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Franny and Zooey by J.D. Salinger
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it was amazing
bookshelves: top-20
Read 10 times. Last read January 1, 1975.

I swore to myself that I would write a review of this book before the end of 2010, so here goes. I should issue a warning - I'm totally stoked up on hot Jameson toddies due to this nasty cold that took over my body on Monday (recipe: ample whiskey, cloves, lemons and suagar, all of which you mash together - and this is important - BEFORE you add the hot water; then guzzle as the situation demands). But then, it was unlikely that I would ever be able to review this - one of my top 3 books of all time - stone cold sober. And for those who wonder what kind of difference there might be between reviews on goodreads and those posted on other sites, rest assured - this is the kind of review I am self-aware enough never to post anywhere else. But self-indulgent enough, and trusting enough, to risk here on goodreads.

I think the main reason I love this book so much is that, no matter how many times I read it, every time I do it feels as if Salinger is speaking directly to me. When I first came across it (from reading "Catcher in the Rye", of course) it felt as if I had been stumbling through this enormous library all my life when suddenly I came across this secret text that had been written just for me, and only for me. Now, I'm not an idiot, so of course one part of me knows that this isn't so - there are no "magic texts", nobody is out there writing just for me. But though, on the surface I am this consummate rationalist (I have a Ph.D. in mathematical statistics, for Chrissakes), thank God I am at some level smart enough to appreciate the magic in finding a text that seems to speak to me so forcefully.

"I'm not an idiot". No. In fact I'm super-smart (not arrogance, just a statement of fact). And often, before reading this book, this felt like more of a curse than a blessing. But it was Salinger's story of the hyper-smart Glass children that first offered me a viable way to come to terms with my own gifts. At one level, there's the advice that her siblings attempt to pass on to Franny, who has reached a kind of spiritual crisis triggered by a realisation of her own giftedness. There's the love, concern and humanity with which they try to help her through that crisis, to help her to make the realisation that her talent doesn't have to be something that separates her from the great majority of people. That there is a sacred responsibility to develop and follow one's talents.

And any hint of elitism, or intellectual snobbery, or some of the other charges that are sometimes thrown against Salinger are rendered so obviously meaningless and beyond the point in the last few pages of this extraordinary love story:

Zooey: "I was furious. The studio audience were all morons, the announcer was a moron, the sponsors were morons, and I just damned well wasn't going to shine my shoes for them, I told Seymour. I said they couldn't see them anyway where we sat. He said to shine them anyway. He said to shine them for the Fat Lady. I didn't know what the hell he was talking about, but he had a very Seymour look on his face, and so I did it. He never did tell me who the Fat Lady was, but I shined my shoes for the Fat Lady every time I ever went on the air again ..."

Franny was standing. "He told me too", she said into the phone. "He told me to be funny for the Fat Lady, once"

Zooey: "I don't care where an actor acts. ... But I'll tell you a terrible secret... There isn't anyone out there who isn't Seymour's Fat Lady. ..... There isn't anyone anywhere that isn't Seymour's Fat Lady. ... I can't talk any more, buddy."

And I can't write any more right now.
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David Thank you (for this review)!

You know that I am a radical Salingerist, so I support this review completely and wholeheartedly!


Michelle David, you quoted my favorite part of the book in your review.


Mariel Oh I love it. This review and this book. I know the just for me reading feeling. I AM an idiot though.


message 4: by Jessica (new)

Jessica I haven't read this book since I was like fourteen and I barely remember it, but for some reason when I got to the end of your review I started to cry.


Jeanette (Ms. Feisty) Awesome! You need to write more boozy reviews.


message 6: by Michelle (last edited Dec 08, 2010 05:19PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Michelle That's funny, Jessica. I've read it multiple times, and when I get to the end of the book I cry.


David I'm very moved by people's reaction and comments. Thanks, guys.

(I can safely say this is one review that will never make it to Amazon)


message 8: by Jessica (new)

Jessica Is this the one where she's freaking out the whole time about Pilgrim's Progress? I feel like I went back at some point to reread it, and I was really distracted by how she had misspelled a bunch of words in her letters. Not like that was a bad thing for Salinger to have her do, it was just unusual, and it made me think a little too much about how it was a book.

I think I just made the connection between David(not Giltinan)'s immense love for Salinger and endless loathing for Wes Anderson. The Royal Tenenbaums is basically like a really crass, twisted, banal perversion of the Glass family. Is that right? Or not right?


message 9: by Lori (new)

Lori Huh Catcher in the Rye didn't do much for the high school girl me, so I never read this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!


Jeanette (Ms. Feisty) David wrote: "(I can safely say this is one review that will never make it to Amazon)"

Go for it! Wake some people up over there.
I'll be looking at this book in a very different way next time I read it, thanks to your review.


message 11: by Brainycat (new)

Brainycat I haven't read this since highschool, when I read the whole Salinger canon. You've made me want to go get them right now and read them all back to back. I think the post-rehab perspective will be eye-opening.


Tatiana I love this book too! I think it's my favorite Salinger novel. The part you quote is awesome. I teared up at the end of your review, too.

Seymour Glass was sort of an early guru of mine for a while. I remember his poem "John Keats, John Keats, John / Please put your scarf on." I can't remember if that was quoted here or in Raise High the Roof Beam, Carpenters.

There are more things that have never left me about this book. Do you remember the tangerine? It was a gift from her uncle or someone, I forget who, trying to fix Frannie's anguish with it. I just loved that. For me metaphorical tangerines are indeed precious gifts, like when my cat always seems to know when I'm sad and come to comfort me. For me they are effective salves for a grieving soul, those tangerines. Of course it's not the gift itself that does the magic but the feeling that prompts it; the empathy, the sympathetic sorrow, and the wish to do something even when there's clearly nothing that can be done.

Since I've read this book all those many times long ago, I've grown up and healed my own tortured soul, but now it's my son who's in Frannie's place, and all my tangerines are to no avail. =( How does one learn to see a tangerine for what it is and be glad of it? I don't know how to show how.

Another thing wonderful about this story is that their mom suggested that the real problem was likely improper diet; all the cheeseburgers Frannie had been eating at college. Zooey makes fun of that idea, but what's really great is that during the course of solving my own life-anguish, I came to realize that it's due (the sort of paralyzing depression that makes it impossible to get out of bed or bathe) more than anything else to bad diet, bad sleeping habits, no exercise, not enough sunshine, and physical simple things like that. It gets assigned to life trauma, to the problem of pain, the problem of evil, and other philosophical ideas, but what fixes it is those 4 pillars: sunshine, exercise, diet, sleep. I look back and think how funny it is that the fat Irish rose mother was actually speaking sound wisdom with her imprecations against cheeseburgers, but of course nobody listened. =)

Maybe I'll give my son this book as a tangerine.

Ah, I wrote a whole review as a comment, so now I'll go post it as my review, too, I suppose. Please forgive the double post in your update feed, friends.


Joshua Nomen-Mutatio Jessica wrote: "I think I just made the connection between David(not Giltinan)'s immense love for Salinger and endless loathing for Wes Anderson. The Royal Tenenbaums is basically like a really crass, twisted, banal perversion of the Glass family. Is that right? Or not right?"

I think that's right. A curious thing is that quality was (maybe still is?) more or less the draw for me to Wes Anderson's flicks -- unconsciously at first -- but it didn't take me too long to make the connection between characters like Max Fischer or the Tenenbaum children and the conscious allusion/tribute to or the unconscious yielding to the influence of Salinger's work. But I ultimately agree that Salinger's characters are more substantive, leaving Anderson's to sometimes seem like caricatures of them. But not necessarily in a negative way, if that makes any sense at all.


David There's so much that I love in the book that I didn't even touch on in my review, for instance the part where Zooey humorously but seriously upbraids Franny for not recognizing the consecrated nature of her mother's chicken soup. The love with which Salinger describes all his protagonists, even those who are schmucks (even Franny's obnoxious boyfriend is drawn with love IMO, but then I've never bought into the view that Holden, or JDS, really hates or looks down on all the "phonies" in Catcher, he just sees them very clearly in a way that adolescents do at a certain stage of the game).

It's also interesting, and I think important (at least from Salinger's point of view) the way that he ultimately signals Franny's final passage through her crisis. At the end of the first section, she is seen silently mouthing the Jesus prayer. Near the end of the second story Salinger has Zooey engage in a pretty strong repudiation of her taking refuge in the prayer, which he views as an excuse for not engaging with the real world:

Z: "I'm not (undermining your Jesus prayer), God damn it. All I am is against why and how and where you're using it. I'd like to be convinced ... that you're not using it as a substitute for doing whatever the hell your duty is in life, or just your daily duty."
After further arguing that F has not made sufficient effort to understand the Jesus she is ostensibly praying to, he makes that sublime, climactic argument for full active engagement in life, with all its mess and difficulty, rather than a kind of religious experience essentially based on detachment:

" don't you know who the Fat Lady really is? Ah, buddy. Ah, buddy. It's Christ Himself. It's Christ Himself, buddy. "
For joy, apparently, it was all Franny could do to hold the phone, even with both hands.

And then, the beautiful final sentence, where Salinger again uses sleep (just as he does in the sublime "For Esme: with Love and Squalor") as an indication of a soul at peace:

"For some minutes, before she fell into a deep, dreamless sleep, she just lay quiet, smiling at the ceiling".

Ah, buddy....


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Now I want to read this, again. I just got it back after lending it to someone. I forgot about the tangerines.


message 16: by Gail (new) - rated it 4 stars

Gail RE: 15: You discuss my favorite part of the book. I also especially appreciate the description of Mrs. Seymour in her housecoat/bathrobe of many pockets.

My God, your review took me back 40 years! You really should publish this. Booze and all.


Stephen M Interesting review.... I did love this book, but it wasn't enough for me. I was left hoping for a lot more development in the story and characters.


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