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Prisoners of Geography by Tim  Marshall
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Once I read this true crime account of this serial killer and they didn’t find the bodies, I think they got him on dna, and so they ask him what did you do with the bodies. They were wondering what genius plan of disposal the guy had come up with to make ten corpses disappear without trace. And he says I cut em up and put them out with the trash. If I couldn’t get em in the bin I put em in black bags. They just took em away, every Thursday morning.

Well, you really shouldn’t laugh, but �

Once I saw this programme, I can’t remember what, it’s hard to keep track what with this and that and the other, but they were talking about earthquakes and they showed this huge plain somewhere, like Iran I think, and there was a little river in the middle, and so that was the only place there was a village, everywhere else on this plain was deserted. So when the earthquake hit, it crushed the village and killed everyone there. Because of course the river was the fault line. So the only place the people could live was on the fault line.

This is to show the complete fucked-up-ness of the human condition.

This book goes into some considerable detail about this fuckedupness. As for instance Africa. You hear a lot about the legacy of slavery and colonialism but hah, that ain’t it. It’s harbours and rivers is your problem. Africa has got a lot of famous long rivers but they don’t join up and so you can’t sail your goods down them because every 20 miles there’s a waterfall. Very pretty but it puts the kibosh on trade. Then below the Sahara you have the tsetse fly which bites any animal you might think of as a beast of burden, like donkeys or bullocks or zebras for all I know, so they go down and die and there’s your trade gone down with them. As for the coast, it’s smooth not jagged, and that’s really a bad thing because that means hardly any natural harbours, so that means no sea trade either.

This is solid stuff but not so solid when other countries are examined like Russia. Because then we are straying from geography and getting into the United States of Paranoia which is the real name of Russia, according to Tim Marshall. It’s mental geography he is now talking about. There is a North European Plain which has been the route from Europe into Russia since time began and the guy in the Kremlin is obsessed with not being invaded via this plain. And this explains the Russian buffer state thing, they have to have their buffer states or they get really frazzled. So - you're ahead of me - this in turn explains the current hoohah in Ukraine, and the previous switcheroo in Crimea. This latter has a warm water port and this may not mean much to you personally, but that’s because your ships aren’t frozen up in Murmansk for 8 months of the year. You can’t do nothing with cold water ports, you need a warm water one. All of the vastness of Russia and they don’t have a single one (ah geography), except now they do.

In Europe we had WW2 and the message Europeans took from that is that was the last one, no more European wars � which has almost but not quote been true for 75 years. The Russians see that as a blip. An uncharacteristic, suspicious blip.

This geography thing gets a bit repetitive � plains, mountains, rivers, plainsmountainsrivers, portsportsports, and when he gets to The Middle East (he asks the first 2 questions : Middle of what? East of what? to point out how ingrained is the eurocentricity of our western brains and maps) he is reduced to saying they all hate each other! You wouldn’t believe! which he has some strong data to back this up, like all of the current horror show from Morocco to Waziristan. But again, not really geography, this is psychohistory.

Leonard Cohen wrote a song about the entire and increasing fuckedupness of the world called "The Future" : Gimme back the Berlin wall, gimme Stalin and St Paul, I’ve seen the future, brother, it is murder. That is the theme song for this book, which is hard to rate because it allows for no chink of hope to get through. The message is : there will be more of the same, but it will be different enough for you not to get bored. So, for instance, beheading videos � you have to admit that was old (13th century) but new (on Twitter).

I must stop trying to understand the human race. It passeth all understanding.
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August 2, 2015 – Started Reading
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September 11, 2015 – Shelved as: politics
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message 1: by Mitchell (new)

Mitchell Sounds similar to one of the ultimate arguments of Guns, Germs & Steel, all that stuff about east-west continental axes and crop transfer.

Re: Crimea, surely Sochi and a few of the other cities around there are warmwater ports?


Paul Bryant not the way this book tells it... but I think I missed out the bit about access to the Black Sea and thus the Mediterranean... that looms quite large with the tsars


message 3: by Annie (new) - added it

Annie This was so informative and interesting, Paul. I was looking for such a book to read and this one sounds perfect. Thanks for sharing:)


Paul Bryant thanks! - I hope it doesn't depress you too much!


message 5: by Annie (new) - added it

Annie Paul wrote: "thanks! - I hope it doesn't depress you too much!"

Necessary pains! A book about the condition of the world wouldn't be any good otherwise. But I shall rally. ;)


message 6: by Cecily (new)

Cecily A fascinating review, Paul.

If you want less repetitive geography, keep an eye on the Strange Maps blog:

The most recent one (currently) is literary.


Paul Bryant they look brilliant - bookmarked! - thanks Cecily....


Martyn I loved this book.

Tim Marshall gives a succinct, but good explanation as to how the Geography of a nation or continent shapes its fortunes and why natural borders delineate the them. Although the book is quite short it explains a good deal of why the World is as it is today and where we may heading in the future?

I would imagine that anyone with an interest in history of politics would enjoy this.

Great read.


message 9: by MomToKippy (new) - added it

MomToKippy This is so good.


message 10: by Ivor (new)

Ivor If all book reviews were as good as yours, I wouldn't bother reading any more books. Thank you so much.


message 11: by Paul (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant thanks Ivor! but, er, no, carry on reading!


message 12: by Alex (new) - rated it 4 stars

Alex Renwick Not the book I read!


message 13: by Paul (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant Hi Alex - I see you did not review this one but you rated it 4 stars - well, what's one star here or there. I thought it was pretty good but got a little bit tedious eventually.


TheGirlWhoReads I have just begun the book, finished Russia and came across your review and it made me laugh! This is as honest as it can get! I'm tempted to read your reviews of other books


message 15: by Paul (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant that's one temptation you shouldn't resist...


message 16: by Vheissu (last edited Feb 03, 2017 09:51AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Vheissu Nice essay, Paul, and a great example of sublime English humor.

Because I teach International Relations, political geography is one of my interests. My students are particularly ignorant of two things: diplomatic history and world geography. So, I have to spend a lot of time on those two things before we can get down to IR theory and foreign policy.

There seems to me to be a great divide in political geography today: the traditionalists (geography is destiny) and the post-modernists (geography isn't destiny). I think the classic example of the first is:

America's Strategy in World Politics The United States and the Balance of Power by Nicholas Spykman America's Strategy in World Politics: The United States and the Balance of Power by Nicholas Spykman

and a good example of the latter is

Critical Geopolitics The Politics of Writing Global Space by Gearoid O Tuathail Critical Geopolitics: The Politics of Writing Global Space by Gearoid O Tuathail Gearoid O Tuathail

Personally, I'm not totally convinced by either point of view; each has a lot of explanatory value depending upon what it is that you want to explain.

A recent example of a book that delves deeply into the geography of its subject, and one that you have probably already read and one that I can recommend, is

The English and their History by Robert Tombs The English and their History by Robert Tombs.

One of the best books I've read so far this year.


message 17: by Paul (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant thanks again, as ever - I have the huge Robert Tombs book right here on my real world shelf but I ain't got round to it yet.


message 18: by Jessica (new) - added it

Jessica Opalinski I'm confused, it sounds like you're criticizing a book that literally has the phrase "political geography" in the title for focusing on politics instead of solely geography?


message 19: by Paul (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant no, I'm not criticising this book for that reason. It was in honesty rather dull and repetitive and furthermore acutely depressing, so although it raised a lot of very interesting questions about the parameters of human possibility they are raised only to show how crippled we all are, geopolitically that is. Hence only 3 stars.


Vheissu While Sevastopol is a warm water port, it is also bottled up in the Black Sea. In order to break out into blue waters, the Russians have to navigate at least two straits, both of which are controlled by NATO allies (Bulgaria and Turkey control the Dardanelles, and Spain and Britain control Gibraltar). Russia has a blue water port in Vladivostok, but it is so remote as to be worthless and Russian ships still have to pass through the Sea of Japan (another U.S. ally). There's also Kaliningrad, bottled up in the Baltic Sea and squeezed between another couple of NATO allies, Poland and Lithuania. That leaves them with Tartus, in Syria, their only naval base in the Mediterranean and prime reason for Russia's support for Assad.


message 21: by Paul (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant agreed, so following the logic, the Russian support for Assad has kept him in power and thus prolonged the civil war, causing who knows how many deaths and injuries; and this is all because of the lack of a warm water port.


Vheissu Paul wrote: "agreed, so following the logic, the Russian support for Assad has kept him in power and thus prolonged the civil war, causing who knows how many deaths and injuries; and this is all because of the ..."

That's how I see it.


message 23: by Alex (new) - rated it 5 stars

Alex It was a good book. Going past my narcisistic well being that I am finally not an ignorant anymore, it is indeed a sad book, which leaves no place for hope in a better world. but i dont think that Marshall had such intentions in the first place. i think he wanted to present the facts so far.


message 24: by Paul (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant agreed


message 25: by Greg (new) - rated it 3 stars

Greg Paul, oddly, I often had the same reaction as you, I found myself laughing. Like when the author points out that Russia has 8 ice-breaker ships but the U.S has only one. Psychohistory.....yep, pretty much. Loved it when he says a certain area was split into two countries by NATO in the late 1940s but doesn't name the countries, and that's the issue I'm most confused about.


message 26: by Paul (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant I think they were told not to tell anyone which two countries they were.


message 27: by [deleted user] (new)

One relatively unimportant fuckedupedness I always noted in the US was that trailers are the structures most susceptible to severe damage from tornados; so of course the majority of them are in the section sometimes called Tornado Alley.

Oh, and thanks for that idea about the garbage.


message 28: by Paul (last edited Oct 07, 2017 11:21PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant you might want to test the garbage idea with a dog first before progressing. Just a thought.


message 29: by [deleted user] (new)

Thanks, Paul. Good, good idea.


Matthew Grenier Mitchell wrote: "Sounds similar to one of the ultimate arguments of Guns, Germs & Steel, all that stuff about east-west continental axes and crop transfer.

Re: Crimea, surely Sochi and a few of the other cities ar..."


while there was a slight bit of overlap (Guns, Germs and Steel is actually a book he quotes) there was not much of the east-west vs north-south stuff and little about early abilities to grow crops and domesticate animals. This was more about terrain and how that affect trade and war. It doesn't start at the beginning of humans like Diamond's book does, it discusses why current borders are where they are, why present day countries thrive or do not, and how terrain like navigable rivers, mountain ranges, access to seas/oceans, etc affect the ability to succeed. It really enjoyed and highly recommend it. It's also much shorter than Guns, Germs and Steel lol.


message 31: by Paul (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant shorter, punchier and finishable! I tried GGS and it defeated me, I'm a lightweight, I know.


Matthew Grenier Paul wrote: "shorter, punchier and finishable! I tried GGS and it defeated me, I'm a lightweight, I know."

It was at times painful and dry but I did like GGS. I totally understand why someone wouldn't get through it though. It was more like reading a text book on an interesting subject than a book. I didn't really like Diamond's style but I did enjoy the topic.


message 33: by Bouchra (new)

Bouchra Dude, are you sure you got the title right? Cause this certainly does not sound like the book I read.


message 34: by Paul (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant I'm going to say.... yes, I did.


message 35: by Feed Mechian (new) - added it

Feed Mechian The new version and it oh well


message 36: by Boni (new) - rated it 4 stars

Boni Aditya Well does the book not talk about the one thing that beat the limitations of geography? Technology, Humans fought nature with tech! planes! rockets, atom bombs, canals, dams, cars, automobiles. If there is one thing the book talks about consistently it is the power of technology, mobile phones, ice breakers to overcome the limitations set by geography. Not sure how you missed that?


Averill Great review! Also your later observation on why Russia supported Assad for so long


message 38: by Paul (last edited Jan 28, 2021 07:22AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant Hi Boni - well the title of this book kind of lays out where the author is coming from - prisoners - meaning that geography puts you in a prison to the extent that it hampers the development of the economic basis for the creation of any technology that might defeat your geography. People have written books looking at the whole thing the other way round, asking why "the west" was so good at developing technology, and this is a useful companion to Marshall's book - here's an example -

/review/show...


message 39: by [deleted user] (new)

I think you missed the part in the chapter on Africa where Marshall explains how the imperialists left a totally screwed up set of artificial boundaries as a parting gift. The same can be said of the Middle East and South Asia.


message 40: by Emma (new) - rated it 4 stars

Emma Lewis The author did not say that geography hampers technology. You seem to have missed the part (in the introduction) where he states “any sensible person can see that modern technology is now bending the iron rules of geography. It has found ways over, under, or through some of the barriers�


message 41: by Paul (new) - rated it 3 stars

Paul Bryant I'm not sure my review says that he says that geography hampers technology. But it sure hampered economic development. If Tim Marshall didn't think that he wouldn't have called his book Prisoners of Geography.


message 42: by Beth (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth I always learn a great deal from reading the reviews. I picked up this book at the airport and I'm reading the chapters out of order. USA first, which is where I'm from. Europe, next which is what I'm drawn to. Middle East third because it's dragging the world behind it. I really should be reading Russia but I will never get the bad taste out of my mouth, and I will never understand how our fucking country has turned towards them. Shameful.


message 43: by Beth (new) - rated it 4 stars

Beth YOUR REVIEWS^* stupid dictation


message 44: by Dania (new) - added it

Dania You should write a book. :)


message 45: by Jean-Francois (new)

Jean-Francois PIROT That's the best book critic I've ever read. Can't stop laughing. Well done (and of course, you can still get the message after the good laugh)


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