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Socialism: Utopian and Scientific
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Sep 15, 2017
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Most accessible of the original Marxist works?
The Good:
--I read this early on, prior to reading Marx's monumental Capital: A Critique of Political Economy, Volume 1. Engels did his job to prepare the reader.
--“Marxism� just points to “go read Marx�; “scientific socialism� is more descriptive, but also potentially dogmatic as a label. “Historical materialism�, framed as an analytical tool/lens, seems most useful for today...
1) What drives history/social change?:
a) Production (of our daily material needs, along with distribution/reproduction, studied in political economy). This consists of the interactions between the material conditions (which can be scrutinized by natural sciences) and the corresponding social relations (class struggle/political bargaining powers). Thus, the "historical materialism" of "Scientific Socialism".
b) ...as opposed to culture/ideology/philosophy ("idealism", where the focus is on ideas driving social change; this is "Utopian Socialism" with its wide variety of creative yet sometimes fanciful ideas. Engels considers Saint Simon, Charles Fourier, and Robert Owen).
--Thus, historical materialism: knowing by our being, instead of being by our knowing.
--Of course, there are constant interactions between material conditions and ideas, thus "dialectical materialism". But materialism provides a foundational base to start our investigation, whereas starting with idealism can leave us untethered to reality:
-ex. Graeber/Wengrow's The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity
-ex. Foucault's Discipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison
--For a spectacular modern introduction, see the . The entire series is foundational so watch from the start, but on this particular topic see episodes:
"7. The Origins of Male Dominance and Hierarchy; what David Graeber and Jordan Peterson get wrong"
"7.1 Material Conditions: Why You Can't Eliminate Sexism or Patriarchy by Changing Culture"
"8. Materialism vs. Idealism: How Social Change Happens"
2) The contradiction between:
a) increasing socialization of production (a growing working class to work together to sell to the general market i.e. for society, rather than local production for local consumption), vs.
b) continued (even decreasing in ratio, given global inequality) individual ownership of the "means of production" (machinery/technology/land etc. needed to produce our material needs).
3) The above sets up the class struggle between capitalists (owners of the "means of production") and wage labour (lacking the "means of production", thus dependent on selling our labour), where machinery/technology are the capitalists� key weapon to replace human labour, creating the “industrial reserve army� ("structural unemployment") to enforce work discipline/prevent alternatives.
...To unpack Marx's political economy (capitalism's value system, commodity fetishism, circuit of commodity production (M-C-M'), surplus value from exploitation of wage labour, etc.), see Capital: A Critique of Political Economy, Volume 1.
4) The further contradiction:
a) socialized production within firms (i.e. the work actually getting done is most effectively done by cooperation, i.e. "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need", despite the dictatorship of capitalist management/ownership)
b) while outside the firm is the "anarchy of the market" (ruthless competition, lack of planning/coordination/cooperation for social needs, where volatility/crises are a feature not a bug).
...If we extend this globally, we get the "kicking away the ladder" double standard, where:
a) Rich capitalist countries have large "States" to buffer the effects of the anarchy of the market, to build the required public infrastructure (physical and social such as R&D, higher education, etc.)
b) while rich capitalist countries force poor countries to remove their own State protection in the name of "free trade"/"free market"/"Structural Adjustment"/"economic development", a continuation of colonial pillaging:
-The Divide: A Brief Guide to Global Inequality and its Solutions
-Bad Samaritans: The Myth of Free Trade and the Secret History of Capitalism
--On "the market", we should also consider Polanyi's The Great Transformation: The Political and Economic Origins of Our Time (see the intro in Talking to My Daughter About the Economy: or, How Capitalism Works—and How It Fails): capitalism is not just the market for real commodities which long pre-dates capitalism. Capitalism features 3 peculiar markets (labour/land/money) with "fictitious commodities", i.e. humans/nature/purchasing power are not "produced" just to buy/sell in markets.
...Indeed, setting up and perpetuating such peculiar markets requires:
i) significant violence, thus the foundational role of "the State" for capitalism.
ii) constant social dislocation from volatility/crises; finance capital can not traverse the global in nanoseconds, whereas human labour struggle to keep up. So much of our social life (neighborhood, workplace) becomes more transitory, where communities become strangers ("social dislocation").
5) The rising obsolescence of capitalists, who resort more and more to:
i) dividends (passive income from ownership of shares; "passive" in the sense of no work... remember, passive income from ownership is separate from the work of management, which is paid via wage income).
ii) gambling on the stock market (short-term speculation rather than long-term investments); after all, if the game is to maximize profits, why waste all the time/risk on long-term investments when you can pillage now and use your growing wealth to bribe ("lobby") for bailouts when the crisis erupts?
6) As mentioned above regarding the violence needed by capitalism: the role of the State under capitalism in handling the anarchy of the market. Thus, once the capitalist contradictions above are resolved via socialism (resolving the class struggle and planning for social needs), the State does not need to be abolished; it will wither away.
...Of course this is a massive topic; Lenin only scratches the surface in The State and Revolution.
The Missing:
1) More practice with synthesis/"dialectics":
--To avoid dogma and excessive sectarian debates, we should see Engels and Marx as human beings of their context testing out powerful tools/lenses of social analysis, which involves making mistakes and learning from them.
...Thus, "Scientific Socialism" sounds rather dogmatic; it's convenient to forget that proper science requires publishing all your negative results, especially in "narcissism of small difference" debates between and even within the plethora of Leftist labels. The narcissism tendency is understandable given the Left's role of deconstructive critiques (opening Pandora's box), but at some point we have to be constructive which requires synthesis and diplomacy.
--So, for my part, I still find time to dive into idealism for their creativity/social imagination; one of my early influences is anarchist/anthropologist David Graeber. These days, I start with a historical materialist foundation and then let idealists like Graeber flip everything upside down to see what emerges.
...And of course materialism can be done in too rigid a manner; ex. the application of natural science to parts of economics requires careful unpacking, as the pro-capitalist market fundamentalists have demonstrated with their (mal)practice...
2) Critiquing Orthodox Marxism:
--Perhaps most importantly, we should recognize that Marxists (which itself is a massive label with numerous internal debates) do not have a monopoly on historical materialism/materialist socialism; I refer back to the materialist anarchism (which indeed is very influenced by Marx/Engels) in "What is Politics?", in particular these episodes critiquing Marxist-Leninism:
-
-
--Every time I read Marx/Engels/orthodox Marxists, I cannot help thinking (with the ungodly power of hindsight) about their optimism towards "developed" capitalists nations (Britain/Germany... later US), and how capitalists responded with:
i) Inebriating developed nations with social democracy, i.e. capitalist reformism (fueled by imperialism), where Lenin's Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism only scratches the surface.
ii) For any socialism that slips through the cracks, smashing them with perpetual war. While resisting such aggressive violence, how much creation of violent hierarchies can socialists tolerate? If we bring in morality, the cycle of violence is the greatest evil perpetrated by capitalist imperialism:
-see "siege socialism" in Blackshirts and Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism
-Washington Bullets: A History of the CIA, Coups, and Assassinations
-The Jakarta Method: Washington's Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program that Shaped Our World
-The Management of Savagery: How America's National Security State Fueled the Rise of Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Donald Trump
The Good:
--I read this early on, prior to reading Marx's monumental Capital: A Critique of Political Economy, Volume 1. Engels did his job to prepare the reader.
--“Marxism� just points to “go read Marx�; “scientific socialism� is more descriptive, but also potentially dogmatic as a label. “Historical materialism�, framed as an analytical tool/lens, seems most useful for today...
1) What drives history/social change?:
a) Production (of our daily material needs, along with distribution/reproduction, studied in political economy). This consists of the interactions between the material conditions (which can be scrutinized by natural sciences) and the corresponding social relations (class struggle/political bargaining powers). Thus, the "historical materialism" of "Scientific Socialism".
b) ...as opposed to culture/ideology/philosophy ("idealism", where the focus is on ideas driving social change; this is "Utopian Socialism" with its wide variety of creative yet sometimes fanciful ideas. Engels considers Saint Simon, Charles Fourier, and Robert Owen).
--Thus, historical materialism: knowing by our being, instead of being by our knowing.
--Of course, there are constant interactions between material conditions and ideas, thus "dialectical materialism". But materialism provides a foundational base to start our investigation, whereas starting with idealism can leave us untethered to reality:
-ex. Graeber/Wengrow's The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity
-ex. Foucault's Discipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison
--For a spectacular modern introduction, see the . The entire series is foundational so watch from the start, but on this particular topic see episodes:
"7. The Origins of Male Dominance and Hierarchy; what David Graeber and Jordan Peterson get wrong"
"7.1 Material Conditions: Why You Can't Eliminate Sexism or Patriarchy by Changing Culture"
"8. Materialism vs. Idealism: How Social Change Happens"
2) The contradiction between:
a) increasing socialization of production (a growing working class to work together to sell to the general market i.e. for society, rather than local production for local consumption), vs.
b) continued (even decreasing in ratio, given global inequality) individual ownership of the "means of production" (machinery/technology/land etc. needed to produce our material needs).
3) The above sets up the class struggle between capitalists (owners of the "means of production") and wage labour (lacking the "means of production", thus dependent on selling our labour), where machinery/technology are the capitalists� key weapon to replace human labour, creating the “industrial reserve army� ("structural unemployment") to enforce work discipline/prevent alternatives.
...To unpack Marx's political economy (capitalism's value system, commodity fetishism, circuit of commodity production (M-C-M'), surplus value from exploitation of wage labour, etc.), see Capital: A Critique of Political Economy, Volume 1.
4) The further contradiction:
a) socialized production within firms (i.e. the work actually getting done is most effectively done by cooperation, i.e. "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need", despite the dictatorship of capitalist management/ownership)
b) while outside the firm is the "anarchy of the market" (ruthless competition, lack of planning/coordination/cooperation for social needs, where volatility/crises are a feature not a bug).
...If we extend this globally, we get the "kicking away the ladder" double standard, where:
a) Rich capitalist countries have large "States" to buffer the effects of the anarchy of the market, to build the required public infrastructure (physical and social such as R&D, higher education, etc.)
b) while rich capitalist countries force poor countries to remove their own State protection in the name of "free trade"/"free market"/"Structural Adjustment"/"economic development", a continuation of colonial pillaging:
-The Divide: A Brief Guide to Global Inequality and its Solutions
-Bad Samaritans: The Myth of Free Trade and the Secret History of Capitalism
--On "the market", we should also consider Polanyi's The Great Transformation: The Political and Economic Origins of Our Time (see the intro in Talking to My Daughter About the Economy: or, How Capitalism Works—and How It Fails): capitalism is not just the market for real commodities which long pre-dates capitalism. Capitalism features 3 peculiar markets (labour/land/money) with "fictitious commodities", i.e. humans/nature/purchasing power are not "produced" just to buy/sell in markets.
...Indeed, setting up and perpetuating such peculiar markets requires:
i) significant violence, thus the foundational role of "the State" for capitalism.
ii) constant social dislocation from volatility/crises; finance capital can not traverse the global in nanoseconds, whereas human labour struggle to keep up. So much of our social life (neighborhood, workplace) becomes more transitory, where communities become strangers ("social dislocation").
5) The rising obsolescence of capitalists, who resort more and more to:
i) dividends (passive income from ownership of shares; "passive" in the sense of no work... remember, passive income from ownership is separate from the work of management, which is paid via wage income).
ii) gambling on the stock market (short-term speculation rather than long-term investments); after all, if the game is to maximize profits, why waste all the time/risk on long-term investments when you can pillage now and use your growing wealth to bribe ("lobby") for bailouts when the crisis erupts?
6) As mentioned above regarding the violence needed by capitalism: the role of the State under capitalism in handling the anarchy of the market. Thus, once the capitalist contradictions above are resolved via socialism (resolving the class struggle and planning for social needs), the State does not need to be abolished; it will wither away.
...Of course this is a massive topic; Lenin only scratches the surface in The State and Revolution.
The Missing:
1) More practice with synthesis/"dialectics":
--To avoid dogma and excessive sectarian debates, we should see Engels and Marx as human beings of their context testing out powerful tools/lenses of social analysis, which involves making mistakes and learning from them.
...Thus, "Scientific Socialism" sounds rather dogmatic; it's convenient to forget that proper science requires publishing all your negative results, especially in "narcissism of small difference" debates between and even within the plethora of Leftist labels. The narcissism tendency is understandable given the Left's role of deconstructive critiques (opening Pandora's box), but at some point we have to be constructive which requires synthesis and diplomacy.
--So, for my part, I still find time to dive into idealism for their creativity/social imagination; one of my early influences is anarchist/anthropologist David Graeber. These days, I start with a historical materialist foundation and then let idealists like Graeber flip everything upside down to see what emerges.
...And of course materialism can be done in too rigid a manner; ex. the application of natural science to parts of economics requires careful unpacking, as the pro-capitalist market fundamentalists have demonstrated with their (mal)practice...
2) Critiquing Orthodox Marxism:
--Perhaps most importantly, we should recognize that Marxists (which itself is a massive label with numerous internal debates) do not have a monopoly on historical materialism/materialist socialism; I refer back to the materialist anarchism (which indeed is very influenced by Marx/Engels) in "What is Politics?", in particular these episodes critiquing Marxist-Leninism:
-
-
--Every time I read Marx/Engels/orthodox Marxists, I cannot help thinking (with the ungodly power of hindsight) about their optimism towards "developed" capitalists nations (Britain/Germany... later US), and how capitalists responded with:
i) Inebriating developed nations with social democracy, i.e. capitalist reformism (fueled by imperialism), where Lenin's Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism only scratches the surface.
ii) For any socialism that slips through the cracks, smashing them with perpetual war. While resisting such aggressive violence, how much creation of violent hierarchies can socialists tolerate? If we bring in morality, the cycle of violence is the greatest evil perpetrated by capitalist imperialism:
-see "siege socialism" in Blackshirts and Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism
-Washington Bullets: A History of the CIA, Coups, and Assassinations
-The Jakarta Method: Washington's Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program that Shaped Our World
-The Management of Savagery: How America's National Security State Fueled the Rise of Al Qaeda, ISIS, and Donald Trump
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Ah, this is a particularly intriguing insight.
Yes, I can reject the simplistic "Marx's main prediction didn't happen, therefore Marxism is wrong", especially when it is pushed by cringe-worthy Liberal End-of-History types.
As for the use of "scientific", I'm tentative here because I know enough to know that I don't know enough about the philosophy of science. I can appreciate the conventional, narrow "scientific method" applied to very specific questions in the natural world, but how much this applies to complex social questions I have yet to fully unpack. However, I can appreciate arguments based on observations and logic, and from this I appreciate Engel's analysis and critique of utopic socialism.
I'll definitely read the Losurdo essay soon, thanks as always for your suggestions, I've had his other works on my radar as well so I'm eager to get started there :)


I'll need to play around with historical materialism some more.
One perspective I've heard attributed to Marx/Marxism that I finally saw written by a Marxist (in this book) was the idea that socialism/communism provides the animal needs of humanity, where upon the human needs can then be fully pursued. I find this an interesting perspective, as it highlights historical materialism's focus on the economic conditions. I also find this sets a clearer scope, it makes for practical priorities, and I rather see this as a strength of modernism (not above critique, but often useful).


David, remember how after writing the Communist Manifesto in the wake of revolutions and then the revolutions dying down, Marx and Engels (from what I recall mentioned in some later preface) decided not to alter the Manifesto and keep it as a historical document? Reading an old review reminds me of that in miniature haha



For sure! Sadly capitalist/imperialist propaganda ("public relations", Red Scare, Hollywood, Western exceptionalism, etc.) is so deep that I still think there's a significant barrier for many to even consider reading anything by Marx/Engels. So it's mostly for those who are already openly committed to learning more about "leftism" (I see you tagged "hakim", case and point).
So I definitely leave a lot of room for diverse presentations that can accessibly engage a wider audience, like:
-Varoufakis' "Talking to My Daughter About the Economy: or, How Capitalism Works—and How It Fails"
-Hickel's "Less is More: How Degrowth Will Save the World"
-Raworth's "Doughnut Economics: Seven Ways to Think Like a 21st-Century Economist"
...these are the type of books that a casual person would be willing to pick up, and still learn a lot of critical political economy (including Marx's frameworks, minus some jargon). And all three are accessible public speakers who start with some everyday capitalist contradiction that casual people can observe (high housing prices/rent/foreclosures, precarious underemployment, medical debt, ecological disasters, financial crises, etc.) and then tie this to a critical framework, while easing off the "dialectical materialism", "TRPF", etc. We need a diverse toolkit...



Alas, so far behind, but building a game plan:
--Բ� The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State was apparently inspired by Marx’s analysis of US anthropologist Lewis Henry Morgan’s Ancient Society Or, Researches In The Lines Of Human Progress From Savagery, Through Barbarism To Civilization:
1) Morgan seems to focus on matrilocal residence (i.e. married couple reside with the wife’s parents) from ethnography of the Iroquois, leading to the theory that humans started with matrilineal clans and “primitive communism� (where cooperative women countered uncooperative alpha males/assholes).
--I’m not sure the contours of how the debates on this has unfolded in academia and popular culture, esp.:
i) 1920s-30s Boas/Mead/Benedict/Deloria/Hurston, portrayed in Gods of the Upper Air: How a Circle of Renegade Anthropologists Reinvented Race, Sex, and Gender in the Twentieth Century
ii) 1966 “Man the Hunter� symposium on hunter-gatherers in the context of “primitive communism� (Man the Hunter: The First Intensive Survey of a Single, Crucial Stage of Human Development� Man’s Once Universal Hunting Way of Life), which “What is Politics?� emphasizes in critiquing Graeber/Wengrow’s The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity.
iii) 1970s-80s feminist/Marxist anthropology, ex. Eleanor Leacock’s 1981 Myths of Male Dominance
iv) Recent feminist/Marxist anthropology:
-ex. Chris Knight’s 1991 Blood Relations: Menstruation and the Origins of Culture and 2012 “Engels was Right: Early Human Kinship was Matrilineal�
-ex. Sarah Blaffer Hrdy’s 1999 Mother Nature: Maternal Instincts and How They Shape the Human Species and 2009 Mothers and Others: The Evolutionary Origins of Mutual Understanding
2) Rise of private property led to a switch to patrilocal residence (thus, patriarchy). Engels seems to attribute this rise to farming/pastoralism as well as the family of husband/wife pairs (more restrictive, thus property enters). This becomes more restrictive with monogamy/marriage laws driven by property considerations (inheritance, etc.).
--as with the above, I’m not sure how to piece together the big picture on debates in academia/popular culture.
-ex. Gerda Lerner’s 1986 The Creation of Patriarchy and 1993 The Creation of Feminist Consciousness: From the Middle Ages to Eighteen-seventy
…and of course the frameworks that really integrate political economy:
-ex. Silvia Federici’s 2004 Caliban and the Witch: Women, the Body and Primitive Accumulation
-ex. Nancy Folbre’s 2020 The Rise and Decline of Patriarchal Systems: An Intersectional Political Economy and 2009 Greed, Lust and Gender: A History of Economic Ideas
-ex. Maria Mies 1986 Patriarchy and Accumulation on a World Scale: Women in the International Division of Labour
As you bring up yourself, dialectics is a fuzzy concept, and the post-capitalist future that Marx & Engels sketch out between the lines has been let down by reality. In a way, the stage of 'dialectical understanding' they were operating on when they developed their theories, constricted by their historical context, rendered them blind to its own limitations and inconsistencies. Though not as egregiously as their non-marxist detractors make it out to be, Marx' view of revolution was quite linear: the tension between social production & exploitation and private appropriation would increase until society burst open into its new form. However, one of the key insights of dialectics (which, in a nutshell, means relating the concrete to the abstract, the part to the whole, history and understanding in dynamic equilibrium) is that quantitative changes can overnight turn into qualitative ones; ie, before the class struggle in your society has reached 100% intensity, neatly fulfilling a linear prophecy, partial developments along this path can suddenly 'break' the line, shuffling around the points of fracture, sealing some, opening others. The development of monopolies and cartels, for one, 'deforms' certain tendencies of Capital: the competition for the lowest production costs and the market pressures that quickly lower commodity prizes makes way for imperialist war and the redrawing of the globe; as you say, social democracy extinguishes the most urgent social fires. The bolshevik revolution broke another expectation, as did China's, where no proletariat to speak of had even developed yet.
That marxism gets caught off-guard by reality is not due to the fact that it is fundamentally wrong (it is 'scientifically' much more right than any other contending 'social science') but that it is itself a constantly developing learning process. Domenico Losurdo, who passed away a few months ago, wrote a wonderful essay (I can send you the pdf with bibliography via PM too) that underlines this, in the meantime reckoning with marxism from a post-soviet perspective. It stays faithful to marxism-leninism by not following it down dead-ends (which turn history into a series of betrayals and defeats) but genuinely treating it as a learning dynamic thing. It's a long essay, although much shorter than Engels' treatise, so I think you might find it useful to quickly provide some answers to questions and some pathways to explore.