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Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov
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bookshelves: novels, borscht-and-kvass, tortured-artists, penguin-classics, second-read
Read 2 times. Last read November 1, 2012 to November 2, 2012.

Pale Fire presents a 999-line poem from murdered poet John Shade, followed by an unreliable commentary (and earlier intro) from his stalker and apparent chum Charles Kimbote. The commentator takes an arch tone to his union with shade, exaggerating and distorting his position in the poet’s life, and uses the space to expand on the history of his homeland Zembla in lieu of discussing the poem’s content. Upon a first reading I found the book something of an extended academic titterfest, albeit larded with the usual Nabokovian puzzles for militant close readers, and upon a second read, my opinion hasn’t changed much. The digressions on Zemblan kings and princes are (intentionally, but so what?) long-winded and dreary, and the line-by-line commentary, although amusing in places, doesn’t particularly dazzle except as a series of Vlad set-pieces, like a looser Pnin, albeit with more formal ingenuity. The poem isn’t supposed to be a spoof of bad poetry, according to Vlad biographer Brian Boyd in this boxset special edition. It ain’t half bad, that poem.
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Reading Progress

Finished Reading
January 29, 2010 – Shelved
October 30, 2010 – Shelved as: novels
July 30, 2011 – Shelved as: borscht-and-kvass
January 24, 2012 – Shelved as: tortured-artists
July 9, 2012 – Shelved as: penguin-classics
November 1, 2012 – Started Reading
November 2, 2012 – Finished Reading
October 10, 2021 – Shelved as: second-read

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message 1: by Nathan "N.R." (last edited Nov 02, 2012 09:54AM) (new) - added it

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Uh, the novel gets zwei Sternen, but the poem vier? That's odd math. [he says out of all his depth of Nabbi ignorance.]


William2 I agree the poem can be trying, but on the whole found nothing "dreary."


message 3: by MJ (new) - rated it 2 stars

MJ Nicholls The poem was my favourite part. Love those sexy iambs.


Nathan "N.R." Gaddis MJ wrote: "Love those sexy iambs. "

Sontag said what about an erotics of literature? Can't argue with iambs.


William2 I'll have to reread and review with an eye to providing some balance on PF. :-)


William2 Nathan "N.R." wrote: "MJ wrote: "Love those sexy iambs. "

Sontag said what about an erotics of literature? Can't argue with iambs."


Which essay was that, Nathan?


message 7: by MJ (last edited Nov 02, 2012 12:33PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

MJ Nicholls Please do. This is an extremely popular book among my GR cohorts.


message 8: by MJ (new) - rated it 2 stars

MJ Nicholls I added an extra star. Two is a little grumpy of me.


message 9: by David (new)

David MJ wrote: "I added an extra star. Two is a little grumpy of me."

Be grumpy.


Nathan "N.R." Gaddis William wrote: "Which essay was that, Nathan?"

Against Interpretation. I can only go so far with her on her thesis. Puma brought it to my (re)attention.




Arthur Graham MJ wrote: "I added an extra star. Two is a little grumpy of me."

I wondered how you could rate it so low, but if you're anything like me, you rate books relative to other books by the author in question. Nabokov certainly has better books, and I'm betting you've read more of them than I have, so your rating makes sense to both of us.


Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Mike wrote: "That damned Puma is all over the place. "

So one would hope.


message 13: by MJ (new) - rated it 2 stars

MJ Nicholls Arthur wrote: "I wondered how you could rate it so low, but if you're anything like me, you rate books relative to other books by the author in question. Nabokov certainly has better books, and I'm betting you've read more of them than I have, so your rating makes sense to both of us."

Nabokov, like (Martin) Amis, varies from book to book, and always uses highly erudite, arch narrators in his novels, which can get tiresome. (Unlike Amis, who is tiresome anyway).


message 14: by MJ (new) - rated it 2 stars

MJ Nicholls I dedicate the above comment to the Puma.


William2 Only Brits think he's tiresome. He's sort of like my Sorrentino, or Gass. I call it the Pond Effect.


message 16: by Paul (new)

Paul Bryant thanks MJ, my thoughts precisely


message 17: by MJ (last edited Nov 10, 2012 08:35AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

MJ Nicholls William wrote: "Only Brits think he's tiresome. He's sort of like my Sorrentino, or Gass. I call it the Pond Effect."

Not sure I follow why Brits find certain Nabokovs, i.e. this one, tedious (although Paul certainly is not helping dispel that myth).


message 18: by Paul (last edited Nov 10, 2012 08:45AM) (new)

Paul Bryant Always mystified me why this gets the rave reviews. It's all a bit sixth-form modernism-lite.

But hey, the idea of a reissued box set of a novel is nice - with all the outtakes and alt mixes and demos. The box set for Ulysses would have to be a crate.


Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Paul wrote: "But hey, the idea of a reissued box set of a novel is nice - with all the outtakes and alt mixes and demos. The box set for Ulysses would have to be a crate."

The box set (hyper-texted) of The Wake is currently being prepared--all of the notebooks, etc, will be linked from within the text. I suspect that there is more than one box set of Ulysses being prepared at Universities across the world.


message 20: by Paul (new)

Paul Bryant Not sure I would remain awake for the wake but I say yes O yes for Ulysses... bring on the box.


Nathan "N.R." Gaddis Paul wrote: "Not sure I would remain awake for the wake but I say yes O yes for Ulysses... bring on the box."

There was the Gabler box, but Kidd took it down for a 10 count:


Now Kidd's own box set looks like it has been indefinitely delayed due to lose of "plays well with others" skills:


Meanwhile, here's a nice map of Dublin:



message 22: by [deleted user] (new)

MJ Nicholls wrote: “Pale Fire presents a 999-line poem from murdered poet John Shade...�

Actually it is a 1000-line poem, with the last line repeated (see p.229).


message 23: by MJ (new) - rated it 2 stars

MJ Nicholls Nicholas wrote: "Actually it is a 1000-line poem, with the last line repeated (see p.229)."

Last line is omitted as far as I remember, but I don't have a copy on hand to check. Either way it's a repeat of the first line so 999 original lines. This is not a debate I thought I'd have on Xmas Eve.


message 24: by Megha (last edited Dec 24, 2012 02:01PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Megha John Shade wrote only 999 lines. Kinbote said that Shade meant to add a 1000th line, which will complete the symmetry of the poem.


nostalgebraist Yeah, Shade never wrote the last line. (This lets Nabokov start making things weird before the first sentence is even over -- Kinbote's Foreword opens with "Pale Fire, a poem in heroic couplets, of nine hundred ninety-nine lines," when of course a poem in couplets should have an even number of lines.)


message 26: by Andrea (last edited Oct 21, 2013 01:48AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Andrea extended academic titterfest yes, sir.

The digressions on Zemblan kings and princes are (intentionally, but so what?) long-winded and dreary Yes, sir, indeed.

Unvarnished, independent review, love it.


message 27: by M.B. (new) - rated it 3 stars

M.B. Hare Really glad to see that I'm not alone on my opinions here. Certainly, "Pale Fire" isn't bad...but it also comes across as rather cold, ultimately. I'll never understand why so many people fawn over it, especially when much better hyptertext-style fiction exists today.


message 28: by MJ (new) - rated it 2 stars

MJ Nicholls ^ Thanks Andrea [from 2013(!)] and Matthew [from now]. It's either fawn or yawn with this novel, seemingly...


message 29: by Olga (new)

Olga Thank you for your review. "kings and princes..." - not reading this book, no way.


message 30: by Peter (new)

Peter Thanks MJ. Think I'm going to skip this.


message 31: by MJ (new) - rated it 2 stars

MJ Nicholls ^ I am obliged to say, hey, why not try it for yo'self, as the Pale Fire cult is vast and vicious.


message 32: by Eric (new)

Eric Kinbote's mad which makes reading his zigzagging mind a chore to the less than the devoted. He's funny as hell though, and that makes up for everything, as far I'm concerned.


message 33: by MJ (new) - rated it 2 stars

MJ Nicholls Mo wrote: "Another reason to add to why I hate postmodern literature (and art films)."

Woah there! Do not throw pomo lit or arthouse films under the bus. This is not a fine example of the genre. Get thee to Coover, Sorrentino, Brooke-Rose & Gass.


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