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Eclipse by Stephenie Meyer
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did not like it

** spoiler alert ** Eclipse took what magic was in Twilight and survived the boring but interesting New Moon and killed it off with it's length, lack of imagery, inconsistencies, and lifeless characters.

The high school romance theme is COMPLETELY abandoned- we have the occasional, random scene since we need some build up to Bella's very boring graduation where she doesn't care. I think the high school theme is one of the reasons Twilight was such a success, the reader was really in Bella's shoes as she solved Edward while attending school to provide a normal break. We sometimes read Bella studying for tests but that is only to pass the time until something supernatural happens, we never see the test nor does she feel ANY concern for her dismal grades. Heck, Bella doesn't even care about a paid stay at Dartmouth even if it's just a cover.

The writing dropped dead, like the book itself, and lost its magic- it was by no means great prose but it was descriptive and nice to read. Now we read: "It was amazing the amount of detail involved in the little figurine- the miniature wolf was utterly realistic". Well gee, thanks for that- couldn't Meyer have at least told us the wolf's pose?

Bella lost the traits that made her relatable and enjoyable- that made us feel that she was Edward's equal. She cares nothing for her parents or human friends, only visiting Angela- the first time we've seen one on one interaction between them- to avoid Edward and to appease Charlie, just so she meets her end of their deal and can be with her boyfriend. Though Bella was the only one to figure out that the intruder and the Seattle newborns were related which is meant to be a sign of her observance, it was so freaking obvious that I knew who was responsible for the newborns the day of the Eclipse Prom when I read the excerpt and knew who made the newborns, but Bella- by accident- only figures this out two days before the newborn attack. Bella whines about everything, referring to Edward leaving the house because of Jacob visiting as being childish and immature despite that we at least know how much they dislike each other and would gladly fight given the chance. She never thinks about how much she is hurting Jacob by keeping him around unless he tells that to her face. For some reason, every good character loves her, even Paul who tried to attack Bella before welcomes her (only joking about the bloodsucker stench). Then she becomes the housewife to Charlie, cooking his meals, cleaning the house as a pastime since Charlie didn't learn these skills in his 18 years of living alone nor when he had to care for his ailing parents after high school. "And you've given me you. That's already more than I deserve, and anything else you gives me just throws us more out of balance". The most distressing change is that Bella continues to mope about how unworthy she is of Edward, despite that she had an epiphany at the end of New Moon which finally made her understand that Edward loved her. Then there's marriage- though I understand the argument, I don't understand it coming from Bella. Hey stupid, your true love wants to MARRY YOU and yet all you can think of is the town gossip even though you will leave Forks and possibly only keep contact with your father while abandoning everyone else- so why does their gossip matter!? Bella only agrees to marriage so she can have human sex with Edward before he makes her a vampire; Bella wants sex with Edward while a human (offering to accept his proposal, let him pay for college AND a car, the floozy) but Edward only promises to try if Bella marries him, she agrees... but for the sake of sex because she is till disgusted by marriage. She is still Grumpy about parties, only complaining despite all the effort the Cullens have done for her.

Edward lost his suave, flirtatious, and mysterious charm that enchanted so many in Twilight. He's so devoted like a lovesick puppy, that it's not charming. Edward either manipulates Bella to do what he wants (for her sake) or he lets her get her way- only when it concerns Jacob (after they fight of course), but Edward seemingly overcomes his very character and being to give Bella what she wants (which is a selfish and harmful want on Bella's part). I.e. He kept pressuring Bella to go to Florida (to avoid a werewolf/vampire fight for no good reason) and then tricked Bella into wanting to go by setting up an argument with her dad- that made me so mad. But despite how pathetic he was, the fact that he loves Bella so much that he won't even be mad with her despite the second kiss still won my pity- revoking all will and opinions for the sake of Bella just made me sick.

What used to be a cute, loyal friend with a crush is now an obnoxious, arrogant, sick boy. Jake forces himself on Bella and she breaks her hand when trying to punch the @$$ yet he still has the gall to put his arm around her and only say that Bella enjoyed it. When Bella gives him the cold shoulder later he merely acts exasperated. Then he does a hurt puppy act- actually pouting- when Bella is too distracted to pay mind to him when all he wants to do is give her a present. He later pretends that he plans to sacrifice himself to allow Edward to be with Bella- I actually bought this, thinking Jake's new tough attitude led to this moment- but as it turns out, it was all a plot to get Bella to kiss him. Between the two, I may actually want Jake for life since he has flaws and hobbies that a couple could work to overcome in their lifetime, but not now; he brought this on himself. Jake never acted like he truly loved Bella but rather that Bella was a trophy to prove Jake bested perfect Edward.

Their lovable traits have gone missing, leaving very dislikable characters behind whose flaws are either ignored or always forgiven.

On the few good sides we finally learn Jasper and Rosalie's past. Rosalie's was much more interesting to me since she was much more involved in the plot both in her bitterness and actions in New Moon; also because she told Bella her story in a selfless effort to not only amend for her past behavior but try to convince Bella to stay human. I actually felt sorry for her- how she will never sit on a porch with Emmet watching their grandchildren play- it made my throat ache. Yet all Bella takes from the story is how Tanya was interested in Edward.
Jasper's wasn't very interesting- maybe it's because I wish I knew what he looked like beyond "tall, lanky, and blonde" or because as I read his flat story I kept wondering why Bella never noted a Texan accent- that certainly would have made him more interesting. Jasper's story just lacked any good descriptions or life, it was like reading Interview with the Vampire but without the wonderful imagery or morale lessons- just imagine how dull that would be. But I am happy we learned about him as well as how he and Alice met the Cullens- it sounds so dang interesting; I wish Meyer will write a spin off about Alice meeting Jasper.
We also learn the werewolves past... it certainly wasn't as epic as I suspected. So much for natural enemies, werewolves and vampires only became enemies by accident.

Speaking of the werewolves- imprinting? Yeah, poor guys, being subjected to such a lame plot device. Meyer, in case you didn't know, imprinting is when a baby animal (most commonly BIRDS) label the first thing they see as their mentor and follow the thing (be it alive or not) as an example of how to survive. Even without being scientifically incorrect it is a bad idea and I felt no romance in there. I feel ill when I recall Bella seeing her relationship with Edward just like werewolf imprinting... that completely degraded their relationship and stripped it of love.

Seriously now, why can't the beloved, wonderful, and selfless Bella feel any sympathy towards Victoria who lost her beloved James because of Edward and Bella? Isn't Victoria's situation just like Bella's? Victoria isn't even treated as a villain, we never even see the newborns besides one who isn't at all the threat we wish we saw nor is she even acknowledged until about two days before the attack- she only speaks once and yells once, not even being remotely threatening.

Then there's the women, all besides Alice are pathetically devoted to their man. Let's count them: Bella, Renee, Esme with her first husband (she was abused but Meyer didn't have to do that), Leah, Victoria, Jessica, and even Lauren; which leaves Alice and Rosalie the only women to not be crazy without their men and leaves Alice to be the only strong female in the entire series (Rosalie wasn't as strong but better than the others). Look at Leah, her love couldn't resist being with Emily and now Leah is part of the pack and has to share thoughts with Sam, rather than make a strong woman who overcomes her pain and moves on we get a bitter harpy who can't even be nice to Jake for saving her life when she was being cocky, she instead seeks him out to complain how Jake's lovesick dreams of Bella annoy her and then reminds him of how Edward will most likely kill Bella- while smirking.

Every one of the books had a mystery- Twilight had Edward, New Moon had Jake, so Meyer tried to spin a mystery with who was making newborns and who is the intruder in Bella's room. With the intruder, Meyer did a good job confusing the characters with the Volturi option, making a decent argument to their possible involvement. The newborns receive the same treatment but nowhere as convincing. She constantly weaves through the two, trying to confuse us while making the characters so dim, none consider Victoria as an option until two days before the attack, and even then it was accident by rephrasing. The mystery was very bad and unlike the other two, it was so distant and uninvolved I never felt intrigued, especially since I knew the answer.

Only read for the sake of the series.
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Stephanie Jane I think that the main reason you didn't like the other two books is because they're largely character driven instead of plot driven, whereas Twilight is mostly plot driven.


message 2: by Saya (last edited Feb 25, 2009 02:34AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Saya True, but at least New Moon had the werewolf/gang mystery and Victoria's return to excite the plot just as I got bored with the bonding scenes, but Eclipse had no good mystery- everyone becomes stupid so as to prolong the eventual and inevitable discovery of Victoria- and even the bonding moments were horrible because Jacob was an arrogant jerk whose love for Bella never got across to me and Edward was just to perfect to be charming. Even the Volturi scene was dull.


message 3: by Mela (new)

Mela I feel like you want the characters to be perfect. All through the review you're talking about how annoying their flaws were. But that's what made them human, that's what made them good characters. Another thing that bothered me was when you talked about not knowing what Jasper looked like because there was only a simple explanation. Haven't you ever heard of an imagination?


message 4: by Saya (new) - rated it 1 star

Saya No need to be rude Mela.
Only Bella and Charlie (and the other human characters) are truly human- Bella made an argument of how Jake (and the werewolves) aren't human. I wouldn't have minded these flaws if any of them had something to redeem the flaws with. Look at Alice: She's too fashion obssessed and too hyper (traits that I do not enjoy reading) and yet she is also cunning, loyal, smart, and a good friend. Alice is my favorite character for those reasons.
Look at all the description we have of Bella, Edward, Jake, Alice, and even Charlie. Yet all we learn of Jasper is that he is tall, lanky, and blonde. Look at Esme (the vampire we have seen the least of): we know that Esme's hair is shoulder length, caramel, and wavy, she is softer in body than the others, and has a motherly aura. That doesn't help my imagination at all especially since he is so incredibly distant.



Lori Anderson I just wrote my own review about this and read yours -- and you put into words what I couldn't put my finger on -- that Edward has changed to a love sick puppy. You're right! I hope he gets his edge back because I just love him.


Alyssa I agree. I was so SO disappointed with Eclipse.


Rachel Whoa!
I really thought all of the books' characters were FULL of life and character. I mean I fell in love with Edward!
The 3rd book was I think, however, just a big plot complication. A set-up for what is going to happen next.
I really thought it was just as good as all the others, though.


message 8: by Brittany (last edited Feb 25, 2009 02:34AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brittany Okay yes Eclipse wasn't her best, but I also think that without it, how could we have an interesting end? I think that Eclipse was just a filler, because Stephanie Meyer didn't know how to continue on to the end part, and needed a book that explained why Bella couldn't choose Jacob, and yet in her sub-conscious wanted to. She needed to explain about Bella and Edwards love, and have a book where Bella gets engaged, and Edward and Bella begin to understand each others love, and Edward finally gives up about Bella becoming a vampire (ugh the word is irritating). On the ohter hand, if Stephanie Meyer does the next book in Jacobs POV I may have to hunt her down. New Moon would be better if Jacob didn't exist.


Lori Anderson I'm curious as to what her next book will be like -- I have to look up when the publishing date is!


Brittany Ok I just read all of your review (didn't read it before) and am glad that someone finally agrees with me about Bella. I love Rosalie though, even though I hated how...bitchy Stephanie Meyer made her in Twilight. She hated Bella from the beginning and Edward too. I understand the Edward part. She has had to live with a perfect gentleman, who can't even manage to find a couple of dates in 96 years, and yet he acts all perfect, and wonderful even though everyone knows that he is not. He is pretty pathetic after Twilight, and partially during it. He is almost as bad as Jacob sometimes, such as the whole "I can't live without you. If you had died I would have killed myself" thing is so irritating. I mean come on get a life that involves others. And has anyone ever thought about Emmett? He is like awesome. I may like him so much because he is like my step-dad, but he is pretty awesome. How he died was actually kind of sad, and I was really glad that he ended up with Rosalie. He got a happy ending with a tough, independent girl who loves him with all her heart, and would do anything for him yet can live without him if need be.
I really hope that Bella and Edward's personalities kind of change after Bella's change. I mean wouldn't it be awesome if Edward toned down how pathetic he can be when Bella is less breakable, and Bella became tougher and more independent after the change?
Also Alice is awesome. Yeah the whole shopping addicted thing is irritating sometimes, but that is what makes her unique. If she didn't love shopping and parties would she be the Alice we all know and love?
I personally love Jasper too. I love that mysterious charm that he has come to possess along with the risk. Nothing is fun when there is absolutely no risk involved. Yeah his story was lame, but I was thinking more about the pain he faced. What if he wasn't born in Texas? Did it say he was? I picture him wonderfully. I picture him with three different shades of blonde hair, varying from platinum to golden, and tall, and thin, yet muscular. His hair gently tostled barely hiding his topaz eyes, always centered with black, and large strong hands. Long arms and legs, and a heart shaped face with a slightly pointed chin. I can also imagine him sending out a image of darkness of mystery, always there, but never within, always standing back in the shadows. Good description?
When I imagine people from a description, I can somehow imagine there personalities. Like when I imagine Alice, I imagine her, but I imagine her standing tall (as she can), within a bright yellow light. With Jasper I imagine him standing there looking up, but with his head down (like up through his eyelashes) standing in a light blue light, that is hidden behind a black veil. In other words I imagine him as sweet, and understanding yet dangerous, and hiding behind a veil of mystery ands danger. Get me?
How do they not notice that is Victoria? Hello Edward himself said that it was vampires, it is kind of obvious the the close proximity was not a coincedence, and who else would create a group of newborn vampires so close to Forks, and then get somebody to sneak into Bella's bedroom and steal her clothes and stuff?
I also understand your sympathy for Victoria. Bella and Edward know themselves the power of that kind of love, and yet not one time do they think of the pain Victoria is facing after they brutally murder her mate. I understand that it was nessasary, but they could have given her at least a fleeting thought.
Your right the Volturi scene was so boring. It is like the Volturi did this when they arrived. "Oh hi Bella. Oh your still a human? We need to tell Aro about this. Well we should get going now. See you soon!" Is that stupid or what?
Yes imprinting is stupid. I had a funny mental picture it went like this. (On the phone) "I hate you so much! I never want to meet you!" (When they meet) ""Oh my god I think I just imprinted! I love you so much!" That is so lame!
Jacob= moron. Jacob should know that he shouldn't threaten girls like that because personally I would be like "Okay go ahead. Do it. I dare you." And then he would be dead. Everyone knows that he would never actually kill himself wheather Bella kissed him or not. He doesn't have the guts. He really needs to just grow up and get a life of his own so Bella doesn't need to hold his hand. Same for Bella.
I hate the stereotype that this book poses for women. It makes guys think that they can do whatever, and that all girls will be dependent of them, when really if a guy kissed a girl without her permission, and she didn't want to be kissed, he would probably be facing some serious pain.
the story line is getting old, and even though I am going into the whole thing, I am so still going to read Breaking Dawn, unless it is Jacobs POV then I will throw it out the window.



message 11: by Lori (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lori Anderson I have to keep reminding myself that this series was written as juvenile fiction -- I keep hoping it's going to be something it's just NOT. Once I remember that, it's easier to take.


message 12: by Toni (new) - rated it 1 star

Toni I just wanted to say that I completely agree with your review. I think each book had only one stand out character, and in this one, it is definitely Rosalie. And now that I think about it, her sharing her history with Bella and the story and moral going completely over Bella's head just goes to show how idiotic and unsympathetic she's become since Twilight.



Colleen I totally agree with your review. At times, I laughed, because your review hit dead-on with the funniest things about the book. I mean, come on; Bella loves Edward, but not enough to marry him? It's like, none of that should even matter. I agree with the gossip statement you said -- Who should really care? She probably wouldn't live in Forks all of her life, anyways! Again with the sex statement. Yes, I found that one of the outlandish parts of this whole book. I mean, after two books Edward finally gains a sense of arousal to her? Is it just me or did he totally seem a lot more different in this book, like he was starting to lose his very soul? I want to think Meyer was only trying to prove him as aroused that he could finally bite her and make her his bride -- but I beg to differ with that. If it could only have been given a more understandable reason for her dismissal of marriage, then I would completely embrace the idea of him wanting to do that.


message 14: by Lori (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lori Anderson Oh I forgot about that particular point that annoyed me -- her not wanting to marry him was ridiculous. That just didn't read true and I'll bet there were a bunch of teens out there that were screaming at the book, "YOU IDIOT!"

I hope the old Edward is back in the upcoming book.


message 15: by Lori (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lori Anderson OK, I just went to and can I say, the person they cast as Edward is not at ALL how I envisioned him? Yech. Shouldn't have looked. I rarely watch movies that come out after the book -- so many disappoint me.


Rachel Are you kidding me?!

The characters do have personalities!

All of these books are entirely based on character development

My goodness, can't you realize the books are based upon the characters flaws?
You're supposed to cherish them (however annoying they are), and realize that they try to overcome this flaws.

For Edward, he tries to be understanding for Bella.

For Bella, she's trying to overcome her mortality.

For Jacob, he's trying to over ride Bella's emotions, and make her love him, even though he comes across as arrogant.

Would the book be any good without a love triangle?!

Yes, Bella can be dumb at times, but she's only human! Give her some slack!

How can Bella be Edward's equal?! There was never any reason to feel like she was Edward's equal! She knows she isn't! I know she isn't! She's a human, and does completely human things, just like we do. She realizes later how much she hurt Jacob! She was selfish, like EVERY human is. She doesn't want to marry Edward because she grew up in a home where young marriage was a NO NO.

BOTH PARTIES ARE MANIPULATING HER. Don't you realize? It's a fight for her. She never realizes this. Edward loves her like he loves blood because he could never exist without her. He wants whats best for her. He's entirely SELFLESS. He knew that Bella loved Jacob too, and he lets Bella do whatever she wants because he wants her to be happy. And if she didn't want him, he would learn to accept that. Don't you understand he's crazy mad in love with her that he's willing to give up his happiness for her?! It's called true love

Okay, tell me.
Could you feel sympathy for someone who wanted to kill you?


Do you think Bella means to smell so good to other vampires? Do you think she can help it?
No, so it was James own fault for going after Bella. He clearly knew she was off-limits, but went after her anyways. He paid the correct price in the end.

Jacob is not a disgusting character. He's helplessly in love with a girl who happens to be in love with his mortal-more like immortal-enemy. He's trying to win her over the only way he knows how to. He's only 16 with no expierence. CUT HIM SOME SLACK.

I'm disappointed in your review, and hope you re-read the book and realize your grave mistake.


message 17: by Lori (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lori Anderson Wow, everyone is allowed to have their personal thoughts on something..... without getting preached/yelled at? One of the things that I like about most of the reviews here is it opens up dialogue, and people share their thoughts without attacking and saying, "NO you should feel THIS way." I like to hear both sides.


message 18: by Rachel (last edited Feb 25, 2009 02:52AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Rachel I apologize for my rash reaction, but still disappointed that you did not enjoy the books as much as I did.

Saya, I read your review for New Moon, and I have a question.

Why are you still reading the books if you hate them so much?



message 19: by Toni (new) - rated it 1 star

Toni Perhaps out of the naive hope that they'll get better. Or maybe out of the habit of wanting to see something through to the end. Or, maybe it's like the car crash effect: No matter how horrible it is, you have to look.


Rachel Maybe.

I guess I can understand.

I absolutely hate the writing for The Vampire Diaries, but I like the story line.




Lany Kusnadi I do agree with Saya on some of her points...just making me more sure that I read the book because I fall in love with Edward...


³§³Ùεƒυη¾±³Ùα ♡ These books did not effect me one bit. The book was poorly written just as the first in my opinion. Boring and predictable.
You should read more dark romance novels to see the comparison. It all seems very delusional to me.

True love mixed with obsession? Not a very wise choice to be under.

I expected more from these books but I suppose it's gained its popularity 'cause it was at the right place at the right time. What luck.

Read Neil Gaiman's books instead.


message 23: by Cherie (last edited Feb 25, 2009 02:16AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cherie ok so we have four books in this series. They can't all stay in the " twilight zone" pun intended. The story had to go somewhere. Did you just want her to stay in high school forever? It is as life. People change, circumstances change. It would have been boring if Bella hadn't changed as the story went along. I think it's a great story and I can't wait to read breaking dawn.


message 24: by Brittany (last edited Feb 25, 2009 02:16AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brittany I was so wrong. I really do love Rosalie, but Bella is wonderful. She has her faults, and that's why she is so easy to compare to. Anyway, Eclipse is s good story. Do you seriously want to read about Bella taking a test? I really don't think it will be all that interesting, and Bella doesn't care about her grades, because would you? I wouldn't care if I was getting good grades, if I was trying to convince the vampire love of my life to change me into a vampire so that I could be with him for the rest of eternity, and if you would, you are either in denial, or you have to reorganize your thoughts. I mean what are one set of grades, when you have eternity to get wonderful grades? Also Bella cares about how Edward is paying for Dartmouth, when she isn't even going. She thinks that it is a waste of money, that just throws them even more out of balance. She does care, and it was a good book. I don't think it was the best one, but it helped to explain things. It gave you a little taste of Jacob's desperation, and what Bella really meant to him. It didn't really have the passionate romance that I had hoped for, but it did deliver, some fun sassy moments. Bella needed to understand what she was giving up. What she was sacrificing for Edward, and Edward needed to understand how much Bella really did love him. Oh, and if you don't like the book, why did you write a comment on it anyway? Jacob is a wonderful friend, but he is a horrible person, until Breaking Dawn at least. He just needed true honest love, in order to overcome that. I would be pissed, and desperate too, if the love of my life was being lost to my mortal enemy. Just try to see it from their POV.


message 25: by Kristen (last edited Feb 25, 2009 02:21AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kristen I do agree with making a separate series of books or a book about Jasper, Alice and maybe even Esme.
Those were the only supporting characters whose personalities, stories and/or actions caught my attention, and made me want to know more about them

As for Eclipse the book it self had parts that irritated me (most esp. the Volturi scene) and conversations that seemed jumbled to the point of being very incoherent or jumbled, unless you read over the conversation multiple times(which I had to quite a few times).

As for the series (as a whole) I still have Breaking Dawn left to read; so I will hold out judgment as to my over all view of this series till I am done with the last book.


message 26: by Nate (new)

Nate Perry I am a full twilight man now!!! The way the story unfolds through out the book is outstanding. Stephanie Meyer is one of the greatest writers of the modern age of literature. I hope that Steph will try to expand the series past the fourth book. There are rumors of a fifth but who knows ;) The best thing about reading this book is now i can understand what people are talking about when they are arguing about team edward or team jacob :) as of now i remain undecided. I reccomend this book to anyone with a sincere love of fantasy and conflict. If I could pick the greatest part of the series it would be that the story is always progressing. So you feel as if you are growing with the characters...


Taxandria Mela said: "Haven't you ever heard of an imagination?"

If we were all supposed to use our imaginations, Meyer could have written, "Once upon a time a boring and plain human female fell in love with a dazzling vampire. You fill in the rest."

One of the top rules of writing is, "show, don't tell." Meyer has a habit of telling us things instead of showing them. Like the fight at the end of Twilight. Did we see the fight? No. Bella asks what happened to James and she's told, "We took care of him." Now is that TELLING or SHOWING? This is Meyer's worst habit and shows up throughout the books. Her lack of detailed description makes the series suffer.

BTW my applause and kudos on this review -- it was super long and meaty and I really enjoyed reading it. Totally agree with you, too. I am finding Eclipse so very hard to slog through.


message 28: by Cyan (new)

Cyan Maybe Rachel R. regretted her original reaction in slamming this reviewer, but whether or not this reviewer LIKES reading it, she's reading the books and writing her honest review, so no one needs to ask her motive for reading it. Furthermore, ACTUAL BOOK CRITICS get paid for reading books they despise and writing lukewarm reviews on it, so I'm glad we have reviewers like Saya to tell us her point of view. Right on!


message 29: by Saya (last edited Aug 31, 2017 12:58PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Saya I know this is years after the question but I'll answer it anyway. I continue to read or watch a series that I have come to dislike or even hate because I want to see where it ends. If it's bad enough, I'm perfectly fine with dropping it but if a series has even one trait that caught my interest, I'll stick with it to see if it can be redeemed.

To further elaborate, I actually really like Meyer's version of werewolves and more than half of the vampires backstories are genuinely intriguing. Rosalie and Jasper's backstories alone might have saved the book if the rest wasn't so fantastically and insultingly stupid.


message 30: by Yvonne (new) - added it

Yvonne this is an A review, i love it.


message 31: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa Mercedes Compared to the books, I find the movies pretty good. Which is a rare thing I guess


message 32: by Mili (new) - rated it 2 stars

Mili Guadalupe La verdad no soy de leer reseñas sin antes terminar un libro, y tampoco me gusta dejar un libro a medias. Pero en esta saga precisamente se me tornó super odio Luna nueva. Es algo totalmente absurdo pero lo termine, luego empecé con Eclipse pero siendo sincera estoy a punto de dejarlo de un lado, me resulta fastidioso, y muy tonto el comportamiento de los personajes. Pero al leer tu reseña mi incentivo el seguir leyendo el echo de que se cuenta más sobre la historia de Rosaline y Jasper y creo que sería lo único por lo cual seguiría leyendo.


message 33: by Saya (new) - rated it 1 star

Saya Mili wrote: "La verdad no soy de leer reseñas sin antes terminar un libro, y tampoco me gusta dejar un libro a medias. Pero en esta saga precisamente se me tornó super odio Luna nueva. Es algo totalmente absurd..."
Had to use google translate, so I hope I understood you and that you can use google translate to understand me.
I honestly really enjoyed Rosalie's character development and found Jasper's role to be interesting. But really truly, I remember the rest of the book being genuinely painful to read. Like I wanted to pull my own hair out.
If you're interested in their parts then I recommend pushing through to them, but it has been a while since I read the book, and I remember most of the book being a miserable read. Granted, not the worst I've ever read- I never had to force myself to keep reading this one, dumb as it is. But it was frustrating how dumb the plot was. You can clearly feel how artificially drawn out the story was. It did not need to be so long and that's part of why I dislike Eclipse so much.


message 34: by Saya (new) - rated it 1 star

Saya Vanessa wrote: "Compared to the books, I find the movies pretty good. Which is a rare thing I guess"
I've only watched the first Twilight movie and was surprised to find myself genuinely liking it and even preferring it to the book. Most of it came down to the fact that as a movie, the audience is not being forced to share Bella's point-of-view. Maybe because we aren't inside Bella's head- constantly subjected to her moping and judgemental criticism- she comes across as more likeable or at least tolerable. Guys showing interest in Bella go from sideplots to passing moments which also helps to reduce the stench of Mary Sueness from Bella. Jame's coven actually gets a scene to establish their presence and characters before popping up later which is just the movie following Storytelling 101 and its so embarrassing that this honestly counts as a positive. Seriously Meyer, just one sentence from Edward in the middle of the book to warn Bella about a possible coven in the area.
It's not much but boy did it make a big difference for me.


Katelynn I LOVE YOUR REVIEW. you stole the words right out of my mouth! That is exactly how I feel about Jacob! Like was no one else in the comments seeing what he did was *wrong*??? it was wo consent and he kept acting cocky about it! ughghghg we only like alice :)


Khakshan Jahan Damnn. The best review I've read for this book


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