become one of his research projects. This guy would eat me alive.
“I had to taste women in order to really know them, to get inside of them. I could invent men in my mind because I was one, but women, for me, were almost impossible to fictionalize without first knowing them.�
No doubt he’s a sloppy, miserable, coarse, drunken, horny son of a bitch. And no one knows this better than Hank himself. But the women seem to fall from the sky, landing right at his feet, inserting themselves directly into his life. He, in turn, inserts himself directly between their legs. His sexual conquests are frequent, numerous, and, on his luckiest days, simultaneous. And yet, I continued to laugh. The writing was clever. Until I got bored. You see, after a while, it felt a bit like that movie Groundhog Day. Repetitive. Most of the variation was in the woman’s name, the color of her hair, and whether or not Hank could manage to follow through with his amorous devotion to the sexual act. It was never a question of whether he had a drink or not, but rather how much alcohol he happened to have consumed on any given day.
“That’s the problem with drinking, I thought, as I poured myself a drink. If something bad happens you drink in an attempt to forget; if something good happens you drink in order to celebrate; and if nothing happens you drink to make something happen.�
So, in order to justify my reading of this during the holidays of all times, I needed to conclude whether or not I found this to be a misogynistic tale. After all, I deliberately set out to read such a thing to begin with. In good conscience, I don’t think I can call it that at all. Hank is not a misogynist. He hates a lot of people, and himself most of all, I believe. I don’t think he much cares for life. He is disillusioned with everything. He tries to make sense of things through his writing.
“People just blindly grabbed at whatever there was: communism, health foods, zen, surfing, ballet, hypnotism, group encounters, orgies, biking, herbs, Catholicism, weight-lifting, travel, withdrawal, vegetarianism, India, painting, writing, sculpting, composing, conducting, backpacking, yoga, copulating, gambling, drinking, hanging around, frozen yogurt, Beethoven, Bach, Buddha, Christ, TM, H, carrot juice, suicide, handmade suits, jet travel, New York City, and then it all evaporated and fell apart. People had to find things to do while waiting to die. I guess it was nice to have a choice.�
The thing is, I don’t know how to rate this book. Most certainly it’s not a life-altering novel. But laughter is a precious commodity, especially the unexpected variety, and it absolutely delivered there. And I have to hand it to Charles Bukowski. He managed to pull one over on this reader, at least. But the truth is, I got a bit weary after a while. Since my birthday wish never came true, I’m going to have to go with 3.5 stars rounded down to 3. It doesn’t quite compare to other books I’ve stamped with all 4.
“I was a writer. I was a dirty old man. Human relationships didn’t work anyhow. Only the first two weeks had any zing, then the participants lost their interest. Masks dropped away and real people began to appear: cranks, imbeciles, the demented, the vengeful, sadists, killers.�
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Reading Progress
December 26, 2021
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Started Reading
December 26, 2021
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December 26, 2021
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contemporary-literary
December 27, 2021
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20.0%
""I was glad I wasn't in love, that I wasn't happy with the world. I like being at odds with everything. People in love often become edgy, dangerous. They lose their sense of perspective. They lose their sense of humor. They become nervous, psychotic bores. They even become killers."
Balancing out a year weighing a bit on the feminist side by reading Charles Bukowski. I didn't expect to laugh so much!"
Balancing out a year weighing a bit on the feminist side by reading Charles Bukowski. I didn't expect to laugh so much!"
December 29, 2021
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56.0%
"I never pump up my vulgarity. I wait for it to arrive on its own terms.
I'm still laughing once in a while, but this is starting to put me to sleep. It's getting old now. I'm holding out, waiting for some big moment to happen? Does it go anywhere from here, friends?!"
I'm still laughing once in a while, but this is starting to put me to sleep. It's getting old now. I'm holding out, waiting for some big moment to happen? Does it go anywhere from here, friends?!"
December 30, 2021
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Finished Reading
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Thank you, HBalikov! Happy to be of service :D

Thank you, Ian! I suspect he has a signature style :D I'd like to try another one of these days.

The thing is, Jola, so much of this was a much needed break from all the nonsense going on around us - I just had to sit back and relax (and chuckle!) I'm definitely curious about his writing and want to see if something else has more staying power for me than this one. Thanks very much for your kind comment!

Lisa, I actually saw some of his poetry in a little bookstore a couple of days after I started reading this. I was pretty tempted. I think I might give it a try sometime!


Lisa, I actually saw some of his poetry in a little bookstore..."
A lot of his poetry is on the internet. You could get a sampling to see what you think before picking up a collection. There's quite a variety to peruse.

I should have written down some of the other ideas on those lists, Daniel :D For my own future research purposes ;) I did get some pleasure out of reading this - it helped lighten the tone of the holiday season, believe it or not!

Be careful, mister, or you'll have a permanent bellyache from all that laughing ;)

Well, thank you for your thoughtful comment, Bonnie! I do love your summary of Bukowski - perfect! It seems I have some options for my next one - now Post Office is in the running as well. I'd love to hear what you think of this one :)

Yes, Anne, it is supposed to be pretty autobiographical in nature. I can understand your aversion to reading it. There's actually not a soul I would safely recommend this to!


Thanks so much, Jenna! It was impossible not to laugh! :D Besides, most of these women were much like groupies and knew what they were getting themselves into ;) After a while, I started daydreaming about my next book, thus the 3 stars.

Haha! Tatevik, this could be very unpalatable for many readers any time of the year. Somehow, it happened to work for me! :D

ZT, this is raunchy and irreverent. Which made it all the more amusing somehow :D I've since moved on to some very different sorts of books ;) Thank you!

Great idea, Lisa! Thank you! :)






Now, I'll have to say that I'm really, really looking forward to the moment where you're going to come across Bukowsky in hell.
Oh yeah, that's going to be funny.


Thank you, Ned! Which one do you consider his most authentic?

Besides reading, laughing is one of my favorite pastimes, Jan! :D Thanks a bunch!

Definitely against the grain, Kalliope! Be prepared if you ever read this - not for the squeamish :D


I'm starting to get the idea that Post Office would be the next option for me, Richard. I wouldn't say women shouldn't read this. It all depends on taste, and often it's fun to read outside our usual comfort zones anyway. Though I wouldn't consider recommending this to my mother, for example ;D I would perhaps say "for a certain type of reader only." ;)
Thank you for the recommendation of Strindberg's work. I'll investigate it a bit further!

Candi, Post Office is his first novel and it is a great place to start. Also, I second what you said, I am a woman, a feminist, and a reader, and I really kind of love Bukowski. My 22 year old son also loves Bukowski, and I am guessing the way we read his work differs because he is a 22 year old man and I am a (mumblemumble) year old woman, and also for other reasons.

I suppose that's true, Jerry :D I did put on the boxing gloves, but was able to pack them quietly away ;) I know what you mean about those sucker punches though! They really smart for a while afterwards.

Justin, you really must read him and report back to us. I don't think this will land on your one-handed shelf (ha!!), but definitely on your LOL shelf ;)


Now, I'll have to ..."
Well, Pedro, I'm afraid my rating is turning people off, despite the fact I had a fun time with it. The writing really is quite good. It was so close to being a 4... but Charles Bukowski won't give a damn. He's having a blast in hell! When we do meet up there, he may call me some choice words just for fun though, I bet ;D I plan to distract him with a bottle of straight bourbon. Forget the cream.
I had added this to read years ago after loving "Ham on Rye"....
but keep forgetting to get back to a few laughs and cringes with Bukows..."
Hi Elyse! This is my first time with Bukowski, and I'm very entertained by it! I honestly thought I'd be a bit more angry with it - but that's not the case at all :D Cringes and laughs - yes! Thank you for the well wishes, and I hope that you have a brighter New Year than the past year!