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Portnoy’s Complaint
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It's recently been brought to my attention that my book reviews frequently are not actually about the book. And I'm wondering why would you want to know about the book when all you have to do is click on the little blurb about the book and then get on with the fascinating reading about...oh, say where I bought my milk last Tuesday or my fondest/most traumatic childhood memory, etc, etc.
And, yet. I aim to please so here is my sincere attempt to tell you something about this book. It (the book) goes something like this:
sex
sex
sex
sex
guilt
guilt
guilt
guilt
sex
sex
sex
guilt
guilt
moms fault
guilt
moms fault
moms fault
guilt
sex
sex
guilt
kinda dads fault too
mostly moms fault
guilt
sex
sex
sex
self loathing
Jewish loathing
protestant loathing
protestant awe
more jewish loathing
again with the Protestant loathing
sex
sex
guilt
guilt
guilt
guilt
partial reconciliation with perceptions of all things Jewish
attempt at sex
failure at sex
guilt
guilt
guilt
mom's fault
Now that I've, no doubt drawn you into the plot line and compelled you to pick up the book for yourself, let me share with you some of my personal thoughts on the book.
Growing up conservative/fundamentalist(?) Christian, I am no stranger to guilt. As a matter of fact some times I feel that Catholics and Jewish people think they have the market cornered on guilt, well, you know what? taint so. I got some pretty messed up voices going on in my head too, ya know. And maybe I can't articulate my guilt trips into clever phrases or pinpoint experiences but I can tell you that guilt taught me a thing or two.
1. If I don't pick up that clutter someone else is going to have to. When I was younger this meant my mom, whom after setting aside her career as an artist to raise 5 kids and nearly had (maybe did have at one point) a nervous breakdown from the lack of money, the accumulation of clutter and my argumentative nature. In my adult life this means the custodian, whom after leaving Vietnam as an educated person has to toil with 2 and sometimes 3 jobs to send his son (and seemingly only hope at respectability in this career driven society of ours) to college.
2. Flour is not cheap and ingredients are not to be wasted! oh, the shame, the shame of ruining yet ANOTHER batch of gingerbread men.
3. pre-marital sex is BAD. BAD! BAD! BAD! Offering yourself as anything less than a virgin to your someday husband is tantamount to giving someone a big bag of steaming compost with worms crawling through it for their birthday. The only thing worse than pre-marital sex is being gay.
*it might be worth noting here that there was some guilt reprieve and gargantuan amounts of titillating conversation regarding what exactly you COULD do, short of having sex but even that was fraught with the anxiety of "accidentally" having sex. and I"m still a little hazy on whether or not I can participate in oral sex. I'm assuming it's a no go, while (okay Catholics and Jewish people, I have to admit I've got it easier here) masturbating is okay AS LONG AS one doesn't start fantasizing about others while masturbating. Which you gotta hand it to them (wa-ha-ha) is that not the purest form of masturbation?
4. Paper is meant to be used and re-used and re-used and re-used and re-used. Buying new paper is an intolerable opulence reserved for gluttonous pigs and ONLY gluttonous pigs.
etc, etc, etc,
so, did I find Portnoy's excessive guilt to be unreasonable or unreadable, not at all. I found it to be hilarious in it's familiarity. Matter of fact I found most of the book to be hilarious, which I hadn't anticipated. Some passages that I found particularly amusing are as follows:
-when he ate pudding he shouldn't have, "Well, good Christ, how was I supposed to know all that, Hanna? Who looks into the fine points when he's hungry? I'm eight years old and chocolate pudding happens to get me hot.
-Talking to his "doctor", "All I do is complain, the repugnance seems, bottomless, and I'm beginning to wonder if maybe enough isn't enough. I hear myself indulging in the kind of ritualized bellyaching that is just what gives psychoanalytic patients such a bad name with the general public"
-a child hood sexual fantasy, "Her favorite line of prose is a masterpiece, 'Fuck my pussy, Fuckface, till I faint.' when I fart in the bathtub, she kneels naked on the tile floor, leans all the way over, and kisses the bubbles."
-While observing "goys" at the skating rink, "Jesus, look how guiltlessly they eat between meals! what girls!"
-about a non Jewish girlfriend, ".....played polo (yes, a games form on top of a horse!)
But humor aside, I also appreciated some other aspects of the story. I loved the line, "What I'm saying, Doctor, is that I don't seem to stick my dick up these girls, as much as I stick it up their backgrounds-as though through fucking I will discover America". I remember standing alone in NYC (coming from a small town in Oregon) at age 17 and seeing the enormous variety of people and thinking how great it would be to be with the deaf man, the black man, the man in a wheel chair, the businessman, etc,etc,etc. Thinking how much I would KNOW if I could be with all of them (not simultaneously - gross! and not to worry, mom-should you come across this- I wasn't thinking sleep with them, just dates ya know, just some museums trips and a dinner here or there. okay maybe some light petting too, but really that's as far as that fantasy went). In the end I didn't broaden my horizons that way, I ended up dating one guy. One very nice Jewish boy. But still, I like the idea.
And finally I'd like to say that I think I damn near cried at one point near the end and yes, I did also nearly cry this week when I saw a mud flap of that silhouetted naked lady because I so hate the "ideal" that society feels so comfortable imposing on us less than "perfect" females, and I was a little chocked up when my son said, "I like having you for a mom", and all of this near teary-ness might indicate a certain hormonal fluctuation orrrrrrrrr it might indicate that I'm a sensitive genius? consider. Regardless, I felt sorry for the pathetic schlep at one point.
And thus concludes my thorough look at Portnoy's complaints plot points as well as the ubiquitous ME, ME, ME portion of my review.
And, yet. I aim to please so here is my sincere attempt to tell you something about this book. It (the book) goes something like this:
sex
sex
sex
sex
guilt
guilt
guilt
guilt
sex
sex
sex
guilt
guilt
moms fault
guilt
moms fault
moms fault
guilt
sex
sex
guilt
kinda dads fault too
mostly moms fault
guilt
sex
sex
sex
self loathing
Jewish loathing
protestant loathing
protestant awe
more jewish loathing
again with the Protestant loathing
sex
sex
guilt
guilt
guilt
guilt
partial reconciliation with perceptions of all things Jewish
attempt at sex
failure at sex
guilt
guilt
guilt
mom's fault
Now that I've, no doubt drawn you into the plot line and compelled you to pick up the book for yourself, let me share with you some of my personal thoughts on the book.
Growing up conservative/fundamentalist(?) Christian, I am no stranger to guilt. As a matter of fact some times I feel that Catholics and Jewish people think they have the market cornered on guilt, well, you know what? taint so. I got some pretty messed up voices going on in my head too, ya know. And maybe I can't articulate my guilt trips into clever phrases or pinpoint experiences but I can tell you that guilt taught me a thing or two.
1. If I don't pick up that clutter someone else is going to have to. When I was younger this meant my mom, whom after setting aside her career as an artist to raise 5 kids and nearly had (maybe did have at one point) a nervous breakdown from the lack of money, the accumulation of clutter and my argumentative nature. In my adult life this means the custodian, whom after leaving Vietnam as an educated person has to toil with 2 and sometimes 3 jobs to send his son (and seemingly only hope at respectability in this career driven society of ours) to college.
2. Flour is not cheap and ingredients are not to be wasted! oh, the shame, the shame of ruining yet ANOTHER batch of gingerbread men.
3. pre-marital sex is BAD. BAD! BAD! BAD! Offering yourself as anything less than a virgin to your someday husband is tantamount to giving someone a big bag of steaming compost with worms crawling through it for their birthday. The only thing worse than pre-marital sex is being gay.
*it might be worth noting here that there was some guilt reprieve and gargantuan amounts of titillating conversation regarding what exactly you COULD do, short of having sex but even that was fraught with the anxiety of "accidentally" having sex. and I"m still a little hazy on whether or not I can participate in oral sex. I'm assuming it's a no go, while (okay Catholics and Jewish people, I have to admit I've got it easier here) masturbating is okay AS LONG AS one doesn't start fantasizing about others while masturbating. Which you gotta hand it to them (wa-ha-ha) is that not the purest form of masturbation?
4. Paper is meant to be used and re-used and re-used and re-used and re-used. Buying new paper is an intolerable opulence reserved for gluttonous pigs and ONLY gluttonous pigs.
etc, etc, etc,
so, did I find Portnoy's excessive guilt to be unreasonable or unreadable, not at all. I found it to be hilarious in it's familiarity. Matter of fact I found most of the book to be hilarious, which I hadn't anticipated. Some passages that I found particularly amusing are as follows:
-when he ate pudding he shouldn't have, "Well, good Christ, how was I supposed to know all that, Hanna? Who looks into the fine points when he's hungry? I'm eight years old and chocolate pudding happens to get me hot.
-Talking to his "doctor", "All I do is complain, the repugnance seems, bottomless, and I'm beginning to wonder if maybe enough isn't enough. I hear myself indulging in the kind of ritualized bellyaching that is just what gives psychoanalytic patients such a bad name with the general public"
-a child hood sexual fantasy, "Her favorite line of prose is a masterpiece, 'Fuck my pussy, Fuckface, till I faint.' when I fart in the bathtub, she kneels naked on the tile floor, leans all the way over, and kisses the bubbles."
-While observing "goys" at the skating rink, "Jesus, look how guiltlessly they eat between meals! what girls!"
-about a non Jewish girlfriend, ".....played polo (yes, a games form on top of a horse!)
But humor aside, I also appreciated some other aspects of the story. I loved the line, "What I'm saying, Doctor, is that I don't seem to stick my dick up these girls, as much as I stick it up their backgrounds-as though through fucking I will discover America". I remember standing alone in NYC (coming from a small town in Oregon) at age 17 and seeing the enormous variety of people and thinking how great it would be to be with the deaf man, the black man, the man in a wheel chair, the businessman, etc,etc,etc. Thinking how much I would KNOW if I could be with all of them (not simultaneously - gross! and not to worry, mom-should you come across this- I wasn't thinking sleep with them, just dates ya know, just some museums trips and a dinner here or there. okay maybe some light petting too, but really that's as far as that fantasy went). In the end I didn't broaden my horizons that way, I ended up dating one guy. One very nice Jewish boy. But still, I like the idea.
And finally I'd like to say that I think I damn near cried at one point near the end and yes, I did also nearly cry this week when I saw a mud flap of that silhouetted naked lady because I so hate the "ideal" that society feels so comfortable imposing on us less than "perfect" females, and I was a little chocked up when my son said, "I like having you for a mom", and all of this near teary-ness might indicate a certain hormonal fluctuation orrrrrrrrr it might indicate that I'm a sensitive genius? consider. Regardless, I felt sorry for the pathetic schlep at one point.
And thus concludes my thorough look at Portnoy's complaints plot points as well as the ubiquitous ME, ME, ME portion of my review.
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And I missed people telling me that masturbation was okay! Maybe Baptists had a different handbook or something- with them it was always "pretend you have on a bikini and nothing under that bikini should be touched- by anyone- not even yourself!" It made wiping your ass preeeety hard unless you wore a string bikini.
Was mostly bored by this book -- but not by this review. Especially not by: Offering yourself as anything less than a virgin to your someday husband is tantamount to giving someone a big bag of steaming compost with worms crawling through it for their birthday.

I blame my parents. The Church of England (in which I was brought up) didn't really go in for guilt.
Lutherans don't do that whole guilt thing. It was awesome.

Marie is a Guilt Monster. That's what I call her. She feels bad for all the world's transgressions. But not so bad about the pre-marital sex, ironically enough.


Ben, I didn't know you youngins knew about guilt. good on you!
David, come on! I added something about the book, what more do you want?
Marie, you know I would be Captain to your Tenille any freaking day of the week -- if only for the pleasure of wearing that nautical hat and an all-white double-breasted suit with gold anchor-embossed buttons -- but I fear that two dynamic, ultracool, incendiary forces like us would be dangerous if we banded together into one mega-awesome book reviewing force. It'd be a total McCartney-Lennon thing going on... or worse... George Michael and that other dude from Wham! that nobody remembers.
Edit: Oh, never mind. Your comment was directed at the other David. I hate all this mass Davidness. It's too damned much. David Me, David Him, David The Other, David Horowitz, David Hasselhoff, David the peeping-tom biblical dude. Enough already! I'd still be Captain to your Tenille though... if there are costumes involved.
Edit: Oh, never mind. Your comment was directed at the other David. I hate all this mass Davidness. It's too damned much. David Me, David Him, David The Other, David Horowitz, David Hasselhoff, David the peeping-tom biblical dude. Enough already! I'd still be Captain to your Tenille though... if there are costumes involved.

But you have so much to feel guilty about.

Dave wrote: "But you have so much to feel guilty about."
Isn't it great?
Isn't it great?

Of course, maybe he can have more than one?
Ben's superhero name is Cougar Catnip. Or so I've heard tell. (But hurry up and use the hell out of that name, Ben. You ain't gettin' any younger, you know.)
Ben, I just got your postcard! Thanks!
WHAT?!?! I didn't get a motherfucking postcard! Cougar Catnip, you're dead to me.
Dead.
Dead.

Ben, I..."
But Dobson isn't Baptist- and masturbation was never covered in Love Must Be Tough or The Strong Willed Child! :) I probably missed that Focus radio segment because their radio calendar had an asterisk by the topic- Mom wouldn't turn it on then. Crap. And to think I was stuck with the Pacific Garden Mission's "Unshackled!" instead ()
But I do owe Dobson a big one- one of the clues that your kids were into drugs he listed as bent spoons. I was terrified my mom might think I was into them- oh the potential guilt!- so I ransacked the utensils and got rid of anything too crooked. Whew.

And, um, sorry about the post card. I'd offer to send you one from Lakeland, but unless you find something sexy about meth and redknecks, I think you're best waiting till I get out of here again....
Cougar Catnip. Man, that's great.

Now I have to read it, if only to experience the book that provoked such an entertaining review!


sex
guilt
mom's fault
I would have enjoyed the book much more and the dishes would have gotten washed.
Loved your review though



"Lolita is a just a book about an old perv."
"Romeo and Juliet is just a boring play about another love story."
"Schindler's List is so slow. It's just about some Jews being kiled. Plus, it's black and white. Boring."
"Catcher in the Rye is an annoying kid complaining for 250 pages. He's really gets tiresome."
Not only are they oversimplifications of more complex, arcane works but they belittle and denigrate novels, books, and plays that have many more levels than you are giving them credit for.
For instance, did you realize that there were a significant amount of Freudian, Oedipal, and Jungian references?
Regardless, not liking a book is fine. Additionally, I can understand why you would take fault or issue with a book that is so unequivocal in it's critique of religion and sexual repression. These are contentious, disputatious topics; when you consider what Roth is saying about them in "Portnoy", they become even controversial, but to oversimplify and then dismiss "Portnoy" conclusively and unconditionally is a crime.
Oh, and "Moby Dick" is not just about a whale, either. Sorry to break your heart.

I feel as though you've "oversimplified" my "more complex, arcane" review and that by doing so you may have "belittled and denigrated" goodreaders everywhere.
nah. just kidding - it doesn't bother me that you don't like my review. And horror of horrors it also doesn't bother me if people think that,
Lolita is a just a book about an old perv."
"Romeo and Juliet is just a boring play about another love story."
"Schindler's List is so slow. It's just about some Jews being kiled. Plus, it's black and white. Boring."
"Catcher in the Rye is an annoying kid complaining for 250 pages. He's really gets tiresome."
But I do feel like I should point out that I didn't acutally "take fault or issue" with this book. I liked it. a lot. which is why I gave it four stars.
So let's all enjoy a slice of mango and remember that just like "'Moby Dick'" IS "just about a whale" to some people, Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ is just about a bunch of people slapping their opinions/connections/memories/thoughts on a website.

It mostly is, though.

The best book reviews are about other things than the book. I just wanted to encourage you to write book reviews which don't just consist of summaries, but contain something about you!


