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Night Watch by Terry Pratchett
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it was amazing
bookshelves: pratchett, favorites, 2012-reads, 2015-reads, 2017-reads, 2016-reads, 2013-reads, 2014-reads, 2021-reads
Read 3 times. Last read December 22, 2021 to December 23, 2021.

“Truth! Justice! Freedom! Reasonably Priced Love! And a Hard-Boiled Egg!�
I am still angry at the world for taking Terry Pratchett away from us. I miss him � his razor-sharp wit, his pointed humor, the ridiculous clarity with which he must have seen the world. When I can get lost in the pages of his writing - competent, confident, and simply brilliant - the world becomes pretty tolerable.
“Every year he forgot. Well, no. He never forgot. He just put the memories away, like old silverware that you didn’t want to tarnish. And every year they came back, sharp and sparkling, and stabbed him in the heart.�

Night Watch along with its successor Thud! is the pinnacle of Sir Terry’s writing. It’s a story of grief and loss, of attractions and perils of nostalgia, of memory and things lost. It blends disillusioned cynicism and clear hope into something unique, something so “Pratchett� that I, a mere mortal, lack words to precisely describe what it is. All I know is that it reduces me to a blubbering fan who still has something catch in her throat even after reading this book for the umpteenth time.

—ĔĔ�
“If you don’t know where *there* was, you weren’t there,� he said in the same quiet voice.�



“You’re not me, he thought. I don’t think I was ever as young as you. If you’re going to be me, it’s going to take a lot of work. Thirty damn years of being hammered on the anvil of life, you poor bastard. You’ve got it all to come.�

To reduce this book just to plot description � it is a time travel story and a homage to “Les Miserables�, but with Ankh-Morpork flavor. Commander Vimes accidentally ends up being thrown 30 years back in time when he used to be just a green Watch recruit Sam, and the city was just about to go through an attempt at a bloody revolution against a tyrant � just for another tyrant to take up the mantle. And once Sam’s nostalgia wears off, he realizes that all these people he’s seeing in his past and their “now� are about to die. History is a wheel that’s about to crush those in its way.
“Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come round again. That's why they're called revolutions. People die, and nothing changes.�
—Ĕ�
“As soon as you saw people as things to be measured, they didn’t measure up.�
I’m only slightly exaggerating when I say that Sam Vimes is my moral compass. He’s not an optimist or a pessimist � he’s the ultimate realist who tends to see the world just how it is, but who will stubbornly make sure it ends up just a bit better. He’s angry, he’s gruff, he’s not always keeping up with the times, and he’s not always the sharpest spoon in the drawer � but he’s ultimately GOOD. Not preachy-good but bristly-good, without rose-tinted glasses.
“Yes, thought Vimes. That’s the way it was. Privilege, which just means “private law.� Two types of people laugh at the law; those that break it and those that make it.�

He does not let incompetence slide. Or look the other way when it’s easier to do so. He upsets those who are used to being unbothered. He won’t let the big guy bully the little guy - even if interfering is most inconvenient. And all I can do is nod in appreciation - after all, that Beast inside all of us is really just an animal that can be leashed. Every fragging time.
“He wanted to go home. He wanted it so much that he trembled at the thought. But if the price of that was selling good men to the night, if the price was filling those graves, if the price was not fighting with every trick he knew � then it was too high.

It wasn’t a decision he was making, he knew that. It happened far below the levels of the brain where decisions were made. It was something built in. There was no universe, anywhere, where a Sam Vimes would give in on this, because if he did then he wouldn’t be Sam Vimes anymore.�

Oh yeah, and Commander Vimes, the Duke of Ankh, a Blackboard Monitor and a former gutter rat still remembers how to survive and how to fight dirty. (Just ask those oxen about that ginger!)
“You’d like Freedom, Truth, and Justice, wouldn’t you, Comrade Sergeant?� said Reg encouragingly.
“I’d like a hard-boiled egg,� said Vimes, shaking the match out.
There was some nervous laughter, but Reg looked offended.
“In the circumstances, Sergeant, I think we should set our sights a little higher—�
“Well, yes, we could,� said Vimes, coming down the steps. He glanced at the sheets of paper in front of Reg. The man cared. He really did. And he was serious. He really was. “But…well, Reg, tomorrow the sun will come up again, and I’m pretty sure that whatever happens we won’t have found Freedom, and there won’t be a whole lot of Justice, and I’m damn sure we won’t have found Truth. But it’s just possible that I might get a hard-boiled egg.�
It’s a pleasure for me to see again and again, on all those countless rereads, how well-done Pratchett’s books are. He trusts his readers to get it without beating them over the head with it, and the readers can trust him to get it right, every time.

5 hardboiled eggs. 5 lilac sprigs. And those seven graves.

It gets me every time, this book.
“No,� said Vimes, coming to a halt under a lamp by the crypt entrance. “How dare you? How dare you! At this time! In this place! They did the job they didn’t have to do, and they died doing it, and you can’t give them anything. Do you understand? They fought for those who’d been abandoned, they fought for one another, and they were betrayed. Men like them always are. What good would a statue be? It’d just inspire new fools to believe they’re going to be heroes. They wouldn’t want that. Just let them be. Forever.�

—ĔĔ�

Thanks for buddy read, Carol. I hope this time around Sam Vimes wins your heart just a little bit.
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Terry Pratchett, Night Watch

Terry Pratchett
“But here's some advice, boy. Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That's why they're called revolutions.”
Terry Pratchett, Night Watch

Terry Pratchett
“You'd like Freedom, Truth, and Justice, wouldn't you, Comrade Sergeant?' said Reg encouragingly.
'I'd like a hard-boiled egg,' said Vimes, shaking the match out.
There was some nervous laughter, but Reg looked offended.
'In the circumstances, Sergeant, I think we should set our sights a little higher--'
'Well, yes, we could,' said Vimes, coming down the steps. He glanced at the sheets of papers in front of Reg. The man cared. He really did. And he was serious. He really was. 'But...well, Reg, tomorrow the sun will come up again, and I'm pretty sure that whatever happens we won't have found Freedom, and there won't be a whole lot of Justice, and I'm damn sure we won't have found Truth. But it's just possible that I might get a hard-boiled egg.”
Terry Pratchett, Night Watch

Terry Pratchett
“That's the way it was. Privilege, which just means 'private law.' Two types of people laugh at the law; those that break it and those that make it.”
Terry Pratchett, Night Watch

Terry Pratchett
“People on the side of The People always ended up disappointed, in any case. They found that The People tended not to be grateful or appreciative or forward-thinking or obedient. The People tended to be small-minded and conservative and not very clever and were even distrustful of cleverness. And so, the children of the revolution were faced with the age-old problem: it wasn’t that you had the wrong kind of government, which was obvious, but that you had the wrong kind of people. As soon as you saw people as things to be measured, they didn’t measure up. What”
Terry Pratchett, Night Watch

Terry Pratchett
“One of the hardest lessons of young Sam’s life had been finding out that the people in charge weren’t in charge. It had been finding out that governments were not, on the whole, staffed by people who had a grip, and that plans were what people made instead of thinking.”
Terry Pratchett, Night Watch


Reading Progress

May 2, 2010 – Shelved
April 5, 2015 – Started Reading
July 19, 2015 – Finished Reading
May 1, 2017 – Started Reading
June 29, 2017 – Finished Reading
December 22, 2021 – Started Reading
December 22, 2021 –
28.0% "“You’re not me, he thought. I don’t think I was ever as young as you. If you’re going to be me, it’s going to take a lot of work. Thirty damn years of being hammered on the anvil of life, you poor bastard. You’ve got it all to come.�"
December 23, 2021 –
55.0% "“But here’s some advice, boy. Don’t put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That’s why they’re called revolutions. People die, and nothing changes.�"
December 23, 2021 – Finished Reading

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[Name Redacted] To wear the lavender or not to wear the lavender? A debate dividing the Pratchett fandom for two decades now!


message 2: by Nataliya (last edited Dec 23, 2021 05:48PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nataliya [Name Redacted] wrote: "To wear the lavender or not to wear the lavender? A debate dividing the Pratchett fandom for two decades now!"

Well, there’s only one question that needs to be answered when pondering that: “Were you there?�

And if you don’t know where “there� was, you weren’t there.
—Ĕ�
I don’t think we earned that right.


[Name Redacted] Nataliya wrote: "[Name Redacted] wrote: "To wear the lavender or not to wear the lavender? A debate dividing the Pratchett fandom for two decades now!"

Well, there’s only one question that needs to be answered whe..."


Yet in our way we were. Which is where the conflict arises!


Nataliya [Name Redacted] wrote: "Yet in our way we were. Which is where the conflict arises!"

You are right! Technically we were. Need to adjust my thinking over here. Okay, hand me that lilac sprig.


message 5: by Mwanamali (new)

Mwanamali I'll be reading Guards Guards next year. My first Pratchett


Nataliya mwana wrote: "I'll be reading Guards Guards next year. My first Pratchett"

Oh, nice! That subcycle that is centered on the City Watch - with “Guards! Guards!� the first book in it - is my favorite. It starts a bit more parody-like, but there are already the seeds of what makes these characters great. When I reread these books, it was so interesting how Pratchett developed all these characters and the city of Ankh-Morpork itself. I’m almost envious that you get to experience it all for the first time!


Tanya I just finished reading the Amazing Maurice the other day! I'm reading them in order so this one's next up for me.


Nataliya Tanya wrote: "I just finished reading the Amazing Maurice the other day! I'm reading them in order so this one's next up for me."

Great! That will be a bit of a tonal shift, between Amazing Maurice and this one.


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Mwanamali Nataliya wrote: "mwana wrote: "I'll be reading Guards Guards next year. My first Pratchett"

Oh, nice! That subcycle that is centered on the City Watch - with “Guards! Guards!� the first book in it - is my favorite..."


I was recommended this and Mort to start with. This was available on sale. So excited to pretend to cure my mental issues with much beloved escapism. I've no explanation why I've never read Discworld before. Almost envious? I'll be sure to nudge that into complete envy. 🖤


Nataliya It’s escapism to a point; right when you are all happy Pratchett shifts the tone to serious and even angry for a bit, but then he’s back to witty. The earlier books tend to have more humor; the later books more seriousness.

I would definitely advise to start with Guards! Guards! rather than Mort. His City Watch cycle is great, and so are the Witches books (starting with Wyrd Sisters. I also love Hogfather - Pratchett’s take on Christmas featuring Death taking on Գٲ’s Hogfather’s role. It’s lovely.


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Mwanamali Nataliya wrote: "It’s escapism to a point; right when you are all happy Pratchett shifts the tone to serious and even angry for a bit, but then he’s back to witty. The earlier books tend to have more humor; the lat..."

When I start it I will definitely reach out for some handholding.


message 12: by Fiona (new)

Fiona Knight Fantastic review, and I couldn't agree more about missing what he brought to the world. At least he left infinitely rereadable books behind.
Happy holidays, if you celebrate one of them!


Nataliya Fiona wrote: "Fantastic review, and I couldn't agree more about missing what he brought to the world. At least he left infinitely rereadable books behind.
Happy holidays, if you celebrate one of them!"


Thanks, Fiona! This world needed more Pratchett, but I guess we’ll have to do with his legacy. All I know is that if that hypothetical situation that is sometimes used in ice-breaker exercises � which famous person you’d like to have dinner with � I’m inviting Pratchett and Le Guin.

And I suppose I at least celebrate Hogswatch :)


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Fiona Knight Nataliya wrote: "Fiona wrote: "Fantastic review, and I couldn't agree more about missing what he brought to the world. At least he left infinitely rereadable books behind.
Happy holidays, if you celebrate one of th..."


Excellent dinner choices - and imagine the conversation they'd have!

A Happy Hogswatch to you, in that case! Hopefully the boars go easy on your roof :)


Nataliya They whole dinner would have me not say a word but just wordlessly absorb all the wit and wisdom as the two greats relax over some wine.

Happy Hogswatch to you as well! I’ll reinforce the roof :)


Marta I still mourn him, too.

I can never review a Pratchett book properly because I feel he is unexplainable� your reviews are on a whole new level. I feel that I get a whole new perspective on the book from your review.


Nataliya Marta wrote: "I still mourn him, too.

I can never review a Pratchett book properly because I feel he is unexplainable� your reviews are on a whole new level. I feel that I get a whole new perspective on the boo..."


Thanks, Marta! It’s such a nice thing to say :) Pratchett’s books are just so special to me.


Melindam I absolutely agree: Night Watch and Thud! are a category if their own within Discworld and the City Watch subseries. ♡♡�


Bronwyn Knox Good call on the Les Misérables homage. I've read this three times now but somehow missed that.


message 20: by Nataliya (last edited Dec 27, 2021 09:01PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nataliya Melindam wrote: "I absolutely agree: Night Watch and Thud! are a category if their own within Discworld and the City Watch subseries. ♡♡�"

Im glad I’m nit the only one who thinks that! I’ve seen some people dislike these because they stopped being lighthearted satire and became darker and less funny but more angry � but to me that was the huge increase in quality. Pratchett’s works around that time were pretty solid.


Nataliya Bronwyn wrote: "Good call on the Les Misérables homage. I've read this three times now but somehow missed that."

Just think of Reg Shoe waving a flag on the barricades :)
Nobby makes a funny Gavroche as well.


Melindam It also makes me think of the painting "Liberty leading the People" by Delacroix. :)


Nataliya Melindam wrote: "It also makes me think of the painting "Liberty leading the People" by Delacroix. :)"

You may be on to something here 😆


Melindam But Nobby as Gavroche is a splendid idea. I love it. :D


Erika Pensaert This is how I decide to follow people on ŷ: how they review my favourite books.
Pratchett fans forever 💛


Nataliya Melindam wrote: "But Nobby as Gavroche is a splendid idea. I love it. :D"

I know, right? Who can be a better street urchin than Nobby?


Nataliya Erika wrote: "This is how I decide to follow people on ŷ: how they review my favourite books.
Pratchett fans forever 💛"


Pratchett fans unite!


carol. What a sweet post-script! I hope my new review meets your approval. In fact, I think it will. 😏


Nataliya carol. wrote: "What a sweet post-script! I hope my new review meets your approval. In fact, I think it will. 😏"

It certainly met my approval and much more! I am so happy that you read it again (which gave me a legit reason � other than being a terminal case of a fangirl � to read it again as well) and that this time Pratchett hit the right note for you. You are an awesome reading buddy 😄


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Megan Excellent review!


Nataliya Megan wrote: "Excellent review!"

Thanks, Megan! It’s an excellent book, so it was easy to write a good review.


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Kerry I read the first four Discworld books and Going Postal long ago. Can you suggest a great random place to dive in again.


Nataliya Kerry wrote: "I read the first four Discworld books and Going Postal long ago. Can you suggest a great random place to dive in again."

Definitely Guards! Guards!. It’s the first in the City Watch series and so much fun.


Elena Linville I love love LOVE the Night Watch series in the Discworld! Sam Vimes is my favorite character ever. This one pulled at all my heartstrings too.


Nataliya Elena wrote: "I love love LOVE the Night Watch series in the Discworld! Sam Vimes is my favorite character ever. This one pulled at all my heartstrings too."

Join our impromptu imaginary Sam Vimes fan club!


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Ola G This is my favorite Pratchett book, and I love it to pieces. And, as for Sam Vimes fans, just take a look at my profile pic ;)


Elena Linville Where do I sign to join lol?


Marta Erika wrote: "This is how I decide to follow people on ŷ: how they review my favourite books.
Pratchett fans forever 💛"


I actually just removed a “friend� (guy who sent me an invite to swell his list of followers but never even liked a post of mine) because he didn’t like Pratchett. I mean, who doesn’t actually like Pratchett? Some may not know him or may not get him, but not liking?? What can we possibly have in common?


Nataliya Ola wrote: "This is my favorite Pratchett book, and I love it to pieces. And, as for Sam Vimes fans, just take a look at my profile pic ;)"

Your profile picture says it all :)


Nataliya Elena wrote: "Where do I sign to join lol?"

Co-found, you mean :)


Nataliya Marta wrote: "Erika wrote: "This is how I decide to follow people on ŷ: how they review my favourite books.
Pratchett fans forever 💛"

I actually just removed a “friend� (guy who sent me an invite to sw..."


That’s a great criterion for selecting friends. Don’t like Pratchett � can’t possibly be friends. That *should* be my friend challenge question on GR: “What do you think of Terry Pratchett?�


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Claire This is his masterpiece I think. And the original cover is the best as well.


Nataliya Claire wrote: "This is his masterpiece I think. And the original cover is the best as well."

This used to be my favorite until I read Thud! which I loved even more. I suppose I’d call both of those his masterpieces.


Marta Nataliya wrote: "That *should* be my friend challenge question on GR: “What do you think of Terry Pratchett?�

I might steal that idea. My current question is: “Why do you want to be my friend? (if you do not answer I will ignore your request)�

It is amazing how many do NOT answer. I mean, do I want a friend who cannot read or cannot write on GOODREADS?


Nataliya Marta wrote: "Nataliya wrote: "That *should* be my friend challenge question on GR: “What do you think of Terry Pratchett?�

I might steal that idea. My current question is: “Why do you want to be my friend? (if..."


Apparently I was told that on the app people don’t necessarily see a friend question. But that’s the only way I found to keep friend requests semi-manageable.


Marta Nataliya wrote: "Apparently I was told that on the app people don’t necessarily see a friend question. But that’s the only way I found to keep friend requests semi-manageable."

I did not know that.
I am not as popular as you but I would like my friends to be interactive and most definitely not spambots.


Nataliya Marta wrote: "Nataliya wrote: "Apparently I was told that on the app people don’t necessarily see a friend question. But that’s the only way I found to keep friend requests semi-manageable."

I did not know that..."


Oh yeah, it’s like those people who have 5 books and 5K friends. I mean, why?


Erika Pensaert I use the app and I have never seen a friend question. Maybe that is why a lot of my friend requests are ignored.


Marta Erika wrote: "I use the app and I have never seen a friend question. Maybe that is why a lot of my friend requests are ignored."

Can you try to friend me on the app and let me know if you see my question? I definitely have a question, and now I am curious.

I don’t use the app because it lacks many functions of the website.


Nataliya Erika wrote: "I use the app and I have never seen a friend question. Maybe that is why a lot of my friend requests are ignored."

Hmmm, so the rumor may be true then.
I don’t use the app because when I tried I found it godawful and lacking functionality. So I switched to desktop version on my devices.


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