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Satantango by László Krasznahorkai
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After reading a certain chapter of this book I had to put it down. I felt it would take me not a few days but a few years to recover.

And it’s not László Krasznahorkai’s description of a certain thought nor its plausibility, it is a sense of mortifying realization that such a thought is inevitably real and human.

When I resumed my reading, the book informed:

What is behind me still remains ahead of me.

Written a few years before the fall of Communism, Satantango reads as a political allegory, Susan Sontag hailing Krasznahorkai “master of apocalypse which never happens�, but despite its post or pre apocalyptic premise and bleak imagery, there is so much more beneath the surface.

A narrative permeated with rain, mud, earth and rot consolidates into familiar forms, yet it is not always clear what is going on, there is a fog. Spiders crawl through sentences and spin their webs of meaning. But meaning might not exist anymore.

There’s no sense or meaning in anything. It’s nothing but a network of dependency under enormous fluctuating pressures. It's only our imaginations, not our senses, that continually confront us with failure and the false belief that we can raise ourselves by our own bootstraps from the miserable pulp of decay.

And there is so much rain, it’s the reign of rain, rain is persistent and continuous, rain destroyed time, rain is time. The characters themselves are not interested in any kind of measure of time anymore.

Time was passing very slowly and, luckily for them, the alarm clock had long ago stopped working so there wasn’t even the sound of ticking to remind them of time.

Satantango’s characters cheat, lie, drink, debouche and wallow in their misery. They exist doing nothing in a continuous nothingness until their mate comes back from the dead. He says he can “make it great again�, promising Eden on Earth, their Kingdom Come. Is he a savior? Is he God? Is he Elvis? Or a scam artist? Satan from the title?

The black rain come down
Oh water water everywhere
Where no bird can fly, no fish can swim
No fish can swim
Until The King is born
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The premise of this book might sound quite biblical or Faustian and while it’s not necessarily symbolist, one might spend an eternity pondering on metaphors and finding unexpected discoveries.

In addition to a literal tango there is a kind of time-image tango. Even the internal structure of Satantango is composed as a kind of dance - as I was spinning through the chapters, every time I thought I arrived at a certain destination I found myself right back at the start. And it’s the language, at least in translation, that really hits the mark. Thoughts are continuously thinking, discussing and interrupting other thoughts. Substance and style inform each other, while the author’s long looping sentences create a rather hypnotic rhythm. There is a process of continuous accumulation which reminds me of José Saramago’s work - who needs paragraphs or punctuation when one can just go with the flow? And although it’s quite rare, Krasznahorkai doesn’t break his sentences for nothing.

Though on the surface this novel is bleak, depressing, pessimistic and even nihilistic, there is a certain solace found in the author’s humour as well a hint of hope, maybe not exactly between the lines of this novel, but in its effect after reading - in its afterglow. In addition, having previously read somewhat lighter in tone and content A Mountain to the North, a Lake to the South, Paths to the West, a River to the East made me see a rather cosmological perspective to Krasznahorkai’s work. The descriptions of nature, animals, light and even rain are not necessarily those of something wicked or meaningless. All in all, I see this book as an antidote to the totalitarianism of mind. An incentive to keep on fighting against lethargy increasingly symptomatic in today’s world. And even more importantly, I feel it’s an ode to literature, poetry and art. Krasznahorkai said in an interview:

True artists, just like saints, were never ‘members� of our society. So the art they create is not an integrated, clearly defined and material part of society. Such art resides in a separate spiritual space that is perceived as part of reality.

While Krasznahorkai’s Satantango is a masterpiece on its own, his narrative combined with Béla Tarr’s incredible cinematography is pure poetry. After watching the film adaptation I rushed to re-read some parts of the book and admired it even more. Without a doubt, I will spend a long time thinking about it, unraveling its genius and dancing my life away to the rhythm of tango.

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Reading Progress

November 27, 2022 – Shelved as: to-read
November 27, 2022 – Shelved
October 26, 2023 – Started Reading
October 26, 2023 –
page 20
7.3% "Time was passing very slowly and, luckily for them, the alarm clock had long ago stopped working so there wasn’t even the sound of ticking to remind them of time."
November 6, 2023 – Finished Reading
March 6, 2024 – Shelved as: time-and-memory

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message 1: by Nick (new)

Nick Grammos I think I just let his book War on War wash over me. It was a thrilling ride, and I just had accept where it was going, like I had no choice. This looks the same. Thanks Maryana. Even your review feels like I'm back there.


message 2: by Ulysse (last edited Mar 06, 2024 10:04AM) (new)

Ulysse Wow this is a powerful review of what sounds like a powerful novel, Maryana. I like this idea of an afterglow in the darkness, which is not exactly a light at the end of the tunnel nor a glimmer of hope nor even a silver lining but perhaps a certain kind of art that can be pessimistic and bleak and yet able to bring solace to our lives. Well ok maybe not to everyone, but mine does crave occasional doses of rainy nights and spidery sentences. What I find most impressive about your review, though, is how you manage to consistently spell the author's name correctly :-)


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Vladys Kovsky I am kind of afraid of reading this book.


Anna Extraordinary description of the paradoxically reinforcing effect of what critics call bleak in his work, but is not bleak at all. "The totalitarianism of mind" - this is probably the best expression I've read in a long time about what happens inside us.


message 5: by Violeta (new)

Violeta Such an atmospheric review! I must agree with Anna above about that phrase of yours, Maryana. You gave me something to ponder on.
I marvel at how you manage to convey the overall feeling (pre-fall-of -the -Wall Eastern European bleakness) without a single mention of the plot. That Apocalypse that never happened in the book did happen in 1989, so maybe the book was prophetic after all?
I don't know if I'm up for the literary experience but I'll be on the look out for the cinematic one.


message 6: by Maryana (last edited Mar 08, 2024 05:04AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Maryana Nick wrote: "I think I just let his book War on War wash over me. It was a thrilling ride, and I just had accept where it was going, like I had no choice. This looks the same. Thanks Maryana. Even your review f..."

That’s a great way to describe the effect of Krasznahorkai’s writing, Nick! Once I caught the rhythm of this novel or the rhythm caught me, it was such a special experience. Although I suspect K is rather obsessed with words and language, there is a certain effortlessness to his writing. At the same time I can’t even imagine how much work and talent went into it.


message 7: by Maryana (last edited Mar 12, 2024 09:43PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Maryana Ulysse wrote: "Wow this is a powerful review of what sounds like a powerful novel, Maryana. I like this idea of an afterglow in the darkness, which is not exactly a light at the end of the tunnel nor a glimmer of..."

Thank you so much for your kind words, Ulysse. You know, at first I wrote “a glimpse of hope between the lines�, but it felt like an exaggeration. Glad to hear my “afterglow� impression resonated with you. A craving for crawly sentences, I know what you mean!

Ah the name! It’s called copy-paste 😅 But I think his name might be of a Slavic origin and I find it somewhat readable, although I’m not sure about the right pronunciation in Hungarian. For example, in my first language there is a word similar to krazsna, although it’s rather rare and kind of poetic - krasna (красний, красна, краснe, красно etc) meaning fine, beautiful, lovely, like весна красна - lovely spring. (In Russian a similar word also means red but I don’t think it means red in this case). Horka(i) is probably hora, hirka (гора, гірка) meaning little mountain or hill, so krazsna horka (i) might roughly translate to “of a beautiful mountain or hill�. It doesn’t always work this way and I might be wrong, but it’s how I find his name intelligible. I’ve also found out that there is a castle called Krásna Hôrka in Slovakia built in the 13th century by the Hungarian Ákos brothers. Of course the process behind the name Krasznahorkai must be much more complex. Maybe we can just call him K! 😎


message 8: by Maryana (last edited Mar 09, 2024 02:07AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Maryana Vladys wrote: "I am kind of afraid of reading this book."

To be honest, Vladys, I’m familiar with the feeling as it took me a while to crack this book open. But it’s been haunting me (in a good way) ever since I read it. Although it might look bleak and pessimistic, there is so much more. I hope you give it a try:)


message 9: by Ken (new) - added it

Ken You brought my own reading back with four words: "rain, mud, earth, and rot." Real and metaphorical. Like it or not, the book weighs on you, as your review amply demonstrates.


message 10: by Ilse (new) - added it

Ilse Dear Maryana, I loved your dance with Krasznahorkai - an ode to literature, poetry and art? Count me in, even if, like Vladys, I am afraid of what I might find in this book - and in the film. Besides, how spooky it is, that both you and I have Nick Cave on our mind when reading so different authors like Baricco and Krasznahorkai? Reading your compelling and magnificent review I also thought of another song, 'Kingdom of rain' by The The - a duet with Sinnéad O'Connor.


Margaret M - (having a challenging time and on GR as much as I can) What a wonderful tribute. Loved this review Maryana. ‘Pure poetry�


Maryana Anna A. wrote: "Extraordinary description of the paradoxically reinforcing effect of what critics call bleak in his work, but is not bleak at all. "The totalitarianism of mind" - this is probably the best expressi..."

Thank you for your kind comment, Anna! Despite so called bleakness and pessimism, I was really surprised by how revelatory and relevant to our times this novel is. Satantango makes me feel like there is nothing meaningful about humanity but at the same time makes me want to fight this feeling. Is this some kind of doublethink or should I embrace this conflict of ideas in my mind? Not sure about the right answer, but I would like to believe in a kind of resistance or resilience of human mind. People don't like freedom, they are afraid of it. The strange thing is there is nothing to fear about freedom... order, on the other hand, can often be frightening. This line in the film made me think further on some ideas developed in the book.

Your observation on the way the characters speak/think vs Irimiás’s speech is so on point! Even though I suspected his duplicitous intentions, the speech was so brilliantly written and full of genuine feelings I could believe his every word and felt almost as guilty as the characters did ;) Of course in the film adaptation it was masterfully translated into a wonderful long take close-up shot.

I see you have read many of his works, it must be amazing to read his writing in the original language. I’m interested in his other works as well as super curious about what he will come up with next:)


message 13: by Laura (new)

Laura Hungarian literature - it often verges on the edge of madness. From the outside looking in is a safe and stable place - you know how to retreat, how to stop, you have another reality to go to. For some people - there is no retreat - they are enmeshed in that reality, part of it. As a result of reading this - do you appreciate the relative safety of your world? Also when you are young, you can afford to dabble, or even actually experience danger - not so much as you get older.


Gaurav Beautiful review, Maryana. The book was my first step into the dark and melancholic world of Krasznahorkai and immediately he became one of favroite authors of all time. Thanks for bringing up some of eerie memories associated with this masterpiece :)


message 15: by Fionnuala (new)

Fionnuala Thoughts are continuously thinking, discussing and interrupting other thoughts. Substance and style inform each other, while the author’s long looping sentences create a rather hypnotic rhythm

That particular description of yours appeals to me very much, Maryana. The yellowing edition of Satantango which I've owned for ten years and which has made it to the top of my reading pile a couple of times, may finally get selected soon. I'll pick a rainy day:-)


message 16: by Ulysse (new)

Ulysse Maryana wrote: "весна красна - lovely spring."

Thank you for the wonderful musings on an author's name, Maryana, I really enjoyed the view from atop that beautiful hill. So with a new season just around the corner here's wishing you a весна красна :-)


Maryana Violeta wrote: "Such an atmospheric review! I must agree with Anna above about that phrase of yours, Maryana. You gave me something to ponder on.
I marvel at how you manage to convey the overall feeling (pre-fall-..."



Thank you, Violeta! Yes it feels quite prophetic, though I believe when Krasznahorkai wrote this novel in 1985 the collapse of the system was already in the air. I hope he didn’t predict any kind of apocalypse of the 21st century, sometimes I feel it’s already happening. What really surprised me about this novel was the way a sense of lethargy combined with an expectation of a quick fix resonated with the state of the contemporary world. And despite that, it didn’t turn me into a complete cynic as there is something in this novel that brings solace to my mind. But it’s possible to approach this novel from so many angles, fortunately it retains its ambiguity to the end.

The film adaptation is not easy to recommend, it’s both a very demanding and rewarding experience, let me know if you get to see it, I’m sure you would come up with amazing insights :)


Maryana Ken wrote: "You brought my own reading back with four words: "rain, mud, earth, and rot." Real and metaphorical. Like it or not, the book weighs on you, as your review amply demonstrates."

Glad these four words resonated with your reading experience, Ken, though maybe it’s not a book you’d like to remember or think about on a spring day :�) Hopefully my next review will be about something brighter like summer, birds and love (but still with a twist)...


message 19: by Maryana (last edited Mar 15, 2024 01:11AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Maryana Ilse wrote: "Dear Maryana, I loved your dance with Krasznahorkai - an ode to literature, poetry and art? Count me in, even if, like Vladys, I am afraid of what I might find in this book - and in the film. Besid..."


Dear Ilse, thank you so much for your lovely comment! You know, I don’t like trigger warnings (maybe except for bad writing but how subjective is that!), even so I’d like to advise you to tread carefully when reading this book or watching its film adaptation (some scenes might be more harrowing in the film). But of course I don’t want to put you off - the portrayal of bleakness is never gratuitous, the author establishes a certain level of empathy with the reader that makes its raison d'être quite meaningful. In any case I’d love to hear your impressions.

It is spooky and mystifying indeed! Now you’ve piqued my interest in finding out about Baricco! While these days I don’t listen to Nick Cave that much, his lyrics and melodies pop up in my head from time to time :) His universe is so expansive, I like how he keeps on reinventing his music, really looking forward to the new album. Thank you for the song, I love those piano notes in the end. Rain can kill time or bring demise to something, be it a society or a relationship, yet at the same time there is a certain purifying quality to it.


Margaret M - (having a challenging time and on GR as much as I can) You have made this sound so wonderful how could I resist. A fabulous write up Maryana 💖


message 21: by Vit (new) - rated it 5 stars

Vit Babenco Excellent.


Maryana Laura wrote: "Hungarian literature - it often verges on the edge of madness. From the outside looking in is a safe and stable place - you know how to retreat, how to stop, you have another reality to go to. For ..."

That’s a fascinating reflection, Laura. Your words remind me of Stefan Zweig’s longing for the lost world of security in The World of Yesterday. “Enmeshed in that reality� is a very intelligent way to put it, human beings can also live enmeshed in a peace bubble. Are we always the result of our circumstances? How can we live in a world where safety (or the big word peace) is supposed to be one of the essential elements of human survival, yet it is but a privilege?


Maryana Gaurav wrote: "Beautiful review, Maryana. The book was my first step into the dark and melancholic world of Krasznahorkai and immediately he became one of favroite authors of all time. Thanks for bringing up some..."

Thank you, Gaurav! This piece leaves a very long-lasting impression for sure, glad to hear Krasznahorkai became one of your favourite authors :) While there is definitely a dark and melancholic element to Krasznahorkai’s work like in Satantango, after reading rather luminous and life-giving A Mountain to the North, a Lake to the South, Paths to the West, a River to the East I was left with the impression that there are multiple layers to his world.


Maryana Fionnuala wrote: "Thoughts are continuously thinking, discussing and interrupting other thoughts. Substance and style inform each other, while the author’s long looping sentences create a rather hypnotic rhythm

Tha..."


Your edition is getting vintage, Fionnuala! I imagine you must have a lovely home library. Ah it’s true, maybe this is not the best book to read on a warm blue-sky day :) I would love to hear your impressions when you get to it.


Maryana Ulysse wrote: "Maryana wrote: "весна красна - lovely spring."

Thank you for the wonderful musings on an author's name, Maryana, I really enjoyed the view from atop that beautiful hill. So with a new season just ..."


Красно дякую, merci beaucoup, Ulysse! Likewise :) And wishing you a lovely Vernal Equinox Day today, it happens to be a public holiday in Japan 🌸


Maryana Margaret M - (on holiday wrote: "You have made this sound so wonderful how could I resist. A fabulous write up Maryana 💖"

Glad you like it, Margaret! Thank you so much �


Maryana Vit wrote: "Excellent."

Thank you, Vit!


message 28: by Sarah (new)

Sarah My favorite male cousin constantly reads philosophy; as a result, he's almost completely "unplugged" from society. He's a weird, wonderful man, and I can just imagine him brain-busting for days on this one: What is behind me still remains ahead of me. Come to think of it, I'll be pondering this one, too, and I'm going to send him a postcard with nothing but this quote written on it! Maybe I won't even sign my name!


P.S. - Beautifully written review, lady. Five stars for you.


message 29: by Sarah (new)

Sarah P.P.S. - Okay, I agree that "what is behind me still remains ahead of me" in that my life is full of patterns, cycles, seasons. My only caveat (AKA hope) is that I do a little better with each iteration. When the sameness of a situation registers, I can only try to apply lessons learned from the last go-round. You know?


message 30: by Anna (new) - rated it 5 stars

Anna Maryana wrote: I’ve also found out that there is a castle called Krásna Hôrka in Slovakia built in the 13th century by the Hungarian Ákos brothers. Of course the process behind the name Krasznahorkai must be much more complex.

In his newest novel, Zsömle odavan ("Bunny Is Gone"), a character called László Krasznahorkai, a young tall travelling guitar player, says his name is not related to the famous castle :-)


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