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Barnaby Rudge, A Tale of the Riots of 'Eighty I by Charles Dickens
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Read 4 times. Last read January 18, 2015 to February 9, 2015.

In most surveys Barnaby Rudge comes out as the least read of all Dickens's novels. Yet his only other historical novel, "A Tale of Two Cities", is one of his most popular. His penultimate novel, it was written 18 years later, and has a very different tone with little humour. But Dickens's classic wit, his irony and eye for the absurd are what many people love about his writing. And Barnaby Rudge has these in abundance. So it is all the more puzzling that it is read so infrequently.

The scenes where Gabriel Varden's hypocritical and supposedly long-suffering martyr of a wife is aided and abetted by their sly, vituperous servant Miggs against the exasperated locksmith, are some of the funniest anywhere in Dickens, who says her moodiness could be the result of being spoiled by wealth,

"Mrs Varden expressed her belief that never was any woman so beset as she; that her life was a continued scene of trial; that whenever she was disposed to be well and cheerful, so sure were the people around her to throw, by some means or other, a damp upon her spirits; and that, as she had enjoyed herself that day, and Heaven knew it was very seldom she did enjoy herself so she was now to pay the penalty."

Their preening peacock of an apprentice Sim Tappertit, complete with his powerful eye and his beautiful legs, (though very short) comes a very close second. He is the "noble captain" and leader of a risible secret society of 'Prentice Knights. Yet everyone knows what a prize idiot he really is, as the blind man Stagg remarks as an aside,

"Good luck go with you for a - conceited, bragging, empty-headed, duck-legged idiot"

The ponderous publican Joe Willett, with his slow-witted homespun philosophies is an easy third, ruminating,

"According to the constitution of mermaids, so much of a mermaid as is not a woman must be a fish"

So many characters in this novel make us smile with their eccentricities; easily as many as in any of his novels to date. Barnaby Rudge: A Tale of the Riots of Eighty was intended to be his first serious work of literature, inspired by Sir Walter Scott's historical novels, such as The Waverley Novels, and "Ivanhoe". Yet Dickens just could not resist creating these absurd characters whom his readers chuckle over and love so much. The most unusual "character" is Grip - and he is certainly a character, although he also happens to be Barnaby Rudge's pet raven! He is self-willed, displays eccentric behaviour, and has learned a whole catalogue of phrases, his favourite being a variety of ways of saying, "Polly Put the Kettle On". He is a gift of a character to an absurdist like Dickens. The reader may well find themselves laughing out loud at the inappropriate contributions Grip makes.

It is not surprising that Dickens shows a keen eye for observing the raven's behaviour. He explains in his preface that Grip is based on a pet raven he himself had had, called Grip. It wasn't his first, but it was the one he loved most. His own raven died in March 1841 - ironically and sadly in the middle of Dickens writing this novel - from eating lead chips. Dickens had it stuffed, copying George IV who had had his pet giraffe stuffed. It is still on public view, incidentally, in a museum in Philadelphia. Grip was also the inspiration for Edgar Allan Poe's most famous poem, "The Raven". Poe admired Dickens, and paid tribute to Grip in a review of Barnaby Rudge which he wrote for a magazine, saying that the raven should have served "a more symbolic prophetic purpose".

This is Dickens's fifth novel, written when he was 29 years of age, and published in weekly instalments between February and November 1841. By now he had become everybody's darling, with a public dinner being held in his honour in Edinburgh. He had originally signed a contract in 1836 to write a book entitled "Gabriel Varden - The Locksmith of London", for "Bentley's Miscellany" but after becoming more successful, and falling out with Bentley, he bought back the contract and the novel was subsequently published by Chapman and Hall in "Master Humphrey's Clock", and illustrated by two of his regular favourites, Phiz and George Cattermole. Many of his letters to these two artists survive, and it is remarkable how extraordinarily detailed and specific the descriptions are, for the engravings Dickens wished the artists to make. He evidently had a mental picture of a scene as it might be enacted on stage, and made sure he stayed in charge of the creative process for every single step of the way - including each illustration. A hard task-master indeed.

The first half of the novel is set in the time leading up to the Gordon Riots in London in 1780. 1778 saw the Catholic Relief Act, allowing Roman Catholics to own property, inherit land, and join the army, all of which had been formerly forbidden to them. They also became able to vote if they owned land. This is the underlying scenario to the novel; the times were wrought with tensions and uncertainty.

The novel starts in the "Maypole Inn" in Chigwell, in an area of Essex notorious for its highwaymen,

"The Maypole was an old building, with more gable ends than a man would care to count on a sunny day. ... It was a hale and hearty age though, still: and in the summer or autumn evenings, when the glow of the setting sun fell upon the oak and chestnut trees of the adjacent forest, the old house, partaking of its lustre, seemed their fit companion, and to have many good years of life in him yet."

Interestingly this pub, of the first illustration, still stands today. Built in 1547, it is one of the oldest public houses in England, just a few miles down the road from this reviewer.

It is this first half which is so entertaining in true Dickensian fashion. But the description above belies the dark, brooding atmosphere conjured up. Right at the start we have an unresolved mystery. It is a grisly and ghostly tale; a long involved story of murder and intrigue, told by by Dickens's mouthpiece, old Solomon Daisy. This character is well-named to give the reader a clear indication of the foreboding in this novel, describing as he does the "Solemn Day" of the double murder. Enticingly he says,

"I have heard it said that as we keep our birthdays when we are alive, so the ghosts of dead people, who are not easy in their graves, keep the day they died upon"

Solomon Daisy is one of a group of eccentric old-timers clustered round the Maypole's pub fire in the depths of Winter. These scenes are steeped in atmosphere; a cold, dark winter's evening, a group of locals enjoying a glass of punch, listening to tall stories accompanied by the crackle of the fire, and watching the smoke curling upwards from their long-stemmed pipes. Dickens conjures up a feeling of sitting right there with the characters. Among this group's cosy spot amidst the mists and unknown terrors outside, a mysterious traveller arrives, followed by another more threatening stranger, who is also shrouded in mystery.

This is followed by invigorating horsechases in the pitch black across the treacherous highwayman-infested wilds of Essex. There is an attack, a young gentleman set upon in the dark by unknown foes. Throughout permeates a feeling of unease and change, a brewing of disturbance, brimming just under the surface.

There are also various tensions between fathers and sons, employers and workers. One concerns two feuding families, the Chesters and the Haredales, who are reminiscent of Shakespeare's Montagues and Capulets. The suave, charming snake, Sir Edward Chester, is a Protestant. Despite his dissimulation he is ruthlessly manipulative; both his physical appearance, expressive language and behaviour all providing a contrast to the the bluff impatient Haredale, who is a Catholic. Friction sparks. But is the deep enmity really a result of religious differences? Or is there also an underlying sinister element? Their enmity dates from childhood. We are beginning to see that many events from the past may haunt this novel.

Interestingly, Edward Chester is based on Philip Dormer Stanhope, the 4th Earl of Chesterfield, whose complimenting manners, urbanity, and witticisms were highly regarded. But he made an enemy of Samuel Johnson (of the dictionary) who described Lord Chesterfield's published letters to his son as,

"selfish, calculating and contemptuous; he was not naturally generous, and he practised dissimulation until it became part of his nature ... they teach the morals of a whore, and the manners of a dancing-master"

Dickens's character Edward Chester himself quotes from Lord Chesterfield's letters. Dickens describes him as,

"of the world most worldly, who never compromised himself by an ungentlemanly action and was never guilty of a manly one"

As well as the tension between families, we have many episodes of comic domestic disharmony, and budding romances. There is Dolly Varden, a vain coquette of a minx, with whom Dickens was clearly besotted! When ostensibly comforting her friend Emma Haredale,

"Dolly's eyes, by one of those strange accidents for which there is no accounting, wandered to the glass again" ...

"To make one's sweetheart miserable is well enough and quite right, but to be made miserable one's self is a little too much!"


Dickens shows us he has a keen eye for the folly and the vanity of youth. Yet the reader now fully expects that love will not run smoothly. In Dickens there is never any moral ambiguity. Characters either develop and learn from their mistakes, or they do not. And those who do not will usually meet a sorry end, or their just desserts, in one way or another.

By the middle of the novel the reader may well be puzzled as to its name. There is a multilayered medley of themes, yet the title's subheading, "A Tale of the Riots of Eighty" seems to be inexplicable. And the character of Barnaby Rudge pops in and out of the story seemingly on a whim. This is not a bildungsroman in any sense, neither is it picaresque. It does not even proceed in a similar vein to that of the history of Oliver Twist or Nicholas Nickleby. Barnaby Rudge is a simple soul, often referred to by himself as "silly" and by his neighbours, though kindly, as an idiot. He loves Nature, has a close relationship with his raven, and has dreams of making his fortune to help his mother. We suspect a back history with Barnaby, and we are not disappointed.

There is a change of direction in the second half, and Barnaby becomes involved with a new set of characters. There is Lord George Gordon, who is presented here as a well-meaning but deluded fool, goaded by his dubious henchmen into increasingly bold measures leading the Protestant Association, and openly opposing the Catholic Relief Act, demanding its withdrawal. The villain of the piece is his secretary, the cold, calculating and conniving Gashford, whom Dickens unequivocally describes as,

"singularly repulsive and malicious"

He is based on Robert Watson, a real life friend of Gordon, who wrote a history of the Riots in 1795. Later Robert Watson committed suicide and about nineteen scars were found on his body. This is believed to be the reason why Dickens called his character "Gashford".

In the novel, Gashford muses,

"More seed, more seed ... When will the harvest come?"

as he plots and casts his net to entrap more supporters to the Protestant Cause, and hence more victims. He deliberately incites rioting and rebel-rousing, and his advice to Lord George Gordon is always intended to cause as much chaos, brutality and disturbance as possible. Another evil character who does not have the ability to employ such machinations is the self-seeking hangman Dennis. The solid John Grueby seems to be Gordon's only true friend. He is loyal to his master, and basically a good-hearted man, but he abhors the violence he can see resulting from the situation Gordon has allowed himself to be duped into. The reader too, knows from the start that events are going to escalate terrifyingly. There is betrayal, duplicity and changing of sides; an increase in the tension and a definite switch in the writing of this second half, much of which is very savage.

References are made to "Bloody Mary", the daughter of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon, who had briefly reigned as Mary I from 1553-1558. During this time she had tried to re-establish the the Catholic faith of her mother, often by barbaric means, hence her name. The atrocities committed against Protestants during her reign became a rallying cry of the Protestant mob during the Gordon Riots. On June 2, 1780 the Protestant Association marched to the House of Commons and were joined by a riotous mob of 50,000. Dickens described them as,

"sprinkled doubtless here and there with honest zealots, but composed for the most part of the very scum and refuse of London"

He describes in great detail how the crowd were whipped up into a frenzy. His descriptions are incredibly powerful and visual, some parts having the graphic and explicit detail to make the reader's hair stand on end, being more usually found in a horror novel than a classic by Dickens. The tension and horror build relentlessly.

In real life for the next few days the mob terrorized London, burning Catholic churches, and the businesses and homes of Catholic families. Dickens describes all the events; how they burned down Newgate Prison, The Fleet, and King's Bench Prisons. He describes the terror of the prisoners, the deaths of innocent bystanders, how everyone was inadvertently caught up in the deathly smoke, the fire and the rabble, and how the prisoners - some incarcerated for negligible crimes - were set free, running amok without hope, bewildered, confused, damaged and burnt, with nowhere to run to,

"There were some broken men among these debtors who had been in jail so long, and were so miserable and destitute of friends, so dead to the world, and utterly forgotten and uncared for, that they implored their jailers not to set them free"

The Lord Mayor, whom Dickens based on Brackley Kennett, Lord Mayor of London from 1779-1780, did nothing when appealed to by characters in the novel. In real life Kennett was later convicted of criminal negligence for his conduct during the Riots. They then appeal to the magistrate Sir John Fielding, who was the younger half-brother of the novelist Henry Fielding. Both brothers worked towards criminal reform and John Fielding, who was blind and earned the nickname of "The Blind Beak" was the founder of the "Bow Street Runners" first police force.

Nevertheless, Dickens had a clear grasp of mob mentality,

"The crowd was the law and never was the law held in greater dread, or more implicitly obeyed."

Eventually George III ordered his troops to quell the riots. The mob was read the Riot Act; an Act of Parliament from 1714, which forced riotous crowds to disperse within one hour after the reading of the Act, or risk being shot. In actuality nearly 300 rioters were killed, and 450 were taken prisoner. 25 were hanged. Lord George Gordon, held in the Tower of London, was tried and found not guilty of treason.

The reader follows the progress of Barnaby Rudge, who has been caught up in the riots, and Hugh the Hostler from the Maypole Inn. Hugh was based on the real life James Jackson, who was a watch-wheel cutter and according to reports of the time, a "very desperate fellow" whose voice "boomed like the crack of doom". In the novel he is angling for any trouble, in one scene not even getting the anti-Catholic slogan "No Popery!" right, shouting "No Property!"

We read with horror as some of the pleasant pastoral scenes in the beginning of the novel are wrecked, and amiable characters savagely treated, never to return to their old trusting ways. In the end Dickens makes sure that those who have perpetrated evil acts get their comeuppance, and their punishment is largely commensurate with the enormity of their crime. Some are hanged. Others, whose crime was lesser, are given a lesser punishment, such as (view spoiler)

Towards the end of Barnaby Rudge Dickens describes the public executions of characters in the book, which were performed at Newgate prison. Dickens hated such public displays, intended to be an extra deterrent to crime, but often taking on a circus atmosphere. He had reported his reaction to an execution in 1849 in a letter to "The Times". Writing these parts, Dickens had been in Broadstairs for two months, but by October he was having painful surgery for a fistula, and having to convalesce for a month. Nevertheless his biographer John Forster notes that Dickens was determined to complete the novel in the expected time.

So why the change of name from "Gabriel Varden - The Locksmith of London"? Gabriel Varden is without doubt a stalwart character, worthy of being the novel's hero in preference to the whimsical portrait of Barnaby Rudge. He is more in evidence throughout the novel, rather than disappearing for long stretches. But by retitling the novel, rather than including any more scenes about him Dickens has made his readers focus more on Barnaby Rudge. And the choice of a simple-minded man for his focus character is inspired.

It points up the ridiculousness of the situation itself. Not only has Lord George Gordon, the deranged leader of the rioters, been sadly misinformed by his henchmen, but (view spoiler) make the reader want to weep for the deliberate manipulation and contrived destruction of such innocent joy in life. The descriptions of the riots are so powerful and intense. Yet his quirky humour is present too, in the detail; all the eccentric characters and environments. There is possibly no other author who can combine such opposing themes quite so well.

The Gordon Riots do not have a "hook" such as the infamy and grisly romance of the French Revolution, which could explain why this novel is so neglected. Dickens had not yet reached the pinnacle of his writing, and was yet to write his truly great novels. But this one has none of the hyperbole of the earlier ones. It is still exuberant and comic in places, but the posturing and sarcasm which sometimes seem almost overwhelming in early novels such as "Oliver Twist" are far less in evidence. It is altogether more controlled, better planned and consequently a more powerful piece.

And it is well worth reading!
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Reading Progress

Finished Reading (Kindle Edition)
Finished Reading
September 26, 2013 – Shelved
January 18, 2015 – Started Reading (Kindle Edition)
January 18, 2015 – Started Reading
January 19, 2015 –
0.0% "5%"
January 19, 2015 –
5.0% "from the Preface, "What we falsely call a religious cry is easily raised by men who have no religion, and in their daily practice set at nought the commonest principles of right and wrong ... it is begotten of intolerance and persecution ... it is senseless, besotted inveterate and unmerciful; all History teaches us.""
January 21, 2015 –
8.0% "Varden's home "It was a modest building, not very straight, not large, not tall; not bold faced, with great staring windows, but a shy, blinking house, with a conical roof going up into a peak over its garret window of four small panes of glass, like a cocked hat on the head of an elderly gentleman with one eye ... no one window matched the other, or seemed to have the slightest reference to anything besides itself.""
January 22, 2015 –
15.0% "Barnaby's sees Phantoms in the smoke ... "Where do they go to when they spring so fast up there," asked Barnaby; "eh? Why do they tread so closely on each other's heels, and why are they always in a hurry ... More of 'em! catching to each other's skirts; and as fast as they go, others come! What a merry dance it is! I would that Grip and I could frisk like that!""
January 25, 2015 –
34.0% "The room in which this group were now assembled - hard by the very chamber where the act was done - dull, dark, and sombre; heavy with worm-eaten books; deadened and shut in by faded hangings. muffling every sound; shadowed mournfully by trees whose rustling boughs gave ever and anon a spectral knocking at the glass; wore, beyond all others in the house, a ghostly, gloomy air."
January 29, 2015 –
54.0% ""there was a ... gloom and heaviness around, as though long imprisonment had made the very silence sad. The homely hangings of the beds and windows had begun to droop ... The boards creaked beneath their tread, as if resenting the unaccustomed intrusion; nimble spiders, paralysed by the taper's glare, checked the motion of their hundred legs upon the wall, or dropped like lifeless things upon the ground;"
January 31, 2015 –
65.0% "stimulated by their own headlong passions, by poverty, by ignorance, by the love of mischief ... a moral plague ran through the city. The noise, and hurry, and excitement, had for hundreds and hundreds an attraction they had no firmness to resist. The contagion spread like a dread fever: an infectious madness, as yet not near its height, seized on new victims every hour, and society began to tremble at their ravings."
February 7, 2015 –
85.0% "meant to throw the gates of bedlam open and let all the madmen loose...new fires blazed up in every quarter of the town...In two hours six-and-thirty fires were raging...the Borough Clink in Tooley-street, the King's Bench, the Fleet, and the New Bridewell...hot work and bloodshed in almost every thoroughfare...mad with liquor and excitement...hallooing them on like a demon...raging and roaring like the flames they"
February 9, 2015 – Finished Reading (Kindle Edition)
February 9, 2015 – Finished Reading
February 10, 2015 –
97.0%
February 10, 2015 –
97.0% "Miggs - one of the most venomous characters we encounter in Dickens ... "so oppressed with teeming spite and spleen, that she seemed fit to burst ... her vexation and chagrin being of that internally bitter sort which finds no relief in words, and is aggravated to madness by want of contradiction she could hold out no longer, and burst into a storm of sobs and tears." ...a ridiculous, manipulative destructive person"
December 30, 2015 – Shelved (Kindle Edition)

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message 1: by Bionic Jean (last edited Oct 08, 2020 11:17AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Bionic Jean Additional Quotation from chapter 68:

"But there was a worse spectacle than this - worse by far than fire and smoke, or even the rabble's unappeasable and maniac rage. The gutters of the street, and every crack and fissure in the stones, ran with scorching spirit, which being dammed up by busy hands, overflowed the road and pavement, and formed a great pool, into which the people dropped down dead by dozens. They lay in heaps all round this fearful pond, husbands and wives, fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, women with children in their arms and babies at their breasts, and drank until they died. While some stooped with their lips to the brink and never raised their heads again, others sprang up from their fiery draught, and danced, half in a mad triumph, and half in the agony of suffocation, until they fell, and steeped their corpses in the liquor that had killed them. Nor was even this the worst or most appalling kind of death that happened on this fatal night. From the burning cellars, where they drank out of hats, pails, buckets, tubs, and shoes, some men were drawn, alive, but all alight from head to foot; who, in their unendurable anguish and suffering, making for anything that had the look of water, rolled, hissing, in this hideous lake, and splashed up liquid fire which lapped in all it met with as it ran along the surface, and neither spared the living nor the dead."

* Please note, the ponderous publican referred to is John Willett. Joe Willet is his son. The ŷ program will not allow me to make this correction.


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Mona Excellent review, Jean, as usual.

I am putting this on my to-read list.

Thanks.


Bionic Jean Thank you Mona :) I hope you enjoy it!


Bionic Jean Fair comment, Chris! Although perhaps it is forgotten because a monarch was not deposed and executed. It never seemed to escalate into more than a local set of riots. We and many other countries do remember civil wars, after all.


message 5: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl Ah, imagine owning a pet raven... Great thoughts on a book rarely reviewed, Jean. I love visiting Dickens through you. Now if I can only carve out some mental space for going on the Dickens journey I promised myself...


Bionic Jean Thank you Cheryl! And I hope you do find time some day. I'm loving reading them all again - it feels so different now I'm approaching them in order. You can really see how he developed :)


Leslie Glad to see you liked this, despite your initial misgivings. Reading through your review, my attention was snagged by this:

"The first half of the novel is set in the time leading up to the Gordon Riots in London in 1780. 1778 saw the Catholic Relief Act, allowing Roman Catholics to own property, inherit land, and join the army, all of which had been formerly forbidden to them. They also became able to vote if they owned land. This is the underlying scenario to the novel; the times were wrought with tensions and uncertainty. "

I wonder whether the fact that the American colonies were 'in rebellion' had any role in the timing of the Gordon Riots, and indeed of the Catholic Relief Act itself. That time period did seem to be one in which people were more dissatisfied with the status quo and thus easier to rouse to riot or even civil war or revolution (as was seen in America and France).

Thanks too for all the info which real-life personages the characters were based on! I suppose I should have figured out Chester and Chesterfield but it never crossed my mind!


Bionic Jean Yes, I think you are definitely in the right area there, Leslie.

There were more real-life parallels - but I had to cut my review down to fit! And other things I would have liked to include, such as the character "Dolly Varden" giving rise to a particular sort of floral flouncy dress! And all the symbolism regarding the loss of limbs ...

This was my second reading of the book, but I enjoyed it far more this time :)


Hilary Beautifully written review, Jean! Thanks for jogging my memory on what a great book it is. :-)


Bionic Jean And thanks for all your comments in the threads, Hilary!


message 11: by John (new) - rated it 4 stars

John Frankham Great review as usual, Jean, enriching my thoughts of it. So glad it came out as a 4* when re-read.


Bionic Jean Definitely John! Maybe even a smidgen more ... and thanks :)


message 13: by Í (new)

Í What an astounding review. I feel a little more cultured from reading it!
You also write quite beautifully.


Bionic Jean Thank you very much Í! :)


John Anthony Superb review!


Bionic Jean Thank you very much John :)


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What to comment? Updating my to-be-read list :)


Bionic Jean Thank you very much Marita! I'm glad you enjoyed it :)


Bionic Jean Hi MravaWishes. I do hope you enjoy Barnaby Rudge when you get to read it :)


Marina I'm so glad this has somehow turned up on my feed. Especially as it sings the praises of one of my favourite Dickens novels. I'm not sure I understand its lack of popularity either. Wonderful review!


Bionic Jean Thank you so much Marina :)

I never quite understand all the mysterious workings of ŷ ... but I am pleased to meet you :)


message 22: by Leila (new) - added it

Leila This is one of Dickens' books I have never read Jean but after that fabulous review I really must get to it. I have the book on Kindle but I always prefer a paper back so counting my' pennies to purchase' Thank you as always for such an interesting description of the book.


Bionic Jean Leila wrote: "This is one of Dickens' books I have never read Jean but after that fabulous review I really must get to it. I have the book on Kindle but I always prefer a paper back so counting my' pennies to pu..."

Thank you Leila :) It is an exhilarating read, but there were parts I found extremely upsetting. I personally think it's his most violent and bloodthirsty in parts - but then there are the wonderful comic portrayals too! I wouldn't be without it, and really hope you can get to read it too :)


Petra is wondering when this dawn will beome day Great review. No need for me to read the book now :-)


Bionic Jean Petra-X wrote: "Great review. No need for me to read the book now :-)"

Er ... and yet I don't tell any of the story! (except for two bits under spoilers).

Thanks for reading and commenting on my review, Petra :)


message 26: by Jim (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jim Dooley When I prepared to read this Dickens novel, I was prepared to trudge my way through it. However, I was thoroughly engaged! The characters, the story, the flow of the pacing, and the inimitable style were all top notch. BARNABY RUDGE became one of my favorites. (I’ve since recommended it to several folks ... none of whom accepted the recommendation. **sigh**)


Bionic Jean Jim wrote: "When I prepared to read this Dickens novel, I was prepared to trudge my way through it. However, I was thoroughly engaged! ..."

I felt exactly the same way Jim, but found it incredibly powerful!


Գ-Իé You were right, I did enjoy your review. It reminded me what I liked about the book, we all tend to forget the details and remember only the general impression. My impression is I didn’t like like this as much as other Dickens, but saying that is still something.


Bionic Jean Գ-Իé wrote: "You were right, I did enjoy your review. It reminded me what I liked about the book, we all tend to forget the details and remember only the general impression. My impression is I didn’t like like ..."

Oh good, thanks for reading it Գ-Իé! It's a novel which meant more to me far more the second time I read it.


Nancy Boyd Loved this book! So many characters to love and hate. Complicated story and great descriptions of events. Not sure why is not liked better!


Bionic Jean Nancy wrote: "Loved this book! So many characters to love and hate. Complicated story and great descriptions of events. Not sure why is not liked better!"

I agree Nancy! It's just overshadowed by his other novels, I think.


message 32: by Tim (new)

Tim Preston I had no idea that Edgar Allen Poe's 'The Raven' was inspired by Grip the Raven in this novel. Thanks 'Bionic Jean' for that information.

As for the original of 'The Maypole Inn', kept by the Willets family in this novel, I regret that I have led such a dull life that I have never been to Chigwell and hence have never seen it.

However, when I looked for information about it on the internet a few years ago, my recollection is that Dickens used to stop there on his jaunts out of London, that it is actually called something like 'The King Charles's Arms' and is now, or was a few years ago, owned by Lord Sir Alan Sugar of television, and has been converted into a Turkish restaurant. Is that still the case and is it worth visiting?

I don't know what either Charles Dickens or old John Willets would have made of the Inn they knew becoming a Turkish restaurant, although they would probably both have enjoyed a charcoal grilled meat kebap.


message 33: by Bionic Jean (last edited Nov 14, 2024 03:52PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Bionic Jean Hi Tim - I'm so sorry I've seen this comment so belatedly! 🤔

Yes, sadly the original "Maypole Arms" has undergone several changes of owners and various ethnic cuisines, but does still stand, albeit surrounded by suburbia, rather than highwaymen.

The name itself has also been adopted by a different building nearby, which has nothing to do with Dickens!


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