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The Red and the Black by Stendhal
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The Red and the Black draws a colorful mosaic about the required hypocrisy to climb the ladder of social status in the France of the .
Chronicled by an omniscient narrator, who meets every requisite to be Stendhal himself, the reader follows the story of Julien Sorel, a young man of humble origins whose only ambition is to ascend in the social hierarchy in a world still dominated by the Machiavellian politicking of the clergy and the nobility after the downfall of the Emperor.
Despised by his family because of his “extravagant� taste for reading, Julien makes of Napoleon his surrogate father and plans his future with militaristic, almost obsessive precision. The army (The Red) is no longer in fashion and so he chooses his career among the pious men of faith (The Black). First as a seminarist and then as a tutor of Latin, Julien will learn the bearing, the deferential poise and the conversational skills to achieve his so much desired goal that will lead him to Paris, the capital of sophisticated Savoir-Faire.

Straddling literary naturalism and romanticism, a tragicomedy of the most entertaining nature unfolds in a quick paced prose not short of acerbic satire and wry humor, where all sort of characters are presented as caricatures of the motley social strata of the convoluted era. Liberals and monarchists, Jansenists and Jesuits, aristocrats and peasants, radicals and conservatives; with all their disparate positions and beliefs, all the characters have the common traits of nepotism and debauchery that acquire allegorical connotations in the development of Julien’s personality, which evolves ceaselessly in the course of the story.

Half romantic hero, half despicable villain, Stendhal’s protagonist becomes an emblem of the author’s contempt for the gullible disposition of men. Julien’s actions in society don’t correspond to his personal views and so he passes through life in a constant performance. He treats his masters with proud dignity to hide his sense of inferiority, he falls in love with the idea of seducing women of noble descend to cover his need for validation, he conceals his vulnerabilities and cheats himself with delusions of grandeur, and so his moods fluctuate between his artificial objectives and his true feelings, cleaving him in two.

Is Julien a victim or the outrageous product of his time?
He certainly falls prey to the false morality that Stendhal’s denounces openly with disarming jocularity. But there is much more than that in this uncategorizable book, because underneath the superficial parody, there is a philosophical undercurrent that grows more evident in the last chapters, which appear untitled, maybe as a symbol to represent Julien’s progressive unveiling, for his fate seems to be determined by birth and not by his honest resolutions.
In the blink of an eye, Stendhal flips the tone of his narration and the reader finds himself facing the paradox of a protagonist that can be either understood as an arrogant moron or as a valiant idealist.
As the declared romantic I am, I lean towards the second option and choose to see Julien’s last acts as a proclamation of his rightful independence. Having dropped the masks, he can see clearly into his heart and avoid "this desert of selfishness which is called life.�
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“A good book is an event in my life.”
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Reading Progress

April 28, 2013 – Shelved
June 29, 2015 –
page 46
8.21% ""In Paris, love is the child of fiction.""
June 30, 2015 – Started Reading
July 1, 2015 –
page 182
32.5% ""You are obviously accustomed to smiling faces, veritable theaters of falsehood. Truth is stern, sir.""
July 5, 2015 –
page 333
59.46% ""Amidst so many dangers, I still have ME." This book is hilarious."
July 8, 2015 –
page 560
100.0% ""The duty I prescribed for myself, whether wrongly or rightly, has been like the trunk of a stout tree which I could cling to during the storm. I wavered, I was shaken - after all, I am only a man - but I was not swept away.""
July 8, 2015 – Finished Reading

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Lynne King I'm sure you will love this book Dolors!


Dolors I am amazed at how delightful Stendhal's humor is...loving the book so far,Lynne!


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Wanda Great review, Dolors.


Violet wells Brilliant review, Dolors. As Marita said you've made me want to read this again.


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Fionnuala The scenes I remember most vividly from this book are the early ones when his father used to complain about Julian's “extravagant� taste for reading. I seem to remember my mother making a similar complaint about me when I'd skip the chores to hide in a corner with a book ;-)
Thanks for bringing the rest of Julian's story back to me so clearly, Dolors.


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Lily A fascinating review, Dolors, especially your comments on how the style of storytelling changes as the story nears its end, and the different ways that the main character might be understood.


Dolors Wanda wrote: "Great review, Dolors."

Thanks for reading and dropping a kind comment, Wanda.


Dolors Violet wrote: "Brilliant review, Dolors. As Marita said you've made me want to read this again."

Marita wrote: "Your review creates a desire to re-read this novel which I read many years ago. : )"

Excited to her that, Violet and Marita. I was so taken with Stendhal's classic that I bought his The Charterhouse of Parma as soon as I finished "The Read and The Black". Hope to get to it soon.


Dolors Fionnuala wrote: "The scenes I remember most vividly from this book are the early ones when his father used to complain about Julian's “extravagant� taste for reading. I seem to remember my mother making a similar c..."

Heh, what reader hasn’t sneaked a book inside the bed to read under the dimmed lantern light? ;)
Julien summoned the capricious, immature and selfish child I struggled to outgrow, and yet to tone down these faults meant somehow to lose the innocence and the clinging to ideals attached to them. What I really liked about Stendhal’s character is that he managed to preserve both and to be true to himself, as imperfect, even as detestable as he sometimes was.


Dolors Lily wrote: "A fascinating review, Dolors, especially your comments on how the style of storytelling changes as the story nears its end, and the different ways that the main character might be understood."

This was a great classic that I had had pending to read for ages and I am really glad I finally laid my hands on it. Stendhal’s tone was comical at first, even sardonic, like his character, whose progression matched the evolution of the author's writing style. I am thrilled that you highlighted this idea, for it reflects one of the aspects I mostly enjoyed of this book. A bunch of thanks for that and for your consistent kindness, Lily!:)


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flo "Recommended for: Skeptics and believers"
*raising her hand*

This sounds like a fascinating story, with all the necessary ingredients to catch my attention (having in mind that it's a +500 book and I have the attention span of a goldfish). I added this book years ago, but a Dolors review appears like a breath of fresh air to remind me of it. Beautifully written. :))


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Dolors, when I read your review, my horse gallops wildly, and I unsheathe saber as I charge headlong into the storm and smoke. Your excellent review brings this marvelous book back to life with dash and élan, worthy of an intrepid soldier of La Grande Armée. The reading of this book brought me great joy such as Julien must have felt when he first beheld Madame de Rênal in her boudoir or when he ascended the ladder to the Mademoiselle de La Mole. Let me drop the mask and ask of a fellow romantic, "Who can ask greater glory in love than to(view spoiler)?" You are as capable and ambitious as Julien because your stunning review captures the grand gesture of this book; yet, you demonstrate a skillful economy of words that I cannot match--even though the joy I felt while reading this book cries out to be shared with others in our community. Also, the timing of your review is in synch with my own memory of "The Red and the Black" while I was reading Blixen's "Seven Gothic Tales," which alluded to France during this period and contains some of the same romantic elements and observations--though not the comedy or light. I'm a believer in dropping the masks, and I am skeptical that you would ever fail to find the perfect words to describe the indescribable pleasure of Stendhal.


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Seemita And here it is! I had been waiting for your review of this work for darn long, Dolors! And now that its here, it unsettles me in its vast angles and measures. Appearing at once like a whole world of intermingling superiority and inferiority, made plausible only by the believable characters etched from the rock of destiny and faith, this work is perhaps a part-memoir or a strong, vociferous appeal of the author. You do tremendous justice to the protagonist's voice; there are no sand-bags to decelerate his march and the desert looks amenable in the perennial spring of your nurturing eye. Another stunner, dearie! I will come back to it to savor it more once I meet this gentleman :)


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Warwick Nice summary, Dolors. Like others, I feel a need to go back to this…and as a fellow romantic I do sympathise with your interpretation of the ending :)


Dolors Florencia wrote: ""Recommended for: Skeptics and believers"
*raising her hand*

This sounds like a fascinating story, with all the necessary ingredients to catch my attention (having in mind that it's a +500 book an..."


*grins wholeheartedly, with twinkling eyes*

Dear Florencia, I bet Mr. Stendhal is your type, and your comments just proves it. Sincerity, playfulness and receding layers of depth that invite readers to ponder multiple possible interpretations about Julien’s “fate�. I hear the bells of Camus� enlightening absurdity and the aftermath of the existentialist idea of action based on individual responsibility chiming all over this tale, so make sure your goldfish memory retains this title longer than others! ;P
Thank YOU for always adding freshness and insight into everything I write with unfaltering support, Florencia!


Cristina Uau!!! Clàssic pendent per a mi :S. Una review fantàstica! Sense haver-lo llegit m'ha semblat una anàlisi molt precisa del llibre. I he flipat amb l'ús del vocabulari en anglès, nena. Olé tu! Agafant el retrat general de la societat que s'hi descriu, creus que seria extrapolable, d'alguna manera, a l'actualitat?


Dolors Steve wrote: "Dolors, when I read your review, my horse gallops wildly, and I unsheathe saber as I charge headlong into the storm and smoke. Your excellent review brings this marvelous book back to life with das..."

So many percipient references hidden under the jocular tone of your comment, Steve. I like the mischievousness in which you wear Julien’s mask because in doing so, you unveil “the truth� behind the pastiche that Stendhal presents with taste and dexterity. Is Julien acting to achieve social acclaim or is he too self-absorbed to realize the injustices he perpetrates over others? Is he the result of artifice or incriminating honesty? You know I lean towards the second option, but Stendhal’s biggest achievement is that his story is open to multiple possible interpretations…like Blixen’s tales!
So yes, indeed, great call in detecting not only the veiled subversion and playful tone but also the French Revolution as a backdrop to question politics and religion that are common in both authors' works. The comical elements might be missing in Blixen’s “Gothic Tales�, but the subtle mocking and the daring ambiguity makes up for the bleakness that pervades in the stories.
Thanks for allowing me to revisit this classic with you, Steve. I remember having the most pleasant of surprises with the last chapters of this classic, which caught me unguarded and had me sitting on the edge of my sofa, stunned and moved, until I turned the last page. Maybe something similar might happen with Blixten, her light might still be bound to glow for me, so I shall keep plowing through her tales of distorted, dark masquerades and (view spoiler)


Dolors Seemita wrote: "And here it is! I had been waiting for your review of this work for darn long, Dolors! And now that its here, it unsettles me in its vast angles and measures. Appearing at once like a whole world o..."

Dearest Seemita! I needed the extra push of another writer (Dinesen in this case) to finally polish the rough draft that I had written for Stendhal’s novel some months ago, but I don’t think I would have managed to wrap it all together hadn’t it been for your constant encouragement, my dear friend!
There is much you might appreciate of Stendhal’s hybrid style, for there is a bit of the skeptic and a bit of the romantic in his main character, calling for the period of upheaval and unrest of the July French Revolution. Times were changing and the preeminence of the aristocracy and the clergy was in fast decline, anticipating a “fin de siècle�. Stendhal blends historical fiction with the classic existentialist novel and makes it an entertaining, juicy read that will have you turning pages like the most fast-paced thriller. Thanks for your validating nod and I hope you enjoy your date with Stendhal, he might be one of your tribe, Seemita! ;P


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Dolors Warwick wrote: "Nice summary, Dolors. Like others, I feel a need to go back to this…and as a fellow romantic I do sympathise with your interpretation of the ending :)"

Glad you enjoyed it, Warwick.
I intend to read more of his works, The Charterhouse of Parma goes next! :)


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Dolors Cristina wrote: "Uau!!! Clàssic pendent per a mi :S. Una review fantàstica! Sense haver-lo llegit m'ha semblat una anàlisi molt precisa del llibre. I he flipat amb l'ús del vocabulari en anglès, nena. Olé tu! Agafa..."

Moltes gràcies, Cris! És extrapolable a l'actualitat (totalment!) perquè Stendhal critica el sistema preestablert des de dins, utilitzant el punt de vista d'un jove que aspira a "promocionar" dins d'aquest mateix sistema deficient i corrupte. El que succeeix és que l'absurditat del dogma i l'ambició l'acaben comfrontant amb la seva pròpia humanitat, tot i el narcissisme i l'egoisme inherent en el seu caràcter. Recorda a Camus i a Sartre (heh, més aviat Stendhal segur que va influenciar el pensament d'ambdós filòsofs). Crec que Stendhal t'agradarà, Cris...i segur que tons pares el tenen...com tu has dit, és tot un clàssic! ;P
(vaig a treballar, que avui estic temptant la sort...)


Helle My French professor at uni raved about this novel years ago, but I felt it was just a bit above my linguistic capabilities to read it in French (and reading it in translation felt like cheating), so I never got around to it. With this review, you leave me little choice but to put in on my to-read list � and to get to it before long. Historical fiction blended with existentialist fiction? A protagonist who is despised by his family because he reads ‘too much�? Naturalism, romanticism and tragicomedy � with acerbic satire and wry humor? Well, bring it on, I say, bring it on. Thanks for this, Dolors. It spoke volumes to me.


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Himanshu So this looks like a mixture of all the intriguing themes that one would look for in a tome. Acerbic humor, complex human psyche, political undercurrent, philosophy, and many more. I've got to admit, the kind of character you have highlighted of Julian, is my least favorite. I always feel the urge of shouting some practical sense into their ears. Your review makes this book irresistible nonetheless. A gem once again.


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Cristina Dolors wrote: "Cristina wrote: "Uau!!! Clàssic pendent per a mi :S. Una review fantàstica! Sense haver-lo llegit m'ha semblat una anàlisi molt precisa del llibre. I he flipat amb l'ús del vocabulari en anglès, ne..."

què guai, m'agrada el tema i el personatge! I, a més, predecessor de l'existencialisme? Mooolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! I recomanat per l'Emilie!!!!!I sí, el llibre, el vaig mangar de ca mons pares fa temps i encara el tinc allà pendent esperant-me :S Sort que no s'empanen!!!!


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Praj What can I say of what can be called a near perfect literary push for me to once again read Stendhal and this time to its completion. Years ago, for some concrete personal reasons I had left this book midway and somehow never got to it. This book now is a sure game in the coming new year.

Is Julien a victim or the outrageous product of his time?
Intriguing as it sounds this sentence shall be the thematic core to my future readings of the said book. Thanks as always for this beautiful write-up, sweetie!


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Henry Avila Read this book and enjoyed, thanks for reminding me of it, Dolors , in your as usual terrific review. But I didn't like the main character, too slimy.


Dolors Helle wrote: "My French professor at uni raved about this novel years ago, but I felt it was just a bit above my linguistic capabilities to read it in French (and reading it in translation felt like cheating), s..."

I am glad the review reawakened your interest in this book, Helle. I remember the incredible evolution the character experimented throughout the story and how it matched my consideration of his gullible personality. Stendhal's portrait is subversive because he presents his hero as a deeply flawed human being and the reader follows his successes and disappointments from the vantage point of his inner conscience chronicled by an omniscient narrator, who seems to be the same Stendhal playfully anticipating the action in a ground-breaking exercise of meta-literature.
The last chapters were a tour the force for me, and so I don't hesitate to reinforce the indirect recommendation the review has brought up. Thanks a bunch for reading and for your enthusiastic response!:)


Dolors Himanshu wrote: "So this looks like a mixture of all the intriguing themes that one would look for in a tome. Acerbic humor, complex human psyche, political undercurrent, philosophy, and many more. I've got to admi..."

You summarize the traits of the novel better than I did in my meandering review, Himanshu! Plus, you also caught on the note of Julien's foibles, which made him irksome most of the time but also highly realistic in the blatant honesty of his egocentric nature. Thanks once more for highlighting the aspects I made an effort to convey and add some more light into them with your insightful remarks, my friend.


Dolors Cristina wrote: "Dolors wrote: "Cristina wrote: "Uau!!! Clàssic pendent per a mi :S. Una review fantàstica! Sense haver-lo llegit m'ha semblat una anàlisi molt precisa del llibre. I he flipat amb l'ús del vocabular..."

Heh...entre Proust i Stendhal tindràs un inici del 2016 ben franchute... I més si afegeixes a la De Beauvoir!! Ja està bé, no? Una mica de pensament subversiu és necessari per combatre la trista realitat que vivim dia a dia... *deep sigh*


Dolors Praj wrote: "What can I say of what can be called a near perfect literary push for me to once again read Stendhal and this time to its completion. Years ago, for some concrete personal reasons I had left this b..."

Thanks to you for taking the time to read my musings over this novel and to leave me one of your revitalizing comments, dearest Praj. I could give you a number of classic titles that didn't resonate with me for various reasons at the time I tackled them (Navokov and H.James to name a pair of famous authors), which I have been meaning to re-read for ages.
Whether you decide to revisit Stendhal's epic or not, I bask in the vibe you've caught from my review and I know you would commiserate with the flawed nature of a very humane (yet quite despicable at times!) character. Stendhal was brilliant in depicting the best and the worst of mankind and do so with humor and depth, which lead me to believe you would appreciate his works. Thanks again for gifting me with your so acutely missed presence (and melodious prose!), I hope everything is alright at your end, Praj.


Dolors Henry wrote: "Read this book and enjoyed, thanks for reminding me of it, Dolors , in your as usual terrific review. But I didn't like the main character, too slimy."

Yes, Julien was slimy, and egocentric, deceitful and irritating...all that and much more, Henry. But he sort of redeemed himself in my eyes in the last untitled chapters, which was a bonus for me and raised my appreciation for this book. Thanks for reading!


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A good summary and a great dissection of themes, Dolors. That is a rather strong mix of themes. I'll probably be reading it in a few months time and your review is a timely introduction.


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Cheryl "He treats his masters with proud dignity to hide his sense of inferiority, he falls in love with the idea of seducing women of noble descend to cover his need for validation, he conceals his vulnerabilities and cheats himself with delusions of grandeur, and so his moods fluctuate between his artificial objectives and his true feelings, cleaving him in two."

What masterful delivery of characterization, dear Dol. I'm glad I didn't miss this, especially since I haven't been able to be as frequent on GR as I'd like to be. Keep putting these enlightening reviews out, will you? :)


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Billy O'Callaghan This is a superbly written and conceived review, Dolors. Stendhal is one of those writers I've thought about reading without ever really wanting to do so. Your beautiful words have changed that, and I am adding this one to my Amazon basket right now!


Dolors Sidharth wrote: "A good summary and a great dissection of themes, Dolors. That is a rather strong mix of themes. I'll probably be reading it in a few months time and your review is a timely introduction."

Thanks a bunch, Sidharth. Stendhal surprised me positively because he seemed to amalgamate the Romanticism of writers such as V. Hugo and the sardonic Naturalism of Flaubert or Zola. I can only wait for your intake on his works and hope that you respond to it as much as I did!


Dolors Cheryl wrote: ""He treats his masters with proud dignity to hide his sense of inferiority, he falls in love with the idea of seducing women of noble descend to cover his need for validation, he conceals his vulne..."

Cheryl, I have noticed that you are more absent these days and, as you know, both your reviews and your presence are terrible missed around here... so my gratefulness for you to spend the little free time that you have to read and write a kind remark on this review is more heartfelt than ever. Grinning back at you from wintry Barcelona with the hope that you will soon return to share what literary gems you've been following the thread of lately with us! :)


Dolors Billy wrote: "This is a superbly written and conceived review, Dolors. Stendhal is one of those writers I've thought about reading without ever really wanting to do so. Your beautiful words have changed that, an..."

Glad that we can exchange direct and indirect recommendations, Billy! This is my first work by Stendhal, but I sure intend to continue exploring his double-edged, hybrid style. As usual, I will be following the direction of your reads and I bet we will cross literary paths at some moment or another. Thanks for stopping by and for jumping ahead with Stendhal. I hope you won't get too irritated with poor Julien, just hang in there long enough to give him a chance to redeem himself! ;P


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· Oh yes, that ambiguity! And can't Julien be seen as both, both at the same time, both cynical and naive? Both calculating and duped? Aaaaah.


Dolors ·· wrote: "Oh yes, that ambiguity! And can't Julien be seen as both, both at the same time, both cynical and naive? Both calculating and duped? Aaaaah."

Heh, the funny things is that he IS both at once, Karen! I am actually turned around by Blixen's "Gothic Tales", where all characters seem to suffer the same affliction than Julien; that of their masks becoming truer than their original faces!


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Nicole~ Beautiful analysis, Dolors. I've only read Charterhouse of Parma but your tantalizing review proves how much I am missing by not yet opening The Red and The Black.


Dolors Nicole~ wrote: "Beautiful analysis, Dolors. I've only read Charterhouse of Parma but your tantalizing review proves how much I am missing by not yet opening The Red and The Black."

Our situation is reversed, Nicole, for I still have to read "Chaterhouse of Parma" and I was positively surprised by "The Red and The Black", which in turns is a great backdrop for Blixen's Seven Gothic Tales, which I am currently reading. Talking about stories within stories, right? Thanks for your kind comment!


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Dolors Desislava wrote: "This review is absolutely poetic, you have a wonderful way with words, Dolors!

You left me wanting, this sounds like a fascinating story. Another one in my TBR."


Thanks a bunch for your kind words, Desislava, my friend. I just read your review on A Hero of Our Time and was strongly reminded of Julien, another mythical "antihero of our time"! ;P


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Deea What actions people are capable of in order to quench their thirst for validation! You put it so well in the following fragment:

...he falls in love with the idea of seducing women of noble descend to cover his need for validation...

When I hear of the construction "need for validation", I somehow think of Facebook and of those people who are obsessed with posting selfies every single day. Plus, there is a new invention: selfie-sticks: they are available in all the touristic places and I've grown so annoyed with them. I've just come back from a holiday and the fact that they were everywhere sort of annoyed me.

Really good review Dolors! I've always wondered what this book was about (I've only read "Monastery Or Parma" by Stendhal), but somehow, I've always avoided it. There is some sort of pressure I feel when reading classics who everybody else has read and considered masterpieces and sometimes, because I set my expectations too high, I end up disappointed. So, in case I don't get to read it, at least I've discovered through your review what it was about.


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Dolors Deea wrote: "What actions people are capable of in order to quench their thirst for validation! You put it so well in the following fragment:

...he falls in love with the idea of seducing women of noble descen..."


Hi Deea, and welcome back! I hope you enjoyed your trip whatever your destination was. Oh yes, the selfie-sticks (all of a sudden, one finds all sort of improvized vendors selling them in all touristic areas), they are the culmination of the narcissistic tendency to appear in every shot as if we had to broadcast our life experiences to the world, which is, as you say, simply another form of seeking for validation.
I simply love the modern connection you have drawn to Julien's egocentric nature and I can easily imagine a contemporary anti-hero that would act very similarly to Stendhal's suspicious protagonist... there might be material in there to write a short story, wouldn't it be funny that Stendhal's classic might serve you as inspiration without actually having read it? One never knows, Deea, you might feel the pull of pen and paper to write a funny anecdote including selfie-sticks, a book (that's indispensable for any trip!), a pre-christmassy atmosphere and an exotic location! :))
Thanks for reading and as always, for giving me the present of one of your fresh, thought-provocative comments.


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Ilse Again such a fine and stimulating review, Dolors. I admire the way you tease us by drawing the ambiguity of the character and the acts of the protagonist, without giving away anything. Your musings on Julien’s personality and the loss of one’s bearings climbing the social ladder reminded me very much of Lucien, the protagonist of Balzac’s Lost Illusions. I had a avid French reading period that lasted for years (Proust, Balzac, Flaubert, Maupassant etc), skipping Stendhal, hesitating what to read first, this one, or Lucien Leuwen, or La Chartreuse, or De l’Amour, when a dear friend told me The Red and the Black is such a ‘weird� book, he had to start reading it over 3 times� Reading your alluring review, I think it is a huge mistake neglecting him any longer. OMG, I will never manage to read some more English classics, eternally sticking to France and Russia :)


Dolors Ilse wrote: "Again such a fine and stimulating review, Dolors. I admire the way you tease us by drawing the ambiguity of the character and the acts of the protagonist, without giving away anything. Your musings..."

Thanks so much Ilse for your interesting comment above. Comparing the French writers you listed with Stendhal, I can somehow back up your friend's use of the adjective "weird" to describe "The Red and The Black". This is a most unusual book because it blends historical fiction with naturalism, romanticism and a bit of the sardonic humor of the posterior existentialists. The evolution of the anti-hero matches the progressively serious tone of the novel, which starts as a social pastiche and ends up becoming an existentialist classic right and through.
I intend to continuing exploring the French writers, but there should also be time to meet with Chekov, Gogol and some more works by Tolstoy next year, as I feel I have neglected the Russians of late. I can barely wait for 2016 if the new year will bring such literary rides for me! ;P


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Samadrita Just when I thought you couldn't draw Julien's portrait in a more intriguing way you go ahead and say -
"Julien’s actions in society don’t correspond to his personal views and so he passes through life in a constant performance."

My acquaintance with French literature has been so limited (actually make that near non-existent) that I possess no distinction to comment on this review. I can only attest to your writing prowess and the confident but sure-footed way you unveil Julien's many masks to speculate on his true nature in the end. This is on the tbr and I hope to get to it this year.
The erudition and eloquence of your writing keep touching new heights of excellence, my friend.


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Dolors Samadrita wrote: "Just when I thought you couldn't draw Julien's portrait in a more intriguing way you go ahead and say -
"Julien’s actions in society don’t correspond to his personal views and so he passes through ..."


I respond to your treasure of a comment with a bit of delay, but with a pulsating, warm heart, Sama. Oh, the joy of having you back! (I am not used to the thrill of having you around again, my friend)
You know I find it almost impossible to disagree with you about anything, but there is always a first time, and it might be now. Because I believe you are perfectly equipped to judge, comment, deconstruct and contribute into any discussion, bookish or not, as you have proven repeated times in countless discussion threads, Sama. So, I will just wait patiently for you to read Stendhal and to get enlightened by your perspective on Julien, the historical frame of his life story and the style (and possible intents) of his creator. Thanks once again (a thousand thanks!) for being here and for your steady, invaluable friendship and may 2016 bring many Sama-reviews to bask in! :)


Dolors Sabah wrote: "Dolors, the protagonist reads much like a psychopath, mirroring his emotions, his actions, his allegiances to fit the politics, people and pleasures whose swirling tides he's swimming within. You m..."

Heh, you dispel the romanticism of my angle with deft insight, Sabah. The thing is that Julien is as much a product of his society as Lily Bart. Knowing how well you understood her plight, I believe there might still be a chance for the egocentric anti-hero to warm your heart... He will put your neurons to work if nothing else at least! ;P


Markus Hi Dolors, I also read this book very recently, if this is for Skeptics and Believers, then I am a Believer, I was not so much moved by the historical political and religious surrounding, which was for me only the background, but rather by the two love stories, I am a romantic and I love this book for the romantic side of it.


Dolors Markus wrote: "Hi Dolors, I also read this book very recently, if this is for Skeptics and Believers, then I am a Believer, I was not so much moved by the historical political and religious surrounding, which was..."

What a lovely, insightful comment, Markus. I have to confess I couldn't empathize with Julien's attitude towards women and how he treated them as mere objects to fit in his machinations to achieve social success, which I esteemed was Stendhal's way of subtly criticizing the Romantics; but I completely agree that the story takes an unpredictable turn in the last chapters and there is space to interpret the whole narration as a convoluted love story that mirrors the complexities of human nature.


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