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The Year of Women--in which I'm devoting 2021 to reading female authors only--continues with Clothes, Clothes, Clothes, Music, Music, Music, Boys, Boys, Boys, the 2014 memoir by Viv Albertine, former lead guitarist of the punk band The Slits. I considered skipping this based on its purchase price ($14.99). Another tale of sex, drugs and rock 'n roll in the days when they were great? But the reviews sold me and I am glad they did. This book is electric. I felt myself being plugged into an amp and projected across space. Albertine's romance with Mick Jones, songwriter and lead guitarist of the Clash and stories of punk rock's founders were exciting, but it was Albertine's writing that put a spell on me.



-- I can't imagine what a happy home life is like: parents cuddling and laughing, music playing, books on the shelves, discussions round the table? We don't have any of that, but if Mum's happy, I'm happy. The trouble is, she isn't happy very often because my dad is odd and difficult and not as quick-minded as her--and also we're poor. Every night I lie in bed listening through the wall to Mum tidying up in the kitchen. She opens and closes cupboard doors, bangs pots and pans, and I try to interpret the sounds, to gauge by the strength of the door slams, the ferociousness of plates clattering together, the way the knives and forks are tossed into a drawer, if she's in a good mood or not. Usually not. Occasionally I think, That door was closed gently, that saucepan was put away softly, she's feeling OK, and I go off to sleep, happy.

-- To keep my mind occupied, I fantasised about musicians. There was nothing else to think about. We had no TV, and there was nothing on it anyway, I wasn't missing much. (We eventually got a second-hand black-and-white set but the living room was so cold that we had to sit under a pile of old army coats, blankets and sleeping bags to watch it. It just wasn't worth the effort.) A children's feature film came out in the cinema once a year at Christmas, not many people had telephones (landlines), there was nowhere to go: youth clubs were a joke and I wasn't interested in lessons, except art and English. Music and guys in bands were a way to let your imagination loose. I'd fantasise that Donovan or John Lennon was my brother, or that I'd bump into Scott Walker and he'd fall in love with me; cooking up an interesting world in my head.

I studied record covers for the names of girlfriends and wives. That's how I connected girls to the world I wanted to be in. I scanned the
thank yous and the lyrics, looking for girls' names. Especially if I fancied the musician. What are these girls like who go out with poets and singers? What have they got that I haven't?

I read the book
Groupie by Jenny Fabian and I'm ashamed to say I thought it sounded OK, being a groupie. But I knew I wasn't witty, worldly or beautiful enough to even be that. The only way left for a girl to get into rock and roll was to be a backing singer and I couldn't sing.

Every cell in my body was steeped in music, but it never occurred to me that I could be in a band, not in a million years--why would it? Who'd done it before me? There was no one I could identify with. No girls played electric guitar. Especially not ordinary girls like me.

-- Nina Canal is in my year (
she later formed the experimental New York band Ut). She's tall and willowy with olive skin, short black hair, and moves like a gazelle; she's languid and self-assured, the most elegant girl I've ever seen. Nina hangs out with an equally stunning girl called Perry--such a cool name--who has long messy blonde hair, is outspoken and interesting; she lights up any room she's in. Nina and Perry don't wear makeup, their hands and clothes are covered in splodges of paint, their fingers rough and gnarled, ringed with plasters covering cuts from scalpels and Stanley knives. Working hands, creative hands, the hands of girls who do stuff, who have ideas. Sexy hands. They smoke roll-ups. These two girls eclipse Marianne Faithfull, Anita Pallenberg, Suzi Quatro and June Child (not Yoko though) as role models for me--they're real girls, my age, that I can copy. Although they come from a more privileged background than me, which gives them confidence I don't have, I think if I watch them and listen to them for a couple of months, I can get there. This is the kind of girl I want to be: natural, passionate about work, articulate, intelligent, equal.


Walking down Davis Road with Keith Levene and Mick Jones, 1975

-- Expressing myself through the guitar is a very difficult concept to grasp. I don't want to copy any male guitarists, I wouldn't be true to myself if I did that. I can't copy Lita Ford from the Runaways or the guitarist from Fanny: they don't sound like women, they sound like men. I keep thinking, "What would I sound like if I was a guitar sound?" It's so abstract. As I experiment, I find that I like the sound of a string open, ringing away whilst I play a melody on the string next to it. It sounds like bagpipe music or Indian or Chinese, oriental and elemental. I try to play like John Cale in the Velvets, I don't realise for ages that he's playing violin and viola, not guitar. I want my guitar to sound like that. I like hypnotic repetition, I like the same riff played over and over again for ages. I like nursery rhymes. I love the top three trebly strings, the higher up the neck the better, and I turn the treble knob on the guitar and on the amp up full.

-- I can't wear my beautiful Terry de Havilland boots because they're brown. You can't wear brown. It's the most reviled colour. Not just because it's considered lame, being a mixture of other colours--even a colour has to state its position--but because it's bourgeois, worn by people who live in the countryside. It's too comfortable. Acceptable colours are black, white, red, shocking pink, fluorescent yellow or green (almost impossible to find anything in London in these colours), tartan, anything bold. Pastels are weak, unless you wear them ironically or in a contrasting fabric like rubber; grey is for old people and suits. As for beige, you may as well be dead.

-- I bump into Chrissie Hynde at the Speakeasy and tell her I've changed my mind, I've decided to join the Slits if they ask me again. She says, "If you didn't go for it, I would have!" If they ask me I'd better say yes before Chrissie moves in on them. But they wouldn't ask Chrissie. No one wants to be in a band with her, she's too good.


The Slits -- me, Ari, Tessa, Palmolive

-- Ari is wonderful and terrible in equal measure. She's great when we're writing, rehearsing or playing, but the rest of the time I find her difficult to be around. She'd loud, boisterous, rude, unstable and desperate for attention every second of the day. She's not an ordinary fifteen-year-old, they discovered that about her at her last two schools; in the end they asked her to leave, they couldn't control her. She makes enemies wherever we go, pissing off soundmen, promoters, potential managers and other bands with her attitude. I know she's young and just beginning to discover the adult world but she's so extreme: at one point she was convinced she was god's mistress reincarnated. It's worrying.

Because Ari's the singer of the band she's our mouthpiece. The trouble is, she doesn't know enough about life yet to be a mouthpiece, and she doesn't know that she doesn't know--that's the worst thing. I'm not very patient with her, I hardly ever let her naïve comments pass without a withering look or a sharp retort. I wouldn't care what she says or does if I wasn't in a band with her, but I am and it's important to me.

-- The Slits go through managers very quickly. No one can control us. I don't think a manager should control a band, ideally they should guide and facilitate, but control is what they seem to want to do. Also, when girls have an opinion, and the manager is a man, sexual politics rears its ugly head. They don't hear,
We don't want to play those kinds of venues, we're trying to create a whole new experience, so even the venues we play have to be thought about carefully. They hear, I don't want to fuck you. They try and treat us like malleable objects to mould or fuck or make money out of.

-- A friend of Dick's turns up, he's just been in Africa. An older hippy guy, we don't mind him hanging about, he's very relaxed. He's watching the shoot and we're smearing mud from the rose garden on each other's arms and legs, mucking about and using our eye makeup and crayons to look a bit tribal. He gets what we're trying to do, and says we remind him of a tribe he saw in Africa; we ask him what marks we should do, he suggests, he shows us how to tie a loin cloth ...
Yeah! Let's cover ourselves in mud and wear loin cloths! This is pretty late in the shoot, and we've been at Ridge Farm a couple of weeks so we're all a bit stir-crazy. We strip off in the garden. We wouldn't have done it if it had been a male photographer, but we feel safe with Pennie.



-- Our first show in LA is at the Whisky a Go Go; we walk onto the stage acting like Stepford Wives because we've just watched the film back at the hotel and we think it perfectly describes LA--a tranquil surface with sinister undercurrents. I'm surprised how much I like it. Whilst we're here, we try to meet up with a friend of ours called Ivi, a sweet, gentle Jamaican guy Don Letts introduced us to in London, but when we call his apartment we're told he's been shot dead in a drug feud. We dedicate
Return of the Giant Slits to him.

-- Even though we love our new record, it was exhausting to make without any support and things are disintegrating within the group; the musical climate has changed in England, it's more careerist, bands go to record-company meetings dressed in suits with briefcases and do business deals. It's not an environment the Slits fit into at all. Honesty and outspokedness are yesterday's papers. In the back of the van on the way to one of our last gigs Ari tells us she's pregnant; as she talks, she tugs absent-mindedly at her eyebrows, pulling them out one by one. By the time we arrive in Bristol, she has no eyebrows left.

-- The pain I feel from the Slits ending is worse than splitting up with a boyfriend, my parents divorcing or being chucked out of the Flowers of Romance: this feels like the death of a huge part of myself, two whole thirds gone. Now the Slits are over and Tessa has recovered, I've got nowhere to go, nothing to do; I'm cast back into the world like a sycamore seed spinning into the wind. I'm burnt out and my heart is broken. I can't bear to listen to music. Every time I hear a song I feel physical pain, just to hear instruments is unbearable, it reminds me of what I've lost.


The Slits memorial photo, 1982. L-R: Tessa, me, Ari, Bruce Smith, Neneh Cherry

This takes us to the end of "Side One," or 59% of a whirlwind memoir. Teaching aerobics, graduating film school, marriage, cancer, motherhood, Vincent Gallo, divorce and more music are to come. Albertine does a sublime thing with Clothes, Clothes, Clothes, Music, Music, Music, Boys, Boys, Boys. In addition to the clarity and wit she brings to her writing--as if the Brontës started a punk band--Albertine pens each episode as if a journal entry from that time. She rarely comments on events from any wiser, healthier perch but from what head space she was in then. I found this remarkably alive and also so honest in autobiography that delves into the creative process. I loved it.

Viviane Albertine was born in Sydney, Australia in 1954 and grew up in a North London council flat.



In the event you missed them: Previous reviews in the Year of Women:

Come Closer, Sara Gran
Veronica, Mary Gaitskill
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Reading Progress

May 28, 2014 – Shelved as: to-read
May 28, 2014 – Shelved
January 12, 2021 – Started Reading
January 12, 2021 –
5.0% "Until today I thought life was always going to be made up of sad, angry grown-ups, dreary music, stewed meat, boiled vegetables, church and school. Now everything’s changed: I’ve found the meaning of life, hidden in the grooves of a flat black plastic disc. I promise myself I will get to that new world, but I don’t know how. What, or who, could possibly help me get closer to that parallel universe?"
January 12, 2021 –
7.0% "We go out together for years, we go to youth hostels, visit Cathy in Wales (she’s moved there with her new boyfriend). We take acid on the Gower Peninsula; once when the drug was just kicking in, ‘Here Comes the Sun� by the Beatles was on the record player and I sang along with it. Mark said, ‘You have a beautiful voice.� That’s the first time anyone ever said something nice about my voice."
January 12, 2021 –
8.0% "Woodcraft teaches us survival skills, how to make a campfire, hiking, how to save a life, is educational about global poverty, conflict and the peace movement � but for me, what it’s really all about is snogging boys. Meeting boys like Robin Chaphekar is the real reason I go to a school hall and prance about country dancing every Friday night."
January 12, 2021 –
9.0% "The boy I most fancy after Ben Barson is Nic Boatman, the naughtiest and cutest boy at Woodcraft. Once when me and Nic were kissing and touching each other on a bed in someone’s house, he put his hand inside my knickers and I orgasmed immediately just from the newness of the experience. Well, I think it was an orgasm, it felt like a big twitch and then I wasn’t interested in being touched any more."
January 12, 2021 –
10.0% "Girls didn’t usually listen out for guitar solos and riffs, that was a male thing � wow that was so fast, wow that was a really obscure scale, wow the way he bends the notes. I used to listen to the lyrics and the melody of songs, not dissect the instruments. I couldn’t bear Hendrix’s playing at the time, it was so in your face and he was so overtly sexual, it was intimidating."
January 13, 2021 –
21.0% "The one thing Bernie and I have in common is what we think the Clash’s songs should be about. We both think it would be better if they stopped writing soppy love songs and wrote material that reflects their everyday lives. Funny though, now my favourite Clash songs are the love songs: ‘Stay Free�, ‘Train in Vain� and ‘Should I Stay or Should I Go�. Mick is a great love-song writer."
January 13, 2021 –
22.0% "I carry my guitar through the streets of central London, prop it against the bus stop in St Martin’s Lane � without taking my hand off it in case someone tries to nick it � heave it onto the bus and sit with the case wedged between my knees, thinking to myself, ‘Nobody knows I can’t play it. At this moment in time, I look like a guitarist.�"
January 13, 2021 –
25.0% "My attraction to shocking goes back to the sixties: hippies and Yippies used it a lot, comic artists like Robert Crumb, the underground magazine Oz, Lenny Bruce, Andy Warhol. I also studied history of art at school, and learnt how Surrealists and Dadaists used shock and irrational juxtaposition. All this influences my work and I try to shock in all areas of my life, especially in my drawings and clothes."
January 13, 2021 –
28.0% "Sid always says he isn’t a violent person, that he’s a useless fighter, he’d rather run away from a fight than confront someone, violence is a last resort. But ‘Sid Vicious� is becoming a persona he can’t shake off, and he lets the myth build, plays up to it. His attitude is, Let’s see how far this thing goes. Test it to destruction."
January 14, 2021 –
30.0% "Acceptable colours are black, white, red, shocking pink, fluorescent yellow or green (almost impossible to find anything in London in these colours), tartan, anything bold. Pastels are weak, unless you wear them ironically or in a contrasting fabric like rubber; grey is for old people and suits. As for beige, you may as well be dead."
January 14, 2021 –
30.0% "We do have a name though: the Flowers of Romance. I think it’s the best band name in the world, reminds me of The Grapes of Wrath. Rotten thought of it, just came out with it, he’s so good with words. I love that the name goes against all the other band names that are fashionable at the moment, all the hard, shocking, aggressive names."
January 14, 2021 –
32.0% "The Heartbreakers are respected because their leader, Johnny Thunders, was in the New York Dolls, a band that influenced both the Pistols and the Clash. Hearing Thunders is on his way to England is like hearing Dracula is on his way to our shores in the hold of a ship � a dark powerful presence, ominous and seductive, creeping closer and closer. We’re doomed."
January 14, 2021 –
35.0% "I talked to Chrissie Hynde about it. (I got to know Chrissie when I met Mick at art school. He was trying to get a band together with her, she’s still not in a band but she really wants to be in one.) I said, ‘It’s gimmicky and tokenistic being in an all-girl band, isn’t it?� She told me to shut up and get on with it."
January 14, 2021 –
45.0% "I can’t sleep. I think about the terrifying power that women and mothers have. We don’t need to fight in wars. We have nothing to prove. We have the power to kill and lots of us have used it. How many of you boys have ever killed anyone? I have. I’ve killed a baby. It doesn’t get much worse than that. Maybe your mother has secretly used her power to kill in the past and not told you."
January 16, 2021 –
47.0% "The Slits go through managers very quickly. No one can control us. Also, when girls have an opinion, and the manager is a man, sexual politics rears its ugly head. They don’t hear, We don’t want to play those kinds of venues, we’re trying to create a whole new experience, so even the venues we play have to be thought about carefully. They hear, I don’t want to fuck you."
January 16, 2021 –
55.0% "We listen to ‘Space Is the Place� by Sun Ra whenever we travel through Europe on tour. It works especially well in Switzerland; we put it on at the beginning of the Gotthard Tunnel. The track lasts exactly the length of the journey through the tunnel, twenty minutes. It builds and sways, it’s shamanic and uplifting. If we time it right, the track ends as we burst out into the light on the other side. Orgasmic."
January 16, 2021 –
57.0% "Our first show in LA is at the Whisky a Go Go; we walk onto the stage acting like Stepford Wives because we’ve just watched the film back at the hotel and we think it perfectly describes LA � a tranquil surface with sinister undercurrents, I’m surprised how much I like it."
January 17, 2021 –
67.0% "Now we’re in the car, Hubby is driving. I’m horrified. What the hell is he doing driving like this? He is going to kill my child. Everything is heightened and distorted. Being a new mother is more psychedelic than taking acid. The whole world is different. Dangers are exaggerated, smells are intensified, speed and distance are stretched."
January 17, 2021 –
75.0% " Bloody hell. No guy has talked to me like that for a very long time. I’m high as a kite. For the first time in years I’ve been spoken to like I’m a woman, and most exciting of all, like I’m an artist. Not just a mother, not just a wife. OK, maybe this is the oldest trick in the book to get a girl’s attention, but it doesn’t matter, because the life force that was in Viv Albertine � that has been released."
January 18, 2021 –
96.0% "It’s scary standing in front of audiences singing and playing, struggling to keep a band together, hustling for gigs and money. If happy domesticity came my way, I’d probably grab hold of it and never let it go. I think of what my mum said to me when I was lamenting my loneliness to her last week: ‘Do you really want to be owned again?�"
January 18, 2021 – Shelved as: memoirs
January 18, 2021 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Lorna (new)

Lorna Wow, Joe, an “electric� review. Wonderful quotes. And I love your project this year of reading women authors only.


message 2: by Gabrielle (new) - added it

Gabrielle Yup, definitely have to read this! Thank you for blazing the trail, Joe!


message 3: by Ally (new) - added it

Ally More often than not, it's not the plot or subject matter, but the writing that sells me on a book. Added this to my tbr list!


message 4: by Jan (new)

Jan Good for you, Joe. Many men do not read women authors.


message 5: by Candi (new)

Candi Very cool review, Joe! I knew nothing about this band before today!


message 6: by Julie (new)

Julie G I've never heard of Viv Albertine. What a bizarre name for a female band, "The Slits," and they named their album "Cut?" Ack! I don't even know what the message is there, but the exposed breasts are a bizarre contribution on an album with that name.
I'm sticking to Carly Simon, Joe, but you know I love it when you experience five star reads.


message 7: by Heidi (new)

Heidi Love the review mostly appreciate your 2021 reading goal!! Happy reading!!


message 8: by Joe (new) - rated it 5 stars

Joe Lorna wrote: "Wow, Joe, an “electric� review. Wonderful quotes. And I love your project this year of reading women authors only."

Thank you, Lorna. Choosing a dozen excerpts was difficult. There are so many in this book!


message 9: by Joe (last edited Jan 18, 2021 05:08PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Joe Gabrielle wrote: "Yup, definitely have to read this! Thank you for blazing the trail, Joe!"

Gabrielle! You will love it! Not sure if you've read it, but Carrie Brownstein's memoir Hunger Makes Me a Modern Girl is also very good but is like a road trip to New Mexico compared to Albertine's book which is like a tour of duty in Colonial India.


message 10: by Joe (new) - rated it 5 stars

Joe Ally wrote: "More often than not, it's not the plot or subject matter, but the writing that sells me on a book. Added this to my tbr list!"

I'm the opposite, Ally, but you and most of the book reviewers I like feel the way you do. In this case, Albertine's life never suffered a dull moment, unfortunately for her.


message 11: by Joe (last edited Jan 18, 2021 05:07PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Joe Jan wrote: "Good for you, Joe. Many men do not read women authors."

You only have to take a look at Jo Rowling using "J.K. Rowling" or "Robert Galbraith" as her pen name to realize readers have a problem with female authors. I don't understand it.


message 12: by Joe (new) - rated it 5 stars

Joe Candi wrote: "Very cool review, Joe! I knew nothing about this band before today!"

Thank you, Candi! I knew nothing about them prior to last week. Reading is fundamental!


message 13: by Joe (new) - rated it 5 stars

Joe Julie wrote: "I've never heard of Viv Albertine. What a bizarre name for a female band, "The Slits," and they named their album "Cut?" Ack!"

I agree. The band's founder who Albertine replaced might have come up with the Slits. Viv's first band was named the Flowers of Romance which the lead singer of the Sex Pistols Johnny Rotten thought up and I like much, much better, especially for a punk band. I do think that "Viv Albertine" is a great name for a musician.

Julie wrote: "I'm sticking to Carly Simon, Joe, but you know I love it when you experience five star reads."

If Carly has an autobiography, I'll leave it to you to review it and tell me who "You're So Vain" is about.


message 14: by Joe (new) - rated it 5 stars

Joe Heidi wrote: "Love the review mostly appreciate your 2021 reading goal!! Happy reading!!"

Thank you, Heidi. I'm looking forward to the next stop of the tour.


message 15: by Julie (new)

Julie G Carly Simon has a memoir, Boys in the Trees. I started it and became nauseous quickly. It seemed very self-serving. I'll stick to her music.


message 16: by Barbara (new)

Barbara I just love this book title. 😀


message 17: by Joe (new) - rated it 5 stars

Joe Julie wrote: "Carly Simon has a memoir, Boys in the Trees. I started it and became nauseous quickly. It seemed very self-serving. I'll stick to her music."

Albertine states there were two types of people in the punk rock scene: careerists hitching their ambitions to the hottest music, or those who actually valued and embodied the ideas of punk rock. I can see Simon's book being popular among the careerists.


message 18: by Joe (last edited Jan 18, 2021 05:59PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Joe Barbara wrote: "I just love this book title. 😀"

I think it's meant to be ironic, like the movie Clueless in which the Alicia Silverstone character was not a bobblehead but quite the opposite.


message 19: by Robin (new)

Robin I also had never heard of Viv Albertine OR The Slits. Have I been living under a rock or were they sort of under the radar?? Likely I've been under a rock. Regardless, I'm energized by your reaction to this book, Joe. I'm glad they jolted you to life after your less than stellar experience with Mary Gaitskill.


message 20: by Joe (last edited Jan 18, 2021 06:40PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Joe Robin wrote: "I also had never heard of Viv Albertine OR The Slits. Have I been living under a rock or were they sort of under the radar?? Likely I've been under a rock. Regardless, I'm energized by your reaction to this book, Joe. I'm glad they jolted you to life after your less than stellar experience with Mary Gaitskill."

I'd never heard of the Slits either, Robin. The Clash and Pretenders were two huge bands from Albertine's orbit that I grew up listening to on album rock radio. Indie rock radio later introduced me to the Sex Pistols. Their former bassist Steve Jones has a nationally syndicated radio program based in L.A. called Jonesy's Jukebox that will often have guests like Albertine on. Otherwise, I am your next door neighbor under the rock.




message 21: by Nat (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nat K Fab review Joe. I loved this book. It captures a very specific time & place in music, fashion and society perfectly. Whether or not someone's familiar with Viv and/or The Slits, it's a great read.


message 22: by Joe (last edited Jun 13, 2021 01:22PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Joe Nat wrote: "Fab review Joe. I loved this book. It captures a very specific time & place in music, fashion and society perfectly. Whether or not someone's familiar with Viv and/or The Slits, it's a great read."

I couldn't have said it better, Nat. It's criminal how little I've learned about women in rock by listening to commercial radio. You might like Carrie Brownstein's book Hunger Makes Me a Modern Girl, which introduced me to the Riot Grrrl wave of bands in the '90s and is also outstanding. Both of these memoirs demonstrate how to become a professional musician without obvious musical talent or the ability to write songs easily.


message 23: by Nat (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nat K Joe wrote: "Nat wrote: "Fab review Joe. I loved this book. It captures a very specific time & place in music, fashion and society perfectly. Whether or not someone's familiar with Viv and/or The Slits, it's a ..."

Thanks for the title Joe, I'll check it out.

Looking forward to what's next on your reading list as part of your 2021 all female writers goal.


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