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I and Thou by Martin Buber
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Ich-Du2 (See also "Ich-Du")
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From Wikiboobia, the free encyclopedia:

Ich-Du2 is the lesser known sequel to Ich-Du.

In it, Boober was forced to qualify many of the concepts he had explored in the abstract in Ich-Du.

Relationship
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Ich-Du2 ("I-Thou-Two" or "I-You-Two") is a relationship that stresses the mutual, holistic existence of one being and two sub-beings or aspects of one being (most typically, boobs).

It is a concrete encounter, because these beings and sub-beings meet one another in their authentic existence, without any qualification or objectification of one another. (Boober later realised there was more objectification occurring than he originally thought, though it occurred only in one direction.)

Imagination and Ideas
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Imagination and ideas play a role in this relation. (Professor Murray Jay Siskind later explored the role of the male imagination with respect to the two sub-beings in his seminal work, "A Bra Full of Expectations".)

Infinity and Universality
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In an I-Thou-Two encounter, infinity and universality are made actual (rather than being merely concepts).

Infinity is the expectation of the male being, and universality describes the universal appeal (at least, to males) of the two sub-beings.

Composition and Content
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Boober stressed that an Ich-Du relationship lacks any composition (e.g. structure) and communicates no content (e.g. information).

In contrast, an Ich-Du-Two relationship is all composition (e.g. complementarity and structure, sometimes supported by an uplifting bra) and communicates content (e.g. information in the form of the implication of maternity, sustenance, reassurance and comfort).

Experience as Event
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Unlike an Ich-Du event, an Ich-Du-Two experience can be proven to happen as an event, e.g. it can be measured, in particular in bra size, scoping with hands or symbolically by emoticon, e.g.:

((((0))))((((0))))

Boober concluded that it is even more intrinsically real and perceivable than an Ich-Du event.

Examples
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A variety of examples are used to illustrate Ich-Du-Two relationships in daily life � a man and the two breasts of a woman, a man and the two legs of a woman, a man and the two eyes of a woman, a man and the two buttocks of a woman, a man and his own two balls (Professor Siskind questions whether the latter example is actually an example of "Ich-mich").

Description
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Common English words used to describe the Ich-Du-Two relationship include fondle, grope and scratch.

Influences
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It is believed that Boober's work inspired the name of the Hollywood firm of entertainment attorneys established by Russ Meyer's son, Manny Meyer, "C. A. Tit, Fondle, Grope and Run".

In 1983, the singer Bono from the Irish band, U2, holed up with David Bowie's copy of "Ich-Du2" in a hotel in Montreux while on tour and refused to come out of his suite until he had finished it.

U2 subsequently released a string of four albums, all with the letter "u" in the title.

The Unforgettable Fire (1984)
The Joshua Tree (1987)
Rattle and Hum (1988)
Achtung Baby (1991)

The song "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" (off "The Joshua Tree") was originally based on a lyric "I'm searching for an 'I' to match my 'Thou'".

Further Reading
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Professor Murray Jay Siskind, "A Bra Full of Expectations", 1989

Professor Murray Jay Siskind, Review of "Gods of the Jungle Planet", 2012

http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...

References
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1. Professor Murray Jay Siskind, "Martin Boober's Ich-Du2: A Storm in a D-Cup", 2012

External Links
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* Simona Halep. Breast size 34DD (21 pics)

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message 1: by Manny (last edited Apr 02, 2012 01:47PM) (new)

Manny If you want to take over the theology column in The Sun, I would say the job is yours for the asking. In fact I'm surprised Rupert Murdoch hasn't already mailed you. He's definitely starting to lose his edge.


message 2: by Ian (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ian "Marvin" Graye I would only be interested in a merger: "The Sun and I".


message 3: by Ian (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ian "Marvin" Graye Have you done any wiki format reviews?


message 4: by Stephen M (new)

Stephen M Sorry Ian, I'm sure there's a lot of clever, nuanced witticisms here but without knowing the context of this work, I'm utterly frazzled. I was really thrown off by the Murray Jay Siskind thing too. Another Ian alter ego I presume? Noisely inspired.


message 5: by Ian (last edited Apr 03, 2012 03:53PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ian "Marvin" Graye Sorry, Steve, it's just a very undergraduate attempt at postgraduate uber-boober humour that started on the Gods thread and then got threaded through the white noise generator.


message 6: by Paul (new)

Paul Bryant I'm already regretting voting for this.


message 7: by Manny (new)

Manny Don't beat yourself up too much, Paul... at least you managed not to vote for my review of the book on classification of Lie groups.


message 8: by Ian (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ian "Marvin" Graye Paul wrote: "I'm already regretting voting for this."

Excuse the French, but je ne regret sein.


message 9: by Paul (new)

Paul Bryant re missing votes : my backlog of GR updates stretches back before Xmas.


message 10: by Ian (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ian "Marvin" Graye We should go tit for tat until we both catch up.


message 11: by Traveller (new)

Traveller Paul wrote: "I'm already regretting voting for this."

You could always undo a vote when you realize you've committed a booby.


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