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Emma
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“I may have lost my heart, but not my self-control.�
Personally, I may have lost my self-control, but not my heart.
A few years ago I read my first Jane Austen, which was Pride and Prejudice, and I really enjoyed it. I thought Emma couldn't be that bad, it's a very popular classic and its rating is good. To be honest, it's not bad, exactly, but the fact that it took me an entire month to get through it says a lot. I had lots and lots of problems with this novel.
1. Emma

Such a vain and arrogant main character. I mean, I know she is supposed to be an unlikeable character for literary reasons. But that doesn't make it any easier.
2. Miss Bates

Why bother wasting so much ink and paper on nonsense. Numerous pages of nonsense.
3. They way people are

Wait. Let me guess. That character is - wait for it - pleasant? The nicest person in the world? Of such sweet disposition? So generous, exceptional, kind, satisfactory and pleasant. Please save me.
4. The way people talk

Hours could go by and Emma and her father would talk about nothing but the pig they owned and had slaughtered, and what they'd make of it for dinner, and how nice it was that they gave some of it to the Bates, and if it was the right part of the pig they gave away, or if they should have given something else, but no it is all fine and pleasant, and that was very generous of them, and they will surely be very gracious, since they gave away such fine piece of pork, and won't dinner be nice and kick me on the shin pleasant.
5. The plot

Scratch 300 pages of nonsense and nervewracking pleasantness and this could have been a book I enjoyed.
Personally, I may have lost my self-control, but not my heart.
A few years ago I read my first Jane Austen, which was Pride and Prejudice, and I really enjoyed it. I thought Emma couldn't be that bad, it's a very popular classic and its rating is good. To be honest, it's not bad, exactly, but the fact that it took me an entire month to get through it says a lot. I had lots and lots of problems with this novel.
1. Emma

Such a vain and arrogant main character. I mean, I know she is supposed to be an unlikeable character for literary reasons. But that doesn't make it any easier.
2. Miss Bates

Why bother wasting so much ink and paper on nonsense. Numerous pages of nonsense.
3. They way people are

Wait. Let me guess. That character is - wait for it - pleasant? The nicest person in the world? Of such sweet disposition? So generous, exceptional, kind, satisfactory and pleasant. Please save me.
4. The way people talk

Hours could go by and Emma and her father would talk about nothing but the pig they owned and had slaughtered, and what they'd make of it for dinner, and how nice it was that they gave some of it to the Bates, and if it was the right part of the pig they gave away, or if they should have given something else, but no it is all fine and pleasant, and that was very generous of them, and they will surely be very gracious, since they gave away such fine piece of pork, and won't dinner be nice and kick me on the shin pleasant.
5. The plot

Scratch 300 pages of nonsense and nervewracking pleasantness and this could have been a book I enjoyed.
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May 21, 2015
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September 3, 2016
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October 4, 2016
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October 6, 2016
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"So thankful for Knightley, someone's got to put Emma in her place from time to time"
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October 6, 2016
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38.82%
"I wonder if people really were that shallow and boring in the 18&19hundreds"
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November 6, 2016
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I know it's too bad, I really wanted to like it but it just didn't work out
LOL love your gifs ! and the review . I remember that Emma was my fav of all of Austen's novels though ;P tastes are different and that good right ? :)

Ha thanks :D definitely. Different tastes make for variety


No never, but it's on my list :) I'm just about to watch the version with Gwyneth Paltrow
Kai wrote: "Kike wrote: "Have you ever seen the movie Clueless? It is an adaptation of Emma, with Vher being Emma and the father figure-love interest being her step-brother. Perhaps you will find the story mor..."
I'm curious if you like the movie let us know ;) It certainly won't make you like Emma more though ;) Gwyneth did a good job in portraying her. At least Mr. Knightley is cute ;P
I'm curious if you like the movie let us know ;) It certainly won't make you like Emma more though ;) Gwyneth did a good job in portraying her. At least Mr. Knightley is cute ;P

I liked the movie :) and Gwyneth was great as Emma. And Knightley isn't my type :D if Ewan McGregor had had a better haircut he would've been nice to look at though
Kai wrote: "Paul wrote: "Kai wrote: "Kike wrote: "Have you ever seen the movie Clueless? It is an adaptation of Emma, with Vher being Emma and the father figure-love interest being her step-brother. Perhaps yo..."
I'm glad you enjoyed it :) On to Clueless now ;P it's basically the 90s classic for everyone who had been a teenager like The Breakfast Club is for the 80s teenagers and Mean Girls for the 2000s ;)
I'm glad you enjoyed it :) On to Clueless now ;P it's basically the 90s classic for everyone who had been a teenager like The Breakfast Club is for the 80s teenagers and Mean Girls for the 2000s ;)

I started watching it right after Emma and it's hilarious :D I love it


I wanted to like it, I really did, but I just couldn't. Maybe in time, when I have forgotten what happens in the book, I will pick it up again and wonder why I ever disliked it the first place.


It sounds like a boring book. I was speed reading through that paragraph about pigs because it was so boring!



And I agree, Clueless was great 😄


I'm glad you liked it better than I did! And yes, Emma's attempts to help Harriet with Mr. Elton were entertaining but that was only at the beginning of the novel, so there wasn't much intriguing going on afterwards

I would watch the film 'Clueless' and then read this. I would have HATED this book had I not gotten an understanding of the plot and characters previously.

I suppose they're meant to be superflous in the same way that Emma is supposed to be disliked but still...it didn't make this book any better.

Makes sense ^^ I watched it afterwards though, and it was fun to see how they adapted this book.


Haha true :D

thanks for your helpful input, Danny. I needed that :)"
Yes, king! You destroyed him! XD


thanks for your helpful input, Danny. I needed that :)"
Yes, king! You destroyed him! XD"
I mean, reader reception is subjective. If I did not like or enjoy a book, it doesn't automatically mean that I did not "get it". And I don't need pseudo-intellectuals to tell me otherwise.

I totally get that. Personally I liked P&P, it was waaaay more fun than Emma.

I appreciated you taking a stand there. :D



Someone's "view" or "personal opinion" of a book is as authoritative as the evidence that can be summoned to support it. I know I'm being over-the-top-crazy, but if you want to know my real grudge: I think it's annoying that such an unfair review is voted to be the fifth one on Emma's goodread page. It's one of the first things people who are are wondering whether or not they should read the novel see when they look up the page, and it seems disrespectful to Austen (and just plain inaccurate)--the ramblings of someone who is more eager to give his opinion than to carefully think about what he's speaking). Sorry this is a sensitive subject for me. I'm a PhD student in literature, and Austen worked so hard to carefully craft this novel and did such a BRILLIANT job, but reviews like this (as is obvious from the comments) turn people off from the novel, and I find this really sad. I'm sorry for being so aggressive and grumpy. I just have such a soft spot for Austen and Emma in particular, which is one of the greatest and most ingenious 19th-century novels.
Let me just add--that if I could somehow have one hour with Jason (although that's impossible, lol), I'm sure I would be able to convince him that there are layers he hasn't picked up on. he speaks, in one of his comments, about "nothing much intriguing going on" after Volume one, when this couldn't be further from the case. Volume 2 is notoriously difficult and the one readers struggle with most because Austen forces us to sit with extreme uncertainty for hundreds of pages--but there are elaborate plots going on "behind the scenes" so that behind the curtain of each sentence, so to speak, SO MUCH IS GOING ON. It's crazy how much is going on. It's dizzying (way more than the Frank-Jane engagement). In volumes 2 and 3, she's teaching Emma and the reader something Emma didn't get the first time round(after the Harriet-Elton revelation); she's teaching them about the very limits and structure of human knowledge--that, as Cowper says, we create what we see. What's unfolding in volume 2 and 3 is a fiendishly difficult detective story that is riddle-like in its structure (recall the Harriet-Elton charade) and that lurks in the background. I don't have time to go on, but my dear friends, I encourage you to give this another shot. I should also mention that volume two is notorious for its difficulty (many people quit at this point); I agree that it produces a sensation that nothing is going on, but this is just an illusion which the detective-reader must unveil. And it's not just Emma who is implicated in blundering-- ALL of the characters misread one another, even Knightley, who is convinced that Emma loves Frank. Austen is trying to say something about our capacity to know each other based on empirical observation. She's offering a humbling vision of the world in which no one--not even Emma Woodhouse,, Queen Bee of Highburry--can control other characters' destinies or have god-like access to characters' thoughts. Something about the nature of love and courtship transcends human maneuvering.

Okay, I do get it now. That's much better than a "lol you didn't get it", because when someone comes at me like that I'm usually not very openminded to listen to them.
I'd feel the same way if someone wrote a review like this about a book that I not only love but believe it to be a masterpiece. Maybe I'll reread this one day, hopefully with more background information and then I might just be able to see the genius in it. But for now, I'm not in the mood to pick it up again anytime soon, since my experience with it was, well, not good and I struggled with every single line.


I definitely want to read more Austen books but I'm also not sure where to start. I don't want another disappointment like this one.

