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Milkman by Anna Burns
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“There was food and drink. The right butter. The wrong butter. The tea of allegiance. The tea of betrayal. There were ‘our shops� and ‘their shops�. Placenames. What school you went to. What prayers you said. What hymns you sang. How you pronounced your ‘haitch� or ‘aitch�. Where you went to work. And of course there were bus-stops. There was the fact that you created a political statement everywhere you went, and with everything you did, even if you didn’t want to.�


I remember a saying from my childhood: You can’t win for losing. Or another, damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Both of these apply for this eighteen-year-old unnamed girl whose mother has been badgering her to get married since she was sixteen � marry and pop out babies.

Everything is unnamed, but it’s obviously Ireland during The Troubles, when whether she chose a side or not, she was assumed to have one because of her family and kinfolk. What she said or did or to whom she spoke or how she behaved was watched (cameras click in the bushes and from windows) and reported ‘back� to someone somewhere. An unwary remark or meeting could be noted out of context (the milkman stopped to talk to her), and by the time she got home, ma was waiting, ready to berate her for having an affair with a married man.

She couldn’t win. She does have a secret maybe-boyfriend but won’t let him come to her house because ma will browbeat him into marrying her, which she doesn’t want. What she wants is something that was another popular phrase many years ago, to turn on, tune in, drop out. She hides behind very old books (as do a lot of readers) to the extent that she’s known for always reading-while-walking. Nose in a book. Oblivious.

She is criticised, not for the reason we criticise each other now for looking at our smart phones (danger of walking into pedestrians or traffic), but because she should be watchful.

“On the other hand, being up on, having awareness, clocking everything � both of rumour and of actuality � didn’t prevent things from happening or allow for intervention on, or reversal of things that had already happened. Knowledge didn’t guarantee power, safety or relief and often for some it meant the opposite of power, safety and relief � leaving no outlet for dispersal either, of all the heightened stimuli that had been built by being up on in the first place. Purposely not wanting to know therefore, was exactly what my reading-while-walking was about.�

That is a rather dry paragraph, while the story itself flows freely and doesn’t lend itself to skimming, at least not for me. It’s the kind of writing where I may go back to the beginning of the last break to enjoy how she took me from one thought or place to another.

The humour is black, the situation dire. Families number their losses by how many have been shot and/or killed by someone from ‘across the road� or the ‘other side� or by the army from ‘over the water� or who have died in accidents (bombs that go off at the wrong time) or suicided. Then there’s the drink that so many hide in and depression like her father’s when he was alive.

“She meant depressions, for da had had them: big, massive, scudding, whopping, black-cloud, infectious, crow, raven, jackdaw, coffin-upon-coffin, catacomb-upon-catacomb, skeletons-upon-skulls-upon-bones crawling along the ground to the grave type of depressions.�

People are called and addressed as “first sister�, “first brother-in-law�, and the best are the “wee sisters� whom she is helping to raise. She is middle sister and does not want her eyes opened, she wants to drop out, but then again, she does want to learn, and she’s taking French classes, but she doesn’t want any part of the fighting, burying guns, patching up wounds in back huts, and never trusting anyone but being suspicious of everyone.

�. . . for us, in our community, on ‘our side of the road�, the government here was the enemy, and the police here was the enemy, and the government ‘over there� was the enemy, and the soldiers from ‘over there� were the enemy, and the defender-paramilitaries from ‘over the road� were the enemy and, by extension � thanks to suspicion and history and paranoia � the hospital, the electricity board, the gas board, the water board, the school board, telephone people and anybody wearing a uniform or garments easily to be mistaken for a uniform also were the enemy, and where we were viewed in our turn by our enemies as the enemy � in those dark days, which were the extreme of days, if we hadn’t had the renouncers as our underground buffer between us and this overwhelming and combined enemy, who else, in all the world, would we have had?�

So you can’t win. She can’t win. She does have an epiphany when her French teacher insists on telling their class that the sky ‘out there� can be any colour, not just the three colours they allow: blue (day), black (night), and white (clouds). She drags them down the corridor to watch a sunset through a big window.

“If what she was saying was true, that the sky � out there � not out there � whatever � could be any colour, that meant anything could be any colour, that anything could be anything, that anything could happen, at any time, in any place, in the whole of the world, and to anybody � probably had too, only we just hadn’t noticed. So no. After generation upon generation, fathers upon forefathers, mothers upon foremothers, centuries and millennia of being one colour officially and three colours unofficially, a colourful sky, just like that, could not be allowed to be.
. . .
Here teacher bade us look at the sky from this brand new perspective, where the sun � enormous and of the most gigantic orange-red colour � in a sky too, with no blue in it � was going down behind buildings in a section of windowpane.

As for this sky, it was now a mix of pink and lemon with a glow of mauve behind it. It had changed colours during our short trip along the corridor and before our eyes was changing colours yet. An emerging gold above the mauve was moving towards a slip of silver, with a different mauve in a corner drifting in from the side. Then there was further pinking. Then more lilac. Then a turquoise that pressed clouds � not white � out of its way.�


And there you pretty much have the cover of this fantastic book, this imaginative look into a young woman’s mind that is frightened of being opened but terrified of being empty.

I loved it and was delighted to see it win the 2018 Booker Prize. There's an interesting review in The Irish Times (before the prize decision) about some of the background.
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Reading Progress

November 15, 2018 – Shelved
June 7, 2019 – Started Reading
June 7, 2019 –
7.0% "I am LOVING this so far! I'm just going with the flow."
June 13, 2019 – Finished Reading

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Bianca (Away) Splendid review. I'm so happy to see your 5-stars. This was one original, poignant novel.


PattyMacDotComma Bianca wrote: "Splendid review. I'm so happy to see your 5-stars. This was one original, poignant novel."

Thanks, Bianca. It's not quite like anything else I've read, but it was so easy in its own way. Sad but still warm and hopeful. At least I like to think it's a little hopeful.

Now I can safely enjoy your review, too. :)


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Tucker Fantastic review Patty!


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Ellen I'm just starting this book and your review gave me a taste of what's in store for me! Thank you.


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Deanna Fantastic review!!


PattyMacDotComma Tucker wrote: "Fantastic review Patty!"

Thank you, Tucker. :)


PattyMacDotComma Ellie wrote: "I'm just starting this book and your review gave me a taste of what's in store for me! Thank you."

Oh, I so hope you enjoy it, Ellie. I think it's unique and fun and real.


PattyMacDotComma Deanna wrote: "Fantastic review!!"

Thanks, Deanna!


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Carolyn I've heard such mixed reviews of this; it's been on and off my TBR. On again now I think!


PattyMacDotComma Carolyn wrote: "I've heard such mixed reviews of this; it's been on and off my TBR. On again now I think!"

Me too, Carolyn. I very much enjoyed Fionnuala's review which gives you a rough idea of how the flow goes. It's not stream-of-consciousness, but I found it very visual and could see why she would want to escape but still be there with her family.
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Angela M Patty, your terrific review has me thinking I need to move this up .


PattyMacDotComma Angela M wrote: "Patty, your terrific review has me thinking I need to move this up ."

Great! I admit I was worried about being disappointed again by another prize-winner, but I've had some good luck lately, and this one is a deserving beauty!


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Peter Boyle "this imaginative look into a young woman’s mind that is frightened of being opened but terrified of being empty."

That's such a great line, Patty. Glad to hear you liked this one so much, even if I didn't get on with it myself.


PattyMacDotComma Peter wrote: " "this imaginative look into a young woman’s mind that is frightened of being opened but terrified of being empty."

That's such a great line, Patty. Glad to hear you liked this one so much, even ..."


Sorry you didn't connect, but I've seen some mixed reviews. As for the line, I pinched the idea from what teachers try to do, replace an empty mind with an open one. I do think she's scared of getting too close to the facts.


Sophie Wow, you’ve got me excited to pick this one up.


PattyMacDotComma Sophie wrote: "Wow, you’ve got me excited to pick this one up."

I don't always like the prize-winners, but this one I loved! Hope it's the same for you. :)


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Dem So Glad this one worked for you Patty as I really struggled with it, but love to see others enjoying it.


PattyMacDotComma Dem wrote: "So Glad this one worked for you Patty as I really struggled with it, but love to see others enjoying it."

You review is one that had me worried, Dem. I've just had a look at it again, and I reckon this is a book that's better read than listened to or at least read along with the narration. Her writing does weave around in circles, and I think I would lose interest without being able to go back and forth a bit. I can certainly understand why opinions are divided!


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Diane S ☔ Terrific review Patti.


Kat valentine ( Katsbookcornerreads) Excellent review!!😉💖


PattyMacDotComma Diane S � wrote: "Terrific review Patti."

Thanks, Diane. :)


PattyMacDotComma Kat wrote: "Excellent review!!😉💖"

Thank you, Kat!


Daniel Chaikin Terrific review, brought the book back to me. Love all the quotes. I agree, per our other discussion, better to read it, than listen, but when i read the excepts, it’s in the voice and accent of the audio reader.


PattyMacDotComma Daniel wrote: "Terrific review, brought the book back to me. Love all the quotes. I agree, per our other discussion, better to read it, than listen, but when i read the excepts, it’s in the voice and accent of th..."

That's good to know, Daniel. I did find myself sometimes rereading parts because I enjoyed the flow. I really did like the style in this one, but I wouldn't want to read everything like that.


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Candi A superb review, Patty! I can see where I definitely need to fit this one in. It sounds quite unique - or in the very least, much different from my 'typical' fare. I will seek it out in hard copy. I'm not very skilled with audio to begin with, so would likely get lost!


PattyMacDotComma Candi wrote: "A superb review, Patty! I can see where I definitely need to fit this one in. It sounds quite unique - or in the very least, much different from my 'typical' fare. I will seek it out in hard copy. ..."

Thanks very much, Candi. I sure hope you fall into the camp with the enthusiasts. :)


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Fionnuala I remember you commenting on my review that you hoped to read this book, Patty, so I'm very glad you did and with such a good outcome. Yours is one of the most convincing reviews I've read. All the Renounces of Milkman out there should read your words � they'd become Defenders immediately, I'm certain.


PattyMacDotComma Fionnuala wrote: "I remember you commenting on my review that you hoped to read this book, Patty, so I'm very glad you did and with such a good outcome. Yours is one of the most convincing reviews I've read. All the..."

Your review is what convinced me to read it, Fionnuala, so if mine can drag anyone else to the bookshop or library for a copy, great! I think some readers lose the fun of a book by trying to pick words apart to get every sly reference or deep meaning and they miss the tone and the flow. Books like this should just wash over you and leave you warmly grateful for having made themselves available to you. Of course, if you really know the territory and the history (and the literary references), you'll probably get more than I did from it, but I thought it was terrific!

By the way, I wonder why my GR page here tells me you've "added it" but doesn't show me your rating. How odd. But at least when I click on the "added it", I am taken to your review. :)


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Fionnuala Glad to know I had a role in making you read Milkman, Patty.
About the lack of rating, I'm afraid I've got a little bit of middle sister's nonconformism in my dna. I don't use star ratings because I feel that books (unlike restaurants or hotels) are very unique and individual, and often very idiosyncratic too, like this one, so that I find it impossible to rate the experience of reading one against another. I prefer to let the review convey the value I found in each book. ŷ used to have a tag that said 'read it' for books we'd given no star ratings to but now they've changed that to simple 'added it'. I feel punished but I refuse to change my ways :-)
Although, in the case of this book, I might just make an exception. The next review to mine in the gr community lists is a one star review so, in a way, it's the top rating and it's hard to see one star being the top rating. Hmm. What would middle sister do? Would she compromise...


PattyMacDotComma Fionnuala wrote: "Glad to know I had a role in making you read Milkman, Patty.
About the lack of rating, I'm afraid I've got a little bit of middle sister's nonconformism in my dna. I don't use star ..."


Middle sister had to call in the troops when she was trying to fight her mum’s yes-buts (as I think they were called), because she didn’t have enough influence herself. So I can see that she would avoid a star-rating in order to keep a low profile.

Your review shows first because it has the most “likes� and the one-star review that follows has the next most “likes�. If you always have a lot of “likes�, your reviews should always be near the top, but when I’m checking whether or not I really want to read a book I filter the reviews to see who loved a book and why or who hated it and why.

There are so many popular books that I really don’t care for, just as there are plenty of award-winners that leave me cold. That’s why I enjoyed your review so much, and if you put 5 stars on it, people who want to know what there is to love about it will be sure to find it.

I agree the rating system is awful, just like democracy, but in the same way, I don’t think we’ve found an alternative. I decided to just rate by how much I really enjoyed a book compared to other similar ones. It’s awful because it’s sometimes like sorting children.

I’ve seen some reviewers who do usually rate books decide not to rate one they really l disliked - but if we all do that, bad books will rise up the ranks because we don’t add our weight to the conversation.

And it can be kind of satisfying to give only a star or two to a real dud, but don’t tell anyone I said so. : )

You’ve got so much clout (and I don’t think it’s because you eschew stars) that you owe it to the rest of us to add your power to the only system we’ve got!

Some of the most “popular� reviewers seem to be teenagers with OMG WOW GUSH reviews with flashing gifs about the latest world-building sci-fi romance and thousands of ‘friends�. We need YOU to counterbalance!


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Fionnuala PattyMacDotComma wrote: "...when I’m checking whether or not I really want to read a book I filter the reviews to see who loved a book and why or who hated it and why..."

That's a strong argument for the star ratings for sure, Patti, but it's also an argument against them, at least for someone like me who doesn't write reviews to influence people but rather to record their own reading experience. Of course it's a real pleasure when other readers Like and Comment, and I'm always glad when someone discovers a book they love because of something I've written about it but I'm very aware of the idiosyncratic nature of my book choices and would hate to think that people were guided to read certain books I five starred because I'd probably five star most things I read anyway because I enjoy them so much, and in any case I'd feel bad about not treating them fairly. And then there would be the rare few I'd have to one star and I'd feel bad about that too, so not rating is win-win for me.
Phew! Just talking about rating books has me out in a cold sweat!
But thanks for all your lovely words. Much appreciated.


PattyMacDotComma Fionnuala wrote: "PattyMacDotComma wrote: "...when I’m checking whether or not I really want to read a book I filter the reviews to see who loved a book and why or who hated it and why..."

That's a strong argument ..."


Well said! Carry on, Fionnuala, carry on!


message 33: by Rae (new)

Rae Great review, Patty! I've had this book in mind for a long time and just haven't picked it up. Glad you found it a 5 star read.


PattyMacDotComma Rae wrote: "Great review, Patty! I've had this book in mind for a long time and just haven't picked it up. Glad you found it a 5 star read."

Thanks, and I was the same, Rae. I thought it might be a difficult read, but I found it a lot of fun. Yes, her mind runs along some interesting pathways as she makes her way through a rather fractured world, but there is a lot of warmth and humour and it was great!


message 35: by Gary (new) - rated it 4 stars

Gary Daly I loved this book, I just wanted to see what you thought and saw in this novel. I enjoyed reading your thorough review.


PattyMacDotComma Gary wrote: "I loved this book, I just wanted to see what you thought and saw in this novel. I enjoyed reading your thorough review."

Thanks, Gary. I just read and enjoyed (and 'liked') yours as well. I was worried this might be to hard to read after hearing all the hype, but I just loved it!


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