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The Karamazov Brothers by Fyodor Dostoevsky
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鈥淗urrah for Karamazov!鈥�

Those are the concluding words of this bombastic brick of a book. I am more than willing to chime in, to cheer for the brothers Karamazov who finally, finally made me give in to the genius of Dostoevsky fully, without anger, without resentment and fight, after a year of grappling with his earlier novels.

This is doubtless his magnum opus, the shining lead star in a brilliant cosmos. There are many similarities to his earlier novels, and his characters fight with the same inner demons as the predecessors. And yet, there is something milder, more soothing in the Brothers Karamazov, there is mature perfection in this novel.

Yes, Smerdyakov is an underprivileged, hateful sufferer, but he is not lost to compassion and care in the same way as the nihilistic man writing his Notes from Underground.

And Dimitri is rash and bold and full of contradictions, but he is not as confused as Raskolnikov, he does not impose the dogma of suffering in the sense of Crime and Punishment on his family and community. He has a plan for living, not for suffering.

Ivan is a brooding intellectual, but he is not stone-cold like Stavrogin in Devils. His conflicted heart and intellect are connected to the world.

Alyosha, thank goodness, is a sweet and innocent character, but nothing like the awful Christlike idiot Myshkin from The Idiot. He knows how to live and interact, and he is willing to step away from rigid prejudices and principles to comfort the ones he loves.

What about the women? Grushenka is not destroyed by the love of several men like Nastasya, and even Katerina Ivanovna is given a complex, divided soul, not just a shallow platform for men to use at their convenience and throw away when they have made their point. She has her own points to make.

Why do the Brothers Karamazov work so well?

I believe Dostoyevsky made the decision to paint a family just like it is, with all the contradictory emotions and actions, and all the mood swings and difficult situations. He had already established his religious and political ideas in earlier works, and he could afford to let the characters be what they naturally were, without judging them from the standpoint of history and society. Thus he could be the storyteller he naturally was, without any agenda but love for the story he told.

The plot is both simple and complex: Be careful what you wish for, it might come true!

As the three (or four) brothers and the women they love in different ways and fashions face the murder of the old patriarchal buffoon, all of them have to come to terms with the painful reality of loving and hating at the same time.

A bad parent is still a parent, and a dead parent still has power over the lives of his offspring. The 鈥淜aramazov character鈥�, much cited throughout the novel, becomes a synonym for any human being in his or her dealings with that complicated microcosm called family:

鈥淎nd why? Because he was of the broad Karamazov character - that鈥檚 just what I am leading up to - capable of combining the most incongruous contradictions, and capable of the greatest heights and of the greatest depths.鈥�

Because Dostoyevsky dares to let go of his mission to prove that Russian nationalism and Christian orthodoxie are at the centre of the meaning of life, he actually makes a case for both in a much more convincing way than he ever could with his more concept- and idea-driven earlier works. The humour in the unforgettable scenes with the 鈥渦nspeakable conduct鈥� of the stinking Father Zossima are so much better than the pseudo-Christian rants of Myshkin, and the intellectual understanding of the dangers of community worship in the story of the Grand Inquisitor is as true now as it was back then, showing the way to the core of both religious and political extremism:

鈥淭his craving for community of worship is the chief misery of every man individually and of all humanity from the beginning of time. For the sake of common worship they鈥檝e slain each other with the sword. They have set up gods and challenged one another: Put away your gods and come and worship ours, or we will kill you and your gods.鈥� And so it will be to the end of the world, even when gods disappear from the earth; they will fall down before idols just the same.鈥�

So what is the redeeming feature of the Karamazovs then? Why do I feel like shouting, over and over:

鈥淗urrah for Karamazov!鈥�

They love each other. They really do, in a crooked, angry way, in a distorted, strange way. But they do. They love each other despite being completely different in their approach to life, and they support each other鈥檚 right to life, love and happiness. In the end, they help each other make the best of a muddle (and that is the best any family can do: help each other deal with the blows that families tend to inflict on themselves!).

Exile in a place worse than Siberia (Oh, America, what a delightful irony Dimitri鈥檚 words are!) is manageable if you make peace with your loved ones. And the final pages leave me bowing to the beauty of the insight that man and woman can love each other in so many different ways, and that love is not exclusive, but inclusive.

Dostoyevsky! You wrote the perfect novel. Hurrah!
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Reading Progress

November 1, 2017 – Started Reading
November 1, 2017 – Shelved
November 1, 2017 – Shelved as: 1001-books-to-read-before-you-die
November 1, 2017 – Shelved as: dostoyevsky
November 1, 2017 –
page 46
5.15% "I read the chapter's title with a big smile: "Unfortunate Gathering". Is there any other kind in Dostoyevsky's world of sad clowns, and buffoons? Pleased to discover that the much-loved pattern of putting hot-tempered and incompatible characters in a narrow space is followed in the fifth novel of his that I read this year.
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November 12, 2017 –
page 222
24.86% ""You've just been in our mansion, what did you see there? Three ladies, one a cripple and weak-minded, another a cripple and hunchback and the third not crippled but far too clever."

Oh, what does that "but" tell us of poor women's lives?

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November 22, 2017 –
page 390
43.67% "

As I have recently learned from one of the characters, god gave hysterics to women as a relief from injustice caused by men. Clever move! Now I am laughing hysterically (thanks, god, it helps!) as Alyosha is stuck in the clutches of a woman as a result of being angry with god for making his spiritual hero stink while decomposing. Divine justice?"
December 17, 2017 – Shelved as: favorites
December 17, 2017 – Shelved as: havanas-en-masse
December 17, 2017 – Shelved as: unforgettable
December 17, 2017 – Shelved as: so-good-it-hurts
December 17, 2017 – Finished Reading

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Michael These are such wonderfully perfect illustrations, Lisa! They make me long for an illustrated version of this book.


Lisa Michael wrote: "These are such wonderfully perfect illustrations, Lisa! They make me long for an illustrated version of this book."

Thanks, Michael! I have been seeing Munch before my inner eye ever since I started on my Dostoyevsky odyssey. This is the first time I can also feel a lighter touch, even though the Pierrot is sad of course.


Michael Lisa wrote: "Michael wrote: "These are such wonderfully perfect illustrations, Lisa! They make me long for an illustrated version of this book."

Thanks, Michael! I have been seeing Munch before my inner eye ev..."


Yes, Munch is perfect! And there are those occasional light touches in Dostoyevsky, as he uses humor (often cynical, but still quite funny) to leaven his narrative. It truly is an odyssey.


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Jan-Maat Shocking! Lisa pleased by Doestoevsky!


Lisa Jan-Maat wrote: "Shocking! Lisa pleased by Doestoevsky!"

I know! Maybe I should have waited a bit to write the review, in case my natural anger is just a bit late...


Kalliope I loved this in parts while in others felt I was crawling... but I enjoyed your enthusiasm.


Lisa Kalliope wrote: "I loved this in parts while in others felt I was crawling... but I enjoyed your enthusiasm."

I struggled so much with his other novels that this felt like a vacation. But I wonder whether I would have read it in the same way if this had been my starting point. The Idiot almost broke me down...


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Silvia Cachia I too agree with you, this one compared to The Idiot feels like a vacation. I also felt it crawled at some parts, that's why I read it at a not too slow tempo, to go over the humps. But I think he does well in the end, and the stories and detours add more momentum to the end.


Ivana Books Are Magic love this novel! nice review!


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Lisa Silvia wrote: "I too agree with you, this one compared to The Idiot feels like a vacation. I also felt it crawled at some parts, that's why I read it at a not too slow tempo, to go over the humps. But I think he ..."

I just disagreed with the main character in the Idiot so much that I could not enjoy the storytelling at all, and in Devils, I had such a hard time with the rape of a child, that parricide was harmless by comparison :-)


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Lisa Ivana wrote: "love this novel! nice review!"

Thanks, Ivana!


Shreerag Plakazhi Fantastic review, and a fantastic book. What is most surprising about it really is the humour. It's so funny! But at the times that its poignancy shines through, they hit you like a rock. It really is a special book.


message 13: by Mo (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mo Mo I am glad youread it :). do you think this the finest novel ever written?


Isidora Perfect review of a perfect novel. I agree so much with you, Lisa.


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Lisa Shreerag wrote: "Fantastic review, and a fantastic book. What is most surprising about it really is the humour. It's so funny! But at the times that its poignancy shines through, they hit you like a rock. It really..."

I agree, Shreerag. I wasn't expecting it to be funny, but I laughed outloud when I read the theological deliberations regarding Zossima's decomposition. And the trial...


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Steven Godin I must tackle this someday. It seems to get the thumbs up from just about everybody!.


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Ivan Me too!


message 18: by Hugh (new) - rated it 5 stars

Hugh This was my first Dosteyevsky and is still my favourite (The Idiot is a close second). I read the modern Ignet Avsey translation rather than the Garnett. A great review that reminds me of so many of the elements that made it such a rewarding read.


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Lisa Mohamad wrote: "I am glad youread it :). do you think this the finest novel ever written?"

That's a tricky question, Mohamad. It is not my favourite, not even top five I guess, but that is a matter of taste. Hard to choose between the best of the best...


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Lisa Isidora wrote: "Perfect review of a perfect novel. I agree so much with you, Lisa."

Thank you so much, Isidora! Happy you like it too.


Seemita Oh my dearie! You write one of my favorite reviews of the year, Lisa! And of one of my all-time favorite books! I can't agree with you enough on your appraisal of this tour de force work of D in the last few years of his life. I think the clarity you talked about might have its origin in the death of Alyosha, D's 3-year old son - the event also happens to be a key driver behind penning this book and naming its hero as such. Thank you bringing back my memories of living with the three brothers, and their father, and their loves and life. We have the Karamazovs in the house! :)


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Lisa Steven wrote: "I must tackle this someday. It seems to get the thumbs up from just about everybody!."

Yes, I definitely recommend you to read it, even though it is time-consuming. Somehow there are some books that are more powerfulthan others...


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Lisa Ivan wrote: "Me too!"

It is in the eternal literary hall of fame :-)


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Mo Mo Lisa, would you please name your top 5 ?


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Lisa Mohamad wrote: "Lisa, would you please name your top 5 ?"

I have been thinking for ten straight minutes, and there are so manybooks fighting in my head now that I find it impossible to answer the question, especially since it is a matter of changing taste. Most books are beloved for entirely different reasons as well. But here is a number of books I would reread any time (and before BK), in no particular order:

Don Quixote
One Hundred Years of Solitude
Midnight's Children
Madame Bovary
Beloved
Of Human Bondage
The Grapes of Wrath

Anything by Goethe, Voltaire, Diderot, Dickens, Camus, Virginia Woolf, Heinrich B枚ll and Selma Lagerl枚f... I consider Dostoyevsky one of the great writers of world literature, but he is by no means the only giant, and not my favourite - which only tells you something about my (changing) taste, not about his writing. And then you have all the poets and playwrights and, and, and... Question back: what are your favourites?


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Kevin Ansbro An impressive review to match your impressive list of reads this year, Lisa.
A list so highbrow at times that the brows were floating above the heads, like flying caterpillars!
: )
Never settle for mediocre.


message 27: by Mo (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mo Mo Thank you, you have a refined taste, I read most of them except for Beloved and Midnight's Children. I hope you do something by Zola.


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Lisa Mohamad wrote: "Thank you, you have a refined taste, I read most of them except for Beloved and Midnight's Children. I hope you do something by Zola."

Of course! My Zola collection is one of my most precious possessions. How could I forget? Thanks, Mohamad. It's time for another Rougon Macquart soon :-)


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Neil I loved the Inquisitor-Zosima 鈥渄ebate鈥� but I couldn鈥檛 relate to any other part of this book. The soul of the book felt lost in translation


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Lisa Seemita wrote: "Oh my dearie! You write one of my favorite reviews of the year, Lisa! And of one of my all-time favorite books! I can't agree with you enough on your appraisal of this tour de force work of D in th..."

Thank you for the added nuance, Seemita! So grateful for your comment! The funny thing is, one of my sons and I have been reading two different family novels simultaneously, and are now debating whether we are more Karamazovs or Buddenbrooks. My growing up with brothers expands the discussion, and makes both novels seem relevant!


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Lisa Kevin wrote: "An impressive review to match your impressive list of reads this year, Lisa.
A list so highbrow at times that the brows were floating above the heads, like flying caterpillars!
: )
Never settle for..."


Yes, mediocre is worse than horrible - for that's at least not boring. Iwonder if I can get my high-flying brows back though? Not good for my vanity at all to lose them. But good for my mood that you made me laugh like that, Kevin!


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Lisa Neil wrote: "I loved the Inquisitor-Zosima 鈥渄ebate鈥� but I couldn鈥檛 relate to any other part of this book. The soul of the book felt lost in translation"

I felt that more with The Idiot and Devils - being very, very Russian. I could relate better to the emotional rollercoaster of family life. However, Dostoyevsky has been the best literary struggle in 2017 for me.


Shreerag Plakazhi Lisa wrote: "Shreerag wrote: "Fantastic review, and a fantastic book. What is most surprising about it really is the humour. It's so funny! But at the times that its poignancy shines through, they hit you like ..."

Despite his death being announced in the back cover of the book, Fyodor is the most hilarious. Dostoyevsky has an innate ability to push through sarcasm through the page. It's uncanny. That scene where they all met Zossima for the first time had me in stitches.


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Seemita Lisa wrote: "Seemita wrote: "Oh my dearie! You write one of my favorite reviews of the year, Lisa! And of one of my all-time favorite books! I can't agree with you enough on your appraisal of this tour de force..."

Whoa! That's a roaring literary family :)


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Lisa Shreerag wrote: "Lisa wrote: "Shreerag wrote: "Fantastic review, and a fantastic book. What is most surprising about it really is the humour. It's so funny! But at the times that its poignancy shines through, they ..."

Oh yes, that scene is hilarious! Family in a nutshell!


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Dimitri Exile in a place worse than Siberia (Oh, America, what a delightful irony Dimitri鈥檚 words are!) - LOL

"Mature.... Magnum Opus" = the perfect place to start with Dostojevski ?


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Lisa Dimitri wrote: "Exile in a place worse than Siberia (Oh, America, what a delightful irony Dimitri鈥檚 words are!) - LOL

"Mature.... Magnum Opus" = the perfect place to start with Dostojevski ?"


Probably, Dimitri! It is a great way to close a Dostoyevsky year as well.


message 39: by Ray (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ray Great review of an outstanding novel. In the end family is the great constant in most peoples lives, and Mr D captures this so well. I would still rate Crime and Punishment a smidgeon above BK though


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Lisa Ray wrote: "Great review of an outstanding novel. In the end family is the great constant in most peoples lives, and Mr D captures this so well. I would still rate Crime and Punishment a smidgeon above BK though"

I agree that C&P is more interesting, Ray! But it was my first Dostoevsky, and I was still furious with his Christian suffering and misogyny then :-)


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Ilse Great review, I loved your closing paragraph, Lisa. You make me want to revisit it, this time hopefully without being confined to a hospital bed with concussion and some fractures.


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Lisa Ilse wrote: "Great review, I loved your closing paragraph, Lisa. You make me want to revisit it, this time hopefully without being confined to a hospital bed with concussion and some fractures."

Oh, that sounds like a strong cocktail, Ilse! Dostoevsky plus a dramatic situation of your own at the same time. Maybe it gave your reading extra depth, though!


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Lisa Seemita wrote: "Lisa wrote: "Seemita wrote: "Oh my dearie! You write one of my favorite reviews of the year, Lisa! And of one of my all-time favorite books! I can't agree with you enough on your appraisal of this ..."

Yes, indeed.


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Eleanor And you wrote a perfect review to celebrate it! Thank you Lisa.


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Lisa Eleanor wrote: "And you wrote a perfect review to celebrate it! Thank you Lisa."

Thank you, Eleanor!


message 46: by Anu (new) - rated it 5 stars

Anu And yet, there is something milder, more soothing in the Brothers Karamazov, there is mature perfection in this novel. I couldn't agree more, though my personal favourite is Crime and Punishment. Wonderful analysis, Lisa!


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Lisa Anuradha wrote: "And yet, there is something milder, more soothing in the Brothers Karamazov, there is mature perfection in this novel. I couldn't agree more, though my personal favourite is Crime and Punishment. W..."

Thanks, Anuradha! I think I had more fun reading C&P as well, but BK felt like a more accomplished novel, if that makes sense.


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Siarhei It's been my pleasure to read this review. I read the book 2-3 years ago in Russian, and it's still one of my favourites.


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Lisa Siarhei wrote: "It's been my pleasure to read this review. I read the book 2-3 years ago in Russian, and it's still one of my favourites."

Thank you, Siarhei! That makes me very happy!


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Jane Upshall One of my favorite books!


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