欧宝娱乐

I haven't read this book. I have a copy though.

It's not real men who ravish, it's rapists. So, no thanks.
Just my opinion.

i dont know that liking emily bronte makes me technically pro-rape, but for me its hard to consider austens men to be truly masculine when they are so fretful of o'erstepping the bounds of decorum and propriety that all the actions take forty pages and clandestine letters and many apologies just to admit attraction. so much wasted time. and whats love where no one haunts the other unto madness after death?? its not passion unless someone torments your children by another man after you have died. thats just how i was raised....

Karen, when I reviewed this book way back when* and chose to award it one star**, the AusteNazis, led by that ubiquitous harpy Sherri (moderator at True North), were in such a lather that anyone so much as dared to cast aspersions on this, their sacred text, that Sherri herself blocked (!!!) me on 欧宝娱乐 because of it -- I know. Psychotic, right? -- and a bunch of others were delivered into such frothing seizures of spite and personal affront that you'd think I called them stupid whores for liking the book.

So obviously there is a rabid constituency of thin-skinned AusteNazis who have not yet sniffed out your review and assembled their armies. Your three star rating shouldn't put you in too much peril, but if you couple this with a public denunciation of Sense and Sensibility, I can't vouch for your safety.

(By the way, I'll take the stories where everybody "torments one another until they die miserably." If I want escapism from reality, I'll take lots of drugs instead.)

* The original review has since been replaced because I was just plain sick of all the annoyance it was causing me.

** A provocative rating, I'll grant you, but Jane Austen needed a dressing down.

Never read it. Tried to, but couldn't get through it.

PS: I love you, David.

read it.
admired it, mildly.
never understood what all the fuss was about... not entirely true. I do understand. It's just not my favorite cuppa.

maybe you just need to read Darcy's side of the story and one of the 54 continuation to Pride and Prejudice novels out there to fully appreciate it. Don't give up on the story yet!!!!

Are you going to read the zombie version, now, Karen?

I just hate Wuthering Heights. Does anyone like both books?

yeah i pretty much only read this one so i could get to the zombie one; i didnt want to ruin the story by only reading the zombie one. i think one is either an austen or a bronte. i think their views on what constitutes love are too dissimilar to meld harmoniously in one person. poll time??

oh and david - i would love to read your review but you are another one who makes my computer crash. but steps are being taken - its at the top of the school-break list: fix computer.

I respect your three stars. I mean really the book is not great. I do like her writing, but I like her like I like soap operas... I always have something better to do. On the other hand one of these days I do have to get around to bronte. honestly what is wrong with me.

Consider my hand raised. Love them both.
(and your review)

i wanna see what you think of the zombie one

yeah i was looking forward so much to reading it, but most people have said it is bad, which is disapponting. i will read it anyway, of course.

J wrote: "Consider my hand raised. Love them both.
(and your review)"

is this in answer to Jackie's question?
I wonder how many others there are, and if you are unusual in that, J.
(but yes, we already know you are ;-)

Good for you, J!

oh I like that comment (20). It shouldn't be either/or, and not only treatises on love, types thereof.

I'll take pleasure spiked with pain for twenty, please.

Bronte over Austen, but both win when compared to soap, the bar kind, or the kind that comes with opera.

well no wonder I prefer Emily, I much prefer red to white!
;-)

But after three glasses what does it matter? :)

fantastic analogy. plus white goes better with cold fish.

Karen, clearly you are a Marianne, not an Eleanor.

i wish i understood that.

Karen, it's a reference to Sense and Sensibility. Eleanor is the practical sister, Marianne the emotional one.

oh, man, now i have to read another austen...
thank you!

either you don't really dislike austen as much as you say or you are a glutton for punishment

i dont hate her, im just unmoved by her. i prolly wont read sense and sensibility, unless these people keep making more jokes that i dont understand.

I think she may be worth digging a bit deeper into.
There's stuff under that fluff.

You could just watch the movie of Sense and Sensibility, which I actually like better than the book.
Kate Winslet plays Marianne, and Emma Thompson is Eleanor. There is a romantic rescue by a man on a horse and everything!

yeah, i just feel like ive read three of them - if i dont love her by now, its unlikely i will. and thats fine - i cant love everything. there are so many books in the world, and im not a teenager anymore - every day could be my last, so i have to make decisions. i kind of envy the austen ladies though - they didnt have to pay rent or work - just marry well and then its all strolls in the park and reading. i could do that.

Sometimes I think upon it as a sort of geisha lifestyle...the characters certainly were constrained in some manner or another, free to be do anything with their free time but not really free to be anything in their free time.

People will disagree with this, I'm sure. I am hardly a Jane Austen junkie...I like her, but sometimes her characters run together in my head on the heath.

no i know what you are saying and that might be what i kind of have a problem with in austen. the restraint - the social restrictions. cathy would have just barrelled over to darcy and bullied him into talking to her, thereby saving so much time. drama in muslin is a wonderful book about sexual politics and finding husbands for multiple daughters. it is a genius book that isnt much read, unfortunately.

But Cathy would have done that because she had come from a different place- a place of no family, a place of nothing to lose. Bronte's pendulum swings wildly, life, death, love, meaning....while Austen sometimes uses the small tics of the same pendulum to make you think about the same issues.

thats true, genius. i just get frustrated because caution is so booooring for me to read about, and i just want people to be grabbing bulls by horns and whatnot.

You know, Bronte endings aren't all that great. People that grab bulls' horns very often get gored or trampled.

There is a place for those who use judicious caution- and that place is usually among the living.

Ahh, but you say, living what kind of life?

And some might answer, the boring one in which you still breathe.

yeah, thomas hardy is my favorite; i dont mind a tragic ending. it makes for good literature, if not great life decisions.

And how do you feel about Jane Eyre? Jane is very proper, and yet she gets swept into a gothic nightmare.
Her strength of character and conviction is what I love about that book, in contrast to both Cathy and Heathcliff's spitefulness.

i like jane eyre, but just not as much as wuthering. rochester is kind of a dick, which i like less than the shameless self-destruction of heathcliff. i like the extremes in wuthering. rochester is mostly just cranky.

i want to read "wuthering heights" now! O(>O<)O

but i guess i have to wait until this awesome edition comes out

these are great covers. even pride and prejudice looks cool here.

karen make note of these!!

i like the scarlet letter one too. they are also going to release a new huckleberry finn in this edition too

i missed that one, I did see the Scarlett Letter, which is also a good cover.

Holy cow, those are awesome! I like the Huck Finn one best. That skull and that smoke cloud make me happy.

That's another good one, are there anymore of them?

I didn't like the Huck Finn. Why is he under water? Where's the raft?