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Watership Down by Richard  Adams
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Initially, I was quite intent on giving this story 3 stars, until:
1. the ending! I'm a sucker for endings like these! I liked it so much that I had to rewind to listen to the first couple of chapters again;
2. this story, based on Richard Adams's explanation in his "Author's Note", is "...not an allegory, or parable, but simply a story about rabbits, made up in the car." Glad I heard this first, because I, like so many other readers, would probably have been looking for a deeper meaning (no, it's NOT a story about communism or Christianity!);
3. to me, this story is a little reminiscent of The Lord of the Rings trilogy - an adventurous journey, filled with heroes and villains, triumphs and tragedies, epic battles, storytelling, and enduring loyalty to the end;
4. Richard Adams's explanation that various characters were based on people he knew, or in Fiver's case, a mythological priestess, was enlightening. How cool to be immortalized in this way!; and,
5. I'm glad I listened to the audiobook rather than reading the print copy. Not only was it quicker this way, but I appreciated the pronunciation of some names and invented words (e.g. hrududu), and the accents provided for some characters (not only British, but Scottish, Irish, Norwegian and Italian as well!)

So. Why not 5 stars?
1. This story took waaay too long to tell! I enjoy descriptive writing, and although quite poetic, this story was too drawn-out to my liking.
2. The misogyny portrayed by these rabbits was infuriating! The does were considered useful only for procreation and were quite dispensable; whereas the bucks were the braver and more knowledgeable sex. Please!

Because of all the above-mentioned reasons, I would recommend this as a read-aloud for middle-grade students and older, with discussion, of course. Overall, I'm glad I didn't abandon this story (and I was tempted to, a few times), or I would have missed the wonderful ending!

P.S. Thanks, Dennis, for lighting the firecracker!
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Julie G This is probably a good one to "listen" to!


Debbie W. Julie wrote: "This is probably a good one to "listen" to!"

I agree! I think if I had to "read" this one, it would be a struggle!


Julie G It's a great book! I've read it three times already!


H (no longer expecting notifications) Balikov Twice through for me. I am waiting until my granddaughters are older to read it again (with them).


Debbie W. Julie wrote: "It's a great book! I've read it three times already!"

Julie, after hearing the ending, I may even listen to this one again some day, just for the sake of catching things I might have missed the first time.


Debbie W. HBalikov wrote: "Twice through for me. I am waiting until my granddaughters are older to read it again (with them)."

I agree that waiting until your granddaughters are older to read it out loud to them is the way to go. That way, grandpa can stop and discuss with the girls any questions they may have, or parts of the story you want to point out to them. I would like to hear their opinions!


Deacon Tom F I loved thiis book. I read during a semester in college.


Debbie W. Deacon Tom wrote: "I loved thiis book. I read during a semester in college."

A ŷ friend was surprised that I never read it yet, so here it is!


Julie G I'm with Deacon Tom. I've read it three times now. I wish I could remember if I read it to my oldest son, but I can't remember. My 12-year-old has watched the recent series of it on Netflix and she has proclaimed it "surprisingly dark!"


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Jenna ❤ ❀  ❤ Glad you enjoyed this so much, Debbie, and the ending was worth sticking with it. I tried it once and hated it.... but only a few pages.

The accents would have been fun to hear.... and the misogyny not so much! Terrific review, Debbie!


Debbie W. Julie wrote: "I'm with Deacon Tom. I've read it three times now. I wish I could remember if I read it to my oldest son, but I can't remember. My 12-year-old has watched the recent series of it on Netflix and she..."

Although I've never watched a show about this story, I can understand why your daughter would think that!


Debbie W. Jenna wrote: "Glad you enjoyed this so much, Debbie, and the ending was worth sticking with it. I tried it once and hated it.... but only a few pages.

The accents would have been fun to hear.... and the misogy..."


Oh, Jenna! There were many a time I was ready to give up on it and swore it would get, at best, 3 stars from me; however, as it approached the ending, I got more invested with the story.


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Kat My daughter still talks about when we watched this when she was young. As Julie said in her comment, it is quite dark! Very nice review, Debbie.


Debbie W. Kat wrote: "My daughter still talks about when we watched this when she was young. As Julie said in her comment, it is quite dark! Very nice review, Debbie."

Thank you, Kat! I would imagine watching rabbits savagely attacking other rabbits could come off as a little disturbing!


Kathleen Nice review, Debbie. I remember reading this book years ago.


message 16: by Debbie (last edited Feb 22, 2021 10:06AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Debbie W. Kathleen wrote: "Nice review, Debbie. I remember reading this book years ago."

Thanks, Kathleen! Somehow, I never had the urge to read this one until another GR friend "admonished" me for not having it on my "Read" list! Haha!


Dennis I'm glad you enjoyed it! However, I have to comment on your review and take issue with a couple of points. First, misogyny: this was written in the 70's, in the traditional style where the men go out to fight and the women stay home to clean, cook and take care of the kids. Any book has to be taken into the context of its time or you'd have to discard all the classics as well, where women were confined to silly chatter and looking for a suitable sire for their progeny. You wouldn't necessarily want an update, like Peter Jackson did for "The Hobbit", injecting a female character as a market ploy in the interests of satisfying some concept of political correctness. Second, now that I've mentioned "The Hobbit", this reminds me of the young people who look at The Lord of the Rings and say, "Wow, that's a lot of pages! I'll just watch the films again." I'm not an audiobook fan because I like to savor the words, go over them again, and I can't see myself glued to "rewind". For me, a long book is a journey taken slow and enjoyed at my own pace, not the pace of the other reader who has no time to dawdle. Accents may be necessary in audiobooks to distinguish characters but I kind of look the voices in my own head, drawing out the characters without any help. I saw the Watership Down film from the 70's and didn't like it much because it wasn't what I'd imagined when I read the book, it seemed "light" and I don't think I'd enjoy and audiobook version, either, pushing me ahead. You said it was quicker this way; in this you'd be in agreement with my students! Third, there's a lot of LOTR in this, just as in some Stephen King books with epic battles against evil, and all of these can go back to King Arthur and even further to the classic/epic heroes such as Beowulf and Hercules. Classic theme, never gets old... (Maybe that's the next step for the Marvel Universe, a rabbit!) I think if you had read it on paper, you might have liked it more - expedient is not always better - but that's only an opinion. I'm just glad you liked it!


Brenda ~The Sisters~Book Witch Great review, Debbie!


message 19: by Debbie (last edited Feb 22, 2021 10:42AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Debbie W. Dennis wrote: "I'm glad you enjoyed it! However, I have to comment on your review and take issue with a couple of points. First, misogyny: this was written in the 70's, in the traditional style where the men go o..."

Sorry that you had issues with my review, Dennis. To be honest, I really waffled between giving this one 3 or 4 stars. I totally understand why some people love it, yet many did not. Books are subjective, and just because it's a "classic", doesn't mean a reader has to look past its author's thought processes.
I would never expect "classics" to be rewritten for political correctness. If I recall correctly, Tolkien did have a couple female characters in the LOTR trilogy (published in 1954!) that were pretty bad-ass! I just wonder what message Adams sent to his daughters about females when he invented this story for them? I was a young girl in the '70s, and my dad never insinuated to me and my sister that we were expected to cook, clean and have babies when we grew up. Having the rabbits get females for their new warren, I get it; I just think the comments made about their usefulness were cringe-worthy at best. Because of this, I believe that if someone were to read this story to youngsters, discussion would be important.
I prefer print books, but because of a towering WTR pile and failing eyesight, audiobooks have come in very handy for me. I've read my own print copies of The Hobbit, or There and Back Again and the LOTR, and not once did I think, "Get on with it!" I enjoy descriptive writing, but Adams's endless descriptions of every wildflower, leaf, etc., well, it was over the top for me, print copy or no.
I've noticed, after writing my review, that several people wrote similar reviews; therefore, I stand by my thoughts. I had a print copy of this book in my classroom, but I never had to urge to read it, so thank you for encouraging me to do so!


Debbie W. Brenda - Traveling Sisters Book Reviews wrote: "Great review, Debbie!"

Thanks, Brenda! This one was tough to write!


Dennis Hmmm, not issues, exactly... the book is centered in a 70's mentality and I think it tended to ignore women rather than denigrate or integrate them. (Like "The Hobbit".) I understand your view on audio/print but I think some books benefit from print. Similar to films in a cinema vs a telephone. The content is the same but the experience is different. I also think this is true for reading it at distinct points in their lives; you may have had a different feeling for the book reading it the first time 45 years back and I might have felt differently now.


Debbie W. Dennis wrote: "Hmmm, not issues, exactly... the book is centered in a 70's mentality and I think it tended to ignore women rather than denigrate or integrate them. (Like "The Hobbit".) I understand your view on a..."

"...but I think some books benefit from print." I agree wholeheartedly on this point, as I have had to abandon some audiobooks to read the print versions instead, and I'm glad that I did so. Like I said, books are subjective, even to the same person over a period of time! Books assigned as a reading assignment would most likely get a different response from someone 20 years later, as well as books read and loved during younger years may arouse the thought, "What was I thinking?" several years later. I also feel the same way as watching a movie based on a novel. There are very few movies that I thought were just as good as the book. Usually, I'm quite disappointed with the results. To each his own!


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Jim C One of my favorites ever. To those who are thinking about listening to it. Be careful where you listen to it. I decided to listen to it in work last year. At the ending I had to run into the bathroom because my eyes were so watery and I was afraid one of my coworkers was going to ask me what was wrong.


Debbie W. Jim wrote: "One of my favorites ever. To those who are thinking about listening to it. Be careful where you listen to it. I decided to listen to it in work last year. At the ending I had to run into the bathro..."

Right? That is some ending! Luckily, I was sitting alone on my couch when it hit me!


Nancy (playing catch-up) I still remember this one from my youth.


Debbie W. Nancy wrote: "I still remember this one from my youth."

I gather you enjoyed it, Nancy?


Nancy (playing catch-up) Yes, but I always wonder if I would enjoy books as much now as I did back then. It’s been a long time.


Debbie W. Nancy wrote: "Yes, but I always wonder if I would enjoy books as much now as I did back then. It’s been a long time."

True, and I guess many people would feel the opposite; that is, disliked a story in their youth but enjoyed it later in life. Either way, it's funny how our tastes change over the years, even with books we've already read!


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Annette Fantastic review Debbie. Glad that the ending bumped up your rating :)


Debbie W. Annette wrote: "Fantastic review Debbie. Glad that the ending bumped up your rating :)"

Thanks, Annette! I've noticed this with a couple of books I've read so far this year - the ending really makes the difference! I just wish the rest of the story was the same for me.


message 31: by Ron (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ron Terrific review Debbie. I'm also one who looks for deeper meaning in a story. Even though Adams said it was not written that way, I still find things, like perseverance. Overall, it's just a fine story.


Debbie W. Ron wrote: "Terrific review Debbie. I'm also one who looks for deeper meaning in a story. Even though Adams said it was not written that way, I still find things, like perseverance. Overall, it's just a fine s..."

Thank you, Ron! I agree! If I were to focus on a moral intelligence while reading this to children, perseverance would be ideal!


message 33: by Libby (new)

Libby Great review, Debbie! I agree with your point about the does being dispensable and the bucks being brave and knowledgeable. Time for those does to burn their bras :-)


Debbie W. Libby wrote: "Great review, Debbie! I agree with your point about the does being dispensable and the bucks being brave and knowledgeable. Time for those does to burn their bras :-)"

Hahahaha! Still, it is a classic, and I would hope that anyone reading this to youngsters has the sense to discuss these delicate parts!


message 35: by Jodi (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jodi Sadly, misogyny is present in most children's books written prior to the 21st century. Despite that, I've always been especially fond of Watership Down (and, really, all books about bunnies!)😊 Great review, Debbie!


Debbie W. Jodi wrote: "Sadly, misogyny is present in most children's books written prior to the 21st century. Despite that, I've always been especially fond of Watership Down (and, really, all books about bunnies!)😊 Grea..."

Thanks, Jodi! Luckily, writing is changing.


Tamar...playing hooky for a few hours today Fantastic review Debbie! you make me want to read this again. All I remember is that it was about rabbits in search of a new warren and plenty of danger...I'm not even sure if that's what it was about because I read it over forty years ago. I need to look for the audio and read again!


message 38: by Tamar...playing hooky for a few hours today (last edited Feb 10, 2022 05:35AM) (new)

Tamar...playing hooky for a few hours today BTW do middle grade students and older listen to read-alouds?


Debbie W. Tamar...playing hooky for a few hours today wrote: "BTW do middle grade students and older
listen
to read-alouds?"


Oh, for sure, Tamar! It's all in the telling! I remember as a Grade 9 student, my classmates and I being so enthralled with a teacher's read aloud, that we all jumped, including the teacher, when the bell rang!


Debbie W. Tamar...playing hooky for a few hours today wrote: "Fantastic review Debbie! you make me want to read this again. All I remember is that it was about rabbits in search of a new warren and plenty of danger...I'm not even sure if that's what it was ab..."

Thanks, Tamar! Yep! That's what it was about in a nutshell! There's a lot of storytelling within the plot as well!


Michelle F Fantastic review, Debbie! This was one of my all time favourites growing up, so it’s got all the nostalgic feels for me. Even loving it as much as I did, I do remember there were parts I’d skim on rereads. It’s been a long time since I last picked it up.


Debbie W. Michelle F wrote: "Fantastic review, Debbie! This was one of my all time favourites growing up, so it’s got all the nostalgic feels for me. Even loving it as much as I did, I do remember there were parts I’d skim on ..."

Thanks, Michelle! Had a lot of up and down emotions while reading this one!


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One of my all-time favorites! Great review, Debbie!


Debbie W. J.K. wrote: "One of my all-time favorites! Great review, Debbie!"

Thanks, J.K.! I see by your review that you really enjoyed the book and movie!


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Thibault Busschots Haven't yet read this classic. But I've heard a lot of good thing about it. Shame it has some misogyny. Still, good review, Debbie.


Debbie W. Thibault wrote: "Haven't yet read this classic. But I've heard a lot of good thing about it. Shame it has some misogyny. Still, good review, Debbie."

It is better overall than some of the classics I've read (e.g. The Swiss Family Robinson).
I just really questioned the attitude towards females in this book considering the author was telling this story to his daughters! It made me wonder - what did he secretly think of them?


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Beata Lovely review, Debbie :))


Debbie W. Beata wrote: "Lovely review, Debbie :))"

Thanks, Beata!


Lori  Keeton This book is a favorite. It’s definitely not a bedtime story for children. Glad to see this review pop up today. I’d love to reread someday.


Debbie W. Lori wrote: "This book is a favorite. It’s definitely not a bedtime story for children. Glad to see this review pop up today. I’d love to reread someday."

Thanks for your comments, Lori! Funny how this author told this story to his young daughters while driving in the car and how they encouraged him to write it down!


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