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Batman by Neil Gaiman
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did not like it

I'm going to say a few words that you won't hear very often in reviews of comics. Especially comics written by comic book royalty like Neil Gaiman.

I don't get it.

Maybe it's because admitting that makes a person feel like an idiot. It's hard to hold a comic book about a man who uses a tool called a Batarang and admit that I have no earthly idea what the hell is going on, but so be it, here we are.

And you know what? I think more people should be prepared to say it. We would have a lot less of Grant Morrison's self-flagellating stuff, I'll tell you that right now.

The story, as I understand it, with parenthetical question marks placed next to elements that I'm not totally sure about:

Batman is dead(?). And watching his own funeral. As a ghost(?). His various villains approach the casket to say their pieces, and each seems to feel that he/she is responsible for Batman's death(?) and all claim different scenarios(?). Not in a way where they're scrambling to take credit for his death, more in a way where there are about 40(?) different timelines converging(?) including one where Alfred is the Joker.

Then Bruce sees his mom as a ghost. They have a brief argument that poses the theory that Batman is dead, but not dead dead. Almost dead. And this whole thing is his brain firing randomly. So basically we're watching a dream. Then his ghost mom tells him he'll get to rest for a few years, and the final pages feature the Bat Signal morphing into a pair of hands holding a baby, and then a nurse who is holding a baby and says "Mrs. Wayne? It's a boy." I don't know who this Mrs. Wayne is, nor what the time period is, but it appears that we're suggesting that Batman lives in some sort of life loop.

Just in case you got lost in the text there, I'd like to include one line again:

Then his ghost mom tells him he'll get to rest for a few years, and the final pages feature the Bat Signal morphing into a pair of hands holding a baby, and then a nurse who is holding a baby and says "Mrs. Wayne? It's a boy."

Yep, that happens.

I really have very little else to say about this other than the fact that I feel if we're just making up an alternate-universe story, there's no need to bring it all back around for next month's issue. We can just go nuts. So let's go nuts. There was potential to tell a great story here, which Neil Gaiman usually does, but somewhere along the lines we got lost in dreamland where all stories are confusing, and puzzling them out is irrelevant because you can defend any theory by saying, "Well, it's not real."

The other thing I wanted to talk about is this whole idea of putting two issues like this in trade paperback, and then including some vaguely related issues to fill it out. In this case, the two actual issues plus some other Batman comics written by Gaiman. So not issues leading up to or following this. Not something about Robin in this situation. Just some random shit from the 80's.

Listen, Comic Book Publishers, other formats don't do this. Sometimes a writer of thrillers will include a few pages from an upcoming novel, but they rarely dig back into the past. Why would you throw a couple badly dated Sue Grafton stories in with X is for Xotic Dancer Corpse (or whatever X is for)?

It's filler on every level, and nobody wants it. Today it's so easy to read a version of nearly any comic out there, so let people actually read what they are seeking and leave out the extras.
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Peter Derk Hmm...I appreciate the laying it out for me. There's definitely a meta angle shining through this story. And if I'm hearing you right, the ultimate point o the story, as you read it, comes down to why a society has created this batman that will forever be a tortured soul. Why would we do that?

I actually think that's a really interesting question. What purpose is served by the central concept of batman-ness? Clearly it had one because the idea of batman had so successfully struck a chord with so many different people.

That said, the narrative itself contained here didn't get me there. The ending made me think how we should feel bad for batman because he's doomed, but it didn't ferry me across the river to the place where I thought about how this reflected on me as a person.

I guess I needed more guidance to get there. So I thank you for that.

However, it doesn't really change my opinion of the book, really. I'm pretty up on my reading and familiar with meta-narrative techniques. This book just felt to me like a meta narrative, but that meta narrative never really broke through to our reality. It was still contained within the reality of the story and therefore didn't really lead me gently to asking a question about myself because I wasn't made an explicit part of the narrative.

Call me lazy if you will. But I'm not asking for a writer to spoon feed me the answers. I just need to be clearer on what the questions are.


David Just a quick question. Have you read Sandman at all? This story was classic Gaiman in my eyes, and that means something more symbolic and meta than down to earth and meaty. I feel like if you've actually read him, you'd expect what you got.

I thought the ending with the bat signal turning into hands was actually quite beautiful, lol. My first thought was of Buddhism and reincarnation, but obviously Gaiman's intentions go deeper than that. And how can you not love the part where Batman realizes like, "Oh shit, I die. Wait, of course I do. What else am I going to do? Grow old? I never give up, so of course I always die."


Peter Derk I've read the entirety of Sandman in addition to a few Gaiman novels, which I enjoyed. This one didn't do it for me.

Part of the challenge in writing comics, the writer has to be true to himself and the character at the same time, and that character doesn't always fit the writer's truth.

Sorry, but convincing me of the wrongness of my opinion based on an unfamiliarity with the author or source material just won't fly here.


message 4: by David (last edited May 17, 2014 05:50AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

David Fair enough. I wasn't arguing your opinion was wrong, btw. Everyone's entitled to theirs. I just couldn't see how anyone who likes Gaiman's other work would give this story one star as it's just so classically 'him'. But now I see that you've rated every volume of Sandman three stars, and that's pretty inarguably his best work, so obviously you don't like Gaiman that much to begin with and now everything makes sense again. Happy reading!


Peter Derk I hear what you're saying. I do think sandman is pretty great. For me, just a bit uneven, probably as much in the art as anything.

I think American Gods was my favorite Gaiman book. That one just hit all my buttons for some reason. I also really liked the graduation speech he gave at...I think it was an art school in Philadelphia(?) definitely look up the video if you missed it.


David I have seen that speech. It's pretty great. American Gods was also very good, but not my favorite. It's hard to criticize it for anything. It was a great book, but not as fun as a lot of his other stuff, imo. The Graveyard Book is probably my favorite prose novel of his. He writes children crazy good.


Peter Derk I haven't read that yet, but it's on my shelf! I'll have to get to it soon.


message 8: by Nathan (new)

Nathan Thanks for this. You've saved me wasting my money. I dislike these non-sequential collections of stories, especially when they're superficially contrived to be related. Cheers!


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