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Disgrace by J.M. Coetzee
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it was amazing

�  This book made me want to read Twilight. Yes, Twilight: perfectly perfect young people falling in love and never growing old. God, I hope that’s what’s in store for me there. I need an antidote to Disgrace.
�  It affected me more than I thought it could, in ways I hadn’t imagined possible. At page ten I would have readily given it five stars; the writing is superb. Halfway through I’d have given it four. Excellent, but slightly annoying. At the moment I finished it, shouting “WHAT?? What the hell kind of ending is THAT???� and wondering if I was going into shock, I’d have demanded stars back for ruining my life. A little distance was needed before I could consider it rationally again.

�  The word disgrace is what struck me with nearly every page. Coetzee’s writing is like that. Tight. There’s no escaping what he wants you to see. It’s not outrageously blatant, but it’s none too subtle either. It’s good. So good you might be tempted to revel in it. Do not. This is not for the faint-hearted. Run. Read something easy, something happy. Anything. If you stay Coetzee will turn that word, disgrace, in your mind a hundred different ways. I’m no stranger to the word. I have been a disgrace, been disgraced, disgraced myself and others. Seriously. I thought I was immune to it.
�  The main character, David Lurie, is disgraced. Big deal. He disgraces a student. Yeah, I’m familiar with that. She’ll live. He is a disgrace. Yes, clearly. David Lurie is entering the disgrace of growing old. That’s where Coetzee has me.
�  I can’t find it in me to despise Lurie. He’s a Lothario and possibly worse (“She does not own herself. Beauty does not own itself.�), but I don’t have to live with him. Then there’s the sharp intelligence with too little empathy or emotion to make it truly sing. The bare objectiveness. He claims to have lost ‘the lyrical� within himself, but it’s doubtful he ever had it. He’s a pretender. I’m amused by the fact that he, a professor of language, begins the affair that causes his public fall from grace by quoting Shakespeare’s first sonnet. The words apply as much to himself as to anyone. But self-delusion is my own stock-in-trade. I can’t condemn him for that. I don’t love him either. I feel as dispassionate as Lurie himself. The disgrace of the dying though - the 'without grace' � that younger generations foist upon them. That they’re made to feel as intruders in life, burdensome. This is where Coetzee hooks me. And he reels me in. Reels me in until I find myself suffocating in a world I want no part of. A world of shame, dishonor, humiliation, degradation. Disgrace. That of a man, a father, a daughter, a woman, an unborn child. Now make those plural. Add the disgraces of South Africa, of humanity, of animals. Yes, animals. I suspected Coetzee would sneak in a little commentary on that. He has a reputation. I did not expect to be so affected by it. I, a confirmed carnivore, did not expect to lie awake at night considering vegetarianism. Coetzee brings that passionate quote at the beginning of this paragraph back to hit me square in the face near the end though and � once again � Disgrace.

�  So five stars, but would I recommend it? I’m still not sure. Read it if you dare. Coetzee is brilliant.

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message 1: by Kim (new) - rated it 3 stars

Kim Grrrr...


message 2: by J (new) - rated it 5 stars

J Sorry, Kim.


message 3: by J (new) - rated it 5 stars

J !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


message 4: by Kim (new) - rated it 3 stars

Kim Elaborate, please....


message 5: by J (new) - rated it 5 stars

J The dog, Kim. The dog.


Michelle AWESOME review, J.!

This book stayed with me for a loooong time after I finished reading it. Loved it.


message 7: by Kim (new) - rated it 3 stars

Kim Fine... I liked the dog

How can you NOT hate Lurie? Ugh.


message 8: by [deleted user] (new)

Good review J.
And.
Nice indentations...


Matt Excellent review. That final scene was very moving in an off-kiltered sort of way. I closed the book and just had to sit there for 20 min. or so.


message 10: by [deleted user] (new)

J.

WAY TO MOTHERFUCKING INDENT, SISTAH!!!

And a great review to indent also!


message 11: by Michelle (last edited Mar 13, 2009 11:30AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Michelle J., how'd you indent? I gotta know.

Again: Loved your review! Wow!


message 12: by [deleted user] (last edited Mar 13, 2009 11:34AM) (new)

The indenting instructions were posted by Richard on one of Jon Bruenning's reviews. I can't remember which. I definitely know that there's an ampersand involved somewhere... but then again there always is, isn't there?

Edit* This one for Blindness...

http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...


message 13: by [deleted user] (new)

It was my Blindness review...


Michelle � Thanks, guys. It's not as bad as putting in hyperlinks, which I don't even bother to do these days.


Jessica Bravo, J!!
well done I say!


message 16: by Richard (new)

Richard Quick update of the indent instructions (originally at this review):

ŷ ignores any blanks beyond the first one. So trick it by inserting "HTML entities" that have a similar effect.

Specifically, type out your essay as usual with double line-feeds. When you're done, go back and paste the following in before each paragraph:

   

Those ampersand thingies are instructions to insert an em-space, a blank the width of an upper case "M". Adjust the number of blanks and em-spaces to taste. [Glad I could help!:]


message 17: by Lori (new)

Lori OK. I've been eyeing this book for the past few months. And now that J has given it 5 stars, it's moved to the top of my list. Thanks J! Cause anyone who is a Dunnett fan, I trust implicitly when it comes to books. :)



message 18: by J (new) - rated it 5 stars

J Aaah, Dunnett... I remember when reading was FUN!




Sunflower Great review. Said it better than I could (and did).


message 20: by J (new) - rated it 5 stars

J You were more succinct. Thanks, Sunflower!


message 21: by Ben (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ben I wish I could vote for this again, J; awesome review.

(And I LOVED the end.)


message 22: by J (new) - rated it 5 stars

J Thanks, Ben. But. You did not love the end. You only think you loved the end. Although (or because) you read those last few pages while leaning against the kitchen counter and flung the book across the room shouting "What the hell???" then fell blubbering into the sink where you could have stayed and cried for days... Although (or because) you did that, you realized that Coetzee is so brilliant he makes your heart hurt and you either love him or hate him or both. That's why you think you liked the end. Because Coetzee is an evil, truth-telling, heart-hurting, vegetarian genius and so the ending must be good. But the dog, Ben! THE DOG!!!


message 23: by Ben (last edited May 06, 2010 05:14AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ben You're right: he is a truth-telling genius; an honest one. I love dark endings if they say something -- the ending to 1984 is a favorite, for example. But of course you're also right that I didn't like what happened to the dog. That would make me a sicko or something. I finished this Monday night (technically Tuesday morning -- because, like you, I have sleep problems), and I'm still thinking heavily about it; it's still very much ingrained in the background in my everyday out-and-abouts, as well as my conscience thoughts from time to time. Amazing.


Carolyn I'm with you on needing an antidote but Twilight ? =)


message 25: by J (new) - rated it 5 stars

J Ha. Yes, well then I actually read Twilight! It made me mourn literature a little.


Carolyn No idea where you're from or whether you've been to South Africa, but I am in Grahamstown (where much of the story takes place) on a short term contract. Since arriving in South Africa, I have been struggling to wrap my head around the racial tensions here. Though, I'm glad I didn't read it before I had some experience under my belt, I think Coetzee conveys the white south african's experience well. I can't stop mulling his story over in my head.

BUT, this said, I came across a copy of True Blood at the bookstore today and seriously considered picking one up. Changed my mind. 'A Long Walk to Freedom' is next. NOT the antidote I need, but required reading I guess.


Robyn Plemmons Thank you for expressing what I couldn't. I am still reeling from the ending.


Maria the ending ... also elicited a "WHAT?!?!" from me ... I forgave Lurie all the rest, but not that. never that. I cried and could only stop by reminding myself it was just story. yet, every day, everywhere in the world, .....


message 29: by é (new) - rated it 3 stars

é Heaton Thank you for a wonderful review. I feel very much the same about this book and had reservations about picking up another Coetzee novel because if the engrained "tightness" add you say. But after reading your review, I will read him more. But I will wait a little bit first.


message 30: by Eman (new) - rated it 5 stars

Eman E. Comparing this book to Twilight is outrageous.


message 31: by Rory (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rory Bouffe Couldn't agree more- "The word disgrace is what struck me with nearly every page." In that way he really is a genius. If an alien asked me what the opposite of Grace feels like I'd tell it to read this! But that is why you and I have scored on the opposite ends of the scale... If I wanted to feel this, I'd sever my spine and spend the rest of my life crawling on my belly and eating scraps from an abatoir, not read a book. Great review though!


message 32: by J (new) - rated it 5 stars

J Thank you.


message 33: by J (new) - rated it 5 stars

J Rory, I like to think (after my initial anger at the ending) that I learned something from this book. More of a mindfulness of how we treat one another. Great writing has the power to change us. But yes, I understand reading for pure enjoyment as well. That's what I meant about turning to a book with young love and a predictable plot (Sorry, Twilight fans) after this one. I needed comforting!


Lesley Bradford Totally boring. Booker prize! He must have been the only entrant. Characters that come and go....


Julian Neuer Great review. I felt a lot like you did when I read it.


Julian Neuer "I can’t find it in me to despise Lurie."

Neither can I.


message 37: by Yvonne (new)

Yvonne Aburrow Amazing review. Very well written.


message 38: by Donna (new)

Donna Carter I had added it to my reading list but tell me, do you always write reviews this compelling? Wow. Your review is so gripping that I want to read more of what YOU have to say.


message 39: by hamid (new)

hamid mazuji so, i'm like, one third into it. should i not finish it ? i could go to something else


Attila I thought it was a brilliant ending , it was all about him letting go of his limping ego ., at the same time it was I felt a metaphor for a limping apartheid torn South Africa moves into a new ,truly integrated phase


Viola S. you nailed it


message 42: by Matt (new) - rated it 5 stars

Matt Michaud spoiler!!!!

I saw the dog as the sacrificial lamb for his former life as a Casanova. The phrase "pretty girls" happens about three times in the last couple pages, hammering home his obsession lest we forgot (how could we?). I noticed as well that he said that he carried the disabled dog "like a lamb", as in sacrificial lamb.

One interesting thing for me, in retrospect, was how well he treated the bodies of the dead dogs. I think what Coetzee was saying there was that even though he is past the point of being truly "sexually viable", he can't let go. Also, he refuses to name the disabled dog, perhaps because he doesn't want to accept it as a concrete reality. One last thing! The disabled dog was affectionate despite the fact that Laurie didn't want to receive that affection. This could be connected to how Lurie was the only one enjoying the sex between him and Melanie.

I enjoyed your review and your point about Twilight being an antidote gave me a good chuckle.


message 43: by Olu (new) - rated it 5 stars

Olu Great review. I found it so disturbing that I couldn't finish it the first time. I picked it up again after a week and have read it over and over since.


Heidi Your review is spot on. I was reading this in midst of the Kavenaugh hearings and hoping that there would be some redemption. David seeking forgiveness from the parents rather than the student was also disturbing. The book did not provide a better way of moving forward other than complacency. Now that is a disgrace indeed.


Amalsree Sarasan Brilliant review. Although I read this book many years ago, something dark I just went through made me think of him, Coetzee, just how absolutely skilled his writing is, how it closes its grip so close around you before you know it, makes you see what has to be seen and then proceeds to slowly extract the life out of you. This is probably one of the most disturbing books I have read. Hence the younger me knocked a star off the rating. Spooked, I guess. I now know that life does get dark at times. Sometimes more darker that the past days, when you naively think that the darkest days are behind you. I appreciate his skill. Don’t know what exactly reminded me of this book but I will always remember how I felt reading this.


Sherri Loved your review. I was going to write my own and post it on Facebook, but why bother? I am curious if you think this novel was worthy of the Nobel in literature which it won 4 years after publishing.


Patricia Paige Cronin Thank you for this review which I found after reading the book and which made me both laugh and cry. The damn book made me cry and I wasn’t even expecting to because I really could give a fig for the main character. I agree with you about the ending. WHAT?!! And then I’m sobbing. I’m an animal lover, which is probably why it hit me so hard, but I do agree with you that people should only read this if they dare. Coetzee is brilliant.


Ishani The second paragraph of your review is so relatable. If I had to rate the book at the beginning, I wouldn’t have hesitated to give it 5 stars but as I proceeded with it, the likeliness of that kept on reducing. What was the ending even supposed to mean? My brain shouted NO while I read the last few paragraphs.


Izabela Karbowiak I am in shock, having 2 dogs of my own, I could not read without putting this book aside for a few days. It will take me time to clear my head after finishing.


Guilherme Gallina Damn, perfect review.


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