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Orlando by Virginia Woolf
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My mom made me clean my room this weekend. No, not a teenage pain-in-the-ass cleaning of the room, this was THE cleaning of the room. As in, it was finally time to take apart the room I’d had in that house since we moved there somewhere around my thirteenth birthday.

Look you guys, I get it. I’m twenty-four. That’s another one of those Facts of Life that just happens to you, and most people would say I was far past time for this. And you know what? I was doing okay with it. It went slowly, but it wasn’t as bad as I had thought it would be- I went through old clothes, trophies from various sporting events (yeah, I spent sometime laughing about the fact that I used to do sports, too), old pictures of friends and even boyfriends, and the major breakdown I was waiting for happily stayed away. Yessir, I was a-okay.

Then I got to The Wall. It was the last thing to be done, and I just couldn’t bring myself to do more than look at it and then utterly lose my shit. Why that, when nothing else managed to get to me? Well, here’s why: I started building that wall when I was thirteen years old. It’s full of every person I was, thought I was, or hoped that I would become. It started on the back of the door which was plastered all over with quotes in ridiculous fonts from my favorite books (I can tell you the exactly the path I followed putting things up on that door by where the quotes are from) and three pages of plastered quotes describing my personality at sixteen that a friend gave me for Christmas. There’s the label from my junior year birthday present from my friends that says “The flamboyant actress� box of stuff,� which is right next to two posters of illustrated Shakespearean quotes I got in Stratford and over Glinda the Good Witch sitting on top of the lightswitch saying, “You’ve always had the power to go back to Kansas� (I didn’t put that there, and to this day I have no idea who did). This gives way to black and white posters showing scenes of Paris, cutouts from about a bazillion travel magazines, pictures I took in Ireland and England (including a prominently placed one on top of Glastonbury Tor), a speculative geneology chart out of the Arthurian legends, a painting by Magritte, a huge section of black and white glamour shots of old Hollywood stars (Grace Kelly, Elizabeth Taylor, Errol Flynn, a photo of Bogey looking down a totally unaware Marilyn Monroe’s dress, a drunk Orson Welles bombasting to Tony Curtis), my headshots and professional photos from the various productions I was in, cast photos, and a picture of the voice teacher who was my second mother for many years.

In other words, it’s the most fucking ridiculous part of the room! You’d think I’d be glad to get rid of the the embarrassing evidence of my bad taste, failed dreams, and terrible role models. And yet, that part was the only thing I gave a shit about. I really felt like crap about it, until I read Orlando and saw this:

“For she had a great variety of selves to call upon, far more than we have been able to find room for, since a biography is considered complete if it merely accounts for six or seven selves, whereas a person may have many thousand…and these selves of which we are built up, one on top of the other, as plates are piled on a waiter’s hand, have attachments elsewhere, sympathies, little constitutions and rights of their own� so that one will only come if it is raining, another in a room with green cutrains, another when Mrs. Jones is not there� and some are too wildly ridiculous to be mentioned in print at all.�

and this:

“nature…has further complicated her task and added to our confusion by providing a perfect rag-bag of odds and ends within us-a piece of a policeman’s trousers lying cheek by jowl with Queen Alexandra’s wedding veil�.Instead of being a single, downright, bluff piece of work of which no man need feel ashamed, our commonest deeds are set about with a fluttering and flickering of wings, a rising and falling of lights.�

I wrote in an earlier Vita review about my envy of coherence and life stories that make sense, and how frustrated I was that I couldn’t make my own follow a similar pattern. Woolf understands this frustration (“a single downright piece of work of which no man need feel ashamed�), and tells me why it isn’t ever going to happen- the thousands of selves, and Queen Alexandra’s wedding veil and the policeman’s trousers- what sort of goddess thinks of that?- and then, gift of all gifts, she seems both to understand it and even sympathize with it (in her way)! And this isn’t some poet off the street we’re talking about, this is Virginia Woolf! She’s okay with inconsistencies? Someone that smart is fascinated with absurdities, flights of fancy, illogical trains of thought, even slowness in someone that she loves this deeply? She’s willing to write 300 pages celebrating it, even?

Screw bodice rippers, that thought is the best porn that literary devising could give me. She gave me back Glinda and Bogey, and made me feel proud to take them. Orlando is many things, but it is above all a story that tries to make a dozen fantasies seem possible, or even the inevitable result of a life that is lived with all those thousand selves really getting in their say. While Woolf’s tone in this book is often light, mocking, wry, or even cutting, I don’t think that this detracted from the sublime quality of the story that she’s telling. If anything, her wry asides made the telling of Orlando that much more meaningful. By engaging with prosaic reality every so often- reminding us about the Nick Greenes of the world, the merchants, the couples walking two by Victorian two- she shows us why Orlando should be celebrated, if only for making it through the day, never mind the years on top of years, intact. There’s nobody like Virginia Woolf for getting the most out of the heroic efforts of every last moment, and just why it tortures us so much: “The present participle is the Devil,� she says here, and speaks lovingly of the past and future that shield us from the terrifying fact that we are here and now and we’re supposed to be someone doing something.

Time is the enabler of the novel, the vehicle through which all this exploration takes place, the administrative assistant that dispenses elfish magic when needed and sends out stern reminders of the rules when they are being ignored, but it’s one of Time’s children that’s both the demon and the anti-hero of the whole thing: Memory. Memory is the both the cocoon that protects Orlando from the ravages of ‘growing up� too much, and the beast that tries to tear her fragile defenses into shreds the second he isn’t looking (don’t get me for pronoun confusion, I know what I did there). It’s a dangerous drug to pull out regularly. Because no, actually, you can’t stop whenever you want to:

“� it has contrived that the whole assortment shall be stitched together by a single thread. Memory is the seamstress, and a capricious one at that. Memory runs her needle in and out, up and down, hither and thither. We know not what comes next, or what follows after. Thus the most ordinary movment in the world, such as sitting down at a table and pulling the inkstand towards one, may agitate a thousand odd, disconnected fragments, now bright, now dim, hanging and bobbing and dipping and flaunting, like the underlinen of a family of fourteen on a line in a gale of wind…�

And no, there’s no way of safely taking it, either:

“Every single thing, once he tried to dislodge it from its place in his mind, he found thus cumbered with other matter like the lump of glass which, after a year at the bottom of the sea, is grown about with bones and dragon-flies and coins and the tresses of drowned women.�

There was a period in my life after a particularly traumatic experience that I would stop in the street sometimes, muttering, “Shut up, shut up, shut up!� My terrible therapist called me “weird�, my mother decided I was talking to her, my friends made a nervous joke out of it. But Woolf understands the freakish intersection of memory and the present moment your body is in. It’s guerilla warfare out there- the even scarier modern kind where there are even less decent barriers as to when and where it is okay for the enemy to try and fuck you up. It’s not just running into an old friend, hearing a song with certain associations that’ll do it. And don’t think you can go searching the banks for something useful to you without paying compounded interest- there’s no such thing as a free lunch, especially not in the Memory banks. One memory is part of another memory, and unless you are far better at compartmentalizing than me, even reaching for a good memory is going to involve pushing through the muck to get to it.

It’s sad to think that Woolf probably understood this due to her own troubles with the state of her sanity. She uses words like “assault,� when talking about time, imagery of rushing waves when showing Orlando’s memories intruding upon her again and again- you don’t do that unless you know what the hell you’re talking about. I can see why she went on to write a book called The Waves right after this.

It’s actually a pretty funny book, though. I feel like I’m giving you the wrong idea of it. It’s lighthearted most of the time, there are excellent jokes in the style of Wodehouse in an archly amused tone that I just loved. It comments on gender, women in society, the industry of writing, writers themselves, historians, the Victorian age, Romantic sensibilities, and does it in a style that’s the most accessible I’ve ever seen her write. She openly invites you to be in on the joke and comment all you like as the Vanity Fair passes you by. I felt quite worldly observing things from her perch. It feels like her contribution to all the genres of literature that happened to be popular at the time- making use of all of them, getting trapped by the conventions of none. Parts of it just happened to give me some words I’ve been desperately searching for, so I did the fall on my knees and worship thing instead of attending the tea party afterwards. But don’t worry, she still found time to help Bertie Wooster out of his latest engagement.
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Virginia Woolf
“Memory is the seamstress, and a capricious one at that. Memory runs her needle in and out, up and down, hither and thither. We know not what comes next, or what follows after. Thus, the most ordinary movement in the world, such as sitting down at a table and pulling the inkstand towards one, may agitate a thousand odd, disconnected fragments, now bright, now dim, hanging and bobbing and dipping and flaunting, like the underlinen of a family of fourteen on a line in a gale of wind.”
Virginia Woolf, Orlando


Reading Progress

Started Reading
June 1, 2010 – Finished Reading
June 3, 2010 – Shelved
June 3, 2010 – Shelved as: 20th-century-early-to-mid
June 3, 2010 – Shelved as: examined-lives
June 3, 2010 – Shelved as: fiction
June 3, 2010 – Shelved as: identity-crisis
June 3, 2010 – Shelved as: vita-virginia-violet-and-kindred
June 3, 2010 –
page 30
8.93% "By far the most accessible Woolf I've read yet. If I'm reading sentences twice, it's because I want to very much. Then again, I sort of feel like I've cheated and know the secret code this time."
June 7, 2010 –
page 100
29.76% "Oh my god, that Memory passage. I'll move on when I can stop reading it over and over again. I may need to rip it out and tattoo it to my hand so I can reread whenever I want."
June 8, 2010 –
page 137
40.77% ""He stood upright in complete nakedness before us, and while the trumpets pealed Truth! Truth! Truth! we have no choice left but to confess-he was a woman.""
June 8, 2010 –
page 173
51.49% "The present participle is the Devil himself, she thought."
June 8, 2010 –
page 239
71.13% "Alll was dark; all was doubt; all was confusion. The Eighteenth century was over; the Nineteenth century had begun."
June 8, 2010 –
page 253
75.3% "For it has come about, by the wise economy of our nature, that our modern spirit can almost dispense with language; the commonest expressions do, since no expressions do; the most ordinary conversation is often the most poetic, and the msot poetic is precisely that which cannot be written down. For which reasons we leave a great blank here, which must be taken to indicate that the space is filled to repletion. <}!"
June 9, 2010 –
page 294
87.5% "Hail! natural desire! Hail! happiness! and pleasure of all sorts, flowers and wine, though one fades and the other intoxicates; and singing in a dark chapel hymns about death...anything, anything that interrupts and confounds the tapping of typewriters and filing of letters and forging of links and chains, binding the Empire together."
June 9, 2010 –
page 323
96.13% "Art and Religion are the reflections which we see in the dark hollow at the back of the head when the visible world is obscured for the time."
June 9, 2010 –
page 329
97.92% "Damnit damnit damnit, I don't want to turn the last page!"
April 15, 2011 – Shelved as: favorites
August 17, 2011 – Shelved as: grande-dames

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message 1: by Ben (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ben Yay! Mine's been ordered and is on the way. I'm going to finish The Idiot first, though. Can't wait to hear what you think.


message 2: by Kelly (last edited Jun 03, 2010 10:57AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kelly Well, the big brick of inadequacy and scary that's dropped on me starting the last two Woolf books hasn't dropped on my head with this book yet, so that's an improvement on the beginning! It's just gorgeous so far (though, granted, I'm not far in).

.... it will be ah, quite the transition from The Idiot. Maybe a good thing, though.


Moira This is really so fun. I want to see the review!


message 4: by Ben (last edited Jun 10, 2010 06:57AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ben I've already had fun looking through her status updates and her current "review" write-up; can't wait for the real one!


Kelly Well now I am nervous lest I disappoint you guys. :( I shall have to trust in the power of the chocolate donut to carry me through my doubts! Be back (hopefully) soon.


message 6: by Kelly (last edited Jun 10, 2010 01:27PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kelly Okay, it's done! If only because it got depressing deleting all those words so many times! :) Elizabeth, I hope you're able to get to Orlando soon- it's totally going on my Official Profile Favorite Books List, it was that good to me. Thanks again for recommending it!


message 7: by [deleted user] (new)

Okay, I kind of can't talk coherently about this review right now, but I'll be back. Just wow, Kelly.


message 8: by Manny (new)

Manny What a beautiful review, Kelly!


message 9: by Kelly (last edited Jun 10, 2010 02:13PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kelly Thank you to all of you! I'm relieved, since I was extremely nervous about the possible overshare in explaining myself. You guys are awesome. :) VW just gets to those kind of places, ya know?

And yes, please let's read The Waves? I would love that!


message 10: by Paul (new) - rated it 4 stars

Paul Bryant As above.


message 11: by Lori (new) - rated it 3 stars

Lori The Wall. I need a Wall. I'm yearning for The Wall. I'm gonna build one.


message 12: by Katie (new) - added it

Katie This is a great review. I was already excited to start reading the copy I bought (as soon as I return from Australia), but now I am even more excited.


message 13: by Kelly (last edited Jun 10, 2010 05:11PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kelly The Wall. I need a Wall. I'm yearning for The Wall. I'm gonna build one.

The medium does save one from becoming a scrapbooker, at least. :) If you do do it, step back and just look at it after a few years- it might surprise you what it shows. My Wall was an sort of an accident, so mine did anyway.

Thank you so much to all for the kind words! Kathleen, I hope you have as good an experience with this book as I did. I can at least promise you that you didn't waste your money, so there's that. :)


Emilie beautiful review, kelly. i particularly love "the freakish intersection of memory and the present moment your body is in" and the part where you talk about the nature of identity, the mulitiplicity of selves and how your experience with this book was in part a reclaiming of some of your selves. that's a powerful cool gift.

i've been wondering if part of the thing about seeking coherence in identity isn't giving up completely on coherence, but accepting a different idea of what a coherent identity means?


Kelly i've been wondering if part of the thing about seeking coherence in identity isn't giving up completely on coherence, but accepting a different idea of what a coherent identity means?

I could certainly see that. I think that for me, however, it means accepting that coherence may not be the right goal to strive for. I think I formed my idea of what a person should look like from lazy characterization in books- real people are far cooler than that.


Michael Wow, Kelly. I can see you've already heard this a bunch, but I'm going to say it, too: fucking amazing review. I envy you the experience you've clearly had with this book. I want to read it now. Should I start here, or do I need to warm up with another Woolf first?


message 17: by Kelly (last edited Jun 11, 2010 01:54PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kelly Thank you, Michael! That's very kind of you to say! :)

This is definitely my favorite Woolf (as you might have guessed), and also the most accessible of her fiction, so I think you could do worse than starting here! I don't think you need any prep work for this. However, I should warn you that Orlando isn't really the most representative piece of her work (this shows us Woolf giving a gift to the woman she loved- her writing is surreal and wonderful, but different). If you're looking for more of a real sense of what her deal is, I recommend starting with Mrs. Dalloway. Which, by the way, is absolutely amazing in its own right- just maybe not as easy to fall into as this one.


Michael I'll keep an eye out for both of those, and I'll go with the principle of chance I usually go with: whichever of the two I spot at a used book store first will get read first. Thanks for the recommendation!

I read To the Lighthouse several years ago and I didn't really get it, so I may need to re-read that one as well, eventually.


Kelly the odd tricks my memory would play on me. Very odd tricks, some of them.

If only you knew when it was coming, right? It's the ambush of it all that just messes me up, anyway. And thank you for the kind words.


message 20: by Anna (new) - rated it 5 stars

Anna What an excellent review! I was wondering if it was actually an English Lit. paper!


Kelly Thanks! But I don't think the language is be quiiiite academic enough for that, no. :)


message 22: by Szplug (last edited Jul 26, 2012 10:05PM) (new)

Szplug It might seem affected to you that I only ever pop into one of your comment threads to tell you how much I love the way you write, think, relate, and express yourself in your reviews, but I'm afraid to say that I'm doing it again here...


message 23: by Kelly (last edited Jul 28, 2012 02:15PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kelly Sorry I'm just seeing this, but how nice of you to say so, Chris! I saw you recently read Lighthouse and seemed like you had a good experience with that. Are you thinking of exploring more Woolf soon?


message 24: by Szplug (last edited Jul 31, 2012 09:34AM) (new)

Szplug No worries, Kelly—I'm hardly the most punctual of comment participators myself! [*Gee, that sounds a bit harsher than I had intended—in no way am I saying that you lack punctuality, Kelly, just so we are clear, but I'm always scattershot in getting back to people. I blame it on the GR notifications, which have always been whack for me].

I loved To the Lighthouse, although I actually read it several years ago. That review was an onanistic tribute long overdue—the review, that is, not the onanistic part :)

But, yes, I've been trying to hammer out a way of getting around to more of the classic novels I own, in lieu of forever temporizing and postponing them until some nebulous future date. Mrs. Dalloway and Orlando, together with Memoirs of Hadrian and The Tin Flute was one such female-authored chain I had envisioned. Of course, in such matters I can readily talk the talk—it's walking the walk that proves so difficult to do! Still, considering how much I've loved the Woolf I have read, especially To The Lighthouse, and combining that with the stunning reviews for Mrs. D by my GR friends that I've encountered herein, it is one title that I should definitely put near the top of the to-read list (though I know that you would likely push just as strongly for Yourcenar).


Kelly Annnd I fail again. Damnit, Life! Not sure if you're still about, but I wanted to respond back anyway. I definitely am not making a punctual case for myself, or a not-a-rude-person case for myself for that matter, but I hope that you'll forgive me for my scattershot replies as well.

I liked your review of Lighthouse, it made me laugh. Far too many people are far too reverential of Woolfian experiences that I think are funny, emotional and felt justrightthere. It made total sense to me! :) My last experience with Lighthouse wasn't so great because I was having a time of my life where I was very like Mrs. Ramsay. I really want to revisit it this winter if possible, though.

I would really recommend both Mrs. D and Yourcenar. Dalloway was my gateway Woolf drug, the one that convinced me that there was a secret worth finding. So I can't discourage that. The work she does on that tapestry is absolutely amazing. Yourcenar was a different experience, much quieter in its revelations for the most part, but no less fantastic. You seem to be reading some very complex novels, so I'm wondering what's keeping you from the classics? Is it just the Big Classic label or..? What's the hesitation?


message 26: by Szplug (last edited Aug 05, 2012 10:53AM) (new)

Szplug Whatever level of fail you may believe you have brought to this thread, Kelly, I'm always outdoing you! :)

You know, very briefly I contemplated writing up the Mrs. Dalloway review in exactly the same fashion, but opting for the closure of the left eye in lieu of the right. Might not have been so funny the second time around though...

In a way, MD has served as a gateway drug of sorts, since my previous Woolf reads�The Voyage Out, To The Lighthouse and Night and Day—were all undertaken quite some time ago. In particular, I think I will reread Lighthouse just to see how it compares to MD, since those two are generally held to be her apex work. Although your review for Orlando leaves me kind of desirous of that experience, too.

Yourcenar will be very soon. As for what keeps me from the classics, I am not sure. Basically, ever since my book accumulation began to acquire the components of an obsession, I have temporized and procrastinated and made excuses—a combination of not feeling the present moment is ripe for the correct time commitment and/or that I just want to get a little something different under my belt beforehand—for avoiding the generally highest-regarded literature from the past two centuries. In particular, the following:

In Search of Lost Time
Moby Dick
Ulysses
A Dance to the Music of Time
War and Peace
Parade's End
The Alexandria Quartet
Anna Karenina
Les Miserables

plus the various works of Virginia Woolf, the Brontës, Austen, Thackeray, Eliot, etc. etc. have just never made it into my hands. I'm trying to force myself to address this over the next year or so, because, really, what exactly am I waiting for?


message 27: by Kelly (last edited Aug 05, 2012 12:10PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kelly That's a pretty great list of books. I can definitely vouch for Austen, the Brontes, Thackeray and Orlando/Lighthouse being interesting reading experiences, even if they're not quite your cup of tea. Anna Karenina as well, obviously, and Ulysses. Not everyone is a fan of Joyce's experimentation, but you seem to read stuff all over the map so I think maybe it wouldn't bother you so much? Or maybe only parts of it would? Ulysses is a hard one to predict because the chapters are all so different. I'm planning to read War and Peace this fall and/or winter, so I'll let you know how that is if I do.

It makes sense to read whatever strikes your fancy at that moment, though. Reading isn't a job. :) I hope you get to one or two on that list, though! I don't think you'll regret it.


message 28: by Jen (new)

Jen Holmes nice review


Kelly Thanks!


Matthias Williamson Great review, made me want to read it all over again... starting today.


Kelly It's such a great book, isn't it? There's so many different avenues to explore.


Kristen Lovely review - typing on pad w one finger. Did you ever read "The Waves" my book group is just now working on Orlando. I think "The Waves" would be a good next book? Why don't you join us for this read? Your input would be valuable to our group.


Kelly I just read that with a group of my own, but thank you for the invite. I hope you enjoy your read!


message 34: by Tori (new) - added it

Tori I just caught the movie on TV and had never heard of it. It was...interesting but a little disjointed like there was more to it so I wondered if it was adapted from a book. I must read it now, in great part to your awesome review!


Kelly Thanks! Just so you know, though... The book's narrative flows amazingly well from my perspective, but not in a straightforward plot sense. Rather, the book focuses on the development of a character, and that works fantastically well and makes a lot of internal sense in its own way. But if you're looking for plot, this is not the book!


message 36: by Shiva (new) - added it

Shiva kumar wow kelly nice review ,are you a writer?


Kelly Ha, no, but thank you for the nice compliment!


message 38: by Shiva (new) - added it

Shiva kumar your welcome ! wanna see you as a writer


Kelly Well, maybe someday! It's a thought.


Taylor I think this is our next book club read. Rereading your review made me even more excited for it!


Kelly Aw thanks, it means a lot to me that you read this! It really is a great book! You might have a different experience with it than I did, since I read it at a very specific time, responding to the specific kind of identity crisis I was going through. You might respond more to the humor of it, of which there is a lot! It's so great. There is a lot here for bookish sorts and history lovers as well!

And I can tell you all about (more than you ever wanted to know, I'm sure!) about the woman that Woolf wrote this for if you're ever curious. She's fascinating and I love her!

I hope your book group loves this book like I do!


Rakhi Dalal Great review,Kelly!


Kelly Thanks! I really really do love this book. It's one of those I wish everyone read.

Or not really. But everyone who would appreciate it.


Taylor Kelly wrote: "And I can tell you all about (more than you ever wanted to know, I'm sure!) about the woman that Woolf wrote this for if you're ever curious. She's fascinating and I love her!"

Yes, I'd love to hear! You can tell me all about her this weekend :)


Kelly Oh my goodness, the list of things we have to talk about is piling up! I'll have to make an agenda or something. :)

Can't wait to see you!


Taylor Clearly a sign that this visit is long-overdue. Super excited!


Kelly !!!!!!!!!!! <- It is early, but this is the general idea my brain is trying to process right now. On my way to CT now!


Kelly Tay, I don't think you ever told me how this read was for you. How did it go? Did you guys ever read it?


message 49: by Joyce (new)

Joyce Thank you for your lovely review. I loved Orlando for the wry commentary on the writer's life, e.g., ". . . It must be remembered that when bright colours like blue and yellow mix themselves in our thoughts, some of it rubs off on our words." What a joy!


Maitreye Sometimes after I wrap up a book I want to continue being with the book. I look online for reviews, pieces discussing the book, the author, anything. Kelly your review of the book is just what I wanted to read after finishing Orlando. I didn't want to look for a good reads review as often I have been disheartened with what people say about books I loved, I don't know why this happens. I am so happy that your review didn't do that. Thanks for writing this.


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