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Night Watch (Discworld, #29; City Watch, #6)
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Night Watch along with its successor Thud! is the pinnacle of Sir Terry’s writing. It’s a story of grief and loss, of attractions and perils of nostalgia, of memory and things lost. It blends disillusioned cynicism and clear hope into something unique, something so “Pratchett� that I, a mere mortal, lack words to precisely describe what it is. All I know is that it reduces me to a blubbering fan who still has something catch in her throat even after reading this book for the umpteenth time.
—ĔĔ�
To reduce this book just to plot description � it is a time travel story and a homage to “Les Miserables�, but with Ankh-Morpork flavor. Commander Vimes accidentally ends up being thrown 30 years back in time when he used to be just a green Watch recruit Sam, and the city was just about to go through an attempt at a bloody revolution against a tyrant � just for another tyrant to take up the mantle. And once Sam’s nostalgia wears off, he realizes that all these people he’s seeing in his past and their “now� are about to die. History is a wheel that’s about to crush those in its way.
He does not let incompetence slide. Or look the other way when it’s easier to do so. He upsets those who are used to being unbothered. He won’t let the big guy bully the little guy - even if interfering is most inconvenient. And all I can do is nod in appreciation - after all, that Beast inside all of us is really just an animal that can be leashed. Every fragging time.
Oh yeah, and Commander Vimes, the Duke of Ankh, a Blackboard Monitor and a former gutter rat still remembers how to survive and how to fight dirty. (Just ask those oxen about that ginger!)
5 hardboiled eggs. 5 lilac sprigs. And those seven graves.
It gets me every time, this book.
—ĔĔ�
Thanks for buddy read, Carol. I hope this time around Sam Vimes wins your heart just a little bit.
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May 02, 2010
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Read 3 times. Last read December 22, 2021 to December 23, 2021.
“Truth! Justice! Freedom! Reasonably Priced Love! And a Hard-Boiled Egg!�I am still angry at the world for taking Terry Pratchett away from us. I miss him � his razor-sharp wit, his pointed humor, the ridiculous clarity with which he must have seen the world. When I can get lost in the pages of his writing - competent, confident, and simply brilliant - the world becomes pretty tolerable.
“Every year he forgot. Well, no. He never forgot. He just put the memories away, like old silverware that you didn’t want to tarnish. And every year they came back, sharp and sparkling, and stabbed him in the heart.�
Night Watch along with its successor Thud! is the pinnacle of Sir Terry’s writing. It’s a story of grief and loss, of attractions and perils of nostalgia, of memory and things lost. It blends disillusioned cynicism and clear hope into something unique, something so “Pratchett� that I, a mere mortal, lack words to precisely describe what it is. All I know is that it reduces me to a blubbering fan who still has something catch in her throat even after reading this book for the umpteenth time.
—ĔĔ�
“If you don’t know where *there* was, you weren’t there,� he said in the same quiet voice.�![]()
“You’re not me, he thought. I don’t think I was ever as young as you. If you’re going to be me, it’s going to take a lot of work. Thirty damn years of being hammered on the anvil of life, you poor bastard. You’ve got it all to come.�
To reduce this book just to plot description � it is a time travel story and a homage to “Les Miserables�, but with Ankh-Morpork flavor. Commander Vimes accidentally ends up being thrown 30 years back in time when he used to be just a green Watch recruit Sam, and the city was just about to go through an attempt at a bloody revolution against a tyrant � just for another tyrant to take up the mantle. And once Sam’s nostalgia wears off, he realizes that all these people he’s seeing in his past and their “now� are about to die. History is a wheel that’s about to crush those in its way.
“Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come round again. That's why they're called revolutions. People die, and nothing changes.�I’m only slightly exaggerating when I say that Sam Vimes is my moral compass. He’s not an optimist or a pessimist � he’s the ultimate realist who tends to see the world just how it is, but who will stubbornly make sure it ends up just a bit better. He’s angry, he’s gruff, he’s not always keeping up with the times, and he’s not always the sharpest spoon in the drawer � but he’s ultimately GOOD. Not preachy-good but bristly-good, without rose-tinted glasses.
—Ĕ�
“As soon as you saw people as things to be measured, they didn’t measure up.�
“Yes, thought Vimes. That’s the way it was. Privilege, which just means “private law.� Two types of people laugh at the law; those that break it and those that make it.�
He does not let incompetence slide. Or look the other way when it’s easier to do so. He upsets those who are used to being unbothered. He won’t let the big guy bully the little guy - even if interfering is most inconvenient. And all I can do is nod in appreciation - after all, that Beast inside all of us is really just an animal that can be leashed. Every fragging time.
“He wanted to go home. He wanted it so much that he trembled at the thought. But if the price of that was selling good men to the night, if the price was filling those graves, if the price was not fighting with every trick he knew � then it was too high.
It wasn’t a decision he was making, he knew that. It happened far below the levels of the brain where decisions were made. It was something built in. There was no universe, anywhere, where a Sam Vimes would give in on this, because if he did then he wouldn’t be Sam Vimes anymore.�
Oh yeah, and Commander Vimes, the Duke of Ankh, a Blackboard Monitor and a former gutter rat still remembers how to survive and how to fight dirty. (Just ask those oxen about that ginger!)
“You’d like Freedom, Truth, and Justice, wouldn’t you, Comrade Sergeant?� said Reg encouragingly.It’s a pleasure for me to see again and again, on all those countless rereads, how well-done Pratchett’s books are. He trusts his readers to get it without beating them over the head with it, and the readers can trust him to get it right, every time.
“I’d like a hard-boiled egg,� said Vimes, shaking the match out.
There was some nervous laughter, but Reg looked offended.
“In the circumstances, Sergeant, I think we should set our sights a little higher—�
“Well, yes, we could,� said Vimes, coming down the steps. He glanced at the sheets of paper in front of Reg. The man cared. He really did. And he was serious. He really was. “But…well, Reg, tomorrow the sun will come up again, and I’m pretty sure that whatever happens we won’t have found Freedom, and there won’t be a whole lot of Justice, and I’m damn sure we won’t have found Truth. But it’s just possible that I might get a hard-boiled egg.�
5 hardboiled eggs. 5 lilac sprigs. And those seven graves.
It gets me every time, this book.
“No,� said Vimes, coming to a halt under a lamp by the crypt entrance. “How dare you? How dare you! At this time! In this place! They did the job they didn’t have to do, and they died doing it, and you can’t give them anything. Do you understand? They fought for those who’d been abandoned, they fought for one another, and they were betrayed. Men like them always are. What good would a statue be? It’d just inspire new fools to believe they’re going to be heroes. They wouldn’t want that. Just let them be. Forever.�
—ĔĔ�
Thanks for buddy read, Carol. I hope this time around Sam Vimes wins your heart just a little bit.
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“But here's some advice, boy. Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That's why they're called revolutions.”
― Night Watch
― Night Watch

“You'd like Freedom, Truth, and Justice, wouldn't you, Comrade Sergeant?' said Reg encouragingly.
'I'd like a hard-boiled egg,' said Vimes, shaking the match out.
There was some nervous laughter, but Reg looked offended.
'In the circumstances, Sergeant, I think we should set our sights a little higher--'
'Well, yes, we could,' said Vimes, coming down the steps. He glanced at the sheets of papers in front of Reg. The man cared. He really did. And he was serious. He really was. 'But...well, Reg, tomorrow the sun will come up again, and I'm pretty sure that whatever happens we won't have found Freedom, and there won't be a whole lot of Justice, and I'm damn sure we won't have found Truth. But it's just possible that I might get a hard-boiled egg.”
― Night Watch
'I'd like a hard-boiled egg,' said Vimes, shaking the match out.
There was some nervous laughter, but Reg looked offended.
'In the circumstances, Sergeant, I think we should set our sights a little higher--'
'Well, yes, we could,' said Vimes, coming down the steps. He glanced at the sheets of papers in front of Reg. The man cared. He really did. And he was serious. He really was. 'But...well, Reg, tomorrow the sun will come up again, and I'm pretty sure that whatever happens we won't have found Freedom, and there won't be a whole lot of Justice, and I'm damn sure we won't have found Truth. But it's just possible that I might get a hard-boiled egg.”
― Night Watch

“That's the way it was. Privilege, which just means 'private law.' Two types of people laugh at the law; those that break it and those that make it.”
― Night Watch
― Night Watch

“People on the side of The People always ended up disappointed, in any case. They found that The People tended not to be grateful or appreciative or forward-thinking or obedient. The People tended to be small-minded and conservative and not very clever and were even distrustful of cleverness. And so, the children of the revolution were faced with the age-old problem: it wasn’t that you had the wrong kind of government, which was obvious, but that you had the wrong kind of people. As soon as you saw people as things to be measured, they didn’t measure up. What”
― Night Watch
― Night Watch

“One of the hardest lessons of young Sam’s life had been finding out that the people in charge weren’t in charge. It had been finding out that governments were not, on the whole, staffed by people who had a grip, and that plans were what people made instead of thinking.”
― Night Watch
― Night Watch
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"“You’re not me, he thought. I don’t think I was ever as young as you. If you’re going to be me, it’s going to take a lot of work. Thirty damn years of being hammered on the anvil of life, you poor bastard. You’ve got it all to come.�"
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Well, there’s only one question that needs to be answered when pondering that: “Were you there?�
And if you don’t know where “there� was, you weren’t there.
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I don’t think we earned that right.
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Well, there’s only one question that needs to be answered whe..."
Yet in our way we were. Which is where the conflict arises!

You are right! Technically we were. Need to adjust my thinking over here. Okay, hand me that lilac sprig.

Oh, nice! That subcycle that is centered on the City Watch - with “Guards! Guards!� the first book in it - is my favorite. It starts a bit more parody-like, but there are already the seeds of what makes these characters great. When I reread these books, it was so interesting how Pratchett developed all these characters and the city of Ankh-Morpork itself. I’m almost envious that you get to experience it all for the first time!


Great! That will be a bit of a tonal shift, between Amazing Maurice and this one.

Oh, nice! That subcycle that is centered on the City Watch - with “Guards! Guards!� the first book in it - is my favorite..."
I was recommended this and Mort to start with. This was available on sale. So excited to pretend to cure my mental issues with much beloved escapism. I've no explanation why I've never read Discworld before. Almost envious? I'll be sure to nudge that into complete envy. 🖤

I would definitely advise to start with Guards! Guards! rather than Mort. His City Watch cycle is great, and so are the Witches books (starting with Wyrd Sisters. I also love Hogfather - Pratchett’s take on Christmas featuring Death taking on

When I start it I will definitely reach out for some handholding.

Happy holidays, if you celebrate one of them!

Happy holidays, if you celebrate one of them!"
Thanks, Fiona! This world needed more Pratchett, but I guess we’ll have to do with his legacy. All I know is that if that hypothetical situation that is sometimes used in ice-breaker exercises � which famous person you’d like to have dinner with � I’m inviting Pratchett and Le Guin.
And I suppose I at least celebrate Hogswatch :)

Happy holidays, if you celebrate one of th..."
Excellent dinner choices - and imagine the conversation they'd have!
A Happy Hogswatch to you, in that case! Hopefully the boars go easy on your roof :)

Happy Hogswatch to you as well! I’ll reinforce the roof :)

I can never review a Pratchett book properly because I feel he is unexplainable� your reviews are on a whole new level. I feel that I get a whole new perspective on the book from your review.

I can never review a Pratchett book properly because I feel he is unexplainable� your reviews are on a whole new level. I feel that I get a whole new perspective on the boo..."
Thanks, Marta! It’s such a nice thing to say :) Pratchett’s books are just so special to me.


Im glad I’m nit the only one who thinks that! I’ve seen some people dislike these because they stopped being lighthearted satire and became darker and less funny but more angry � but to me that was the huge increase in quality. Pratchett’s works around that time were pretty solid.

Just think of Reg Shoe waving a flag on the barricades :)
Nobby makes a funny Gavroche as well.

You may be on to something here 😆

Pratchett fans forever 💛

I know, right? Who can be a better street urchin than Nobby?

Pratchett fans forever 💛"
Pratchett fans unite!

It certainly met my approval and much more! I am so happy that you read it again (which gave me a legit reason � other than being a terminal case of a fangirl � to read it again as well) and that this time Pratchett hit the right note for you. You are an awesome reading buddy 😄

Thanks, Megan! It’s an excellent book, so it was easy to write a good review.


Definitely Guards! Guards!. It’s the first in the City Watch series and so much fun.


Join our impromptu imaginary Sam Vimes fan club!


Pratchett fans forever 💛"
I actually just removed a “friend� (guy who sent me an invite to swell his list of followers but never even liked a post of mine) because he didn’t like Pratchett. I mean, who doesn’t actually like Pratchett? Some may not know him or may not get him, but not liking?? What can we possibly have in common?

Your profile picture says it all :)

Pratchett fans forever 💛"
I actually just removed a “friend� (guy who sent me an invite to sw..."
That’s a great criterion for selecting friends. Don’t like Pratchett � can’t possibly be friends. That *should* be my friend challenge question on GR: “What do you think of Terry Pratchett?�

This used to be my favorite until I read Thud! which I loved even more. I suppose I’d call both of those his masterpieces.

I might steal that idea. My current question is: “Why do you want to be my friend? (if you do not answer I will ignore your request)�
It is amazing how many do NOT answer. I mean, do I want a friend who cannot read or cannot write on GOODREADS?

I might steal that idea. My current question is: “Why do you want to be my friend? (if..."
Apparently I was told that on the app people don’t necessarily see a friend question. But that’s the only way I found to keep friend requests semi-manageable.

I did not know that.
I am not as popular as you but I would like my friends to be interactive and most definitely not spambots.

I did not know that..."
Oh yeah, it’s like those people who have 5 books and 5K friends. I mean, why?


Can you try to friend me on the app and let me know if you see my question? I definitely have a question, and now I am curious.
I don’t use the app because it lacks many functions of the website.