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YA Reading Challenge > Reading Challenge #5 - Ideas & Discussion

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message 51: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) Awesome, thanks Kellee!!


message 52: by Kellee (new)

Kellee Moye (kelleemoye) Sure :)
I shelf my books by genre, so it was easy.


message 53: by Amy (last edited Jun 14, 2010 04:55PM) (new)

Amy I think I'm confused. The challenge is an A to Z right? So the genre reading are bonus points? So let's say I used Shiver. I would get points for the letter S and then bonus points for fantasy?


message 54: by Kellee (new)

Kellee Moye (kelleemoye) Amy wrote: "I think I'm confused. The challenge is an A to Z right? So the genre reading are bonus points?"

Yep.
"You may earn an additional 5 points for each genre you cover. Each genre bonus can only be claimed once per genre. The point is to try to get you to read every genre!"


message 55: by Amy (new)

Amy Okay. For a minute I was wondering if I missed anything. Okay, gotta go plan!


message 56: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) Amy wrote: "I think I'm confused. The challenge is an A to Z right? So the genre reading are bonus points? So let's say I used Shiver. I would get points for the letter S and then bonus points for fantasy?"

AND 5 points for it being an award winner AND 5 points for it being on our group bookshelf AND 5 points for it being on our top novel list!


message 57: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) Amy wrote: "I think I'm confused. The challenge is an A to Z right? So the genre reading are bonus points? So let's say I used Shiver. I would get points for the letter S and then bonus points for fantasy?"

But if you read the sequel, Linger, too you can't claim the fantasy bonus points again. (Although you could claim any other points it may be entitled to!)


message 58: by Angela Sunshine (last edited Jun 14, 2010 10:38PM) (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) I'm going to add LGBT, Religious and Folk/Fairy Tales to the genre list.


message 59: by Amy (new)

Amy Okay so I'm gonna be needing some help with the points thing! LOL!


message 60: by Kellee (new)

Kellee Moye (kelleemoye) AngelaSunshine wrote: "I'm going to add LGBT, Religious and Folk/Fairy Tales to the genre list."

Good call. I'm going to add that to mine too!


message 61: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) LOL, I might too. :-) We'll figure it out together... Basically you get 5 points right off the top for reading a book. Then you get 5 more points for each other question you answer yes to. It won't be hard, you'll get the hang of it!


message 62: by Kellee (new)

Kellee Moye (kelleemoye) I'm making a check list that I can use to determine points. If you copy and paste from the directions, it pretty much gives you the checklist. I just tweaked it a bit.


message 63: by Amy (new)

Amy Oh checklist??? I love lists. I think I might need to type one up myself.


message 64: by Kellee (new)

Kellee Moye (kelleemoye) Kellee wrote: "I have a list of genres if you want to use it:
Action/Adventure
Classic
Dystopian/Apocalyptic
Fantasy
Graphic Novel
Historical Fiction
Horror/Thriller/Suspense
Humor
Manga
Mystery
Nonfiction
Paran..."


Angela, for the genres can we split up some of the plural genres? For example, if we have a dystopian and an apocalyptic, do they count as the same genre or different? Fairy/Folk? Horror/Thriller/Suspense? (Not action/adventure- that's really the same thing...)


message 65: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) Kellee wrote: "Kellee wrote: "I have a list of genres if you want to use it:
Action/Adventure
Classic
Dystopian/Apocalyptic
Fantasy
Graphic Novel
Historical Fiction
Horror/Thriller/Suspense
Humor
Manga
Mystery
N..."


Yes, I think we can split. I think thriller/suspense are the same, though. Do we need to define the different genres? I wonder if people will be confused about dystopian vs. apocalyptic?


message 66: by Kellee (last edited Jun 28, 2010 01:19PM) (new)

Kellee Moye (kelleemoye) Angela,

And post-apocalyptic...
And I think we should add supernatural as well...

I'd probably put up a list of genres and definitions to give boundaries... It's a lot of work though...
:) I can help if you want me to.

Quick question: I put fiction books with mythology under folk tales- does that work?


message 67: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) I'm just catching up in here but I just assumed we'd be using the same genres as we have here at WT - the folder headings. I'll be lucky if I can read one dystopia, the thought of reading all the different subgenres is making me wanna hurl a little. lol.


message 68: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) Kellee wrote: "Angela,

And post-apocalyptic...
And I think we should add supernatural as well...

I'd probably put up a list of genres and definitions to give boundaries... It's a lot of work though...
:) I ..."


That works for me.

And I'd love help with defining them!


message 69: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) Laura wrote: "I'm just catching up in here but I just assumed we'd be using the same genres as we have here at WT - the folder headings. I'll be lucky if I can read one dystopia, the thought of reading all the d..."

I hear ya, sister!


message 70: by Mandy (new)

Mandy (mldavisreads) | 210 comments lol the dystopian books are filling up my alphabet, it's the multiple fantasy subgenres that are making my head hurt :P


message 71: by Kellee (last edited Jun 28, 2010 01:55PM) (new)

Kellee Moye (kelleemoye) Mandy wrote: "lol the dystopian books are filling up my alphabet, it's the multiple fantasy subgenres that are making my head hurt :P"

There are so many fantasy subgenres! They can be separated by theme, place or time and then each section has a ton of subgenres... Trying to figure all of those out would drive me crazy.

That's why I specifically only go as deep as paranormal vs. Folk/Fairy retellings vs. Fantasy :)


message 72: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) Yeah, I don't want to get *too* specific because, frankly, I don't want to have to police everyone's posts! I like the honor method... if you say it's a genre, then I'll believe you.

I think the list is mostly to help people figure out how to fit in what they've read!


message 73: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) My thoughts too, Heather. But I find that the majority of my books fall into 3 or 4 genres...


message 74: by Amy (new)

Amy I think we should keep it somewhat broad. With the fantasy you can split it into vampires, angels, monsters, etc but then it might get too crazy. THe only genre I seriously dont' know is the dystopian. I've never heard that term before.


message 75: by Laura (last edited Jun 29, 2010 05:21AM) (new)

Laura (apenandzen) It's the opposite of utopia, think the world is ending. Except it doesn't actually have to end. That would be apocalyptic dystopia. I'd never heard of it until GR either. Not my favorite genre. Examples are Handmaid's Tale ( which was a terrific book ) and The Hunger Games, I believe.


message 76: by Kellee (new)

Kellee Moye (kelleemoye) *Dystopian: About a "nightmare" world; society characterized by poverty, oppression and instability

*Apocalyptic: About the end of civilization

*Post-Apocalyptic: Set in the world or civilization after a disaster


message 77: by Amy (new)

Amy Thanks! Not sure I want to read any dystopian books now that I know exactly what it is. LOL.


message 78: by Kellee (new)

Kellee Moye (kelleemoye) Amy wrote: "Thanks! Not sure I want to read any dystopian books now that I know exactly what it is. LOL."

Dystopians are fabulous!!! Hunger Games, The Giver, Feed, House of the Scorpion, How I Live Now, Maze Runner, The Knife of Never Letting Go, Last Book of the Universe, Fahrenheit 451, and the Shadow Children series are all wonderful!!


message 79: by Amy (new)

Amy I've read Farenheit (years ago) and have The Maze Runner on my to be read list for this challenge. Lucky me!


message 80: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) Dystopians are some of my favorites, actually. And I didn't know what it meant until GR either. I ask Misty for definitions all the time, hehe...


message 81: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) Becky's the one who explained it to me. And Kandice helped too lol. I'll be reading Knife for the Challenge, but they are very tough books to read because I move in to a book when I read it.


message 82: by Jennifer W, WT Moderator (new)

Jennifer W | 1289 comments Mod
I agree with Heather, I think we should all stick to the list. It creates an even playing field. If someone's going to get credit for Genre: Historical Mystery where Zombies Suck Your Eyes Out, then I want to get credit for Historical Mysteries where Zombies Suck your Eyes Out. ;) But if I don't know that that's a possible genre then I won't go looking for a historical novel where it's a mystery about why the zombies are sucking eyeballs. That's my 2 cents (and I promise not to make another post about zombies and eyeballs... unless I actually find such a book, and then I'd just have to read it. :)


message 83: by Angela Sunshine (last edited Jun 29, 2010 08:42AM) (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) Okay, majority rules! We'll leave the genres as originally stated in post 53, even though some of them could've been split. :)

So here is our official genre list for this challenge!

Action/Adventure
Classic
Dystopian/Apocalyptic/Post-Apocolyptic
Fantasy/Supernatural
Graphic Novel
Historical Fiction
Horror/Thriller/Suspense
Humor
Manga
Mystery
Nonfiction
Paranormal
Poetry
Realistic Fiction/Contemporary
Romance
Sci-Fi
Short Stories
Sports Fiction
War
Multicultural
LGBT
Religious
Folk/Fairy Tale (including retellings)


message 84: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) Bless you. I didn't know war was its own genre...interesting! I guess it could take place in any war?

What about a baseball story that takes place during WWII? Would that qualify as both genres, or do you have to read a book about each?

Sorry for being a pest Angela.


message 85: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) LOL...

New rule: you can only claim ONE genre for any given book. :)


message 86: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) ok....

lol


message 87: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) I didn't realize there were so many stinkin' genres either when I made the bonus points, or I may have skipped it altogether! Haha... But it's good to expand our horizons, right?!


message 88: by Amy (new)

Amy What's the difference between manga and graphic novel?


message 89: by Kristen (last edited Jun 29, 2010 09:50AM) (new)

Kristen Harvey | 1046 comments Manga are usually translated graphic novels from different asian countries - Japan, Korea, China, etc. Their style is pretty similar and once you see a few you'll know what I mean.

Graphic novels are basically anything you'd consider a "comic book" in the old terms.

Examples of manga:
Hot Gimmick
The Queen's Knight 1
Hana-Kimi, Volume 1
The Wallflower 1: Yamatonadeshiko Shichihenge

Examples of graphic novels:
Bone, Volume 1: Out From Boneville
Gloom Cookie, Vol. 1
Courtney Crumrin & The Night Things, Volume 1
Fables: Legends in Exile
Watchmen
Artemis Fowl: The Graphic Novel
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Castle Waiting


message 90: by Amy (new)

Amy I think the manga category is going to be hard for me. I haven't the slightest idea of where to even look for a manga book.


message 91: by Laura (new)

Laura (apenandzen) That's a toughie for me too.


message 92: by Mandy (new)

Mandy (mldavisreads) | 210 comments Most bookstores have a whole section of them, a lot of libraries do too, usually near the teen books. The only one I've read was Kitchen Princess, Volume 1 which was cute.


message 93: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) I haven't/don't read manga either, but I noticed there are actually quite a few books listed on our GR swap. Fruits Basket, Volume 1 and others are up for grabs, and I know that someone made a really cute bookmark based on that series. I'm all about the bookswap...


message 94: by Angela Sunshine (last edited Jul 03, 2010 11:44AM) (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) I just realized that I'd bought my son Maximum Ride (Maximum Ride, The Manga, #1) by James Patterson to go along with the series, so I guess I'll have to incorporate that for my manga fix.


message 95: by Amy (new)

Amy Where is the bookswap located?


message 96: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) If you look under "explore" at the top of the screen, "swap" is at the bottom. You can search for books by title, author, isbn or browse by genre at the right.

I've sent out 75 books to people and received over 50 using the swap. It works really well for the most part, and you just pay for shipping. I know GR pads the shipping a bit because they are the ones who handle the money and create the label. But even still, most books ship for $3-$4.


message 97: by Amy (new)

Amy oh it's similar to the paperback swap site? I use that one but it's hit or miss.


message 98: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) Yes, very similar. Except you pay to ship for the book to be sent to you rather than pay to send one to somebody else.


message 99: by Mandy (new)

Mandy (mldavisreads) | 210 comments Angela, I just read A Swift Pure Cry and am trying to decide if I can classify it as multicultural, because it is set in Ireland and the country and the dialect are integrated into the story. If not, it's okay I will classify it as realistic.


message 100: by Angela Sunshine (new)

Angela Sunshine (angelasunshine) I haven't read the book so I'm not sure how to classify it, but I looked up the definition of culture and it says "The predominating attitudes and behavior that characterize the functioning of a group or organization."

Are the characters behavior/attitude/beliefs different from the norm? Or more specifically, your norm? If you believe they are, then I will count the book for multicultural.

I know that life for the characters in the book Sold is nothing like our lives in America, with child prostitution and ownership of people. But reading Angus, Thongs and Full-Frontal Snogging: Confessions of Georgia Nicolson, even though they are British, they're basically facing the same issues as me. Does that help?


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