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Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution
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4.5 Stars
For years my husband has complained about not being able to hear dialogue in movies against the backdrop of the score and his inability to keep up with family conversations in restaurants among the ambient noise (note that we have 2 daughters, so all female). In the past I have shrugged away my irritation and told him to clean the wax out of his ears and suggested a good ENT. Well, it turns out that men's ears don't hear higher frequencies as well as women's and that their hearing loss of the higher frequencies (the range where most women speak) begins at age 25. Apparently this difference evolved as females needed to be able to hear their babies over the sounds in the canopy when they moved about. My husband thanks you, Cat Bohannon, and I have issued my apology.
Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution is an evolutionary and social history through the lens of the female body. The seeds of this book were planted with Bohannon's realization that most medical research was conducted on male subjects so the differences in the female body were not taken into account. Female bodies are not just male bodies with breasts and wide hips; there are fundamental differences.
Some fascinating (to me anyway) things I learned:
Adipose tissue (fat) is an organ. Women's fat and men's fat are different. Each fat deposit in our body has a different function. One example is that the fat in women's hips, thighs, and buttocks is full of long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids like those found in fish oil. At puberty, females begin storing these fats (which we can't obtain enough of from our daily diet) in order to nourish the brain and retinas of a fetus during a pregnancy and breastfeeding.
Most of us know about the immune system benefits that come with breastfeeding. Those babies who are breastfed get an added benefit. While the milk flows out of the nipple there is an upsuck of the baby's saliva. "Depending on what happens to be in baby's spit that day, the mother's breasts will change the particular composition of her milk. Her milk will actually change to include an agent to fight a specific pathogen or to include hormones to soothe a stressed baby.
Pregnant women with malaria are three to four times more likely to suffer from the most severe forms of the disease, and of those who do, 50 percent will die. . . . The entire reason the United States built the CDC [and located it in Atlanta] is that malaria was rampant throughout the American south. Malaria was finally eradicated in the United States in 1951." My footnote (not in the book): In 2023, for the first time since then, there have been 9 reported cases of locally acquired malaria in the U.S.--7 in FL, 2 in TX, and 1 in MD. Climate change?
Why do women live long after they are no longer reproduce and live longer and more healthfully than men? Bohannon posits that "whatever helps female bodies live on may simply benefit male bodies less, and losing more males may not cost primate societies that much. . . . From a scientific perspective, males don't really need to live as long as females to perpetuate the species." As to the why, Bohannon suggests that "Before we could write stuff down, it was especially important to have someone in the group who could remember earlier crises. It's usually not hard to find someone who can remember a difficult thing that happened ten years ago. It's much harder to find someone who remembers a difficult thing that happened forty years ago, or how, precisely, the community managed to find a workaround." This knowledge combined with gynecological and midwifery skills were the evolutionary pressures that selected women to live longer.
Where I feel Bohannon is less sure footed is in her hypothesis over the evolution of sexism. Do read her thoughts and come to your own conclusions.
Bohannon is an excellent writer--clear, engaging, informative, and entertaining. There is so much more than these bits that I have shared, and all of it is fascinating. If the topic interests you, by all means take the plunge and read this book!
Publication 2023
For years my husband has complained about not being able to hear dialogue in movies against the backdrop of the score and his inability to keep up with family conversations in restaurants among the ambient noise (note that we have 2 daughters, so all female). In the past I have shrugged away my irritation and told him to clean the wax out of his ears and suggested a good ENT. Well, it turns out that men's ears don't hear higher frequencies as well as women's and that their hearing loss of the higher frequencies (the range where most women speak) begins at age 25. Apparently this difference evolved as females needed to be able to hear their babies over the sounds in the canopy when they moved about. My husband thanks you, Cat Bohannon, and I have issued my apology.
Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution is an evolutionary and social history through the lens of the female body. The seeds of this book were planted with Bohannon's realization that most medical research was conducted on male subjects so the differences in the female body were not taken into account. Female bodies are not just male bodies with breasts and wide hips; there are fundamental differences.
Some fascinating (to me anyway) things I learned:
Adipose tissue (fat) is an organ. Women's fat and men's fat are different. Each fat deposit in our body has a different function. One example is that the fat in women's hips, thighs, and buttocks is full of long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids like those found in fish oil. At puberty, females begin storing these fats (which we can't obtain enough of from our daily diet) in order to nourish the brain and retinas of a fetus during a pregnancy and breastfeeding.
Most of us know about the immune system benefits that come with breastfeeding. Those babies who are breastfed get an added benefit. While the milk flows out of the nipple there is an upsuck of the baby's saliva. "Depending on what happens to be in baby's spit that day, the mother's breasts will change the particular composition of her milk. Her milk will actually change to include an agent to fight a specific pathogen or to include hormones to soothe a stressed baby.
Pregnant women with malaria are three to four times more likely to suffer from the most severe forms of the disease, and of those who do, 50 percent will die. . . . The entire reason the United States built the CDC [and located it in Atlanta] is that malaria was rampant throughout the American south. Malaria was finally eradicated in the United States in 1951." My footnote (not in the book): In 2023, for the first time since then, there have been 9 reported cases of locally acquired malaria in the U.S.--7 in FL, 2 in TX, and 1 in MD. Climate change?
Why do women live long after they are no longer reproduce and live longer and more healthfully than men? Bohannon posits that "whatever helps female bodies live on may simply benefit male bodies less, and losing more males may not cost primate societies that much. . . . From a scientific perspective, males don't really need to live as long as females to perpetuate the species." As to the why, Bohannon suggests that "Before we could write stuff down, it was especially important to have someone in the group who could remember earlier crises. It's usually not hard to find someone who can remember a difficult thing that happened ten years ago. It's much harder to find someone who remembers a difficult thing that happened forty years ago, or how, precisely, the community managed to find a workaround." This knowledge combined with gynecological and midwifery skills were the evolutionary pressures that selected women to live longer.
Where I feel Bohannon is less sure footed is in her hypothesis over the evolution of sexism. Do read her thoughts and come to your own conclusions.
Bohannon is an excellent writer--clear, engaging, informative, and entertaining. There is so much more than these bits that I have shared, and all of it is fascinating. If the topic interests you, by all means take the plunge and read this book!
Publication 2023
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I'd be inclined to go with Bohannon's theories on why women live longer. I've noticed that it is the women in my extended family that remember the important stuff, the medical history of grandparents, the names of all the relatives, the chains of connection between cousins, etc. If the men ever heard that stuff, it went in one ear and out the other. Their ears really are different!

And what about this ".....and losing more males may not cost primate societies that much." - NOW COME ON!!!!! Surely we're good for a laugh, even if that laughter is directed at us not with us. Great review my friend :))

Thanks Ron. I found this book fascinating all the way through. There's so much here that I either didn't know or had never considered from this viewpoint.

Thanks Candi. What's the other book on your list? Is it something that might pique my interest?


I'd be inclined to go with Bohannon's theories on why women live longer. I've noticed that it is the women in my extended f..."
I have noticed this too. I think that it is because women tend to focus on people and how they are affected by situations and events. My husband can come home from an outing with his brother and not know one thing about what is happening with his family.

Well the laughs are good, and evolution doesn't care how much we laugh. 😞
It only takes a male a few months to make sperm and about 60 seconds to ejaculate. And far fewer of them are needed as one can impregnate multiple woman. There is a lot more invested in a woman who has to wait for eggs to mature, carry that baby for 9 months, breastfeed that baby, and then care for the child for several years until it is able to be independent.
Evolution just selects for what is most likely to continue going forward.
Ok. End of lecture, especially as I know you were just being lighthearted. I can get carried away . . .

Anyway, sleep time for me. Night!! 😴


I didn't see your comment above until now. So funny, right? (The malaria topic again?). Not funny ha ha, just interesting timing.



Jennifer, there's so much more. I just picked out a few things to share. I am interested and enthralled!

Anyway, sleep time for me. Night!! 😴"
I think we're all remarkable! 😀

I'm a good resource on a lot of current health topics, just feel free to ask.
I so appreciate when the universe effortlessly provides! 😀

Thank you Debbie! I have a lot of enthusiasm for this book.

Thank you, Jennifer. I do love biology and all things related!

This really is mesmerizing if you're interested in the topic.

Males don't really need to live as long as females to perpetuate the species...
That statements been generating a lot of comments here -- okay if I add mine? The author has had the good fortune to grow up in a society in which marauding bands of men don't arrive, clubs and spears in hand, to capture slaves and murder with impunity. Some of the 'community action' you mentioned was doubtless military in nature. Going back even further in time, many of our Great Ape relatives still have males who kill off infants sired by rival males to bring the females more quickly into estrus. I can imagine, in a society like that, having a couple of shrewd old uncles could be a real help.

A Brief History of the Female Body: An Evolutionary Look at How and Why the Female Form Came to Be. Justin reviewed it, so check out his thoughts!


Males don't really need to live as long as females to perpetuate the species...
That statements been generating a..."
Please do chime in. Bohannon does talk about these issues.
I just picked a very few things to include in my review. She does tell of infanticide, by mothers, and other females as well as by males, both the fathers and not. Evolution has no morals; it selects purely for survival.
After you read this, please tag me. I 'd love to talk about her theories on monogamy and sexism.

[book:A Brief History of the Female Body: An Evolutionary Look at How and Why the Female Form Came..."
Thanks. I jotted this one down, and somehow didn't hit the button here on GR. These 2 sound like good companion reads.

I learned a lot with this enjoyable read. Now to see how much of it sticks to the brain. 😉

Because it will be some time before I get to this book, and because I'm super curious to hear what Bohannon has to say about sexism and monogamy, I did a bit of legwork. There's an NPR interview transcript with Bohannon that covers a bit about this among other parts of her book. I'm sure I'll get more out of reading the entire work but the interview was an interesting snippet :)

Because it will be some time before I get to t..."
Bohannon defines sexism as rules a society creates around access to female bodies and fertility. I hadn't thought of it that bluntly before. She posits her theories of how these rules may have evolved in varying cultures. And her opinion of how they currently do, or do not, serve. Since this is more sociological than biological, there is a lot less concrete support for her theories. And they certainly will get you thinking.
I am thrilled to have sent you seeking more, and glad you've had a taste of this book. I know you'll get to it eventually and will enjoy it.


Hmmmm. Once your youngest finishes college I can see you back in the classroom. Which of the many topics that interest you will you pursue?

Hmmmm. Once your youngest finishes college I can see you back in the classro..."
I'd probably not land back in the classroom at this point, unless it was for a library science degree. But if I turned the clock back, I'd say maybe something in the field of biology. I enjoy my talks about evolution and genetics with my daughter a whole lot :)

Hmmmm. Once your youngest finishes college I can see you back i..."
While our daughters were doing their high school courses I took a night class each semester at the Community College for the sheer joy of it. It allowed me to dabble in those areas of interest with a little discipline and structure and gave me a good excuse and practice in saying no to other things.

I definitely have substantial high frequency hearing loss. I'll have to explain this to my wife when she tells me I don't listen to her, LOL!

My husband is thrilled that I have stopped harangueing him over this! Good luck with your wife! 😄


Ah technology. So much promise and frequently great. And so much headache and frustration. All rolled into one!
Whenever you get to it. My opinions never leave me, they just sometimes change as I am persuaded to see aspects of the world differently.

Aren't 5 Star reading experiences the best?!


Michelle, I found this an engrossing read presenting a lot of new information and ideas for me to consider. I think at the very least you will learn a lot about the evolution of female anatomy and physiology.

Now that I've read this (and thanks for prompting me to do so) I couldn't agree more with the statement above.
I *do* feel the science got a bit weaker as we moved along, and perhaps there was some cherry-picking of data to support her thesis. I still feel the argument that "wise grandmas" are useful while "wise grandpas" play no role was not persuasive.

Now that I've read this (and thanks for prompting me to do so) I couldn't agree more with the statement above.
I *..."
I'm so glad I prompted you to read a book for a change. And I found this one a very worthwhile read, though I didn't agree with all of her opinions; yes, those last sections of the book. I did learn a lot, and found it endlessly fascinating.


So glad to have been of service! 😂

But the example you gave does not mean at all that your husband does not hear high frequencies very well. I doubt that you are talking at a frequency of 6-8 kHz. It may be a problem with attention, or other cognitive problems.
This is sad because such books mislead people who are far from science. Because the differences, even if they exist, are very AVERAGE. The author mentions differences in olfaction, but does not cite the 2019 meta-analysis, where, although there was a female advantage, it was very small.
She talks about color perception, but only within the framework of tetrachromacy, forgetting to say that many color vision carriers (i.e., women with a defective gene, which some claim makes them tetrachromatic) actually experience an increase in color discrimination.
It is sad that popular science still exploits the science of gender differences and further spreads the false paradigm by exaggerating (usually using jokes), or forgetting to make remarks and formulate thoughts correctly, noting that these differences are averaged, and both sexes are more similar than different.
Your husband may have good hearing, not much inferior to yours, but he may have trouble paying attention.