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Memory by Lois McMaster Bujold
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bookshelves: x-vorkosigan-saga, super-private-journal, scifi-modern

a colleague asked me a series of questions while we were out drinking the other night, questions like So what's next for you? and Is this all you are planning on doing with your career? and Is your current job how you want to be defined and does that actually give you satisfaction? I found myself annoyed then defensive then offended. what gave her the right to question me, I've accomplished a lot in my job and in my life, yes I am content with my career and why the hell shouldn't I be, blah blah blah. in the end I realized that I shouldn't have been offended because I think she was asking me those questions because she was asking herself the same. and so I calmed down and we continued to get drunk while philosophizing on the choices we've made and the nature of our existence blah blah blah.

I think some people like to live in boxes. I am such a person. I love my box, it's a safe and comfortable one and I've spent a lifetime constructing it. my box is one that gives me genuine satisfaction and the feeling that I am doing only what I want to be doing with my life. but I think other people resent and reject the idea of a box; they prefer to live in what can be called a "liminal space" - that space between, that place of ambiguity and movement and looking towards what comes next. you can look at your goals in life and try to come up with a plan or timeline to achieve those goals. or you can look at your goals and see them as constantly in flux, in movement depending on where you are, liminal. or you can look at yourself and realize that you are actually not a goal-oriented person. I think all of those are different kinds of boxes. I think my colleague may disagree.

so this book, Memory, is about those sorts of things. despite opening with a character getting his legs shot off and ending with a high-stakes trap for a devious villain, this is far from an action novel. it is a thoughtful story about who we are, why we are, the boxes we construct, the identities we create for ourselves and the separate boxes those identities live in, how our identity/identities can become dominos or houses of cards falling if something or someone takes those boxes away. Miles Vorkosigan's dual identities of mercenary fleet commander and aristocratic peer of the realm have always been bubbling in the background throughout his stories; in this novel they finally come to a head. Bujold does a superb and moving job in delineating who Miles is, and was, and can be; she gives the mundane, all-too-common situations of making errors & trying to cover up your tracks, losing a job & so losing a part of your identity, a palpably emotional resonance. she does all of that and then she doubles down and gives us another ongoing character, Simon Illyan, going through a similar thing but in an entirely different manner. Miles is the sort of character who assertively rejects the idea of a box and who insists he lives in a liminal space - but who has actually been constructing two boxes to live in, and has actively not been living in the space between, in that liminal space. Simon is the sort of character who has constructed his own perfect box - one that makes his career equal his actual self - only to find that box dismantled and his sureness of purpose and self destroyed as he moves into a purely liminal space. it is fascinating comparing the two journeys.

in sum, this is a wonderful novel about figuring out that who you are does not equal your job or your birth name or any specific, singular role or title; rather, it is the sum of all such things, and your experiences, and your internal workings, your actions and your potential, your ability to change or not change, and so much else. you = not easily summed up in one word.

I love that this space opera is all about these 'mysteries' that every human experiences. I know when I pick up a Vorkosigan Saga novel that I will be enjoying some action and some intrigue and some political maneuvering and maybe even some romance. standard space opera pleasures. but I also know that I will be enjoying a human tale about actual human beings and the things that happen in life, to everyone. it is that last sentence, that particular quality, that makes this series so special.
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April 23, 2014 – Shelved
Started Reading
May 18, 2014 – Shelved as: x-vorkosigan-saga
May 18, 2014 – Finished Reading
May 20, 2014 – Shelved as: super-private-journal
May 20, 2014 – Shelved as: scifi-modern

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Alexa Yes, yes, yes! You totally nailed it!!!


mark monday thank you! now to get to the group thread on this book and report my findings. only 4-5 months late!

but honestly I'm glad I've taken so long. in particular, this and Mirror Dance have been so rich and nourishing that I'm stoked I haven't rushed the experience of reading this series.


Anders Great review.


éèԱ Bravo, Mark! Right on.
I recently was reading some discussion about escapism and genre fiction and I would like to confront some of those contemptuous people with Bujold's books.


message 5: by Kelly (new)

Kelly Fantastic review. :)


message 6: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan I'm slowly being lured into the saga by posts like these...just curious - what is your current job/ career? ;)


Olga Godim Great review, Mark, one of your best. But then, the book that inspired it is one of the best in the genre too. Have you noticed that writing a review for a mediocre book is much harder than for a good one?


mark monday thank you very much folks, I appreciate it!

Olga, so true and éèԱ, definitely agree!

Jonathan, I'm in an interesting (to me) position that combines public policy work with health & social services. it is a hard position to describe. I guess a short way of summarizing it is that I direct a community council that oversees targeted federal funding for 3 counties in California.


Grace*dnfing books since 2022* This was such an insightful review that it lingered on my mind throughout the day.

I find that the sort of self-worth you mentioned is quite prevalent, which is understandable, since it operates as a sort of social construct, a pecking order that exists due to the rise of cities (my theory entirely). The sort of "success means never being satisfied with where you are in life" mentality. For people who operate within that construct and love it, I say kudos to them. They are happy always looking for the next, best thing, the attainment of which is a stepping stone and a mark of success for them. They are brilliant, simply because they have been able to supersede the "game"...that is, if they are always able to stay ahead. But for those few who strive and yet cannot attain, whether due to handicaps of health or genes or just general misfortune, it is a prison constructed by others, one that totally lowers one's self-worth...and to what avail? Nothing at all. So it's interesting to hear you say that this book is about such boxes, and that you feel like you are in a box, when usually boxes have such negative connotations! The fact that you are content with what you are achieved is a sort of breaking out of the social construct; you have transcended the box. And it is a pity that contentment is so looked down upon as stagnation or lack of ambition, when it should be the mark of a truly happy man.

And now I've totally hijacked your comment section. But a very lovely review. Thanks for sharing.


message 10: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan mark wrote: "thank you very much folks, I appreciate it!

Olga, so true and éèԱ, definitely agree!

Jonathan, I'm in an interesting (to me) position that combines public policy work with health & social serv..."


Interesting Mark. Thank you for letting me into your life. ;) It sounds like communication is an important factor in what you do and by the looks of your activity on here - you do it well!


message 11: by mark (new) - rated it 4 stars

mark monday thanks - although I know many who would say that I over-communicate! oh me and my opinions


message 12: by mark (last edited May 22, 2014 09:35PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

mark monday Grace wrote: "This was such an insightful review that it lingered on my mind throughout the day...."

thanks! and that was no hijacking, that was an awesome series of perceptive comments that I really appreciated. love your theory on 'the rise of cities' and the subsequent shifting definitions of success and even satisfaction.

also really appreciate your comment on 'those who strive and cannot attain'. I find that I deal with that with some of my colleagues, who (understandably) grow resentful at their lack of promotion and yet who appear to be satisfied by their jobs - it becomes something that is about a title (and, of course, pay)... and I also deal with other colleagues (like the one I mentioned) who seem dissatisfied with their staff when those staff aren't supposedly striving for more. since when does accomplishing your job perfectly mean you have to also be looking for ways to continually do even more and/or do different things. I'm fortunate in that the person I report to (the head of my agency) is also a friend of mine who understands where I am coming from. otoh, I feel worry for the excellent and perhaps not particularly 'ambitious' staff who report to my colleague. thank God she's my peer and not my boss. still, I do admire her and it is basically for the reasons you mention - there is a sort of brilliance there, in her mentality and in her way of looking at her life. but it is a mentality that is also rather lacking in empathy.

as much as I enjoy my job, I think my perfect job would be owning a bookstore. if I were to ever do that, it would be even harder for me to ever try to view my work in the way she does her. there is satisfaction in simply being able to do what you want to do, even if that seems static to others.

or maybe I'm just saying all of this because I am a typical Virgo who loves his comfy little box.


message 13: by Agnieszka (new)

Agnieszka You made me think about my box ... There's such a mess in my life now .

Great review Mark ! As always .


message 14: by mark (new) - rated it 4 stars

mark monday very sorry to hear! that sucks. hope things get better for you Agnieszka.

and thank you. this is one of those reviews where there was such a serendipitous crossover between what I was reading and an experience I recently had, that it just had to all go in the review.


message 15: by Mir (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mir mark wrote: "since when does accomplishing your job perfectly mean you have to also be looking for ways to continually do even more and/or do different things."

Hence the phenomenon of people being promoted to the level of the incompetence.

Grace, I also thought your comments insightful.


message 16: by Jean (new)

Jean I love the reviews where you talk about yourself, Mark--that's so much of what books are about. Thanks for sharing!


message 17: by mark (new) - rated it 4 stars

mark monday Miriam, so true.

Jean, I am very thankful that you and others don't appear to mind playing the role of my nonjudgmental therapist during the various therapy sessions I disguise as book reviews!


message 18: by Jean (new)

Jean Your sessions are always a pleasure:)


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Julio Genao holy shit. what a review, and the thread is awesome too.

grace and mark, your discussion reminds me of this piece I read once, which I am helpfully unable to retrieve at the moment, that concerned itself with early 19th century st. luis families in upper-middle class economic positions, and how they spent all their money constructing homes with european-style sitting rooms and buying costly furnishings and social accoutrement like silver or bone china tea service—in Missouri, recall—all (as the piece argued) because at some point the outward manifestation of your economic success became indivisible from the perception of your social status—which isn't new, and not new to america.

but the twist was, these families defined themselves not just by what they had, and the display of same—but by what their neighbors had also.

it became nearly as important for their neighbors to have tidy yards and stuffy sitting rooms and grandfather clocks as it was for them to have those things, because they also defined themselves by who they had the good fortune to be living near, and would defend their neighborhoods from people who had as much money as they—but weren't as good at flaunting it.

...is what I was thinking when I read about your friend, mark, interrogating you about how satisfied you were with your own security.


message 20: by mark (new) - rated it 4 stars

mark monday that is an interesting slant on that conversation! I have to give that one more thought. it sort of fits into my surprise at her surprise that I didn't see myself in her terms - how she is always looking for the next goal. I wonder where that came from. perhaps she sees the two of us as similar. well, we both have similar goals for our agency and a similar fluidity when it comes to our professional history and we both have pretty assertive personalities, at least professionally.

but actually I'm a lot more like her stolid husband than I am her. and quelle coincidence, his name is also Mark. must be in the naming. wait, he's also a virgo. must be virgos named Mark.

done! ok, solved that. now on to other mysteries of the human psyche!


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Julio Genao it is an honor and a privilege to watch you work, sir.


message 22: by Mir (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mir julio wrote: "but the twist was, these families defined themselves not just by what they had, and the display of same—but by what their neighbors had also.
it became nearly as important for their neighbors to have tidy yards and stuffy sitting rooms and grandfather clocks as it was for them to have those things, because they also defined themselves by who they had the good fortune to be living near, and would defend their neighborhoods from people who had as much money as they—but weren't as good at flaunting it."


Interesting! I wonder if that is where zoning laws come from. You know, creating an entrenched way to enforce one's standards on ones neighbors.

mark wrote: " I'm a lot more like her stolid husband than I am her. and quelle coincidence, his name is also Mark. must be in the naming. wait, he's also a virgo. must be virgos named Mark."

I know a lot of marks and I don't think any of them are ambitious in the sense your colleague was describing. They're more people who want to find the thing they like to do and be good at it. Could be coincidence, but there are various theories about how names influence personality...


message 23: by mark (new) - rated it 4 stars

mark monday Stolid Marks Unite! together we can calm these ambitious, constantly spinning wheel types down.


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Julio Genao mark: the ambition whisperer


ٳٱ❇ YES! Just finished this one and am completely in love with it. Must finish reading this series before death!


message 26: by mark (new) - rated it 4 stars

mark monday Same!


message 27: by Jo (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jo Hi Mark! Your reviews of the Vorkosigan novels encouraged me to read the series and it has since become a series very dear to my heart. I recently quit my job and with that, I felt, my self-identity, so I came back to re-read this book and see if I could relate to Miles's story differently from how I did before. And naturally, per tradition, I followed the re-read up with a re-read of your review! I am now primed to re-read the natural sequel to this book, A Civil Campaign, and I finally come to the point of this comment which is to ask you: Have you read A Civil Campaign? If not, do you plan to read it? I would describe it as Bujold channeling Georgette Heyer, and since I know you enjoy the latter's work, it would be lovely to read your thoughts on it, if you ever got around to reading it. Regardless, thank you for your insightful reviews and for enriching my reading experiences!


message 28: by mark (new) - rated it 4 stars

mark monday Hi Jo! I'm so glad my reviews helped to get you into this great series. That makes me very happy.

You know just the right way to make me immediately return to this series: "Bujold channeling Georgette Heyer." That sounds fantastic. I think my next is Komarr, with Civil coming after. Fortunately I have Komarr on my shelf, so I will be getting to it next. And then hopefully Civil Campaign after not too long. :)


message 29: by Jo (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jo mark wrote: "Hi Jo! I'm so glad my reviews helped to get you into this great series. That makes me very happy.

You know just the right way to make me immediately return to this series: "Bujold channeling Georg..."
Haha, I was a little sneaky in choosing the words that would tempt you the most, sorry about that! (Sneaky but not untruthful - you might enjoy seeing Bujold's dedication for A Civil Campaign.) But I'm so glad that you're picking up the series again and I'm sure that Komarr and A Civil Campaign will not disappoint. Looking forward to reading your reviews!


message 30: by mark (new) - rated it 4 stars

mark monday Well, I finished Komarr (very enjoyable) and A Civil Campaign is up next, probably within the next few months. All thanks to you! :)


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