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Ice by Anna Kavan
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The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel.

This is the opening line of William Gibson's first novel, Neuromancer. It also sums up how I felt as I read Anna Kavan's Ice. I felt like I was watching an old analog television tuned to snow.

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If you look at it long enough it's kinda mesmerizing, isn't it? You begin to see patterns, things coalescing and breaking up. Kind of like the shades in this novel. I can't rightly call them characters as they never felt that way to me. They were empty vessels waiting for someone to bring life to them. Only in the final chapter did this happen. On its own, the final chapter would make a nice standalone short story. But everything that preceded it was a wash of -- nothing. My eyes scanned the pages, but there was nothing there. I felt nothing. Not cold, warm, horror, excitement. It was random scenes strung together by random events. Lots of "suddenly"s, like an old ghost story. Or Marsha Brady. "Something suddenly came up." But the something never led to anything, and in the end the something felt like -- nothing at all.

There were moments when, as I read, I could tell that I was supposed to feel horror. There were words like "blood" or "slap" or phrases like "stacked two feet high." But when these words are placed besides empty vessels, the vessel still remains -- empty.

I read this with my buddy Mary and about halfway through I asked how she was liking it. This is a short book and I knew that if by the halfway mark it wasn't clicking, it probably wasn't going to. Mary enlightened me. She told me how she saw the events arranged, and I gotta admit, if Mary wrote the story the way she described it to me, I think I would have enjoyed it. Not enough to be mind-blown, but at least 3-stars worth. On its own, the novel to me is worth a single star. It's that final chapter that raises it to two.

In the final chapter I finally saw a semblance of characterization. All of a sudden there was something worth paying attention to. The characters spoke, they spoke in a meaningful way. I found myself slowing down to take everything in. It was almost like enjoyment. Would the chapter itself stand toe to toe with the best short stories in the world? Heck no. Was it worth reading? Yeah, I think so. But by the same token, everything before it was worth skipping.

There were glimpses, in random words and scenes, that made it seem like Kavan was on to something. The book was published originally in 1967. Vietnam. The threat of the Cold War. Nuclear annihilation. For a sentence at a time, spread maybe fifteen to twenty pages apart, I had an inkling there was something going on. A comment on the state of the world at that time. In many ways, I feel that sixties and the present day are mirroring each other in a sadistic sort of way. That should have made this a very interesting read. But by the next sentence the scene was changed, some random happening was happening, an empty vessel moved from here to there. The new place was just as staticy and unclear as the previous one. And -- nothing.

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Reading Progress

November 28, 2012 – Shelved
February 19, 2013 – Shelved as: bleak-ass-ice-box
June 10, 2013 – Started Reading
June 11, 2013 –
13.0%
June 11, 2013 –
21.0% ". . ."
June 13, 2013 –
53.0%
June 18, 2013 – Finished Reading

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Mark Finished the first chap last night. At the moment it seems much more telling than showing. The characters, if you can call em that, are these vacant shades. Hoping they'll see some fleshing out. Right now, I'm wondering about the hype we saw a few months ago. It is just the first chap, but ehhhh


message 2: by Kasia (new)

Kasia Ha, I smell a Third Floor aka The Atti situation going on :p

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message 3: by Kasia (new)

Kasia * attic damn it


Mark I believe you're right!


message 5: by Kasia (new)

Kasia Really? That sucks , maybe my Attic dude edited it? That woul explain the poopiness


Mark If not for it being published in the late 60s, I'd say you were dead on


message 7: by Kasia (new)

Kasia ha!!!


message 8: by Kasia (new)

Kasia you got me there Mr!


Mark It also makes ghosties appear in your bedroom!




message 10: by Mark (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mark :D I like that in a room swarming with malevolent spirits, it's the child that scares you most!


message 11: by Steve (new)

Steve I'm glad I read your entertaining review of this rather than the book. The TV fuzz takes me back to a bygone era, one where I might well have had a crush on Marcia Brady.


message 12: by Mark (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mark No, no, she's mine! :D Did we all have a crush on Marsha? When I was in grade school the station that carried Tom & Jerry after school began playing The Bradys as a lead-in. At first I was ticked. Then this blond goddess appeared on screen and I said, "Tom n Jerry whoooooo?"

Lots of folks liked Ice, but it just barely clicked with me. If you see it cheap, or in the library, you might thumb the short final chapter, see what cha think. Right now Jenn is reading another from Kavan and the lines she's quoted sound a heckuva lot more interesting than any I came across in Ice. Depending on her final assessment, that one might be worth trying :)

Always a lil peculiar when one that makes a big impression on most folks fails to make one on you.


message 13: by Steve (new)

Steve Mark wrote: "Always a lil peculiar when one that makes a big impression on most folks fails to make one on you."

I've had a few like that, too. If it weren't for the fact that our GR friends are above such things, I'd have suggested it was a case of them not pointing out that the emperor has no clothes. We should stick to our guns in any case, though it's natural to second-guess ourselves when we disagree strongly with the cool kid orthodoxy, isn't it?


message 14: by Mark (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mark Heck yeah! If we didn't stick to our guns, this whole thing would be a lil too high schoolish to be involved in :D


message 15: by Steve (new)

Steve Ha, good point!


message 16: by Scribble (last edited Oct 16, 2013 11:38PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Scribble Orca Maybe one of the problems is that we apply personal aesthetics and put ourselves before the book, rather than try to analyse or view the book objectively and with other readers in mind (which is a bit of a conflict since if other readers don't post their personal aesthetics etc)...I've lately been "judging" books according to the author intent (either stated or (personally) imputed) and leaving aside questions of "style" unless it's a form over content book where that becomes part of intent - the result of this approach is that it's hard to award less than five stars (but that then runs into the problem of the fact that stars are emotional and very much meview) since I rarely read books which don't achieve author intent, and my pickiness regarding diction and style would mean I find fault with most books (and that's not fair either to the book or other readers since that's my own peculiarity)...so perhaps that might go some way towards accounting for differences of, well, opinion? Since we really have very little objective criteria (and even if we do, we're probably kidding ourselves).

In fact, I'm thinking I'm just going to stop awarding stars at all, but then that would have the opposite problem...catch 22?


message 17: by Mark (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mark Hey, Scribble, thanks for your input! Actually, that's the way I try to approach every book I read, as though I'm looking for the author's intent and then judging, from my perspective, how close he or she came to reaching the goal. Some books I do this with more so than others. Horror and thriller novels, the main objective is to entertain. With literary books, I tend to judge more critically, since the entertainment is often secondary to some loftier goal.

Right now, I'm working through Proust's first volume. When I began, I really enjoyed the "comfy" scenes he projected. By page 100, I began to grow tired of his longwinded descriptions. I understood what he was going for, but like I felt with Infinite Jest, I found the result tedious. It's likely my personal taste that prevents me from loving-loving-loving either of these. To me, the perfect books are the ones in which the author of the book is nowhere to be found. They create characters and let them do the storytelling, scene-creating. With Jest, DFW could not help throw himself into nearly all the scenes. Not literally, of course, but figuratively the entire book screamed "I was written by DFW."

With Ice, it felt like Kavan had no story. It felt to me like she was making up every scene as she went. I like "haphazard," when I understand that's what the author is going for, but I like a character I can follow and understand. I never felt like there were any characters in this one. There were kinda-sorta events, but none of them seemed connected. By the end of the first chapter, I had a feeling Ice was not one I was going to like. I tried to be objective, but it seems impossible for humans not to bring their own idiosyncrasies to whatever they do.

That's a good idea re: stars. Way too much importance is put on a book's star rating I think. We're in such a hurry nowadays, the star can be (or is used?) as a shorthand way to know whether we ourselves will like a book or not. Since the beginning of this year, I've been using the stars the way GR labels them. Just as a way to note my own personal enjoyment. Like with Ice, I would say it was an "okay" read, to me, but nothing more.


Christopher Thanks for putting into words better than I could what I disliked about the book. I'm glad I'm not the only one!


message 19: by Mark (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mark Christopher wrote: "Thanks for putting into words better than I could what I disliked about the book. I'm glad I'm not the only one!"

Seems like there was a buncha buzz surrounding this around the time I read it so maybe I had high expectations, but man it was just blah


message 20: by Jan (new) - rated it 1 star

Jan Priddy I found it overwhelmingly disappointing. When I heard about it recently I wondered how I could have missed it in the years after it first came out. I was trolling for SF in those days. Now I realize I must have picked it up, read a bit and promptly shelved it and moved on.


message 21: by Mark (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mark Jan wrote: "I found it overwhelmingly disappointing. When I heard about it recently I wondered how I could have missed it in the years after it first came out. I was trolling for SF in those days. Now I realiz..."

I think it was late 2012, I started to see several folks reading and enjoying Ice, and wanting a short read I had to give it a try. 5 years later, I can't say I remember much about it. Even the last chapter, that I apparently thought was good, no recollection


message 22: by Mir (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mir Haha, you should read her "A Bright Green Field" -- it is even more about nothing than this one is!

I really interpreted this as being at least partially some sort of dream or hallucination on the part of the narrator.


message 23: by Mark (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mark Miriam wrote: "Haha, you should read her "A Bright Green Field" -- it is even more about nothing than this one is!

I really interpreted this as being at least partially some sort of dream or hallucination on th..."


This poor narrator didn't even have an interesting dream life


message 24: by Michael (new)

Michael Rosnach Yep, pretty much same experience over here. A lot of dreamy language for a while, manikins talking to other manikins, then a bit of an "ooh, this part feels real" in the end, and then it was over.


message 25: by Mark (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mark Michael wrote: "Yep, pretty much same experience over here. A lot of dreamy language for a while, manikins talking to other manikins, then a bit of an "ooh, this part feels real" in the end, and then it was over."

It's been a while, but some reads from around the same time still stand out as just a fantastic reading experience. I couldn't tell you a single thing that happened in Ice, though


Shaun This is one of my favourite novels ever, but I did enjoy your review.


message 27: by Jan (new) - rated it 1 star

Jan Priddy I almost wish I'd tried reading the last chapter on its own. But no, I really didn't care enough to bother. Dreadful novel.


Diego Rincon Ok, this review sums up perfectly how I feel about the book, in more detail that I could ever aspire to write. No need for me to write a new one. Also, Neuromancer is one of my favorite novels and finishing this books is like waking up from the numbness of watching TV on a dead channel for hours. On spot analogy, Mark.


Klaas Roggeman This rather sums up what I thought of it. There is something about the book, but it’s for me mostly lost in endless repetitious dreamy scenes. Now onto something more grounded.


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