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Notes from Underground
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Imagine 19th century Russian literature as a loud boisterous party. Here's Pushkin, basking in the center of attention, charming up all the ladies. Here are Chekhov and Gogol at the heart of a passionate intellectual argument. Here's Count Tolstoy, busily serving canapés while rejoicing in the pleasure of work, stopping only to chat about the pleasures of countryside with Turgenev.
But where's Dostoyevsky? Oh, there he is, sitting by himself in a dark corner, dead broke after a high-stakes cards game, giving you the unsettling intense heavy glare that easily penetrates right into the darkest best-guarded secrets of your soul, the glare that clearly says 'been there, done that, been repulsed by what I saw.' And if he looks like he's judging you, it's because he is. And you deserve it, probably.
Fyodor Mikhailovich, you don't make liking you easy, do you?

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This book is brilliant. Unpleasant and hard to read, disturbing and unsettling, and really brilliant. But before I go into my long-winded discussion, let me get this off my chest, for the honesty purposes and full disclosure:
The person who, in ramblings about how rotten society is helps it rot a little bit more.
In short, he created a character the sheer mention of whom makes me want to take a shower and wash all of the above off me.
He created a character that with all of the above scarily reminds you of so many people you know - and maybe sometimes even yourself.
And that's what really disturbing about it.

And this disturbing part is exactly what makes me from time to time abandon the fun bits of the Russian literature party and instead join Fyodor Mikhailovich in his dark gloomy corner for a minute or so. Because he makes me, unpleasant as it is, take a long critical look at myself, so that I can try to keep myself out of this "underground". Because he "gets" to me even if I don't quite "get" him.
Because it's not a story, it's a mirror, and you have to work hard to make it not be so.
I don't know how to rate this book. I did not enjoy it (how can you?) but it made a sizeable imprint on my soul. Stars are irrelevant here, so I'll randomly pick something. 4?
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Written in Munich airport, stuck on an unscheduled 20hr layover, with almost no sleep and beginnings of jet lag.
But where's Dostoyevsky? Oh, there he is, sitting by himself in a dark corner, dead broke after a high-stakes cards game, giving you the unsettling intense heavy glare that easily penetrates right into the darkest best-guarded secrets of your soul, the glare that clearly says 'been there, done that, been repulsed by what I saw.' And if he looks like he's judging you, it's because he is. And you deserve it, probably.
Fyodor Mikhailovich, you don't make liking you easy, do you?

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This book is brilliant. Unpleasant and hard to read, disturbing and unsettling, and really brilliant. But before I go into my long-winded discussion, let me get this off my chest, for the honesty purposes and full disclosure:
I finally can admit - I don't "get" Dostoyevsky. Perhaps my mind is a tad too shallow for his literary depths; perhaps my inner ball of sunshine deep deep inside refuses to see the world through Dostoyevsky's disillusioned glare.In this short and strange book, Dostoyevsky manages to create perhaps the most disturbing image of a human being in the entire 19th century literature. Let me jot down just a few of the epithets that came pouring into my head with every page I read: petty, bitter, miserly, resentful, selfish, pitiful, entitled, cruel, deeply unpleasant and frankly miserable. The person who finds disgusting satisfaction in little acts of petty nastiness. The person who perversely enjoys stewing in self-imposed misery and figurative self-flagellation over every perceived slight, building exquisite mountains out of molehills. The person who would thrive on humiliating others, but if unable to achieve that would just as happily thrive on self-humiliation and self-loathing. The person who in the confines of his little mind hides a true despot, but gets his sense of self-worth by assuming that everyone else is beneath his miserable but clearly enlightened and misunderstood self - despite the world pointing to the contrary. The person who'd quietly spit into your bowl if you haven't offered to share it with him - and then will internally torment himself for years over the act, feeling that the act of torment is enough to elevate him out of the mud.
But I don't need to "get" him to know the greatness when I see it, to respect his sharp writing, his keenly observant eye that does not let anything slip away, and his scarily clear perceptions of people and the layers in which they dress up their otherwise petty and pathetic selves.
The person who, in ramblings about how rotten society is helps it rot a little bit more.
In short, he created a character the sheer mention of whom makes me want to take a shower and wash all of the above off me.
He created a character that with all of the above scarily reminds you of so many people you know - and maybe sometimes even yourself.
And that's what really disturbing about it.

And this disturbing part is exactly what makes me from time to time abandon the fun bits of the Russian literature party and instead join Fyodor Mikhailovich in his dark gloomy corner for a minute or so. Because he makes me, unpleasant as it is, take a long critical look at myself, so that I can try to keep myself out of this "underground". Because he "gets" to me even if I don't quite "get" him.
Because it's not a story, it's a mirror, and you have to work hard to make it not be so.
I don't know how to rate this book. I did not enjoy it (how can you?) but it made a sizeable imprint on my soul. Stars are irrelevant here, so I'll randomly pick something. 4?
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Written in Munich airport, stuck on an unscheduled 20hr layover, with almost no sleep and beginnings of jet lag.
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I stopped reading anything for a couple of weeks after reading this book. The slightest whisps of being like the underground man were terrifying prospects. Rarely has a book made me this introspective.

I stopped reading anything for a couple of weeks after reading this book. The slightest whisps of being l..."
Oh, I had to stop multiple times while reading this book, any time I was about to say, "Hey, I agree! Me too!" - and then realize in horror what that implies. Dostoyevsky sure knew how to write unsettling books, didn't he?
Becky wrote: "Best disclaimer to a review lol. Surprise layovers are the worst"
I know! On a bright side, I'm an expert at saying "Hallo" in German now. And thanks to my job, my skills of being able to fall asleep anywhere on demand came in quite handy.
Lyn wrote: "I need to read this one again"
You do! And I'll be waiting for you to review it.



I actually read most of this book while waiting at the dentist's office (I don't know why this bit of information stuck with me) and I found certain parts strangely funny.




It probably stuck with you because he keeps talking about toothache and how certain people can perversely enjoy it since their suffering can make others suffer as well. That seems, ahem, a memorable statement in the dentist's waiting room.

It pro..."
Haha, you're probably right, though I don't remember the toothache parts very clearly.

I try, I try ;)
Dostoyevsky is sure prone to portraying all kinds of petty, nasty, bilious characters. Maybe it's because his life was rather hard and as a result he lost his illusions about most of the humanity?

Throughout my long life I have been repeatedly defeated by Dostoyevsky, that is unable to go on and complete any book.
You have motivated me to attempt the master once again.
>:)


This novella was not an 'easy' read, but it was certainly worth it. I remember thinking that just about anyone would find parts of himself here (even if he would rather not), esp. the self that one struggled with in adolescence. (I gave it 4 stars too.)

This novella was n..."
Thanks, Teresa.
Dostoyevsky does tend to hold a mirror to us, and looking into it can be quite uncomfortable and disturbing.
Steve wrote: "This may be the best sleep-deprived review I've ever read. Insightful and personalized in a fun and appealing way."
Thanks, Steve. I tend to write quite a few sleep-deprived reviews; it seems that chronic sleep deprivation is slowly becoming my lifestyle...
Mosca wrote: "Thank you, Nataliya.
Throughout my long life I have been repeatedly defeated by Dostoyevsky, that is unable to go on and complete any book.
You have motivated me to attempt the master once again...."
Thanks, Mosca. I hope this will be *the* Dostoyevsky for you!

can i copy paste your review ?

try reading Notes from a Dead House, you'll see that he is actually the polar opposite of someone who only sees the bad in everyone. that's actually the wrongest statement about Dostoevsky I've ever heard.

try reading Notes from a Dead Hou..."
Actually, I've read quite a few books by Dostoevsky. And nowhere did I mention that he judges anyone in a bad way. I think he just had an uncanny way of seeing people how they are and not how they would prefer to be seen, and that's what makes us characterizations so apt. He sees it all - the good and the bad, and does not flatter. That's what I like about his writing.

I’m issuing you an admission pass to the coolest Russian literature imaginary party. Come join us - I’ll be hanging out with Chekhov somewhere.

After a drink or two we both may be able to very cautiously approach Fyodor Mikhailovich and very very carefully try to strike a conversation. Who knows, maybe we’ll be lucky and leave with our minds mostly intact.

Solid plan: you take his rear while I come up from the front?
But in total seriousness, thanks for this nice break away from my reread: impossible to do in anything fewer than 20 sittings, spaced days apart. If the mere mention of this narrator warrants a shower for you, being inside his head makes me want the same bath Chihiro gives the stink spirit in Spirited Away.

I’ll bring the canapés.

I had to read it in high school and loathed it. I reread it a few years later in college and had lukewarm feelings towards it. I’m curious to see your take on it.

see i read it the summer before the start of the 10th level. and i gobbled it up! we had a week on the seaside with parents and it was over in 4 days and oh tragedy i was without a book! 😆 this was the first Russian classic i had fun with! 🙂before i just hated tolstoy and goncharov and turgenev and bunin and other bearded men. this was the first time i was reading a classic and having fun! so now I'm a bit scared 😬


nah i only liked this one and anna karenina. and ak was not in curriculum but additional reading. god how i despised war and peace and oblomov back then. i only remember fondly mumu 😊


i can’t remember if we did 20th century. and to make 14 year olds read war and peace is a crime! gogol i remember having to recite from taras bulba. and ревизор was funny. but dead souls was a chore


everything is improved by witches. they are the main reason i liked конотопська вiдьма 😀 war and peace would’ve improved with one


yes!! bulgakov understood it 😂

Thanks, Mark! Dostoyevsky was good at that.

much like kafka, tone is so important with any takeaways. i always read kafka as being comedic, if dark, and the same goes for dostoyevksy. they both can, in a sense, be seen as literary extensions of gogol in how they trawl through the existential territory of hierarchies run amok, of stolid scriveners losing their decency thread by thread, of tears turned to manic laughter.
when all you have is fading away, all you can do is laugh.