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Truman by David McCullough
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it was amazing
bookshelves: bio, audible-us, history, leaders, ww1, favorites, ww2

ETA: I adored this book when I read it, but now my perspectives are a bit changed....... I am currently reading American Prometheus by Kai Bird. It is essential to get another view on Truman's actions and choices concerning atomic weapons, the arms race and the Cold War. To get a fuller understanding of the time and era I strongly recommend reading American Prometheus too!

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I listened to the audiobook format of this book, that means more than 54 hours, and I enjoyed every minute of it. Little content could have been removed. The narration by Nelson Runger was wonderful. I have complained about his slurping before, but the producers have removed the slurps. His steady clear pace perfectly matches the informative text. His intonation for Truman, was perfect, both the strength of his speeches in the presidency and his reflections, to-the-point remarks and sarcastic jokes of the elderly man. Our voice does change with age, and Runger has mastered this. (Some voices were, however, in my opinion, too low and ponderous.) At the end, and this is a book that covers all aspects of Truman’s life, from birth to death, i.e. 1884-1972, there were tears in my eyes. This is a book about a man dedicated to fighting for his beliefs, but he was a politician at heart. Keep in mind that I tend to instinctively distrust politicians. It is rather remarkable that I so loved this book. I will try to never again shy away from a book about politicians……well, at least such books written by John McCullough.

Why did I love this book? You learn about American life and values as they were when America was still a land of pioneers to what it had become by the middle of the 20th Century. What the political parties stood for has changed dramatically with time. On completion of this book you have a thorough understanding of the American party system. You travel from an agrarian Midwest value mindset through WW1, the Depression, the New Deal, WW2, the emergence of atomic weapons, the birth of the UN and NATO, the Berlin blockade and successful airlift, the Cold War and McCarthyism, the focus on civil rights, the Korean War all the way up to Kennedy’s presidency. You follow this time-period through the life of a man living through its events, and a man who as president shaped many of these events. McCullough gives you a thorough understanding of all these events and a thorough understanding of the man Truman.

It is an honest book that never shies away from the mistakes made. I wasn’t thrilled with Truman’s friendship and dependence upon Pendergast. I felt that Truman’s relationship with his wife was at first not adequately clarified. By the end I understood Truman, all of him. I believe I comprehend both his familial relationships and the value he put on friendships, which explain his relationship with Pendergast . You see both the good and the bad. I very much admire the strength and forthrightness of Truman who was at heart a marvelous politician. Yes, definitely a politician who fought for his party and made mistakes, but dam he tried his best. Always. He never shirked his responsibilities. He never ran away from a problem, but faced them head on. He was not infallible. I still don’t understand why they never had more children…�

I was born in 1951. I understand now what my parents lived through and why they were who they were. I understand now what lead up to the world I was born into. I totally loved this book.
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Reading Progress

April 5, 2013 – Shelved
April 5, 2013 – Shelved as: bio
April 5, 2013 – Shelved as: audible-us
April 5, 2013 – Shelved as: history
April 5, 2013 – Shelved as: leaders
April 10, 2013 – Started Reading
April 17, 2013 – Shelved as: ww1
April 20, 2013 – Finished Reading
April 21, 2013 – Shelved as: favorites
April 2, 2014 – Shelved as: ww2

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message 1: by Laura (new) - added it

Laura I hope you're enjoying this one!


Chrissie I absolutely love it, and Nelson Runger is not slurping. He only did that in the Benjamin Franklin book, remember?! I guess the production techniques have improved.

McCullough never disappoints. I think this is my fourth book by him.


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Laura I'm so glad he's not slurping! That was hilarious. You'd think the producer would have caught that?


Chrissie Others in the audiobook Group also think he often slurps! It is not just me that notices this. Well, he is not doing it in this book. Poor guy!


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Laura Unfortunate career choice, lol. They make that job look easier than it is though, I bet.


Chrissie Books where the characters are from different countries are very hard to narrate....


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Laura No doubt.


Michael Nice review from the heart. Like you I was surprised how fascinating the author made all the political aspects. Kind of amazing how a clothing merchant could become president, and one who is so underrated. However much McCullough may be disparaged as a historian, he makes a great story and succeeds in emotionally engaging the reader (I teared up too at times like you). Loved the parts on the showdown over McArthur.

Do you read such books in French? Any figures from Belgium subject of a great book you can recommend?


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Laura Wow, terrific review, Chrissie. Well done!


message 10: by Chrissie (last edited Apr 21, 2013 07:48AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Chrissie Michael, I don't read as much in French as I used to, simply because I need to look up French words in a dictionary. With poor eyesight lexicons are practically impossible.

I very much like books by Éric-Emmanuel Schmitt, such as Monsieur Ibrahim and The Flowers of the Qur'an and Oscar et la dame rose. The latter maybes sounds depressing, but it is the absolute opposite. Then I can recommend Amélie Nothomb. I liked Métaphysique des tubes. None of these books are about historical Belgian figures, although AN's father was the Belgian ambassador to Japan. She is funny, she says she gives birth to a new book every year. In other words, quite prolific.

The haberdashery was a total failure! You began to see Truman's personality in the decisions he made in WW1. I very much enjoyed Truman's views on McCarthur. General Eisenhower, too. I think McCullough does a magnificent job of making an historical figure come alive. I want to know the person, not just what he has done!

Laura and Michael, I am glad you like my review. I HOPE people will pick of this book soon. I chose the book because my husband wanted to listen to it, and so for me it was a delightful surprise.

I am curious if I will like The Hopkins Touch: Harry Hopkins and the Forging of the Alliance to Defeat Hitler as much. I don't know anything about the author, but having read No Ordinary Time: Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt I now want to know more about Hopkins, and then I discovered this!


message 11: by Cherie (last edited Apr 21, 2013 01:13PM) (new) - added it

Cherie Laura wrote: "Wow, terrific review, Chrissie. Well done!"

I agree!!! Terrific! I cannot wait to read this book.


Michael Chrissie wrote: "Michael, I don't read as much in French as I used to..."
So French is a second language for you? I was friends with a stream of Belgian neurologists doing research training with my department chief, a neurologist heading a lab with 5 or 6 principle investigators. Some spoke that modern form of Flemish and others who were Waloons a different variant(or do Waloons speak Flemish?).

I hope Truman felt bad about the Belgian people who had to host a front line position in two wars just in the last century. My mother was an army nurse and served at The Battle of the Bulge. Pretty risky and hard on Belgium. But Truman had little input on military operations, but made a lot of important contributions as VP through Harry Hopkins, about whom you are aiming to read more.

I'm trying to stop hating Truman for his part in unleashing the two nukes. Firebombing of civilian cities had already killed as many in Germany and Tokyo. That taking Okinawa might take a million soldiers stood big in the equation. The Allied Forces slaughter of civilians with nukes is the worst thing the U.S. ever did. Not in line with the Geneva rules, which already banned gas warfare as a WMD. Still the Empire was a tough adversary. And then Truman goes from that to another war six years later, dancing to the drums of the Cold War in between. Poor guy--no wonder getting back to Kansas was a relief.


Michael Chrissie wrote: "... having read No Ordinary Time: Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt I now want to know more about Hopkins...

No Ordinary Time was a 5 star read for me, and that is where I learned about the many roles of Harry Hopkins. Also Wouk's "Winds of War" shows Harry Hopkins' part in the lend lease schemes with Russia (seen through the eyes of the Mitchum character on the military side of things).


Chrissie Michael, French is my third language. I was born and lived in the US until I was 19. Then I moved to Sweden and lived there most of my life. Now we have been living in Belgium for about 15 years, we will soon be returning home to Sweden, but living in Brittany, France too.

In Belgium, there are two very distinct groups of people. For a tiny land it is ridiculous how everything is split. The Waloons are French speaking. Then there are the Flemish. In the past the French people had more power and squished the Flemish. Now the reverse is true. WHY, can't people learn from history and stop repeating the same mistakes?! The Flemish people seriously want to split this teeny country in two. I am so sick of the fighting that has been going on since we arrived. Same issues over and over again.

Today we cannot understand the use of atomic weapons in WW2.... because we have seen where this has lead. McCullough explained expertly how the reasoning was then; you completely understand why they did what they did. Look, Russia was developing the same weapons and Japan was not about to accept defeat. Many wanted to use an atomic bomb in Korea and Truman refused.

Re a book about Belgium: King Leopold's Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa is a wonderful book. I just thought of it.

My father fought in WW2 at the Battle of the Bulge/ the Ardennes Offensive too. He would not speak about it. Never. He was shot there. I think Truman clearly was remorseful about the suffering of the Belgians in both wars. He saw the importance of keeping atomic weapons under civilian control. Wind's of War I followed on television years ago, in Sweden. I still remember it.


I was wondering, why did you remove one star? Is it your anger at Truman?


Chrissie Cherie, it is a totally wonderful book. It is nice you appreciated my review.....and told me! Thanks.


Michael Chrissie wrote: "...I was wondering, why did you remove one star? Is it your anger at Truman?..."

I didn't give it 5 stars because of a ceiling effect from giving 5 stars to histories by Doris Kearns Goodwin, Stephen Ambrose, and Nathaniel Philbrick and because of the concern from some quarters over McCullough as an historian:
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Chrissie I appreciate that you sent me the article, but I am not sure I agree with all the criticism. I have previously heard about Goodwin's plagiarism. McCullough at least is not accused of that! The article points out that he has people working with him, helping him. So?! Then there is the criticism that too much is simplified; history is more complicated. My response to that would be that if historians cannot write in a manner that is digestible nobody will read it, so some simplification is good. And how do you define mediocrity?! I am glad I read the article, but I cannot swallow it without my own criticism. :0) Thanks for explaining.


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Tejas Janet Chrissie wrote: "Re a book about Belgium: King Leopold's Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa is a wonderful book. I just thought of it. ..."

I remember hearing about this book, but it hadn't made it to my TBR list until now. Thanks for the recommendation.


message 19: by Tejas Janet (last edited Apr 22, 2013 09:14AM) (new)

Tejas Janet Chrissie wrote: "I appreciate that you sent me the article, but I am not sure I agree with all the criticism. I have previously heard about Goodwin's plagiarism. McCullough at least is not accused of that! The arti..."

I thought the exchange here about McCullough and the Truman book he authored was interesting.

I hope that atomic or other nuclear bombs will not ever be used again, and still can't help but regret that the US chose to ever use them. Perhaps it was necessary in order to achieve unconditional surrender by Japan at that time, which was attempting to negotiate a conditional surrender until the bombings prompted their unconditional surrender.

However, it remains on the US national conscience of being the only people to have ever used atomic weapons to fight a war. Well, the decision was made by the political leaders, but they made the decision that stands. I regret that there is any precedent for the use of such weapons although it's difficult to impossible for me to imagine what the world would look like today if the fascist powers had prevailed.

I regret even more that human beings can't seem to rise above antagonizing and killing one another rather than living together cooperatively in peace.


Chrissie Janet, I agree with all that you are saying, but when I read a book of history I want to also understand how people of that time were thinking then.


message 21: by Tejas Janet (new)

Tejas Janet Yes, I agree 100%. It's very important to understand that. Otherwise, the US might just look like a thug or bully, or so it seems to me. Really good discussion and review, Chrissie.


Chrissie Thanks, Janet.


message 23: by Pam (new) - rated it 5 stars

Pam Walter Thanks, as always for your terrific review, Chrissie.

I have it on my 'to read' list (as next)!!


Chrissie Thanks, Pam. I hope you will enjoy it as much as I did. It is big, it is long, but to really understand you need all the details. That is what I thought at least.


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Pam Walter Chrissie wrote: "Thanks, Pam. I hope you will enjoy it as much as I did. It is big, it is long, but to really understand you need all the details. That is what I thought at least."
Harry was one of my fav presidents.
My stepdad was a marine getting ready to invade the Japanese mainland on 6 August 1945. Pops is alive and well today!
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Lisa Vegan Chrissie, You've convinced me. I added it. It's also the first book I added to my audiobook shelf because it would probably take me forever to read a text edition.

I also tried to add The Unbearable Lightness of Being to my audiobook shelf, but then saw my library doesn't have it in audio. The only 2 audio editions are missing, and I'm sure they won't buy any more. Too bad because I don't really want to read that book, but my book club is reading it later this year so I feel obligated to get through it. I know many people love it but I don't think I will. I didn't like the movie.


Chrissie Lisa, I do recommend Truman as an audio, but not Kundera's. You need to stop and think with Kundera's. You constantly have to stop and think, what does he mean with that?! I think it helps to have been in Prague to love that book. I should read the book again...... I liked it better than any of his others. It left me with a special feeling b/c I could picture where the things he talks about happened. Those places are so beautiful. The feel of the city seeped into my impression of the book.


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Lisa Vegan Thanks, Chrissie. I've unfortunately never been to Prague. I'm hoping the descriptions will be enough to be evocative and that I can enjoy it, but I'm not looking forward to that book. I hope it surprises me and I end up liking it.


Chrissie There is a special feel to Prague. It is just magical. We were there and we always ended up on top of the hill where the castle is. Just gorgeous with the park. It was freezing and I had no gloves, so one evening, now don't laugh, I wore a pair of black socks on my hands. I figured no one would even look. And the sidewalks - every single one has the stones placed in different patterns. I found myself always checking out the stones. In my photo album I have a whole page of different pavement patterns. Near the Jewish cemetery there are stars.


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Lisa Vegan Thanks, Chrissie, for giving me a feel. I wonder if I should try to get a travelogue video of Prague???


Chrissie Good idea, or look or internet for pictures.


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Lisa Vegan Chrissie wrote: "Good idea, or look or internet for pictures."

I will do at least that! Thanks, Chrissie.


message 33: by Chrissie (last edited Apr 27, 2013 09:35AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Chrissie You are welcome.

I just weakened and bought The Whale Rider at Audible, on sale. I know you are interested in this one. The narrator is Kiwi and there is music between the chapters. The bad thing is that it is extremely short. I am guessing it will be a delightful experience.


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Lisa Vegan Chrissie, I saw The Whale Rider movie, and liked much of it but ended up finding it highly disturbing. I don't know how closely the movie is to the book. I'll look out for what you think of the book, Chrissie.


Chrissie Well, it is a chance buy.


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Lisa Vegan Chrissie wrote: "Well, it is a chance buy."

If it's like the movie, I'm not so sure you'll like it, but I hope you do, and I'll look out for your review.


message 37: by Caroline (last edited Apr 02, 2014 07:59PM) (new)

Caroline What a brilliant review of a marvellous sounding book. Your third paragraph describes everything one can hope for from an historical biography. I love getting a sense of time and place, as well as a sense of person.

I was also very interested in the follow-on comments...


Chrissie What both you and I want from an historical biography seem the same! Caroline, thank you for telling me that you appreciate my reviews and thank you for stopping here and leaving a comment. I like talking with people about books, sharing ideas!


message 39: by David S. T. (new)

David S. T. Good review, I'm actually planning on listening to this soon to get a different perspective from the one presented in American Prometheus.


message 40: by Chrissie (last edited May 14, 2014 07:59PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Chrissie Thanks, David.

You will not be disappointed by American Prometheus: The Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer. I read this earlier this year and gave that too five stars. Absolutely excellent. If I remember correctly, I enjoyed how well it depicted the mentality of the Cold War period. It is really important to see these leaders from different angles. I read another that showed Truman differently, but for the life of me I can't remember which book that was!


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Corona evening Thats helpful


Chrissie Corona wrote: "Thats helpful"

Really? I am happy that I helped someone.


message 43: by Tim (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tim Thanks for the great review. There is an abridged audio version I checked out from the library that I just started listening to that's only 5 hours. But maybe I should wait for the full version based on your comments.


Chrissie I don't go for abridged books--you don't know what you have missed and the prose can be changed. This is an excellent book unabridged; I think you should it instead. JUST mt opinion of course. You know yourself best!


message 45: by Tim (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tim I took your advice. I sprung for an Audible subscription to get it as I was thinking about trying that anyways. Here we go, 54 hours!!


Chrissie I hope you end up happy with your decision! I think it is helpful' to take notes as I listen. Information fastens more easily into my head if I take notes.


message 47: by Tim (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tim Oh yeah, I'm a big note taker. That's a lot of why I like audiobooks. It helps especially on political books as there are so many different names, so I like to have a quick reference guide of who each person is.


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