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The Karamazov Brothers
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Nov 01, 2017
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鈥淗urrah for Karamazov!鈥�
Those are the concluding words of this bombastic brick of a book. I am more than willing to chime in, to cheer for the brothers Karamazov who finally, finally made me give in to the genius of Dostoevsky fully, without anger, without resentment and fight, after a year of grappling with his earlier novels.
This is doubtless his magnum opus, the shining lead star in a brilliant cosmos. There are many similarities to his earlier novels, and his characters fight with the same inner demons as the predecessors. And yet, there is something milder, more soothing in the Brothers Karamazov, there is mature perfection in this novel.
Yes, Smerdyakov is an underprivileged, hateful sufferer, but he is not lost to compassion and care in the same way as the nihilistic man writing his Notes from Underground.
And Dimitri is rash and bold and full of contradictions, but he is not as confused as Raskolnikov, he does not impose the dogma of suffering in the sense of Crime and Punishment on his family and community. He has a plan for living, not for suffering.
Ivan is a brooding intellectual, but he is not stone-cold like Stavrogin in Devils. His conflicted heart and intellect are connected to the world.
Alyosha, thank goodness, is a sweet and innocent character, but nothing like the awful Christlike idiot Myshkin from The Idiot. He knows how to live and interact, and he is willing to step away from rigid prejudices and principles to comfort the ones he loves.
What about the women? Grushenka is not destroyed by the love of several men like Nastasya, and even Katerina Ivanovna is given a complex, divided soul, not just a shallow platform for men to use at their convenience and throw away when they have made their point. She has her own points to make.
Why do the Brothers Karamazov work so well?
I believe Dostoyevsky made the decision to paint a family just like it is, with all the contradictory emotions and actions, and all the mood swings and difficult situations. He had already established his religious and political ideas in earlier works, and he could afford to let the characters be what they naturally were, without judging them from the standpoint of history and society. Thus he could be the storyteller he naturally was, without any agenda but love for the story he told.
The plot is both simple and complex: Be careful what you wish for, it might come true!
As the three (or four) brothers and the women they love in different ways and fashions face the murder of the old patriarchal buffoon, all of them have to come to terms with the painful reality of loving and hating at the same time.
A bad parent is still a parent, and a dead parent still has power over the lives of his offspring. The 鈥淜aramazov character鈥�, much cited throughout the novel, becomes a synonym for any human being in his or her dealings with that complicated microcosm called family:
鈥淎nd why? Because he was of the broad Karamazov character - that鈥檚 just what I am leading up to - capable of combining the most incongruous contradictions, and capable of the greatest heights and of the greatest depths.鈥�
Because Dostoyevsky dares to let go of his mission to prove that Russian nationalism and Christian orthodoxie are at the centre of the meaning of life, he actually makes a case for both in a much more convincing way than he ever could with his more concept- and idea-driven earlier works. The humour in the unforgettable scenes with the 鈥渦nspeakable conduct鈥� of the stinking Father Zossima are so much better than the pseudo-Christian rants of Myshkin, and the intellectual understanding of the dangers of community worship in the story of the Grand Inquisitor is as true now as it was back then, showing the way to the core of both religious and political extremism:
鈥淭his craving for community of worship is the chief misery of every man individually and of all humanity from the beginning of time. For the sake of common worship they鈥檝e slain each other with the sword. They have set up gods and challenged one another: Put away your gods and come and worship ours, or we will kill you and your gods.鈥� And so it will be to the end of the world, even when gods disappear from the earth; they will fall down before idols just the same.鈥�
So what is the redeeming feature of the Karamazovs then? Why do I feel like shouting, over and over:
鈥淗urrah for Karamazov!鈥�
They love each other. They really do, in a crooked, angry way, in a distorted, strange way. But they do. They love each other despite being completely different in their approach to life, and they support each other鈥檚 right to life, love and happiness. In the end, they help each other make the best of a muddle (and that is the best any family can do: help each other deal with the blows that families tend to inflict on themselves!).
Exile in a place worse than Siberia (Oh, America, what a delightful irony Dimitri鈥檚 words are!) is manageable if you make peace with your loved ones. And the final pages leave me bowing to the beauty of the insight that man and woman can love each other in so many different ways, and that love is not exclusive, but inclusive.
Dostoyevsky! You wrote the perfect novel. Hurrah!
Those are the concluding words of this bombastic brick of a book. I am more than willing to chime in, to cheer for the brothers Karamazov who finally, finally made me give in to the genius of Dostoevsky fully, without anger, without resentment and fight, after a year of grappling with his earlier novels.
This is doubtless his magnum opus, the shining lead star in a brilliant cosmos. There are many similarities to his earlier novels, and his characters fight with the same inner demons as the predecessors. And yet, there is something milder, more soothing in the Brothers Karamazov, there is mature perfection in this novel.
Yes, Smerdyakov is an underprivileged, hateful sufferer, but he is not lost to compassion and care in the same way as the nihilistic man writing his Notes from Underground.
And Dimitri is rash and bold and full of contradictions, but he is not as confused as Raskolnikov, he does not impose the dogma of suffering in the sense of Crime and Punishment on his family and community. He has a plan for living, not for suffering.
Ivan is a brooding intellectual, but he is not stone-cold like Stavrogin in Devils. His conflicted heart and intellect are connected to the world.
Alyosha, thank goodness, is a sweet and innocent character, but nothing like the awful Christlike idiot Myshkin from The Idiot. He knows how to live and interact, and he is willing to step away from rigid prejudices and principles to comfort the ones he loves.
What about the women? Grushenka is not destroyed by the love of several men like Nastasya, and even Katerina Ivanovna is given a complex, divided soul, not just a shallow platform for men to use at their convenience and throw away when they have made their point. She has her own points to make.
Why do the Brothers Karamazov work so well?
I believe Dostoyevsky made the decision to paint a family just like it is, with all the contradictory emotions and actions, and all the mood swings and difficult situations. He had already established his religious and political ideas in earlier works, and he could afford to let the characters be what they naturally were, without judging them from the standpoint of history and society. Thus he could be the storyteller he naturally was, without any agenda but love for the story he told.
The plot is both simple and complex: Be careful what you wish for, it might come true!
As the three (or four) brothers and the women they love in different ways and fashions face the murder of the old patriarchal buffoon, all of them have to come to terms with the painful reality of loving and hating at the same time.
A bad parent is still a parent, and a dead parent still has power over the lives of his offspring. The 鈥淜aramazov character鈥�, much cited throughout the novel, becomes a synonym for any human being in his or her dealings with that complicated microcosm called family:
鈥淎nd why? Because he was of the broad Karamazov character - that鈥檚 just what I am leading up to - capable of combining the most incongruous contradictions, and capable of the greatest heights and of the greatest depths.鈥�
Because Dostoyevsky dares to let go of his mission to prove that Russian nationalism and Christian orthodoxie are at the centre of the meaning of life, he actually makes a case for both in a much more convincing way than he ever could with his more concept- and idea-driven earlier works. The humour in the unforgettable scenes with the 鈥渦nspeakable conduct鈥� of the stinking Father Zossima are so much better than the pseudo-Christian rants of Myshkin, and the intellectual understanding of the dangers of community worship in the story of the Grand Inquisitor is as true now as it was back then, showing the way to the core of both religious and political extremism:
鈥淭his craving for community of worship is the chief misery of every man individually and of all humanity from the beginning of time. For the sake of common worship they鈥檝e slain each other with the sword. They have set up gods and challenged one another: Put away your gods and come and worship ours, or we will kill you and your gods.鈥� And so it will be to the end of the world, even when gods disappear from the earth; they will fall down before idols just the same.鈥�
So what is the redeeming feature of the Karamazovs then? Why do I feel like shouting, over and over:
鈥淗urrah for Karamazov!鈥�
They love each other. They really do, in a crooked, angry way, in a distorted, strange way. But they do. They love each other despite being completely different in their approach to life, and they support each other鈥檚 right to life, love and happiness. In the end, they help each other make the best of a muddle (and that is the best any family can do: help each other deal with the blows that families tend to inflict on themselves!).
Exile in a place worse than Siberia (Oh, America, what a delightful irony Dimitri鈥檚 words are!) is manageable if you make peace with your loved ones. And the final pages leave me bowing to the beauty of the insight that man and woman can love each other in so many different ways, and that love is not exclusive, but inclusive.
Dostoyevsky! You wrote the perfect novel. Hurrah!
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"I read the chapter's title with a big smile: "Unfortunate Gathering". Is there any other kind in Dostoyevsky's world of sad clowns, and buffoons? Pleased to discover that the much-loved pattern of putting hot-tempered and incompatible characters in a narrow space is followed in the fifth novel of his that I read this year.
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""You've just been in our mansion, what did you see there? Three ladies, one a cripple and weak-minded, another a cripple and hunchback and the third not crippled but far too clever."
Oh, what does that "but" tell us of poor women's lives?
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Oh, what does that "but" tell us of poor women's lives?

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As I have recently learned from one of the characters, god gave hysterics to women as a relief from injustice caused by men. Clever move! Now I am laughing hysterically (thanks, god, it helps!) as Alyosha is stuck in the clutches of a woman as a result of being angry with god for making his spiritual hero stink while decomposing. Divine justice?"
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As I have recently learned from one of the characters, god gave hysterics to women as a relief from injustice caused by men. Clever move! Now I am laughing hysterically (thanks, god, it helps!) as Alyosha is stuck in the clutches of a woman as a result of being angry with god for making his spiritual hero stink while decomposing. Divine justice?"
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Thanks, Michael! I have been seeing Munch before my inner eye ever since I started on my Dostoyevsky odyssey. This is the first time I can also feel a lighter touch, even though the Pierrot is sad of course.

Thanks, Michael! I have been seeing Munch before my inner eye ev..."
Yes, Munch is perfect! And there are those occasional light touches in Dostoyevsky, as he uses humor (often cynical, but still quite funny) to leaven his narrative. It truly is an odyssey.

I know! Maybe I should have waited a bit to write the review, in case my natural anger is just a bit late...

I struggled so much with his other novels that this felt like a vacation. But I wonder whether I would have read it in the same way if this had been my starting point. The Idiot almost broke me down...


I just disagreed with the main character in the Idiot so much that I could not enjoy the storytelling at all, and in Devils, I had such a hard time with the rape of a child, that parricide was harmless by comparison :-)


I agree, Shreerag. I wasn't expecting it to be funny, but I laughed outloud when I read the theological deliberations regarding Zossima's decomposition. And the trial...


That's a tricky question, Mohamad. It is not my favourite, not even top five I guess, but that is a matter of taste. Hard to choose between the best of the best...

Thank you so much, Isidora! Happy you like it too.


Yes, I definitely recommend you to read it, even though it is time-consuming. Somehow there are some books that are more powerfulthan others...

I have been thinking for ten straight minutes, and there are so manybooks fighting in my head now that I find it impossible to answer the question, especially since it is a matter of changing taste. Most books are beloved for entirely different reasons as well. But here is a number of books I would reread any time (and before BK), in no particular order:
Don Quixote
One Hundred Years of Solitude
Midnight's Children
Madame Bovary
Beloved
Of Human Bondage
The Grapes of Wrath
Anything by Goethe, Voltaire, Diderot, Dickens, Camus, Virginia Woolf, Heinrich B枚ll and Selma Lagerl枚f... I consider Dostoyevsky one of the great writers of world literature, but he is by no means the only giant, and not my favourite - which only tells you something about my (changing) taste, not about his writing. And then you have all the poets and playwrights and, and, and... Question back: what are your favourites?

A list so highbrow at times that the brows were floating above the heads, like flying caterpillars!
: )
Never settle for mediocre.


Of course! My Zola collection is one of my most precious possessions. How could I forget? Thanks, Mohamad. It's time for another Rougon Macquart soon :-)


Thank you for the added nuance, Seemita! So grateful for your comment! The funny thing is, one of my sons and I have been reading two different family novels simultaneously, and are now debating whether we are more Karamazovs or Buddenbrooks. My growing up with brothers expands the discussion, and makes both novels seem relevant!

A list so highbrow at times that the brows were floating above the heads, like flying caterpillars!
: )
Never settle for..."
Yes, mediocre is worse than horrible - for that's at least not boring. Iwonder if I can get my high-flying brows back though? Not good for my vanity at all to lose them. But good for my mood that you made me laugh like that, Kevin!

I felt that more with The Idiot and Devils - being very, very Russian. I could relate better to the emotional rollercoaster of family life. However, Dostoyevsky has been the best literary struggle in 2017 for me.

Despite his death being announced in the back cover of the book, Fyodor is the most hilarious. Dostoyevsky has an innate ability to push through sarcasm through the page. It's uncanny. That scene where they all met Zossima for the first time had me in stitches.

Whoa! That's a roaring literary family :)

Oh yes, that scene is hilarious! Family in a nutshell!

"Mature.... Magnum Opus" = the perfect place to start with Dostojevski ?

"Mature.... Magnum Opus" = the perfect place to start with Dostojevski ?"
Probably, Dimitri! It is a great way to close a Dostoyevsky year as well.


I agree that C&P is more interesting, Ray! But it was my first Dostoevsky, and I was still furious with his Christian suffering and misogyny then :-)


Oh, that sounds like a strong cocktail, Ilse! Dostoevsky plus a dramatic situation of your own at the same time. Maybe it gave your reading extra depth, though!

Yes, indeed.


Thanks, Anuradha! I think I had more fun reading C&P as well, but BK felt like a more accomplished novel, if that makes sense.


Thank you, Siarhei! That makes me very happy!