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Krista wrote: "Copied from the Iambic Pentameter folder:
re the Liz's Quotable Quotes Task 20.8:

"..and for another type of combo, Tender Is the Night comes from a line in Keats' Ode to the Nightingale

Th..."

I'm excited about this one - just picked it up at the library!

Another one to fit Liz's Quotable Quotes is Let the Great World Spin, which is a quote from Tennyson Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. I've been trying to figure out how to fit it in, and was thinking about Sam's task, I'll have to work now to get to it.

Do we need to have each book approved for a challenge before we read them? OR just the ones we have questions about? AND Where would I ask those questions and to whom would I ask them?

Thanks!

Camille, you need only ask about those books that you're unsure whether they fit. Sam, Krista, and Liz have opened up threads for a few tasks (10.2, 20.1, 20.2, 20.3 and 20.4 and for the Spring Cleaning Tasks), but for the others you should ask them here. They, or the task creators, have the final say, but usually one of us who have been playing awhile can answer.

And welcome!

Question about 20.9 B) current Peace Corps country

I want to read The Fourth Queen: A Novel by Debbie Taylor since this novel is set in Morocco.

Acceptable for this task?

Camille wrote: "Question about 20.9 B) current Peace Corps country

I want to read The Fourth Queen: A Novel by Debbie Taylor since this novel is set in Morocco.

Acceptable for ..."

Morocco is a current Peace Corp host country, so this book works.

Would East of Eden count as a quote?

And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Genesis 4:16

All four of James Herriot's memoirs of his life as a country vet in Yorkshire have a title from a poem by Mrs(?) Cecil Alexander andwas later set to music as a hymn. I don't recognize the hymn but I do know the poem. I stitched it on my daughter's baby quilt that had farm animals on it.


All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful,
The Lord God made them all.

1 Corinthians 13:12 contains the phrase βλεπομεν γαρ αρτι δι εσοπτρου εν αινιγματι', which is rendered in the KJV as "For now we see through a glass, darkly."

Many books have this quote or the last part as a title

Gentleman-rankers out on the spree, damned from here to Eternity.

Rudyard Kipling

Vintery, mintery, cutery, corn,
Apple seed and apple thorn,
Wire, briar, limber lock
Three geese in a flock
One flew East
One flew West
And one flew over the cuckoo's nest

Rebekah wrote: "Vintery, mintery, cutery, corn,
Apple seed and apple thorn,
Wire, briar, limber lock
Three geese in a flock
One flew East
One flew West
And one flew over the cuckoo's nest"

Hey Rebekah, where is this quote from? I was thinking of reading One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest for Task 10.8 (Penguin book list) but if I can work it into a 20 point task, all the better!

Krista wrote: "Hey Rebekah, where is this quote from? I was thinking of reading One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest for Task 10.8 (Penguin book list) but if I can work it into a 20 point task, all the better! "

Google results say it is a nursery rhyme.

Regarding 10.9, the Pi Day task: Does it matter if the orthographical "pi" in the title is not pronounced as such ([pai] instead of [pi])? Would "The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society" qualify for this task?

Jules wrote: "Regarding 10.9, the Pi Day task: Does it matter if the orthographical "pi" in the title is not pronounced as such ([pai] instead of [pi])? Would "The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society" ..."

Ha, ha, Jules...if you're from Mississippi, lots of us pronounce "pie" as "pi"!

Jules wrote: "Regarding 10.9, the Pi Day task: Does it matter if the orthographical "pi" in the title is not pronounced as such ([pai] instead of [pi])? Would "The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society" ..."

For this task there just needs to be a word in the title that starts with the letters "Pi". So yes,
The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society works. Pi is found in Pie.

Krista wrote: "Jules wrote: "Regarding 10.9, the Pi Day task: Does it matter if the orthographical "pi" in the title is not pronounced as such ([pai] instead of [pi])? Would "The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel..."

That's great, thanks! I wasn't 100% sure, so I thought I'd better ask - the relationship between English pronunciation and orthography can be too confusing :)

Alot of poetry collections are "selected poems" like the one I'm looking at for 20.6 Pre-20th Century Poems: Favorite Poems Of Emily Dickinson.

Questions:

10.2 Woman's History Month lists: Emily Dickinson - Poems; could I use this as "combo" style points?

The Canon lists: Emily Dickinson: Complete Poems; the book I'm looking at is "selected" poems; can I still count that as canon style points?

20.2 Rhymes A) - A word in the title rhymes with the author's name : The author's name "Emily Dickinson" is also in the title; can I count 20.2 as combo style points?

Thanks!!

I'm reading books on my Nook and when I link them they are never the same amount of pages. Is there a link for the electronic version of books?

Camille wrote: "I'm reading books on my Nook and when I link them they are never the same amount of pages. Is there a link for the electronic version of books?"

Yes, there is, though sometimes you have to go to the link "more editions".

Liz,

Can one word be enough to qualify as a quote?

I'm thinking of Finn, which is a deliberate reference (and a different-perspective telling) to The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. But I wanted to see if a one-word title would be enough.

Joanna wrote: "Liz,

Can one word be enough to qualify as a quote?

I'm thinking of Finn, which is a deliberate reference (and a different-perspective telling) to The Adventures of Huckleberry F..."

I am going to say that one word does not qualify as a quote. The exception to this is when the entire, one-word, title of a book is quoted in another book, such as Reading Lolita in Tehran

Joanna wrote: "Liz,

Can one word be enough to qualify as a quote?

I'm thinking of Finn, which is a deliberate reference (and a different-perspective telling) to The Adventures of Huckleberry F..."

This is a tough one. I am being to feel like defining this task is like defining pornography (I'll know it when I see it....)

I think of a quote as being a phrase, implying multiple words (and please don't ask me how many words it has to be....) Generally, I am going to say that one word does not qualify as a quote. The exception to this (because I already allowed it) is when the entire one-word title of a book is quoted in another book, such as Reading Lolita in Tehran.

Would the Lincoln Rhyme novels work for 10.6 Lab Lit? He is a forensics expert for the NYPD. I know it may be "iffy" that's why I am asking. Thanks so much...really enjoying the challenge this season!

Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "Can anyone suggest some biographies?"

Jayme, if you click on the arrow to the right of the explore tab at the top of the screen there is an option for "genres". Once on the genre page you can type biography into the search box resulting in a page showing newest releases, giveaways, most read this week and popular just for biographies.

Jayme - what or who are you interested in learning more about? Is there a period in history, an event, or a type of work that you're interested in?

There are so many good biographies out there it would probably be helpful to narrow down your pool of choices by figuring out what/who you want to learn more about.

I tried the genres section of biographies and it is too overwhelming. I found a biography though.

Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "I tried the genres section of biographies and it is too overwhelming. I found a biography though."

I suppose it can be. I like scrolling through the "popular" section until my eyes hurt and my shelves give up due to all the extra books added... :)

Found a website that helps with 20.8 Quotable Quotes:



Enjoy!!

Krista wrote: "Rebekah wrote: "Vintery, mintery, cutery, corn,
Apple seed and apple thorn,
Wire, briar, limber lock
Three geese in a flock
One flew East
One flew West
And one flew over the cuckoo's nest"

..."

Krista, I'm so sorry! I just now saw this.If it's not too late this is what i found on Wikipedia

"The title of the book is a line from a nursery rhyme,

'Vintery, mintery, cutery, corn,
Apple seed and apple thorn,
Wire, briar, limber lock
Three geese in a flock
One flew East
One flew West
And one flew over the cuckoo's nest'

Chief Bromden's grandmother sang this song to him when he was young, and they had a game about it. A playful name for a mental asylum is a "cuckoo's nest", a mentally unstable person can be referred to as "cuckoo". To "fly over a cuckoo's nest" is to go too far, to get yourself in trouble. Though this can refer to the character of McMurphy being too much of a free spirit and eventually angering Nurse Ratched so much that he receives a lobotomy as result, it can also refer to the ending, where two characters died, and Chief Bromden escaped the Asylum or "Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest". It is also known that cuckoos lay their eggs in other birds' nests, and do not have nests of their own. The cuckoo, upon hatching, throws the other birds out of the nest out of instinct."

Mother's Milk appears in many quotes as well

What about T. C. Boyle: The Women for Task 20.10: Potent Potables??

I don't think it fits anything else.

Would the Lincoln Rhyme novels work for 10.6 Lab Lit? He is a forensics expert for the NYPD. I know it may be "iffy" that's why I am asking. Thanks so much...really enjoying the challenge this season!

Deana wrote: "Would the Lincoln Rhyme novels work for 10.6 Lab Lit? He is a forensics expert for the NYPD. I know it may be "iffy" that's why I am asking. Thanks so much...really enjoying the challenge this season!"

I'll except a Forensic expert for Lab Lit.

Liz M wrote: "Deana wrote: "Would the Lincoln Rhyme novels work for 10.6 Lab Lit? He is a forensics expert for the NYPD. I know it may be "iffy" that's why I am asking. Thanks so much...really enjoying the chall..."

You just made my FRIDAY! Thanks!

Rebekah wrote: "Mother's Milk appears in many quotes as well"

Ah, but the task is not about googling a title to find a quote:

20.8 - Liz's Choice: Quotable Quotes
Read a book that deliberately quotes another work in the main title (subtitles are discounted)....

In other words the author used a particular phrase from a specific source as the title of the book, presumably because the poem/biblical passage/work quoted is relevant to his/her book.

Camille wrote: "What about T. C. Boyle: The Women for Task 20.10: Potent Potables??

I don't think it fits anything else."

I can't fit it into any other tasks either. So it can be used for 20.10

The Christ-Haunted Landscape: Faith and Doubt in Southern Fiction by Susan Ketchin is named after a Flannery O'Connor quote, but I am having a hard time finding the source and whether it is from a book or an interview or what. Does anyone have any ideas or can tell me if it is usable for that task? Additionally, would the author's name work for the rhyming task?

Denae wrote: "The Christ-Haunted Landscape: Faith and Doubt in Southern Fiction by Susan Ketchin is named after a Flannery O'Connor quote, but I am having a hard time finding the s..."

I think part of the title is from her essay .

"I think it is safe to say that while the South is hardly Christ-centered, it is most certainly Christ-haunted."
-O'Connor

I don't think the entire title is an exact quote, so that's probably why you had trouble finding it. Other books that use the phrase format it like this-
the "Christ-haunted" landscape.

Liz M wrote: "Rebekah wrote: "Mother's Milk appears in many quotes as well"

Ah, but the task is not about googling a title to find a quote:

20.8 - Liz's Choice: Quotable Quotes
Read a book that deliberately qu..."

Right.
If I was the author, I think I would find the Bible verse most appropriate if you use the two meanings of seethe and kid. It would be more of a pun title. The book is about a couple who both have obnoxious moms (in different ways), that ruin their lives, especially the husband. It's about their relations and how the whole hate vs duty conflict impacts even their children's lives. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk meant not to soak a baby goat in the mother's milk for eating. If we use the modern way it's like, Don't allow the child/mother relationship to become the focus of anger and frustration.
I don't know if that's what the author had in mind but seeing that verse just struck me that way after having read the book. I'm not contesting points but giving a mini-book review (smile)

Rhea wrote: "Denae wrote: "The Christ-Haunted Landscape: Faith and Doubt in Southern Fiction by Susan Ketchin is named after a Flannery O'Connor quote, but I am having a hard time..."

So, because the three words of the title are not used consecutively by O'Connor it's a non-starter, I suppose, a shame, really, it's a good book. Guess I need to keep looking.

This may be self-evident, but can I go back and do one of the Winter tasks for 10.1 even though I was not a group member at the time?

Denae wrote: "This may be self-evident, but can I go back and do one of the Winter tasks for 10.1 even though I was not a group member at the time?"

Yep. :-)

do all books read have to be FICTION? I want to read a non-fiction for Task 20.2: Rhymes.

Camille wrote: "do all books read have to be FICTION? I want to read a non-fiction for Task 20.2: Rhymes."

For RwS (the 10 point & 20 point tasks), most tasks can be fiction or non-fiction. The exception is 10.6 - read a novel in which a scientist plays a major role. The rest of the tasks say read a book.

I wanted to know if you would accept El Morte de Arthur as epic poetry?

Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "I wanted to know if you would accept El Morte de Arthur as epic poetry?"

Jayme, can you link the book you are considering? Wiki & the editions I've found on goodreads indicate that it is prose, not poetry:

"Le Morte d'Arthur is a compilation by Sir Thomas Malory of Romance tales about the legendary King Arthur, Guinevere, Lancelot, and the Knights of the Round Table.... Malory did not invent the stories in this collection; he translated and compiled them..."

Le Morte d'Arthur: Volume 1

I thought they were originally poems but I will pick something else.

Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "I thought they were originally poems but I will pick something else."

Idylls of the King is an epic poem about King Arthur

I had a different question about epic poems that I'll ask while we're on the subject. Does an epic poem have to meet the 100 page requirement?

Evangeline and Other Poems

Also, does a book in verse count for the post 19th century task, or are books in verse that tell a whole story considered novels for the RwS tasks?

Fallout
Street Love