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The Crimson Petal and the White by Michel Faber
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it was amazing
bookshelves: modernvictorian, novels

You know in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind they've invented this brilliant device for erasing specific memories and the whole plot revolves around people who meet each other after they've had their memories of each other already erased, so they re-meet and re-love and it's all poignant and kind of whoah and oops I kind of gave the plot away - well, you should have seen it by now, come on, it's years old. Anyway, I'd love that particular invention to be true true true so that I could hustle down to the memory doctor's office and after having ALL of my romantic entanglements DELETED from my brain, obviously that would be the very first thing to do, then I'd present the doctor with a list of books to delete; and The Crimson Petal and the White would be right there in that little list, and it would, of course, be just so that I could have the pure unsullied delectable pleasure of reading it for the first time - again.

This is such a corking good page turner like if some giant Dickens and The Quincunx and The Worm in the Bud (great book about the Victorian sexual underworld) and some other stuff were shoved in the blender and then written up by a guy who really knows what he's doing.

Now, the ENDING of this huge novel was criticised greatly as being NOT AN ENDING at all but merely a dribbling away. So please note that there is a book called THE APPLE which is short stories accounting for the rest of all the characters' lives, and that's great and essential too.

I envy you people who have not read this.

And I'd also ask for my memory of Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind to be deleted too, that would just be a little bit of post modern humour to share with the memory doctor. Oh, and the memory of writing this review.
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September 27, 2007 – Shelved
September 27, 2007 – Shelved as: modernvictorian
December 14, 2007 – Shelved as: novels

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message 1: by Ian (new) - added it

Ian "Marvin" Graye And the memory of reading your review.
I haven't read this book yet. At least, I don't remember reading it.


[Name Redacted] I paid attention to this because the title is a Tennyson reference.


Cecily If it's as good as you say, I may come back to ask if you've found the memory doctor (I have just started reading it, though it may take a while, as Christmas is busy).


message 4: by Ian (new) - added it

Ian "Marvin" Graye I'm sure I remember liking your review once before, but it didn't show up, so I've liked it again.

You owe me a like.


Paul Bryant Sorry, I had forgotten...


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Ian "Marvin" Graye Ian wrote: "I paid attention to this because the title is a Tennyson reference."

In my town, we don't have a Tennyson reference, but we do have a Tennyson Tennis Centre:



I lobbied to get them to call it the Tennysontre. Unsuccessfully.

Cross my heart and hope to die, I was involved in a previous proposal to convert this site into a film and television studio. Unsuccessfully.


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Ian "Marvin" Graye Paul wrote: "Sorry, I had forgotten..."

Ha, sorry, I've forgotten what comes after the "ha".


Laura this review made me laugh :D thanks for that! I guess you envy me now.


Paul Bryant thanks. I do!


Laura OK, well I'll be reading this this year (I hope!) So then I'll be in the not-envied pile once again. I'm enjoying following your reviews. Trying to clean out a TBR that's got way out of control, and your thoughts are helping, so my thanks.


message 11: by Paul (new) - rated it 5 stars

Paul Bryant I know about the TBR problem. I got 3 books for Xmas, every one over 500 pages. Aargh.


Laura You must be a fast reader though! My TBR was over 1200 when I started, and your reviews seem to be on a great many of them. How many do you read a year, roughly?


message 13: by Paul (new) - rated it 5 stars

Paul Bryant With goodreads help (they do yearly stats for everyone), I know the answer to that - it's approx 22 novels a year and 30-40 sundry other books. But actually I don't think I am a fast reader. It just took me about three weeks to get through a biography of Malcolm X.


Laura That's a fair amount of reading though. We must have fairly similar taste, because your name keeps popping up as I weed out my TBR.


message 15: by Paul (new) - rated it 5 stars

Paul Bryant in which case we should be friends... I've send a request.


Laura accepted!


message 17: by Ian (new) - added it

Ian "Marvin" Graye Jesse wrote: "A someone who lives in your town, Ian, I will join you in lobbying to change the name of the Tennis Centre. We need this."

Excellent, Jesse, we need a t-shirt and a poster immediately ;)


message 18: by Paul (new) - rated it 5 stars

Paul Bryant I just got in to work and checked GR before I started and well, thanks for your comments, I will tackle those medical databases with gusto now...!


Steve Please accept my sincerest gratitude, Paul. On the strength of this wonderful review, I finally picked this bad boy up and am enjoying it immensely. It's incredible how little plot is necessary to keep a reader riveted. The character profiles, the research into the times, and the writing itself -- it all makes for a great reading experience. Thank you for opening our eyes to it.


message 20: by Paul (new) - rated it 5 stars

Paul Bryant it's my pleasure - I clink a glass in your virtual direction.


message 21: by Cecily (last edited Dec 20, 2012 12:54AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cecily Steve, it was largely because of reviews like this that I read this book, and I rated it 5*. (Unfortunately, the follow-up book of short stories, The Apple, was not as good, imo.)


message 22: by Paul (new) - rated it 5 stars

Paul Bryant no, not as good, more like notes on the later lives of the characters - I think he wrote it because people nagged him about the non-ending of the novel, so I take it in the spirit of "additional notes which solve many mysteries".


Steve I'm mentally prepared for a lack of resolution. Looks like some recommend skipping The Apple altogether, though I'm sure I'll be tempted. (Am I to be Eve in this scenario?)


Cecily I wouldn't recommend any fan of TCP to read The Apple (nor would I recommend it to anyone who hadn't read TCP). I like the ambiguity of the original, but for those who want resolutions, The Apple gives few.

However, were I in your position, Steve, I'd be Eve. At least your expectations will be lower than mine were.


Alice It's years later and I still wish I could read "The Crimson Petal and the White" again for the first time!


message 26: by Paul (new) - rated it 5 stars

Paul Bryant yeah, absolutely


message 27: by Molly (last edited Jun 03, 2017 08:41PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Molly I just basically did this--picked up this book 14 years after my initial read. I remembered adoring it the first time, but little more. It was just like reading it again for the first time, since I don't have a great memory (something that, until now, I hadn't considered a benefit!). What a delight it was to re-encounter for the first time!


message 28: by Paul (new) - rated it 5 stars

Paul Bryant ha, maybe that will happen to me too...


Rhonda Well I have read this book many years ago and remember I loved it. Age is affecting my memory so I’m hoping when I read it AGAIN it will be as if I’m reading it for the first time, as you mentioned! Also, I’m getting the follow up The Apple to read immediately after


message 30: by Paul (new) - rated it 5 stars

Paul Bryant yes, The Apple is essential. The arrogance of this author, writing a 1000 page novel and not botheringing to give it an ending!


Cecily Paul wrote: "yes, The Apple is essential. The arrogance of this author, writing a 1000 page novel and not botheringing to give it an ending!"

Noooo. The Apple ruins this book!


message 32: by Paul (new) - rated it 5 stars

Paul Bryant you like your loose ends to dangle, then!


Cecily Paul wrote: "you like your loose ends to dangle, then!"

Almost always, yes. Ambiguity makes it more interesting and it makes the relationship between author and writer more creative.


message 34: by Gaurav (new) - added it

Gaurav Lovely review, Paul, one that is full of wits. I came across the author earlier too but haven't really given him a serious thought. But your fine review here convinced me this time to add it and obviously, I've to forget about this review too :)


message 35: by Adnamy (new) - added it

Adnamy This is hilarious- I want to read this hitherto unknown book to me


message 36: by Evan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Evan Hammerman Glad to see I am not the only person to have read “The Quincunx�.


Jessiclees I’ve just started reading it for the first time today�


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