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Milkman by Anna Burns
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This book won the Man Booker Prize in 2018. Its fame comes from the distinctive 'Voice of Middle Sister.' So it’s a 'voice' book that makes me think of others: the Scottish brogue of Swing Hammer Swing by Jeff Torrington or The Oldest Living Confederate Widow Tells All by Allan Gurganus.

The book has thousands of reviews on GR so I’ll go easy on the summary. You’ll probably like it - or you won’t. There is a dichotomy in the reviews with mostly 4’s and 5’s but many 1’s and 2’s and a lot of DNFs.

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The 'Voice': this isn’t a quote but a list of vocabulary to give an example: “Ach aye yeah, middle sister, wee sisters, my maybe-boyfriend, his maybe-girlfriend, renouncers, the opposite religion, over-the-water, over the border, this side of the road, that side of the road, it’s not wee buns, ach aye no…�

Here’s an example of the voice from a passage where her mother talks to her about her deceased father. “She meant depressions, for da had had them: big, massive, scudding, whooping, black-cloud, infectious, crow, raven, jackdaw, coffin-upon-coffin, catacomb-upon-catacomb, skeletons-upon-skulls-upon-bones crawling along the ground to the grave type of depressions.�

There is very little back-and-forth dialog, but passages of conversation are included in the one paragraph per page structure.

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The story is all centered on the euphemistically called 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland especially from the late 1960s through 1988. The author was born in 1962, so she lived in Belfast during most of this time and was ten at the time of peak violence, 1972. More than 3,500 people were killed in the violence from shootings and bombings, or shot by British soldiers or by paramilitary groups on each side � Catholic and Protestant � her 'opposite religions.' This is a huge number of deaths for a city the size of, say, Toledo, Ohio or Plymouth, UK.

Every family in the story is touched by the violence in some way, and in those days, Catholics had large families. In the main character’s family, she has had a brother shot and a brother-in-law killed by a car bomb. Another brother is on the run because he is wanted for violence by the police. An older sister can never return because she married someone of the 'opposite religion' and went to live in England.

Daily life is shaped by the conflict. Her maybe-boyfriend is in trouble for holding on to a British-made car part. There are ‘our shops� and ‘their shops,� the right kind of butter, the TV shows you can and can’t watch (James Bond movies are out) and the right and wrong kind of tea. There are forbidden first names for boys (no Clive, Wilfred, Norman, Keith, Edgar, Clifford or a dozen others).

Paramilitary guys on each side hold kangaroo courts to keep their people in line. You don’t call the police or an ambulance � that gets you notice from ‘the authorities. It’s likely they won’t come anyway for fear of an ambush. There are constant camera clicks as authorities take pictures from behind trees and in parked cars.

Middle Sister is odd and stands out. That's a mistake in that environment. She jogs and she reads while she walks. She attracts the attention of a paramilitary guy known as the Milkman, who stalks her. She’s 18 and her mother has been after her since she turned 16 to ‘do the proper thing� and get married and start having kids.

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There’s good writing:

“No one has ever come across a cat apologizing and if a cat did, it would be patently obvious it was not being sincere.�

“I opened my mouth, not sure, to say something � or maybe just to have it hang open.�

I liked it but I gave it a 4, rather than a 5. It was quite good but it did seem to drag out a bit.

Top photo:IRA men going to plant a bomb, 1987, from belfasttelegraph.co.uk
A bomb as late as 1998 killed 29 people. From irishtimes.com
Photo of the author from economist.com

[Edited 3/31/22 and 9/8/23]
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Reading Progress

March 24, 2019 – Started Reading
March 28, 2019 – Finished Reading
March 30, 2019 – Shelved
March 30, 2019 – Shelved as: irish-authors
March 30, 2019 – Shelved as: northern-ireland
September 8, 2023 – Shelved as: violence
September 8, 2023 – Shelved as: urban-violence
September 8, 2023 – Shelved as: urban-warfare

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Anni Lovely review. I loved the book too.


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Jim Fonseca Michael wrote: "Nice review! Agreed that the novel dragged on a bit for such a short narrative, but I really enjoyed this."

Thanks Michael, yes a good book. I kept thinking how much "extra work" it must be to write a novel in a particular voice.


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Jim Fonseca Anni wrote: "Lovely review. I loved the book too."

Thanks Anni, I'm glad that you liked the review and the book


Barbara Like you I loved the convoluted naming in this book. It really is the heart of the story and says so much about Northern Ireland. Despite many reviews I get so much from continuing to read them. Yours adds to this conversation and illuminates new corners.


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Jim Fonseca Barbara wrote: "Like you I loved the convoluted naming in this book. It really is the heart of the story and says so much about Northern Ireland. Despite many reviews I get so much from continuing to read them. Yo..."

Thanks Barbara. One of the things I liked about it is that it gives a really good sense of what it was like on a day-by-day basis to live in that situation at that time. Scary and unpleasant certainly.


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Teresa Nice review Jim. Don't know if I'll read it. I grew up in Southern Ireland at this time and it's all you heard about or saw in the papers. Enough for me I think.


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Jim Fonseca Teresa wrote: "Nice review Jim. Don't know if I'll read it. I grew up in Southern Ireland at this time and it's all you heard about or saw in the papers. Enough for me I think."

Thanks Teresa. I can see it might be back bad memories. I see that the border between Ireland and No. Ire. is back in the news almost daily now due to complications with Brexit.


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Jim Fonseca ||Swaroop|| wrote: "Wonderful, Jim!"

Thank you Swaroop!


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Teresa Jim wrote: "Teresa wrote: "Nice review Jim. Don't know if I'll read it. I grew up in Southern Ireland at this time and it's all you heard about or saw in the papers. Enough for me I think."

Thanks Teresa. I c..."


Yes Jim. It's a right mess. Sometimes it feels like we're going backwards in the world. There's talk now that we may even have to have permits or passports to go into Northern Ireland if the border returns.


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Jim Fonseca Teresa wrote: "Jim wrote: "Teresa wrote: "Nice review Jim. Don't know if I'll read it. I grew up in Southern Ireland at this time and it's all you heard about or saw in the papers. Enough for me I think."

Thanks..."

Yes, it will be interesting to see what happens - maybe we won't know for a year or two


message 11: by Libby (new)

Libby Excellent review Jim! You've made me want to read it and as always the photos you include add to the emotional atmosphere of your review.


message 12: by Jim (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jim Fonseca Libby wrote: "Excellent review Jim! You've made me want to read it and as always the photos you include add to the emotional atmosphere of your review."

Thank you Libby. If you do read it, I certainly hope you like it!


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Steve Excellence all around, Jim--your examples, your insights, and the context you give for it. I'm sure much has been made of the timeliness with Brexit nearly upon us and no border solution in sight.


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Jim Fonseca Steve wrote: "Excellence all around, Jim--your examples, your insights, and the context you give for it. I'm sure much has been made of the timeliness with Brexit nearly upon us and no border solution in sight."

Thanks for your comments Steve. Brexit ..... I'll guess we'll see


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Ivonne Rovira I adore this review!


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Jim Fonseca Ivonne wrote: "I adore this review!"

Well thank you Ivonne, I appreciate your comment!


George I finished reading this book a couple of days ago. I enjoyed reading your review. It helped me appreciate the novel even more. An intense, dense rewarding read.


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Jim Fonseca George wrote: "I finished reading this book a couple of days ago. I enjoyed reading your review. It helped me appreciate the novel even more. An intense, dense rewarding read."

Thank George. I thought it was a good book to read in the sense that I felt it gave me a feeling for what it was like to live there during that violent time.


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Glenda Great review Jim. I just added this to my list. Sometime in 2020 will be the quickest I can get to it, but I am looking forward to it.


message 20: by Jim (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jim Fonseca Glenda wrote: "Great review Jim. I just added this to my list. Sometime in 2020 will be the quickest I can get to it, but I am looking forward to it."

Thanks Glenda, I hope you like it too when you read it


Donna Davis Great review, Jim...photos even! I am about halfway through this on audio book, but after reading your review, I may want to see it in print also.


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Jim Fonseca Donna wrote: "Great review, Jim...photos even! I am about halfway through this on audio book, but after reading your review, I may want to see it in print also."

Thanks Donna, I am glad you liked the review and the pictures! That's interesting about an audio book - I wonder how the reader handles what I assume would be a strong accent.


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Mbgirl Ty!! Best thorough review on here� very much appreciate the photos as well. HNY


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Mbgirl And I agree� in the end, it dragggggged. Lack of personal pronouns began to get very annoying!!


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Jim Fonseca Mbgirl wrote: "And I agree� in the end, it dragggggged. Lack of personal pronouns began to get very annoying!!"

Thanks Mb, I'm glad you liked the review and the photos!


Bookish Ally Read this last year and loved it. What a writer. Thank you for your review. We lived in England at the time and my father would go up there on trips, didn’t learn until just before his death he was doing intelligence work. Her ability to convey the atmosphere ~ wow.


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Mbgirl Agreed, Bookish ally. Stunningly clever in the way she conveyed the precise temperature, how taut and how mad it all was.. paranoia on steroids


Heather This book is less about the composition and use of pronouns but more of creating the atmosphere of the time. I listened on audio version and recommend if you don’t know the accent of nuances of the geographical area. The silences, the nods, the anticipation, fake neutrality and paranoia are all part of telling the story of the times. Excellent book.


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Jim Fonseca Bookish Ally wrote: "Read this last year and loved it. What a writer. Thank you for your review. We lived in England at the time and my father would go up there on trips, didn’t learn until just before his death he was..."
Yes, it's a good story with a distinctive voice. I had the opportunity to visit Belfast once just for a couple of days.


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Jim Fonseca Heather wrote: "This book is less about the composition and use of pronouns but more of creating the atmosphere of the time. I listened on audio version and recommend if you don’t know the accent of nuances of the..."

It would be interesting to hear this book on audio and listen to how they handle the accents.


message 31: by Will (new) - rated it 5 stars

Will Ansbacher Great observations on a unique story Jim


message 32: by Jim (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jim Fonseca Will wrote: "Great observations on a unique story Jim"

Thanks Will, yes I thought it was quite good


message 33: by Kath (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kath B Good review Jim. I read this last year after a recommendation from my niece and thought it was a very powerful and shocking book. So true to its time.


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Jim Fonseca Kath wrote: "Good review Jim. I read this last year after a recommendation from my niece and thought it was a very powerful and shocking book. So true to its time."

Thanks Kath, yes, very good I thought. A hard time for a young girl to grow up in


James Thomas Very balanced review. This one I loved! All five stars for me


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Jim Fonseca James wrote: "Very balanced review. This one I loved! All five stars for me"

Yes a very good story and good writing


Emily M Great review! This gets all the stars from me! Wasn’t Milkman a Catholic paramilitary though?


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Jim Fonseca Emily wrote: "Great review! This gets all the stars from me! Wasn’t Milkman a Catholic paramilitary though?"

Thanks Emily and thanks for catching that error. I changed it.


message 39: by Paula (new)

Paula The best book I read in 2019. It is still very fresh in my memory.


message 40: by Zain (new)

Zain A very fascinating review, Jim!


message 41: by Jim (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jim Fonseca Zain wrote: "A very fascinating review, Jim!"

Thanks Zain!


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Jim Fonseca Paula wrote: "The best book I read in 2019. It is still very fresh in my memory."
You make a good point Paula. Although I read it quite a few years ago now, it has stuck with me. I'm surprised at times when I buy a book at a library discard sale and start to read it, I realize 'Wait a minute, I've already read this!' That wouldn't happen with Milkman.


message 43: by Erin (new) - rated it 5 stars

Erin Great review, Jim! I loved this one as well and found it very unique.


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Jim Fonseca Erin wrote: "Great review, Jim! I loved this one as well and found it very unique."
Thanks Erin, I really enjoyed it too


Kofeina Very good review. This book wasnt easy but I think this style and language is amazing and prize worthy.


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