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Eating Animals by Jonathan Safran Foer
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it was amazing
bookshelves: non-fiction

Well done, Jonathan Safran Foer, well done.
(your book, not steak)

Look, I love meat. I really do. I hate myself for that, but I love meat. I also deplore seeing living creatures suffer. (I'm the jerk that lets spiders out of the house instead of squishing them.) I also know that if I had to kill the animal myself, I'd be a veggie for sure. I'm a total sucker for animals, but not enough of a sucker, I guess.

In junior high, I became a "crazy animal rights/environmentalist tree worshiping bunny hugger". This required me to not eat meat. I don't remember what started it, but it only lasted a few weeks.

A few years later I read, The Jungle and that put me back on the veggie wagon for a month or two.

In college, my anatomy and physiology lab completely cured me of eating beef roasts. (the human muscle in the lab was WAAAAAY to similar to the hunks of cow flesh wrapped under the cellophane.) That lasted a few months.

When driving, if the livestock truck passes me on the highway, I go veggie. (for a day if the truck is empty, maybe for a week if it's full)

This book may have changed me for good. Now, I'm not 100% vegetarian all of a sudden or attempting to go vegan, but I'm starting. When I go out for dinner, I will not choose meat. I will cook here at home with less meat. (This may drive my carnivore husband to divorce court. I'll send you the bill, Jonathan Safran Foer!)

Some veggies and vegans may say Foer was not "forceful" enough, but I am hopeful that at the very least, people like me will cut back on meat, which may lead to quitting meat altogether. Maybe enough people will see the horrid conditions of factory farms and demand fair treatment for animals.

Maybe I'm just living in a fantasy world... I mean, really, the most dedicated carnivore has to admit that factory farms are beyond awful. Exception to the rule: those who think the Lawd JEE-ZUS put the animals here for us to shoot -perhaps from helicopters- and eat. Those folks won't care that factory workers stick electric prods up animals' orifices (orifii?) and put cigarettes out on the animals' flesh. (Yep, sure makes ME believe we are higher, more civilized beings!)

Anyway... some people will NOT be moved by that at all. (NUTJOBS!)

Maybe the heartless population could be enticed to cut back on meat consumption with a little common sense? I am a sucker for common sense, and this book clearly points out that eating meat does not make a hell of a lot of sense.

Consider the impact of meat lust on the environment; the nasty pollution from factory farms, the decimation of wildlife (think overfishing). Think about how many calories of food go into making one little calorie of meat... No sir, makes no sense.

So, if the sad brown eyes of Bessie the cow are not enough to sway you off meat, and, like Rush Limbaugh, you could give a shit about the environment, maybe the fact that meat is not exactly the best thing for your health will get you to lay off the dead animal flesh. Increased meat consumption has been linked to colon and breast cancer. Anyone else noticed the increase of neurological and autoimmune diseases? You don't think that factory farms, which pump the animals full of antibiotics and hormones may play a part, do you?

Perhaps?

Maybe the surge of MRSA, H1N1 and H5N1 are revenge from the animals. Karma for all the suffering. Maybe when a pandemic of H1N1 wipes out a massive chunk of the population, the animals will go to slaughter with a little smile on their faces.

Okay. Maybe not.

I think this is one of the most thought provoking books I have read in ages. Should be required reading for those who put meat in their mouths.
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Reading Progress

November 16, 2009 – Shelved
November 16, 2009 –
page 88
25.81%
November 18, 2009 –
page 132
38.71% "Never again will I eat chicken."
Started Reading
November 19, 2009 – Finished Reading
November 23, 2009 – Shelved as: non-fiction

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message 1: by Kirsti (new)

Kirsti Great review, Bells. Have you heard of the PBJ Campaign ( )? The idea is to eat one peanut butter and jelly sandwich or other plant-based meal per week and track how many resources you save--water, land, carbon emissions, etc. It's a good start for those of us who care about animals but have not been willing to give up meat entirely.


Books Ring Mah Bell Kirsti, that is an awesome campaign! I guess I know what's for lunch today.


message 3: by karen (new)

karen sigh. one more down.


message 4: by Malbadeen (new)

Malbadeen imagine how many resources we would save if we all turned off our computers for a day!


Books Ring Mah Bell What? No computers for a day!?!?! Fuk da earf!


message 6: by [deleted user] (last edited Nov 23, 2009 01:07PM) (new)

I am reading this now, so I don't want to read your review yet because I'm worried it'll spoil the ending for me. (You know... the surprise ending where Foer spontaneously goes apeshit and starts ripping the beaks off chickens with his bare hands and biting into the flesh of live pigs.)


message 7: by karen (new)

karen he actually did that when he came to sign at my store. guess who had to clean it all up?


message 8: by [deleted user] (new)

I don't have to guess... Greg. Always Greg. (That boy sure knows his way around a mop.) But I heard that you supervised very authoritatively.


Books Ring Mah Bell Jeez, David. I put one little spoiler alert in your book and now you think that all I'm gonna do is spoil the ending...




message 10: by karen (new)

karen its true. i scooped up all the leftover meat-bits and made a scrapple because i am not one of you.


brian   If God had not intended for us to eat animals, how come He made them out of meat?' - Sarah Palin


message 12: by [deleted user] (new)

She's like the retarded Will Rogers.

(C'mon. She didn't really say that, did she?)


Books Ring Mah Bell Gay and retarded.


message 14: by brian (last edited Nov 23, 2009 01:33PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

brian   it's a direct quote from her book.
page 133.


Jackie "the Librarian" Oh, I hate passing those trucks full of chickens, or cows. I feel guilty, and I'm already mostly vegetarian.


message 16: by karen (new)

karen sure, but shes quoting the simpsons, intentionally or not...


message 17: by Malbadeen (new)

Malbadeen you shouldn't put down gay and retarded people, it's not nice.


message 18: by Dave (new)

Dave Russell Yeah, way to stand up for yourself, Marie.


message 19: by [deleted user] (new)

Zing!


message 20: by Books Ring Mah Bell (last edited Nov 23, 2009 04:17PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Books Ring Mah Bell damnit, don't make me split you kids up!

This was under my status update from Elaine (http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/... so I'm posting it here for you all.
This is a comment on Foer's entire book, not p. 88 alone.
And does Foer tell you how wheat, soybeans and corn are harvested and how many animals and birds get chewed up by the huge reapers? Does he talk about the deforestation caused by converting land to planting acreage? Does he consider what would happen to the millions of domesticated birds and cattle that would be abandoned to starve to death slowly if Vegans had their way?

No, the one thing we can do is to support organizations like the ASPCA or The Humane Society which work to create and enforce laws against animal cruelty. They work to have those animals live in good environments and be slaughtered humanely, like not crowding them in feed lots and using an air gun to kill them so rapidly, they don't know what's happening.

You can't eat anything that's cruelty free, even vegetables, unless you grow all of your food yourself -- even then, where do you get seeds from that haven't come from plants that were seeded and harvested under cruel conditions. It's easy to point fingers. It is not easy to effect remedies. Has Foer ever heard of 'unintended consequences?' -- You do one thing to remedy a situation, but there are unforeseen consequences that are as bad as the original situation for which you've provided the solution



message 21: by [deleted user] (last edited Nov 23, 2009 04:24PM) (new)

So many people simply become shrieking, hyperdefensive assholes when the subjects of vegetarianism, veganism, and/or animal rights are even broached.

Which is another reason why I hate people. And, specifically, know-it-all types like Elaine, who shove their irritable thoughts and opinions down your throat as if you personally spray-painted 'animal murderer' across the front of their vinyl-sided tract homes...

Most meat-eaters' philosophies can be boiled down to the following intellectually rigorous axiom: Waaaaaaah! But I really, really, really, really, really wanna eat meat, goddamnit!

Thank you.



message 22: by Stephen (new)

Stephen brian wrote: "it's a direct quote from her book.
page 133."


I find it disturbing that you've read her book, Brian who does not answer letters. :-)


Books Ring Mah Bell David, you never let me down.

ever.




message 24: by [deleted user] (new)

"Letters," Stephen, or inbox messages? There's a definite distinction. We must not call inbox messages "letters" or what will we call "letters?!"


message 25: by [deleted user] (new)

Incidentally, I find that nagging people into being your friend has all the makings of a beautiful, long-lasting, mutually-gratifying human relationship.


message 26: by Books Ring Mah Bell (last edited Nov 23, 2009 04:29PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Books Ring Mah Bell There is a distinction!

My inbox is cold and empty.

so is my mailbox.

you all go and feel guilt while I weep.

yes, I am nagging you into being my friend.

write me, love me, rub my feet.


message 27: by Dave (new)

Dave Russell And does Foer tell you how wheat, soybeans and corn are harvested and how many animals and birds get chewed up by the huge reapers? Does he talk about the deforestation caused by converting land to planting acreage? Does he consider what would happen to the millions of domesticated birds and cattle that would be abandoned to starve to death slowly if Vegans had their way?

Wait, does Foer talk about these things? She brings up interesting points (irritable though they may be) that I'm not edumacated enough about this issue to address, but they seem like valid objections.


message 28: by [deleted user] (new)

Okay...




Books Ring Mah Bell yes, but land is being freaking raped to grow food for the cows, so there!

I once saw a bumper sticker on a car that said, "meat is dead." I passed the car every day on my way to classes. Finally, after a month, I took a sharpie and added to it, "so are veggies when you pull them from the ground"


We also may as well discuss that food borne illness is not always meat related. Think poison peanut butter! Think strawberries and e-coli! bean spouts that have been tainted! (literally)

Ah, fuck it. we are all doomed!


Books Ring Mah Bell Look bitches, I WILL NOT BE IGNORED!




message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

Oh yes. You will be.


; )


message 32: by [deleted user] (new)

Why are you crying, DK? I don't follow.

By the way, I don't think veganism is going to hit the world so suddenly that livestock is going to rot. I really don't.


Books Ring Mah Bell Watch your rabbit, Kowalski.

Watch. Your. Rabbit.


message 34: by [deleted user] (new)

I don't think veganism is going to hit the world so suddenly that livestock is going to rot.

Yeah, not suddenly. Or not ever, more like. Unless meat becomes so dangerous (diseased or disease-causing) that people get paranoid about eating any of it.

I was crying in sympathy with Bellsy's lack of 'letters.'


message 35: by [deleted user] (new)

Oh yeah. And imagine how I feel with her unfilled out birthday card right in my purse. Like a real heel, that's how.


message 36: by Books Ring Mah Bell (last edited Nov 23, 2009 04:48PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Books Ring Mah Bell I don't think veganism is going to hit the world so suddenly that livestock is going to rot.

Oh, you just watch, Tambo!
See, Obama is all "green" and stuff, so once he realizes the positive environmental impact of not eating meat,
paired with meat eating = illness, he will think, "f that noise! I can save us some money by making people eat healthfully and then it won't drain the government health insurance as much!" (pair this will killing granny and Obama care is a bargain!) and the environmental genius of being vegan will earn him awards bigger than Al Gore's and plenty of b.j.'s in the oval office!


*sets beer bottle down, checks on bunny stew*


message 37: by Dave (new)

Dave Russell Books Ring My Bell wrote: "I don't think veganism is going to hit the world so suddenly that livestock is going to rot.

Oh, you just watch, Tambo!
See, Obama is all "green" and stuff, so once he realizes the positive enviro..."


Couple that with the fact that when Foer's book finds a wider audience, women will swoon over his dreaminess and men will be persuaded by his well-crafted prose. It's a recipe for a mass movement.


Books Ring Mah Bell see!!!

EVIL!


message 39: by karen (new)

karen what happened to the bacon-love?


message 40: by Joshua Nomen-Mutatio (last edited Nov 24, 2009 07:15AM) (new)

Joshua Nomen-Mutatio dk® wrote: "I don't think veganism is going to hit the world so suddenly that livestock is going to rot.

Yeah, not suddenly. Or not ever, more like. Unless meat becomes so dangerous (diseased or disease-caus..."


Or if the production of in vitro meat ever becomes more efficient and its quality improved.



PETA is encouraging research and development in this area, because they, like you and I both, realize the implausibility of significantly curbing the world's meat consumption (I mean, there's five billion karens out there, all eating their pet bunnies everyday).




Books Ring Mah Bell I will always love Bacon, Karen. ALWAYS.

:(

Right now I have too much hurt in my soul to touch it.


message 42: by Malbadeen (new)

Malbadeen I respect people that can do the Vegan thing. That's some serious commitment! But after tasting those Vegan Chocolate chip cookies, I know I could NEVER do that.

Also Dave, thanks once I asked a teacher, what if I was "special" and everyone was too nice to tell me...how would I know?! His very wise response being that I was indeed "special" and then he put an 8x10 photo on his desk of me and called me his "special student". Thanks for confirming him. ouch.



message 43: by Dave (new)

Dave Russell Wait, he had an 8x10 photo of you? How old were you?


Rachel Normally, people don't provide a lot of biographical info when writing reviews on GoodReads, but it's been the norm for reviews of "Eating Animals." Is the reviewer vegan, meat-eater, or somewhere in between? Kind of like JSF, people feel compelled to provide this frame of reference first, before talking about the subject matter of the book. (I did that as well.) I find that very interesting!



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