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Messenger by Lois Lowry
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did not like it
bookshelves: crap, children-s-books, childrens-series, young-adult

This book was terrible. And stupid.

It pains me to say so, because (as everyone likely knows by now) The Giver is one of my most favorite books of all time. In this book, we get to see Jonas again (and even Gabe, for a moment) so I thought for sure it would tie things together and give me some emotional resolution. And while it was good to see what happened to Jonas (even though he is never called by that name in this book, it's clearly Jonas) there were too many other major flaws for me to enjoy the story.

Major spoilers ahead, so read at your own risk.

First of all, I was more than a little confused to learn that Jonas literally arrived in Village (also, this trend of capitalizing nouns and not putting "the" in front of them--annoying as fuck) on a sled. The sled is now in Museum in Village. (SEE?! Annoying!) Because the ending of The Giver is so open ended, I kind of thought maybe the sled was a metaphor, or a hallucination, or something. Why was there randomly a sled? He literally rode a sled into town? All right. Okay. I'll pretend to buy that. BUT...Jonas is around 20-21 in this story. He has already been named the leader of this new community (his name is now Leader) and apparently has been for some time. Really? A thirteen-year-old shows up one day on a sled, with an infant, and in a few years he's the leader of the community? This is kind of explained by saying that Leader has a gift, the ability to "see beyond." Yes, I've heard that before. Jonas could see colors when the other genetically engineered people in his childhood community could not. But wait--this is not the same "seeing beyond" that we know from before. Adult Jonas can actually see...beyond...what normal people can see. Like, he can stand in his study and focus really hard on the forest and "see" to the other side. But it makes him really tired. Hmmmm. When did he discover/master this particular skill? We never find out.

At one point Matty, the main character in this story, is hanging out with Leader and admiring his many books. Leader says that they arrived one day (when he was about 15) on a river barge--just a bunch of wooden crates filled with books. We are led to understand that these were the books that the Giver had owned, sent down the river to Jonas as a token of forgiveness for leaving them and making them deal with memories and colors. So, what happened in his old community? Is the Giver still there? Did they sort themselves out? Again, we never find out. Jonas has never gone back to his old community, never regained contact with his family, nothing. No juicy tidbits for a Giver fan to hold on to.

Apart from the frustrating lack of information about Jonas, we have a strange subplot involving trading pieces of your soul (or your family's health) for things like slot machines that give you candy. There's this shady fellow called Trademaster who is apparently magical in some way, because he's collecting "the deepest self" of many of the people in Village and trading them for these slot machines. This is making many of the people in Village turn into hostile assholes who are mean to each other, and want to close the borders to prevent additional refugees from coming in. So, you would think that this Trademaster fellow would be the Big Bad of the story. Who is he? What does he want? What on earth is he doing? Guess what? We see him once, and then...we. Never. Find. Out.

Somehow related to this "close the borders" subplot is the fact that Forest (not THE forest, but proper noun Forest) is thickening, decaying, and killing people who try to enter it. Like, Forest is literally attacking people with vines and sharp sticks when they try to pass through. This obviously has something to do with why people in Village are becoming so mean, and also probably with Trademaster, but none of it is ever explained. Zip, zero, zilch, nothing. The book ends with Matty sacrificing himself by using up all of his healing power to "heal" the forest, which then heals the people in Village (by restoring their deepest selves) and Jonas and Kira (oh, she's here too) traipse out of the woods together. That's the end. The main character dies stopping this malevolent evil that is completely unexplained. Where was it coming from? Why is Forest trying to kill everyone? Are the slot machines evil? Who is Trademaster? What exactly were people trading? WHY IS THIS BOOK SO TERRIBLE?!

We never find out.

So, if you're looking for a completely nonsensical and frustrating read, I highly recommend this book. Otherwise, if you've read The Giver and are thinking about continuing the series, I strongly suggest that you do not, because you will be sorely disappointed.

And yes, I'm still going to read Son. Glutton for punishment, I guess.
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Reading Progress

January 7, 2010 – Shelved
Started Reading
July 15, 2014 – Finished Reading
July 16, 2014 – Shelved as: crap
July 16, 2014 – Shelved as: childrens-series
July 16, 2014 – Shelved as: children-s-books
July 16, 2014 – Shelved as: young-adult

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message 1: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer Blaske Thanks so much for this review! I, too, really loved The Giver and never got into this. I kept thinking I was missing things and not paying attention. Glad it wasn't just me!


Kimberly Beanmommy2 wrote: "Thanks so much for this review! I, too, really loved The Giver and never got into this. I kept thinking I was missing things and not paying attention. Glad it wasn't just me!"

Definitely not just you! I was let down by this series in general, but this book was by far the worst of the four.


Spider the Doof Warrior Alas. I did not get that much better. :(


Crystal Yes, thank you!! I found myself confused with my reaction to this book and actually threw it across the bed when I finished it! I feel like it had great bones, but could have used about another 100 pages (and I am generally a huge proponent of brevity!). I love that characters came together in this subtle way to tie the books together, but just needed more...


Juanita I agree with your review. Where was the mention of Gabe? I didn't notice it and can't find it in a Kindle search of the book.


Kimberly Juanita wrote: "I agree with your review. Where was the mention of Gabe? I didn't notice it and can't find it in a Kindle search of the book."

It's been too long now; I don't remember where Gabe is mentioned. They might not have used his name, since they didn't use Jonas's name in the book, but I figured out it was Gabe? Not sure.


Juanita Thanks! Hopefully, I'll figure it out in SON.


Rebecca Juanita, Gabe was mentioned very briefly in chapter 2, before there is ever a mention of Leader, which I remember because I thought Jonas would be immediately referenced. Instead, there is no indication that Gabe is even affiliated with Jonas (I haven't read the last book though, so maybe that is covered in some manner).

Anyway, I digress. I did a quick search and found the Gabe reference was at location 186 on my Kindle version. The reference reads "...Mentor, the schoolteacher, gently tutored a mischievous eight-year-old named Gabe, who had neglected his studies to play and now needed help." That's it--just a brief name drop.


message 9: by Kimberly (last edited Jul 15, 2015 06:55AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Kimberly Thanks Rebecca! Gabe does play a much larger role in Son.


Rebecca Great review, Kim. It drove me crazy to see Forest and Village written as such over and over. I assume it is an attempt to further highlight them as anthropomorphic characters of a sort (the forest having intentions of malice and awareness, for example) by mirroring the naming conventions assigned to people in the book. Still, it seemed heavy-handed, beyond irritating, and a little gimmicky.

I also felt that in The Giver there was a logic to not immediately understanding the reasons for things because it was a journey of discovery that Jonas was making and his gradual awakening drove the story. I have felt, however, with subsequent books, and as you noted in this one especially, that the complex unraveling of that ordered world in the first book was traded in for purposely vague plot elements that are quickly abandoned for no reason. It isn't provocative or thoughtful to drop the Trademaster element so quickly, or to have the final resolution be so simple and abrupt, or to have characters constantly getting a sad look when thinking about their past as a replacement for creating a complex emotional reaction--it's not that everything needs to be examined or to wrap up neatly, but in this case the abandoned elements just make this book seem really incomplete.

Anyway, thanks for the excellent perspective.


Kaylee Prunty Haha I totally agree with your review! It is so frustrating how Lowry took every interesting detail from The Giver and totally turned it into some stupid literal meaning that didn't even fit with the original theme. Like the sled and Jonas's ability to hold memories. How exactly did seeing colors turn into a weird future/telepathy gift anyways? Like you said, We never know. Extremely disappointing and so many steps below the caliber of Lowry's original writing.


Kimberly Disappointing is the word for sure. I was so bummed out by the entire rest of this series. "Son" was okay, but I still wish I had just not read any of the rest after The Giver. :(


message 13: by Duncan (new) - added it

Duncan You all are wrong in my opinion, sure these books weren't as great as the first one, but two things
1)Let's see you try to write a quartet as great as Lois's

2)They were still great.


message 14: by Tea (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tea I have all the same question this posts reflected. Yes it is possible to see the book as is and let it go. But this story continued after Gathering Blue and because of that those questions could have been answered without ruining the allegorical point. lol I'm going to read Son now.


message 15: by Darina (new)

Darina H This book is like really bad and SUPER boring. It's really NOTHING as good as The Giver. If you like The Giver, then you really should read Son. Especially the last part of son is really good:Beyond.


message 16: by MK (new) - rated it 5 stars

MK While I agree that this book posed many questions in my mind, so many of my other favorite books also did. I hustled tried to accept the world Lois has created despite the questions. In the end I still found it a good book and am looking forward to reading Son. I to was displeased with the ending though.


message 17: by MK (new) - rated it 5 stars

MK I didn't mean to add the word hustled into my last comment. My sincere apologies.


message 18: by Lisa (new) - rated it 3 stars

Lisa Brunton The ending frustrated the hell outta me!!! WHY


Guillermo Lamphar Forest annoyed the hell out of me. Not the word (though it did too) but the character. Like... what the hell? The way Lowry introduces magic, since Gathering blue... well... it sucked. Even though gathering blue is a lot better than messenger. Messenger has no point, no overall arch... everything feels artificial.


Emily Your review sums up everything I feel about this book. What happened to the magic that was The Giver? I too, even after being disappointed by Gathering Blue and Messenger, will still read Son. It better tie the numerous loose ends!


Denise Martins YES! I agree with everyrhing. I finished reading it this morning and I just didn't know what rating I should give it. My thoughts where scattered, like the ideas and plots in the book. Nothing was satisfyingly resolved. Matty's gift felt "very convenient" and had a tast of lazy writing.

I had questions left from Gathering Blue and Messenger didn't address any of those, only piled more on top. I still don't know how the people from Village knew when there where people in the Field so they knew to go get them, since Village is days away from the Field.
It is said that Leader sees beyond but not what's to come like Kira does and the injured and dead would be gone overnight. So what happened to the dead is another mystery.

The shift in Jonas gift was indeed jarring and how exactly did Kira manage to bring change into her community?

The capitalisation and the suppression of 'the' didn't bother me. There are real places where people talk like that. I didn't enjoy it but it was just a quirk of the place.

Overall this was a disappointment. When I watched the movie The Giver I was so happy to find out it was based in a book and that there was even a continuation but so far I've only really enjoyed the first one. The quality has been steadily decreasing :(


Kevin Yes, every bit of this.


message 23: by Rebekah (new)

Rebekah Thank you, this review was really helpful and informative!


message 24: by Dawn (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dawn Bruce Son brings them all together.


message 25: by PAR (new) - rated it 5 stars

PAR This was the best book in the series yet. So amazing!


Suzanne Um, about the sled...
Giver gave that vision to Jonas in Book 1. Along with 'snow' and 'colored lights' (of Christmas, we presume).


Kimberly Suzanne wrote: "Um, about the sled...
Giver gave that vision to Jonas in Book 1. Along with 'snow' and 'colored lights' (of Christmas, we presume)."


Yes, Giver gave Jonas the memory of two different sled rides and a few Christmas memories. I'm not sure what that has to do with me being amused that he literally rode a sled into a new village, haha.


message 28: by Joseph (new)

Joseph Berrens I do agree that it was t that good I disagree on some of the points like for example the sled stuff and a little bit about how he become leader he become that over time I was okay with the whole power but trademaster was stupid villian they were setting up in the next book


April Don't read Son if you had trouble with this book because I thought Son was worse then Messenger. I just had to keep telling myself that it was written for young adults and that's why it was missing so much. It wasn't deep like an adult book would be.


message 30: by Zak (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zak Lee Beuchat I just finished it, and I sadly agree. The trading subplot was interesting, but the resolution was disappointing. I feel like I need someone to rewrte it because I feel I need a proper resolution to all the interesting things that were just kinda dropped.


Allyx Douglas Vega I see there is no need for me to write a review, because you nailed my feelings on the matter. Just finished it and I'm incoherent with rage at how utterly meaningless and half-assed it was. Thank you for writing this.


message 32: by Matthew (new) - added it

Matthew Busetto Cry more


message 33: by Tara (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tara There are so many allegorical messages in this book. It is one of my favorites in the series.


Paula I read the Giver in school when I was 12 years old or so. And I loved it, I needed more of it. Imagine my joy when I found out not only there's a sequel, but three whole books to continue the story. And same as you I found out this bullshit. I agree with every single thing you said. And even when the book itself lacks from logic and explanation, it made me love Matty. We met him in the previous book, we keep him in this book. He's the main character we know better, and he's killed just like that? Just to have Kira back? Because we basically traded them. And I have nothing against Kira, but I don't see the point of the trade, I don't understand what was happening, so Matty's death seems so... Random, so unnecessary...


message 35: by Katy (new) - rated it 2 stars

Katy This is exactly what I was thinking.


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