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Death by Jill Thompson
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it was ok
bookshelves: comics, dc-infinite, graphic-novels, read-in-2023

This is the reason I don't read a lot of manga.
I'm not saying that all manga is cringy (because I don't read enough of it to know) but this book right here is an example of why I mostly avoid it. And I don't even know if this is manga or just mangaesque.
Everyone here is seemingly having childish temper tantrums or crying big tears or having some other overblown emotional outburst. It's like having to watch a particularly badly acted play.
Plus, most of the women look like they are either 7 years old or a complete wet dream. I find that somewhat off-putting but I know that it's just the style, so whatever.
And to be fair, no one is overly sexualized in this one at all.

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So the gist is that this is what Death, Despair, and Delirium were all doing during Sandman's Season of Mists. You know, the one when Lucifer decides to quit and hands the keys of Hell over to Dream?
It's a great arc, if you haven't read it yet.
Not this, the original.

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This wasn't my jam.
No disrespect if you liked it, but it didn't hit with me in any way.
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August 17, 2023 – Started Reading
August 17, 2023 – Shelved
August 18, 2023 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Rosenblue (new)

Rosenblue Isn't this story written,drawn and published in the U.S.?
Tokyo Pop has a habit of labeling all their comics manga.
The art style looks cool and I can tell the artist was inspired by the gothic and visual kei scenes in the States and Japan at the time.
Their child-like style is a popular weird theme in manga.
The terrible over acting was a common theme with comics inspired by manga in the 2000s.
The writer (like many Tokyo Pop comic artist and cartoonist) was clearly using the manga theme for sells.
She not even considered a mangaka in her biography on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ.
Well at least (according to your review) the characters aren't overly sexualized.
There are really great manga out there but many of them have perverted scenes in them.
It sucks that stories are often ruined by fan service but I learned to ignore the scenes that aren't too difficult for me to tolerate.


message 2: by Dimi (new)

Dimi Tsioubris Please try Neon Genesis Evangelion, Akira, Blame! Or ghost in the shell


message 3: by Mohan (new)

Mohan Vemulapalli I am still on the fence as to whether or not I will read this one. I did read a few Death stories recently for the first time in many years and I was pleasantly surprised by how good they were, - so we will see ... .


Anne (Let's promote honest,non bias reviews & a dislike button on GR) wrote: "Isn't this story written,drawn and published in the U.S.?
Tokyo Pop has a habit of labeling all their comics manga.
The art style looks cool and I can tell the artist was inspired by the gothic and..."


Yeah, I don't think this was manga at all. My daughter would be very quick to point out that if it's American it's not manga, too. OR how I'm mispronouncing the word manga. #deargodsavemefromteenagers
But the overblown drama faces are the reason I avoid manga in general. I watched enough anime in the 90s to know about the sex scenes. Of course, that WAS one of the main draws to me back then as a teenager. There's a time in our lives for all the different things. lol
I'm not making a judgment on manga at all, just stating that if you're like me, Thompson's version of this story may not knock your socks off.


Anne Dimi wrote: "Please try Neon Genesis Evangelion, Akira, Blame! Or ghost in the shell"

Give me a link to whichever one you think I would like, Dimi. I don't want to end up with the wrong thing.


Anne Mohan wrote: "I am still on the fence as to whether or not I will read this one. I did read a few Death stories recently for the first time in many years and I was pleasantly surprised by how good they were, - s..."

Yeah, if it looks good to you, give it a try for sure. I'm not the target audience for this but I'm really not sure if it was bad or just not my style.


message 7: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Clark Oh gossshhhhh 90 s manga.... That said, a fun one is Sweat and Soap. Winds up being super cute too!


Anne It's hard for me to find manga, Jenny. I end up having to go and get physical copies and that's just HARD. b/c i'm lazy...


message 9: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Clark And its expensive


message 10: by Anne (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anne No shit! Ghost in the Shell with have to be a kindle purchase.


message 11: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Clark Sweat and Soap is on kindle tooooo *hint hint* lol


message 12: by cloverina (new)

cloverina Dimi wrote: "Please try Neon Genesis Evangelion"

I think Anne would HATE Evangelion. I love it with all my heart and it's a brilliant piece of art but it's a confusing, jumbled mess that has very little appeal to anybody who doesn't want to spend an hour looking into it. I have no clue what Anne's mental state is but if she's mostly happy she would also dislike it LOL. Evangelion is for the overly depressed girlies who need therapy


message 13: by cloverina (new)

cloverina Anne wrote: "OR how I'm mispronouncing the word manga."

I'm betting 10 pence that you pronounce it mane-guh


message 14: by Niche (new)

Niche It's hard finding good manga recs from people because many forums tend to Stan whatever series they're into because if you don't agree with them you have no taste and are of dubious parentage. A lot of manga chases trends and tends to stay in it's lane with regards to a lot of genre tropes so the trick is finding that right vein. It can be worth looking into what magazine something you liked originally ran in as they sort of work like imprints for grouping reader demographics. But yeah, that does really help finding physical books even if lesser known titles ever get a localization.


message 15: by Anne (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anne cloverina wrote: "Anne wrote: "OR how I'm mispronouncing the word manga."

I'm betting 10 pence that you pronounce it mane-guh"


Well, I used to. Now I have to pronounce it mon-guh because my kid is a pretentious ass. lol


message 16: by Anne (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anne Niche wrote: "It's hard finding good manga recs from people because many forums tend to Stan whatever series they're into because if you don't agree with them you have no taste and are of dubious parentage. A lo..."

The only true manga I've read was Uzumaki and I loved that. Horror may be my wheelhouse. But finding it digitally is hard for me because I tend to use my library's collection for most of what I read.


message 17: by Rea (new)

Rea K Uuuugh. I've been trying to get back into my manga phase and failing because no library wants to own digital copies. And then I found a favorite series on Kindle unlimited only to find that there are holes in the collection (aka they choose some random ones to not have unlimited), and the series sequel I *want* to read only has the first two available. I am salty like a pretzel.


message 18: by Peter (new)

Peter Yeah, I do read some manga, but the infantilisation combined with sexualisation in most manga is bothersome. I really do my research before I read manga to make sure it doesn’t have any of that.


message 19: by Anne (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anne Rea wrote: "Uuuugh. I've been trying to get back into my manga phase and failing because no library wants to own digital copies. And then I found a favorite series on Kindle unlimited only to find that there a..."

I'd read a lot more manga if my library had digital copies, too. Why is that, I wonder?
That SUCKS about Kindle Unlimited! I wasn't impressed with their selection years ago but I thought they might have gotten better with the passing of years.


message 20: by cloverina (new)

cloverina I'm still really impressed with their comics collection, but mostly because I haven't read a lot of major ones and they have plenty of them.


message 21: by Anne (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anne Peter wrote: "Yeah, I do read some manga, but the infantilisation combined with sexualisation in most manga is bothersome. I really do my research before I read manga to make sure it doesn’t have any of that."

I'm not versed enough in manga to weed out the bad yet. A lot of my friends love it, so I just need to figure out what genre I would like to read. <--I guess?
It's the big overexaggerated yelling mouths, the massive tears, etc. that don't appeal to me. I need to go where the art style isn't that and I should be fine.


message 22: by Anne (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anne cloverina wrote: "I'm still really impressed with their comics collection, but mostly because I haven't read a lot of major ones and they have plenty of them."

I'm not a fan of paying for a digital service and them not having complete series, though. It feels smarmy to me. I get it when they give the first issue or volume away to get you interested - that's just good marketing strategy.
But if you advertise yourself as unlimited then it better include everything.


message 23: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Clark Yes! This is why I got rid of comixolgy from kindle! Half a series and buy the rest? Nah fool


message 24: by Anne (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anne Jenny wrote: "Yes! This is why I got rid of comixolgy from kindle! Half a series and buy the rest? Nah fool"

Comixology never appealed to me for that very reason!
And I'm not a fan of buying digital copies. If I really love it, I want a physical copy that I can hold in my hands and thumb through. Plus, I'm always afraid that they will go out of business and my copy will be gone.


message 25: by Rea (new)

Rea K Oooh. So definitely don't get comixology. *takes notes* I was idly curious if they would have a manga selection or not, but if it's not worth it, i may as well just hit up the library and find things there. (I remember getting incredibly mad at Netflix once for having half of a movie series and not even the first half.) And there are several series that I bought physical copies of because KU didn't have the rest of the series and neither did my library system. Guess who didn't make money off that one, Amazon. (Actually, I think my main used book site *might* be owned by Amazon, which defeats the purpose)


message 26: by Chad (new)

Chad Anne wrote: "Well, I used to. Now I have to pronounce it mon-guh because my kid is a pretentious ass. lol"

You are definitely the most fun parental unit I know.


message 27: by Anne (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anne Chad wrote: "Anne wrote: "Well, I used to. Now I have to pronounce it mon-guh because my kid is a pretentious ass. lol"

You are definitely the most fun parental unit I know."


I'm going to let my kids know that. Hey, you guys could have done a lot worse!


message 28: by Anne (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anne Rea wrote: "Oooh. So definitely don't get comixology. *takes notes* I was idly curious if they would have a manga selection or not, but if it's not worth it, i may as well just hit up the library and find thin..."

If you have to buy, check out the cheap sites! A friend of mine introduced me to InstockTrades and they have some decent deals.


message 29: by Chad (new)

Chad Anne wrote: "Rea wrote: "Oooh. So definitely don't get comixology. *takes notes* I was idly curious if they would have a manga selection or not, but if it's not worth it, i may as well just hit up the library a..."

I'm a fan of asking the library to buy anything I don't think I want to own. Typically they have money set aside for requests.


message 30: by Anne (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anne I feel bad doing that sometimes because I want them to buy the things that will be popular reads when it comes to comics. I do put in requests for books on Libby, though.


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