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Eating Animals
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Well done, Jonathan Safran Foer, well done.
(your book, not steak)
Look, I love meat. I really do. I hate myself for that, but I love meat. I also deplore seeing living creatures suffer. (I'm the jerk that lets spiders out of the house instead of squishing them.) I also know that if I had to kill the animal myself, I'd be a veggie for sure. I'm a total sucker for animals, but not enough of a sucker, I guess.
In junior high, I became a "crazy animal rights/environmentalist tree worshiping bunny hugger". This required me to not eat meat. I don't remember what started it, but it only lasted a few weeks.
A few years later I read, The Jungle and that put me back on the veggie wagon for a month or two.
In college, my anatomy and physiology lab completely cured me of eating beef roasts. (the human muscle in the lab was WAAAAAY to similar to the hunks of cow flesh wrapped under the cellophane.) That lasted a few months.
When driving, if the livestock truck passes me on the highway, I go veggie. (for a day if the truck is empty, maybe for a week if it's full)
This book may have changed me for good. Now, I'm not 100% vegetarian all of a sudden or attempting to go vegan, but I'm starting. When I go out for dinner, I will not choose meat. I will cook here at home with less meat. (This may drive my carnivore husband to divorce court. I'll send you the bill, Jonathan Safran Foer!)
Some veggies and vegans may say Foer was not "forceful" enough, but I am hopeful that at the very least, people like me will cut back on meat, which may lead to quitting meat altogether. Maybe enough people will see the horrid conditions of factory farms and demand fair treatment for animals.
Maybe I'm just living in a fantasy world... I mean, really, the most dedicated carnivore has to admit that factory farms are beyond awful. Exception to the rule: those who think the Lawd JEE-ZUS put the animals here for us to shoot -perhaps from helicopters- and eat. Those folks won't care that factory workers stick electric prods up animals' orifices (orifii?) and put cigarettes out on the animals' flesh. (Yep, sure makes ME believe we are higher, more civilized beings!)
Anyway... some people will NOT be moved by that at all. (NUTJOBS!)
Maybe the heartless population could be enticed to cut back on meat consumption with a little common sense? I am a sucker for common sense, and this book clearly points out that eating meat does not make a hell of a lot of sense.
Consider the impact of meat lust on the environment; the nasty pollution from factory farms, the decimation of wildlife (think overfishing). Think about how many calories of food go into making one little calorie of meat... No sir, makes no sense.
So, if the sad brown eyes of Bessie the cow are not enough to sway you off meat, and, like Rush Limbaugh, you could give a shit about the environment, maybe the fact that meat is not exactly the best thing for your health will get you to lay off the dead animal flesh. Increased meat consumption has been linked to colon and breast cancer. Anyone else noticed the increase of neurological and autoimmune diseases? You don't think that factory farms, which pump the animals full of antibiotics and hormones may play a part, do you?
Perhaps?
Maybe the surge of MRSA, H1N1 and H5N1 are revenge from the animals. Karma for all the suffering. Maybe when a pandemic of H1N1 wipes out a massive chunk of the population, the animals will go to slaughter with a little smile on their faces.
Okay. Maybe not.
I think this is one of the most thought provoking books I have read in ages. Should be required reading for those who put meat in their mouths.
(your book, not steak)
Look, I love meat. I really do. I hate myself for that, but I love meat. I also deplore seeing living creatures suffer. (I'm the jerk that lets spiders out of the house instead of squishing them.) I also know that if I had to kill the animal myself, I'd be a veggie for sure. I'm a total sucker for animals, but not enough of a sucker, I guess.
In junior high, I became a "crazy animal rights/environmentalist tree worshiping bunny hugger". This required me to not eat meat. I don't remember what started it, but it only lasted a few weeks.
A few years later I read, The Jungle and that put me back on the veggie wagon for a month or two.
In college, my anatomy and physiology lab completely cured me of eating beef roasts. (the human muscle in the lab was WAAAAAY to similar to the hunks of cow flesh wrapped under the cellophane.) That lasted a few months.
When driving, if the livestock truck passes me on the highway, I go veggie. (for a day if the truck is empty, maybe for a week if it's full)
This book may have changed me for good. Now, I'm not 100% vegetarian all of a sudden or attempting to go vegan, but I'm starting. When I go out for dinner, I will not choose meat. I will cook here at home with less meat. (This may drive my carnivore husband to divorce court. I'll send you the bill, Jonathan Safran Foer!)
Some veggies and vegans may say Foer was not "forceful" enough, but I am hopeful that at the very least, people like me will cut back on meat, which may lead to quitting meat altogether. Maybe enough people will see the horrid conditions of factory farms and demand fair treatment for animals.
Maybe I'm just living in a fantasy world... I mean, really, the most dedicated carnivore has to admit that factory farms are beyond awful. Exception to the rule: those who think the Lawd JEE-ZUS put the animals here for us to shoot -perhaps from helicopters- and eat. Those folks won't care that factory workers stick electric prods up animals' orifices (orifii?) and put cigarettes out on the animals' flesh. (Yep, sure makes ME believe we are higher, more civilized beings!)
Anyway... some people will NOT be moved by that at all. (NUTJOBS!)
Maybe the heartless population could be enticed to cut back on meat consumption with a little common sense? I am a sucker for common sense, and this book clearly points out that eating meat does not make a hell of a lot of sense.
Consider the impact of meat lust on the environment; the nasty pollution from factory farms, the decimation of wildlife (think overfishing). Think about how many calories of food go into making one little calorie of meat... No sir, makes no sense.
So, if the sad brown eyes of Bessie the cow are not enough to sway you off meat, and, like Rush Limbaugh, you could give a shit about the environment, maybe the fact that meat is not exactly the best thing for your health will get you to lay off the dead animal flesh. Increased meat consumption has been linked to colon and breast cancer. Anyone else noticed the increase of neurological and autoimmune diseases? You don't think that factory farms, which pump the animals full of antibiotics and hormones may play a part, do you?
Perhaps?
Maybe the surge of MRSA, H1N1 and H5N1 are revenge from the animals. Karma for all the suffering. Maybe when a pandemic of H1N1 wipes out a massive chunk of the population, the animals will go to slaughter with a little smile on their faces.
Okay. Maybe not.
I think this is one of the most thought provoking books I have read in ages. Should be required reading for those who put meat in their mouths.
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I am reading this now, so I don't want to read your review yet because I'm worried it'll spoil the ending for me. (You know... the surprise ending where Foer spontaneously goes apeshit and starts ripping the beaks off chickens with his bare hands and biting into the flesh of live pigs.)
I don't have to guess... Greg. Always Greg. (That boy sure knows his way around a mop.) But I heard that you supervised very authoritatively.

She's like the retarded Will Rogers.
(C'mon. She didn't really say that, did she?)
(C'mon. She didn't really say that, did she?)


This was under my status update from Elaine (http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/... so I'm posting it here for you all.
This is a comment on Foer's entire book, not p. 88 alone.
And does Foer tell you how wheat, soybeans and corn are harvested and how many animals and birds get chewed up by the huge reapers? Does he talk about the deforestation caused by converting land to planting acreage? Does he consider what would happen to the millions of domesticated birds and cattle that would be abandoned to starve to death slowly if Vegans had their way?
No, the one thing we can do is to support organizations like the ASPCA or The Humane Society which work to create and enforce laws against animal cruelty. They work to have those animals live in good environments and be slaughtered humanely, like not crowding them in feed lots and using an air gun to kill them so rapidly, they don't know what's happening.
You can't eat anything that's cruelty free, even vegetables, unless you grow all of your food yourself -- even then, where do you get seeds from that haven't come from plants that were seeded and harvested under cruel conditions. It's easy to point fingers. It is not easy to effect remedies. Has Foer ever heard of 'unintended consequences?' -- You do one thing to remedy a situation, but there are unforeseen consequences that are as bad as the original situation for which you've provided the solution
So many people simply become shrieking, hyperdefensive assholes when the subjects of vegetarianism, veganism, and/or animal rights are even broached.
Which is another reason why I hate people. And, specifically, know-it-all types like Elaine, who shove their irritable thoughts and opinions down your throat as if you personally spray-painted 'animal murderer' across the front of their vinyl-sided tract homes...
Most meat-eaters' philosophies can be boiled down to the following intellectually rigorous axiom: Waaaaaaah! But I really, really, really, really, really wanna eat meat, goddamnit!
Thank you.
Which is another reason why I hate people. And, specifically, know-it-all types like Elaine, who shove their irritable thoughts and opinions down your throat as if you personally spray-painted 'animal murderer' across the front of their vinyl-sided tract homes...
Most meat-eaters' philosophies can be boiled down to the following intellectually rigorous axiom: Waaaaaaah! But I really, really, really, really, really wanna eat meat, goddamnit!
Thank you.

page 133."
I find it disturbing that you've read her book, Brian who does not answer letters. :-)
"Letters," Stephen, or inbox messages? There's a definite distinction. We must not call inbox messages "letters" or what will we call "letters?!"
Incidentally, I find that nagging people into being your friend has all the makings of a beautiful, long-lasting, mutually-gratifying human relationship.

My inbox is cold and empty.
so is my mailbox.
you all go and feel guilt while I weep.
yes, I am nagging you into being my friend.
write me, love me, rub my feet.

Wait, does Foer talk about these things? She brings up interesting points (irritable though they may be) that I'm not edumacated enough about this issue to address, but they seem like valid objections.

I once saw a bumper sticker on a car that said, "meat is dead." I passed the car every day on my way to classes. Finally, after a month, I took a sharpie and added to it, "so are veggies when you pull them from the ground"
We also may as well discuss that food borne illness is not always meat related. Think poison peanut butter! Think strawberries and e-coli! bean spouts that have been tainted! (literally)
Ah, fuck it. we are all doomed!
Why are you crying, DK? I don't follow.
By the way, I don't think veganism is going to hit the world so suddenly that livestock is going to rot. I really don't.
By the way, I don't think veganism is going to hit the world so suddenly that livestock is going to rot. I really don't.
I don't think veganism is going to hit the world so suddenly that livestock is going to rot.
Yeah, not suddenly. Or not ever, more like. Unless meat becomes so dangerous (diseased or disease-causing) that people get paranoid about eating any of it.
I was crying in sympathy with Bellsy's lack of 'letters.'
Yeah, not suddenly. Or not ever, more like. Unless meat becomes so dangerous (diseased or disease-causing) that people get paranoid about eating any of it.
I was crying in sympathy with Bellsy's lack of 'letters.'
Oh yeah. And imagine how I feel with her unfilled out birthday card right in my purse. Like a real heel, that's how.

Oh, you just watch, Tambo!
See, Obama is all "green" and stuff, so once he realizes the positive environmental impact of not eating meat,
paired with meat eating = illness, he will think, "f that noise! I can save us some money by making people eat healthfully and then it won't drain the government health insurance as much!" (pair this will killing granny and Obama care is a bargain!) and the environmental genius of being vegan will earn him awards bigger than Al Gore's and plenty of b.j.'s in the oval office!
*sets beer bottle down, checks on bunny stew*

Oh, you just watch, Tambo!
See, Obama is all "green" and stuff, so once he realizes the positive enviro..."
Couple that with the fact that when Foer's book finds a wider audience, women will swoon over his dreaminess and men will be persuaded by his well-crafted prose. It's a recipe for a mass movement.

Yeah, not suddenly. Or not ever, more like. Unless meat becomes so dangerous (diseased or disease-caus..."
Or if the production of in vitro meat ever becomes more efficient and its quality improved.
PETA is encouraging research and development in this area, because they, like you and I both, realize the implausibility of significantly curbing the world's meat consumption (I mean, there's five billion karens out there, all eating their pet bunnies everyday).

Also Dave, thanks once I asked a teacher, what if I was "special" and everyone was too nice to tell me...how would I know?! His very wise response being that I was indeed "special" and then he put an 8x10 photo on his desk of me and called me his "special student". Thanks for confirming him. ouch.
