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Branded (Fall of Angels, #1)
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bookshelves: reviewed, series-i-will-not-continue, young-adult, fluff-fest, series, read-in-2013, genre-paranormal
Feb 25, 2013
bookshelves: reviewed, series-i-will-not-continue, young-adult, fluff-fest, series, read-in-2013, genre-paranormal
First of all: negative stars, a shelf created especially for this book, because it left such a bad taste in my mouth that the only stars I can possibly give are those below zero.
As you might have guessed, Branded made me angry, and therefore it will be impossible to review this without spoilers. However, many of the plot is so obvious and unoriginal that the spoilers aren't that substantial. Also, some explicit language will be used, because sometimes there is just no better way to express your opinion. Note as well that this is a rant disguised as a review, so it's long. You have been warned.
I considered several times to just DNF this one, but a part of me hoped it would get better. It did not.
I originally had this one classified as "high hopes", but after re-reading the blurb, I honestly have no idea what gave me that impression. I blame the cover because angst, love triangle, and insta-love were already pretty much announced. It's probably my soft spot for (fallen) angels retellings, although the only decent ones I have read this far are Daughter of Smoke and Bone and Angelfall.
Edit: I can't believe I forgot Unearthly. How did that happen? I blame you, Branded.
The basic set-up
Jessica is a 20-year-old runaway who is a housekeeper for an elderly couple. She lives next door to Sally Thomas, a woman who has been the victim of spousal abuse, and spends her days shopping groceries for the two of them. When she's not playing the good Samaritan, she's a general recluse who only sleeps one night every four days or so. In her dreams, she's a proxy for a recently deceased person who is now being judged by angels and almost always branded, the sign that s/he's condemned to an afterlife in hell. She has the scars to prove it. They include the branded X in her neck, which always throbs after her nightly adventures and then there is something with her having protruding shoulder wings. Some random flashbacks break up the narrative even more and then one night, yes middle of the night, a guy bursts in and takes up residence in the house she's a caretaker for. Turns out he's the owners' out-of-this-world hotgorgeousdelicious grandson and the owners have died. He's completely random, travelling the world to seem interesting and stuff. When he conveniently needs to go meet with his lawyer for a week, because something is wrong with the will - let me think, maybe the fact that the grandparents left loads of money to a girl that doesn't even work for them now, but can still live in the house because logic, convenience and vicinity - we're introduced to the second love interest who has dark features and, of course, a British accent. Legitimately evil that one is. It's practically a given with him being European and all.
On to the part that gave me so much rage that I almost started kindle-throwing. It's quite sad really, because my kindle was a Christmas present and I wanted to inaugurate it with an angel story, hoping it would be decent and enjoyable but lol no, the universe doesn't allow some reading relaxation when you're in the middle of exams because obviously you just need more stress and exasperation in those times. Anyway, the rage-inducing factor.
As I already said in my very objective synopsis, Jessica's neighbour used to be married to an abusive piece of shit. Jessica tells us so repeatedly, but the causality within these passages is just off. At times, it is used as a ploy to illustrate how good of a person Jessica is for helping out Sally, who is, by the way, so traumatised that she can't leave the house and lives in perpetual fear of human contact. I'm sorry, being nice to a victim of abuse shouldn't be used as character development, it's fucking basic human decency. Worse, however is the passage that introduces Sally's abuse and its conclusion. The conclusion is that the husband was reported - good -, had to pay - even better - and that's why Sally Thomas is so disgustingly rich that she can afford to just throw one hundred bills at Jessica. WHUT? It gets better. Before we know how Jessica earns an income, this is given as the explanation why she can go shopping for groceries every single chapter before da boyz show up.
And this is where I drop dead because I choked on my disgust.
EXCUSE ME? You know what, I'm willing to chalk this fucking disturbing plotline up to a case of bad causality, in the sense of "Milton wrote Paradise Lost. His wife died. He wrote Paradise Regained." or my personal version "I used to believe in God. My sister was born. I lost my faith.", but let me just add that it is things like these that prove why self-publishing doesn't work for everyone. I'm not saying self-publishing should be banned, because I'm actually very much in favour of new ways for people getting out the stories they feel the need to tell, but this wasn't the only reason Branded could have benefited from editing. More on that later. The bottom line here is that you don't exploit a trauma such as domestic abuse to justify why a character has money, and in extension, how the MC can provide without a decent income. (Again it wasn't yet stated that Jessica made her money by housesitting). The only thing such a connection makes me think is "how convenient" and that is the absolute last opinion I want to have when it comes to abuse.
The rest of it was just plain annoying. I have never read Twilight, but seen and read enough to more or less come to the conclusion that Jessica is a Bella Swan rewrite. Also, absolutely nothing happens, except for pretty creepy and disturbing stuff that I'm sure was not meant to be read that way. It had potential with the "living on borrowed time" arc, but the only thing that was used for was to say who was to blame for Jessica's nightmares. Surprisingly, it was everyone but her. I'm not saying this needed a thorough philosophical examination of what time means to the human being to have merit, but this was just ridiculous.
So Jessica. This girl is one big chunk of interior monologue and it never ends. She has no sympathy whatsoever. Take Emily for example. She considers Jessica to be her friend and confides in her. So guess what Jessica's reaction is when Emily tells her that her stepfather used to abuse her and that that is why she has run away from home? Jessica actually gets angry because Emily doesn't want to tell her how she "made the dreams stop". It's also so fucking annoying that Emily's "condemnation" was supposed to be a suspenseful revelation, while it was so very obvious what the one thing that guarantees you a front row seat to eternal condemnation is. I don't even know my Bible that well and it was still easy to guess. Hint: it's not blasphemy, because apparently angels are free agents in this world, which is something I can get behind, but it's used to such ridiculous ends that it all feels so derivative.
There's not even an instinct that tells Jessica to for one moment think of someone besides herself. This also shows in her dealing with Sally. So Alex creepily shows up and follows Jessica around, because apparently the twenty-something gorgeous guy doesn't have a social life. Jessica has a movie night with Sally, which she conveniently forgot because damn Alex and his delicious exterior. He then tags along and both of them think it will be no problem for an unfamiliar man to show up on the doorstep of a person who is so traumatised she can't even do her own shopping. No probs, because blonde-and-blue-eyed Alex is such a good guy that Sally instantly trusts him and her status as the local guy-o-meter will be used when the second love interest shows up. Indeed, it's fucking genius to put an abused woman in that role.
The love interests are not all that great either. It's obvious Alex is supposed to be every good girl's wet dream, but I'm sorry, the moment a boy I barely know bursts into the bathroom when I'm showering, only to ask if I'd like to have dinner with him that evening, I'd pack up my stuff after said shower and run. Not so Jessica, who already knows she will have BIG FEELS for Alex after literally five minutes. Cole is even worse, and his relevance to the story is so nonsensical that the only things you need to know is that he admits that he's been in love with Jessica since the first moment he saw her. Besides the general *yawn* it has been done to death factor, the first time this despicable specimen saw our highly desirable MC was WHEN SHE WAS FIVE (or around that age. I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, but it was young enough to earn you a one-way prison ticket). So yes, in addition to being physically too perfect for this world and constantly having to remind everyone he "speaks in a British accent" and always staring at Jessica, he is a legitimate pedophile. Not gonna lie, that's kind of a turn-on for me.
Moving on. There is absolutely no reason for Jessica to be living in that house after the owners have died. I also find it strange that no one bothered to inform her they are dead, and that Alex thought it was okay to burst in there in the middle of the night and be like "lol yeah, they're dead, but they left me a shitload of money and I'll pay you and we can both live here because I'm the prettiest boy you've ever seen so my plan can't possibly be creepy and I can't be a psychopath." Of course, it's too far-fetched to call ahead with that information but who cares about such details when we need to get the love story going. And that element is - shocking - problematic. When Alex and Jessica lock lips, it's all very orgasmic and pornographic, but they don't go further because they don't know each other that long/well and it's still a bit too serious. I can genuinely respect that. However, when Alex gives her an expensive bracelet or buys her a fucking wedding ring, this is seen as normal behaviour for a new couple. Hey, I know my brain works in weird and mysterious ways, but I've always thought marriage to be a pretty serious ordeal and frankly, if you don't feel you're ready for sex, I don't know how much diamonds will help your personal comfort with the issue.
Finally, I don't like Jessica's relationships with women. First of all, the girl barely gets out and the only time she uses the internet is to look up the people she had to play proxy for the past night. Nevertheless, she regularly mentions that she hears from "women" that boys like this, or don't do that or want you to whatever. I have a hard time identifying who exactly these women are, because Sally Thomas will definitely tell her to just stay the hell away from men. Also, Jessica ran away from home because of her mother, she has no friends and I find it hard to believe she'd just speak to random women she encounters in the grocery store. Somewhere in the story she decides to take a yoga class and she feels it is necessary to repeatedly tell the reader that it's her big outing to society and why that is so. It's annoying.
Then she gets mad at Emily for allegedly not wanting to help her, when the girl obviously has a hard time telling Jessica what she "needs" to know in the first place and I completely understand Emily for wanting to suppress such a trauma, certainly when you know you have eternity to pay for it. Jessica hates her mother because she thought her daughter was crazy and hysterical, which, in a realistic setting, doesn't seem that weird. I don't know Jessica, but if you so desperately wanted to prove to your mother that something is going on, why not show her your scars? You can't use the excuse that you don't want people to think that you're "in some kind of extreme body art", because I think that as a minor you still need parental permission for that, and let me just tell you, with your outlook on life, you need all the help you can get.
Anyway, who needs that when you have a father who is so awesome that he contacts you five years after you've run away from home, telling you that he's always been on your side, while he conveniently dismisses the fact that he never stood up for you or tried to reason with that dictator of a mother of yours. The fact that he tells you just to ignore your mother is even better, because there's nothing more I want from my father than such a show of respect for the women in my family. Oh, he wants you to write him letters and keep in touch? Do it, he obviously deserved it after years of doing nothing and taking the cheap route in blaming your mother for it. Such a nice guy. He would make a perfect family picture with that admiring pedophile you've got living a few doors down. ZOMG I wish I had your life.
I read reviews of the next books and it seems that it gets even worse. And apparently Cole will be redeemed, because if there's one thing we need it's that the creepy and psychotic bad guy will be shown to be inherently good. Obvies ftw. Plus that we get more angst and melodrama and from what I assume, the language will still be riddled with factual errors, typos and unfinished sentences and generally make no sense whatsoever. I mean, when you have a first-person narrator, you can't just go around writing that she "didn't notice the opened window" or something, because the fact that she didn't notice it when it happened, and doesn't have her attention drawn to it at a later moment, means that she can't possibly have any recollection of it. So how is she still able to talk about it?
Because Jessica just fails at life big time, that's why.
Oh and I wish I had enjoyed the privilege of buying this for free, but because I'm an evil European (Branded-standards), this was not the case, and that makes one more reason why I feel justified writing this angry rant. Needless to say, I can't recommend this to anyone, but luckily, most of it is so mind-numbing that I won't be scarred for life by this.
As you might have guessed, Branded made me angry, and therefore it will be impossible to review this without spoilers. However, many of the plot is so obvious and unoriginal that the spoilers aren't that substantial. Also, some explicit language will be used, because sometimes there is just no better way to express your opinion. Note as well that this is a rant disguised as a review, so it's long. You have been warned.
I considered several times to just DNF this one, but a part of me hoped it would get better. It did not.
I originally had this one classified as "high hopes", but after re-reading the blurb, I honestly have no idea what gave me that impression. I blame the cover because angst, love triangle, and insta-love were already pretty much announced. It's probably my soft spot for (fallen) angels retellings, although the only decent ones I have read this far are Daughter of Smoke and Bone and Angelfall.
Edit: I can't believe I forgot Unearthly. How did that happen? I blame you, Branded.
The basic set-up
Jessica is a 20-year-old runaway who is a housekeeper for an elderly couple. She lives next door to Sally Thomas, a woman who has been the victim of spousal abuse, and spends her days shopping groceries for the two of them. When she's not playing the good Samaritan, she's a general recluse who only sleeps one night every four days or so. In her dreams, she's a proxy for a recently deceased person who is now being judged by angels and almost always branded, the sign that s/he's condemned to an afterlife in hell. She has the scars to prove it. They include the branded X in her neck, which always throbs after her nightly adventures and then there is something with her having protruding shoulder wings. Some random flashbacks break up the narrative even more and then one night, yes middle of the night, a guy bursts in and takes up residence in the house she's a caretaker for. Turns out he's the owners' out-of-this-world hotgorgeousdelicious grandson and the owners have died. He's completely random, travelling the world to seem interesting and stuff. When he conveniently needs to go meet with his lawyer for a week, because something is wrong with the will - let me think, maybe the fact that the grandparents left loads of money to a girl that doesn't even work for them now, but can still live in the house because logic, convenience and vicinity - we're introduced to the second love interest who has dark features and, of course, a British accent. Legitimately evil that one is. It's practically a given with him being European and all.
On to the part that gave me so much rage that I almost started kindle-throwing. It's quite sad really, because my kindle was a Christmas present and I wanted to inaugurate it with an angel story, hoping it would be decent and enjoyable but lol no, the universe doesn't allow some reading relaxation when you're in the middle of exams because obviously you just need more stress and exasperation in those times. Anyway, the rage-inducing factor.
As I already said in my very objective synopsis, Jessica's neighbour used to be married to an abusive piece of shit. Jessica tells us so repeatedly, but the causality within these passages is just off. At times, it is used as a ploy to illustrate how good of a person Jessica is for helping out Sally, who is, by the way, so traumatised that she can't leave the house and lives in perpetual fear of human contact. I'm sorry, being nice to a victim of abuse shouldn't be used as character development, it's fucking basic human decency. Worse, however is the passage that introduces Sally's abuse and its conclusion. The conclusion is that the husband was reported - good -, had to pay - even better - and that's why Sally Thomas is so disgustingly rich that she can afford to just throw one hundred bills at Jessica. WHUT? It gets better. Before we know how Jessica earns an income, this is given as the explanation why she can go shopping for groceries every single chapter before da boyz show up.
And this is where I drop dead because I choked on my disgust.
EXCUSE ME? You know what, I'm willing to chalk this fucking disturbing plotline up to a case of bad causality, in the sense of "Milton wrote Paradise Lost. His wife died. He wrote Paradise Regained." or my personal version "I used to believe in God. My sister was born. I lost my faith.", but let me just add that it is things like these that prove why self-publishing doesn't work for everyone. I'm not saying self-publishing should be banned, because I'm actually very much in favour of new ways for people getting out the stories they feel the need to tell, but this wasn't the only reason Branded could have benefited from editing. More on that later. The bottom line here is that you don't exploit a trauma such as domestic abuse to justify why a character has money, and in extension, how the MC can provide without a decent income. (Again it wasn't yet stated that Jessica made her money by housesitting). The only thing such a connection makes me think is "how convenient" and that is the absolute last opinion I want to have when it comes to abuse.
The rest of it was just plain annoying. I have never read Twilight, but seen and read enough to more or less come to the conclusion that Jessica is a Bella Swan rewrite. Also, absolutely nothing happens, except for pretty creepy and disturbing stuff that I'm sure was not meant to be read that way. It had potential with the "living on borrowed time" arc, but the only thing that was used for was to say who was to blame for Jessica's nightmares. Surprisingly, it was everyone but her. I'm not saying this needed a thorough philosophical examination of what time means to the human being to have merit, but this was just ridiculous.
So Jessica. This girl is one big chunk of interior monologue and it never ends. She has no sympathy whatsoever. Take Emily for example. She considers Jessica to be her friend and confides in her. So guess what Jessica's reaction is when Emily tells her that her stepfather used to abuse her and that that is why she has run away from home? Jessica actually gets angry because Emily doesn't want to tell her how she "made the dreams stop". It's also so fucking annoying that Emily's "condemnation" was supposed to be a suspenseful revelation, while it was so very obvious what the one thing that guarantees you a front row seat to eternal condemnation is. I don't even know my Bible that well and it was still easy to guess. Hint: it's not blasphemy, because apparently angels are free agents in this world, which is something I can get behind, but it's used to such ridiculous ends that it all feels so derivative.
There's not even an instinct that tells Jessica to for one moment think of someone besides herself. This also shows in her dealing with Sally. So Alex creepily shows up and follows Jessica around, because apparently the twenty-something gorgeous guy doesn't have a social life. Jessica has a movie night with Sally, which she conveniently forgot because damn Alex and his delicious exterior. He then tags along and both of them think it will be no problem for an unfamiliar man to show up on the doorstep of a person who is so traumatised she can't even do her own shopping. No probs, because blonde-and-blue-eyed Alex is such a good guy that Sally instantly trusts him and her status as the local guy-o-meter will be used when the second love interest shows up. Indeed, it's fucking genius to put an abused woman in that role.
The love interests are not all that great either. It's obvious Alex is supposed to be every good girl's wet dream, but I'm sorry, the moment a boy I barely know bursts into the bathroom when I'm showering, only to ask if I'd like to have dinner with him that evening, I'd pack up my stuff after said shower and run. Not so Jessica, who already knows she will have BIG FEELS for Alex after literally five minutes. Cole is even worse, and his relevance to the story is so nonsensical that the only things you need to know is that he admits that he's been in love with Jessica since the first moment he saw her. Besides the general *yawn* it has been done to death factor, the first time this despicable specimen saw our highly desirable MC was WHEN SHE WAS FIVE (or around that age. I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, but it was young enough to earn you a one-way prison ticket). So yes, in addition to being physically too perfect for this world and constantly having to remind everyone he "speaks in a British accent" and always staring at Jessica, he is a legitimate pedophile. Not gonna lie, that's kind of a turn-on for me.
Moving on. There is absolutely no reason for Jessica to be living in that house after the owners have died. I also find it strange that no one bothered to inform her they are dead, and that Alex thought it was okay to burst in there in the middle of the night and be like "lol yeah, they're dead, but they left me a shitload of money and I'll pay you and we can both live here because I'm the prettiest boy you've ever seen so my plan can't possibly be creepy and I can't be a psychopath." Of course, it's too far-fetched to call ahead with that information but who cares about such details when we need to get the love story going. And that element is - shocking - problematic. When Alex and Jessica lock lips, it's all very orgasmic and pornographic, but they don't go further because they don't know each other that long/well and it's still a bit too serious. I can genuinely respect that. However, when Alex gives her an expensive bracelet or buys her a fucking wedding ring, this is seen as normal behaviour for a new couple. Hey, I know my brain works in weird and mysterious ways, but I've always thought marriage to be a pretty serious ordeal and frankly, if you don't feel you're ready for sex, I don't know how much diamonds will help your personal comfort with the issue.
Finally, I don't like Jessica's relationships with women. First of all, the girl barely gets out and the only time she uses the internet is to look up the people she had to play proxy for the past night. Nevertheless, she regularly mentions that she hears from "women" that boys like this, or don't do that or want you to whatever. I have a hard time identifying who exactly these women are, because Sally Thomas will definitely tell her to just stay the hell away from men. Also, Jessica ran away from home because of her mother, she has no friends and I find it hard to believe she'd just speak to random women she encounters in the grocery store. Somewhere in the story she decides to take a yoga class and she feels it is necessary to repeatedly tell the reader that it's her big outing to society and why that is so. It's annoying.
Then she gets mad at Emily for allegedly not wanting to help her, when the girl obviously has a hard time telling Jessica what she "needs" to know in the first place and I completely understand Emily for wanting to suppress such a trauma, certainly when you know you have eternity to pay for it. Jessica hates her mother because she thought her daughter was crazy and hysterical, which, in a realistic setting, doesn't seem that weird. I don't know Jessica, but if you so desperately wanted to prove to your mother that something is going on, why not show her your scars? You can't use the excuse that you don't want people to think that you're "in some kind of extreme body art", because I think that as a minor you still need parental permission for that, and let me just tell you, with your outlook on life, you need all the help you can get.
Anyway, who needs that when you have a father who is so awesome that he contacts you five years after you've run away from home, telling you that he's always been on your side, while he conveniently dismisses the fact that he never stood up for you or tried to reason with that dictator of a mother of yours. The fact that he tells you just to ignore your mother is even better, because there's nothing more I want from my father than such a show of respect for the women in my family. Oh, he wants you to write him letters and keep in touch? Do it, he obviously deserved it after years of doing nothing and taking the cheap route in blaming your mother for it. Such a nice guy. He would make a perfect family picture with that admiring pedophile you've got living a few doors down. ZOMG I wish I had your life.
I read reviews of the next books and it seems that it gets even worse. And apparently Cole will be redeemed, because if there's one thing we need it's that the creepy and psychotic bad guy will be shown to be inherently good. Obvies ftw. Plus that we get more angst and melodrama and from what I assume, the language will still be riddled with factual errors, typos and unfinished sentences and generally make no sense whatsoever. I mean, when you have a first-person narrator, you can't just go around writing that she "didn't notice the opened window" or something, because the fact that she didn't notice it when it happened, and doesn't have her attention drawn to it at a later moment, means that she can't possibly have any recollection of it. So how is she still able to talk about it?
Because Jessica just fails at life big time, that's why.
Oh and I wish I had enjoyed the privilege of buying this for free, but because I'm an evil European (Branded-standards), this was not the case, and that makes one more reason why I feel justified writing this angry rant. Needless to say, I can't recommend this to anyone, but luckily, most of it is so mind-numbing that I won't be scarred for life by this.
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Reading Progress
February 25, 2013
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Started Reading
February 25, 2013
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February 25, 2013
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7.0%
February 26, 2013
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9.0%
February 26, 2013
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14.0%
February 27, 2013
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27.0%
March 1, 2013
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33.0%
March 2, 2013
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44.0%
March 3, 2013
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50.0%
March 6, 2013
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62.0%
March 7, 2013
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77.0%
March 8, 2013
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Finished Reading
March 23, 2013
– Shelved as:
reviewed
April 10, 2013
– Shelved as:
series-i-will-not-continue
May 10, 2013
– Shelved as:
young-adult
June 2, 2013
– Shelved as:
i-m-scared-but-i-ll-read-it-anyway
June 2, 2013
– Shelved as:
i-m-scared-but-i-ll-read-it-anyway
June 28, 2013
– Shelved as:
fluff-fest
June 29, 2013
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series
January 7, 2014
– Shelved as:
read-in-2013
August 4, 2016
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Thank you! It was one of my first actually, but I had to rework it here and there.

Oh, and lolzville @:
"I used to believe in God. My sister was born. I lost my faith."
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Thanks! Ahahahah she actually gets to hear that one a lot. I thought it was fitting with the context of the book. Yeah, I'd recommend staying light years away from it. It's pretty long but seriously, NOTHING happens.

b)READ TWILIGHT It's not the worst thing in the world. You should see for yourself ;)
c)You have a kindle? What kindle? I'm in the process of chosing a new ebook-reader and am leaning towards pocketbook lux right now. Tell me about it!
d)Props for finishing that 'book'.
f) Hey! Look at the banana-penguin! You deserve it!

e)I don't know how you've managed to write a coherent review. I'd go thermonuclear XD

^ Well it's amazeballs with awesomesauce! And I won't be tricked into reading it, you spared me some trouble, thank you! :D
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En ik neem het terug, Ellis jij bent de tweede die ik tegen kom die (waarschijnlijk) Nederlands verstaat, Cory is de eerste, maar jij bent waarschijnlijk de enige die het spreekt (misschien spreek je frans?)!
Cory zal ik dan vanaf nu altijd in het Nederlands schrijven? :p

Zo grappig dat ik de eerste ben! Ah nee, natuurlijk zie ik dat niet als stalken! Bedoel, ik ben Cory niveau gewoon. :D
Haha, zo vreemd om Nederlands tussen Engels te zien staan. Ik ben van Antwerpen eigenlijk en studeer in Leuven, dus mijn moedertaal is inderdaad Nederlands. Jep, ik spreek ook Frans, maar het is wel zwaar verslechterd sinds ik het niet meer op dagelijkse basis krijg. Ik ben met het idee aan het spelen om meer boeken in het Frans te lezen, maar dan ben ik altijd bang dat ik de helft net zal verstaan en vicieuze cirkel en al. :)
Misschien moeten we het op Nederlands houden voor supergeheime gesprekken.

LOL at the banana-penguin. Did you make it yourself?
I'm not going to read Twilight. I've just read too much about its rape culture and abstinence porn subtext to ever read the story with an open mind.
I have the kindle keyboard and I like it a lot but it's pretty basic I think. It's black and white but you can play music on it (with or without headphones), though the tracks will always be played in the same order. You can skip numbers but it's not ideal. So obviously, you can listen to audiobooks on it, if that's your thing. One of the big plusses is that the battery holds for quite some time.

Hahahahah Cory niveau! En gelukkig!
Ja het is ook erg raar om aldoor in het Engels te schrijven en te lezen en dan opeens in het Nederlands te schrijven! Ik kan bijna niet eens meer in het Nederlands schrijven, ik ben nu heel erg hard aan het nadenken (dus sorry voor de miljoenen spelfouten die er waarschijnlijk in zitten). :p En ja kan ik me voorstellen, ik heb Frans en Duits op de middelbare school gehad, in Frans ben ik totaal niet goed, ik kan echt alleen de basis, maar Duits spreek/lees ik wel redelijk goed, alleen het is inderdaad al zo lang geleden! Toen Cory, Rose en ik Duits gingen praten moest ik echt weer even goed nadenken en dingen opzoeken! En goed idee om Franse boeken te lezen! Anders lees je gewoon boeken in het Frans die je al in het Engels hebt gelezen, zodat je weet waar het overgaat maar wel in het Frans leest?! En langzamerhand gewoon boeken voor het eerst in het Frans lezen?
LOOOOL! Ik zal vanaf nu het Nederlands voor onze supergeheime gesprekken houden!
''Dutch grammar doesn't make sense to anyone.''
^^ True!

I haven't made the penguin myself XD I wasn't sure if I want to post a photo of a banana or a penguin so I typed 'banana penguin' (I'm just fun like that) into google images and BAM! You'd be surprised what's out there! But now I'll totally make one every time I eat. (people are going to hate me :D)
Look! Another one!

I want an e-book reader with an 'inner light' so to speak XD I have a pretty simple, old one, but dictionary at a single touch is tempting. And I'm bothered by Amazon's operations in Europe... It hates us. I swear. So I'm wary of the kindle products.
Dutch grammar might not make much sense, but Dutch sounds AWESOME! (I admit to having a period of time in my life when I just sat and listened to Dutch without any understanding at all).

Omg, the raisins look like little poo drops from the banana-penguin. IT CANNOT BE UNSEEN.
I think what many people like about the Dutch language is that it's so guttural, and of course the rolling "r". Though it really does depend in which dialect your listening to, because there's quite some difference between Dutch and Flemish (which is what I speak).

@Cory, fine, I'm going to the kitchen now *reaching for a hammer*

Anna: Bahaha, your nested spoilers! Yeah, they're pretty strict in the number of languages you need to know in schools here. In secondary school, I had Dutch, French, English, German and Latin and studied Spanish after hours. I know some Italian because my aunt used to live there for a few years but I wouldn't be capable of keeping up an entire conversation fluently. The same goes for Portuguese (if it isn't worse for that).

I've read Twilight too, I was 14 at the time I think, and I have to admit I liked it then, not love but I didn't hate it either. Now I don't really understand why I liked them, but nonetheless I'm still glad I read it, it was one of the first books I read that had supernatural aspects in them, and now i'm hooked to that genre (not twilight :p) especially when I read al the other supernatural books that were out there, and I realized that they were so much better! And I wouldn't re-read Twilight either, just let it be like it is now, because otherwise you probably be sorely disappointed when you read it again! :p
AHAHAHAHA I love the internet! Now every time I eat one I'm totally going to make one too! :D
And to be honest I don't know much about e-readers, mine broke a while ago, so now I'm using my iPad, and that's working great! But here is a site I found, don't know if it helps, but hey I tried right? :p
Wow I'm really surprised, I've heard from a lot of people that they think that Dutch sounds awesome, Like I said to Cory, I think it sound like I have a lawn mower attached to the back of my tongue: GGGGGGGCCCHHHHGCCCCHHGGGGGGGCHHGGGGGGG :p
Flemish sounds much awesomer (<-- totally should be a word), and English and French and Italian too!
@ Ellis: I had to write the introduction to my bachelor paper in a different language than the corpus. So my corpus was in English, but the introduction in Dutch, since I'm not even going to try writing it in French. It seriously took me longer to find the right words for my introduction, plus that I always find things sounds just sillier when you say them in Dutch.
^^ I totally understand that! Sometimes Dutch seems so lacking compared to English! And what was your bachelor paper about? :D
And wow you speak so much languages, SO AWESOME! Cory does too.. Maybe I should do some language courses..

And I'm fine with my failing grades, I've been a student for a while (I've been 17 or 18 while reading twilight), so I don't go all crazy like some people. Mostly it's a minor annoyance.
You can't really hear how your own language sounds (that drives me crazy!). The moment you begin to understand a language, listening to it as a simple set of sounds is impossible. To me Dutch is awesome! Could listen to it for hours!

You know, Nine, I kind of like the sound of Dutch but not the individual words per se. It's just that some dialects can go so "plat" (I really don't know the appropriate word here) and I love that. Mine definitely belongs to those. It's also the reason why I prefer reading in English, because with Dutch there's this hyperawareness of "people don't talk like this", especially in dialogue.
Ha, my paper was about Aurora Leigh and how Elizabeth Barrett Browning uses the different genre elements in that poem to break with conventional gender rules. That was already m first problem: there's no appropriate Dutch translation of the word "gender", which makes it damn hard to pinpoint it as the main theme.

This only happens when it's obvious they don't put in the effort. When I see that someone is genuinely trying I immediately admire them, because it's not always that easy when you're not a native.
It's still a very technical language for me. It often happens that I pause a film or series episode at a random moment just to repeat what they just said so that I can work on sounding more natural. I try to practice as much as possible and I love experimenting with accents.
Final verdict: I like the way it sounds, but maybe that's also because it brings some variation to the constant Dutch or something :D

Ellis, students at my college annoy me beyond words with their 'perfect polish english'. Argh! They're supposed to teach the language in the near future for fuck's sake! And sometimes I get an impression they can barely form sentences. We have phonetics classes to, people just fuck around (the teacher is awesome though)
I absolutely adore different English accents <3 Though my own is all over the place (that's what happens when at school they try to teach you British English but American one is EVERYWHERE).
Oh, and Ellis, your caps locks says 'EVERYONE PURE HERESY' ;)


Italian is also music to my ears, but I have to say I never know if they are happy or mad, (there was this guy on the phone in Italy and he was talking really loudly and it sounded angry to me, and then he began laughing, so I have no idea :p). BTW I heard a lot of Italian in Assassins Creed, there I learned: cazzo and stronzo! :p
@ AnheC: You’re welcome, I’m sorry I couldn’t help you more! And what did you decide? Well like Cory said, every time anyone says Bella, I see Kristen Stewart’s annoying head:
And what do you study? :D And you’re right, you can’t really hear how your language sounds! I find Polish super awesome, but I don’t understand a single thing, it just sounds really cool!
@ Ellis: What do you mean with ‘’plat’�? Plat Nederlands? Of dat de dialecten heel erg naar boven komen? And I prefer reading in English too, because of what you said, but also because I find it more beautiful than Dutch. You can say a lot of things in different ways, and it has these beautiful expressions for things, that we don’t have in Dutch. But I also just like to read books in its original language, because I think a lot gets lost in translation, sentences aren’t just as fluent or vibrant anymore, jokes aren’t that funny, and some words really get lost or replaced because we don’t have a translation for it. The magic gets lost, It doesn’t flow anymore, although that also depends on the writer/translator.
Oooh so cool! I´ve heard about Aurora Leigh, I haven´t read it yet, it´s divided in 9 books right? Ahaha yeah I would say ‘’gender’� = geslacht? But it’s hard, stupid Dutch. :p

Echt plat Nederlands, in de vorm van: "Allez gast, meende gij dees. Kunde u is efkes gedragen misschien." Okay, so maybe not those exact words, but at least with this kind of phonetic spelling I can actually picture someone saying them. Standard Dutch just sounds too polished to be really authentic, in my opinion.
Well, Aurora Leigh. It's something, that one. It's an epic novel poem, which means that it's written in blank verse and indeed subdivided into books, as was the case with the classic epics. I had the Norton Critical Edition, which helped me a lot because it's a very theoretical work. It addresses a lot of social question, but Barrett Browning explicitly wanted it to be her master work, so a lot of it is quite abstract. It's not exactly readable.
And eww, "geslacht" always takes on the physical connotation for me, whereas gender indicates the sociological structures tied to the physical sexes. Nope, we need a word in Dutch!

I probably will go with Pocketbook because it's from European (Ukrainian?) company, so yey. They'll have my support. And unlike kindle offer many more dictionaries and open more formats (you don't have to fuck around like on Onyx where you choose with which program to open a file. SO annoying). Pocketbook seems like a better choice by the minute. And it has a few buttons! I don't want to be read of buttons (don't trust touch screens, they're evil)


LOL, I live in Groningen, and we have there the dialect Gronings, but to be honest I can’t really speak it, I understand it and I know a few words but real Gronings (in het Gronings is het Grunnegs) I can’t. :( Here are YouTube videos for EVERYONE who is interested in hearing it and don’t know how it sounds: & , � So I can’t do this, I can only say words :p And let me know what you think of it? And I always thought I didn’t have an accent, but I’ve been told that I have, or rather they can hear I’m from the North, apparently I make the words longer. :D And I can make it worse, I can talk really ‘’plat’� or ‘’boers’�, but then I’m exaggerating, but mostly I speak ‘’ABN’�, so not authentic Dutch. :p
Well, Aurora Leigh. It's something, that one………It's not exactly readable.
^^ Ooh okay so not something you recommend me to do?
And eww, "geslacht" always takes on the physical connotation for me, whereas gender indicates the sociological structures tied to the physical sexes. Nope, we need a word in Dutch!
^^ Hahhahahaha true and agreed! Any ideas?
@ AnHeC: That’s so awesome, and it is exciting, at least I think so! :p
Okay cool, looks really nice from what I’ve seen on the internet! :D Ahahahahha I kind of like touchscreen, but I have an IPhone and an iPad so I deal with it daily, but I have my days too when I want to throw my phone or Ipad against the wall, lol!
And that's how a rant can turn into a conversation about something good/attractive/fun! (yes, I'm talking about Italians)
^^ I love when that happens! :) This is so much fun! Ahahah Italians can be really hot, but sometimes they are too smooth! And they are pretty small, so most of the time I'm taller. :p
@ Cory: I like the Italian intensity! And I’m not Italian but I’m speaking at loud volumes all the time too. :p I was always the one who got kicked out of classes because of it. And I talk with hand gestures too, maybe I’m secretly Italian!!!! THAT WOULD BE SO AWESOME AND SO MUCH WIN! =D


ABN as in Algemeen Boers Nederlands or Algemeen Belgisch Nederlands? Because the latter would be extremely hilarious. It's funny, because Gronings sounds like a mix of Dutch and Flemish.
I completely sympathise with the accent situation. Apparently I make mine stronger when I'm in Leuven, because everyone is always like "Oh, I don't have to ask where you come from." My brother told me that I did, but I hadn't noticed really. It's a bit annoying, because there are some real accent snobs there and they hate the Antwerp accent. Some of them are fucking assholes about it. I mean, I grew up with that kind of speech as the norm and their accents are just as bad but for some reason they think they're better. The sheer snobbery that goes in their behaviour is astounding.
Well, Aurora Leigh is a good book, but it requires a lot of effort and concentration and it's possible that even then you'll finish and think "WTF did I just read". But it's pretty enlightening on Victorian society.
I'm all out of ideas at this point. The absolute worst would be when people started pronouncing "gender" with the soft "g" of "gevel" or something. That CANNOT happen.

^Hmmm yes.. Well found! I think it also is a mishmash of German and Dutch, and maybe some ''Fries'', but that's also a dialect here in the Netherlands, but for Friesland, and that's next to Groningen (on the left side).
Italian via clonedom ^_^
^HAhaha YES that must be it!
AND YES Joe Manganiello is SUPER HOT and tall! (view spoiler)
And the PERFECT Barrons! <3

Hahahahaha, No I wish that it did though! It stands for ‘’Algemeen beschaafd Nederlands’�, yeah I know that sounds snobby too. :p Waarom beschaafd? Alsof dat andere niet beschaafd is? Weird. But It’s an easy way to say standard Dutch. And it sounds like a mix of Dutch and Flemish? That’s cool! :D
YES! Some people are really snobby assholes about the accents, and I really don’t get it.. Sorry ik ga even verder in het Nederlands als je het niet erg vindt, want het is echt lastig om Nederlands en Engels door elkaar te praten. Als ik met mensen praat die Gronings spreken ga ik automatisch ook wat platter praten en gebruik ik Groningse woorden. Maar het is echt super irritant als mensen gaan zeuren over accenten, en net wat je zegt, jij kan er toch ook niks aan doen dat jij zo praat, zo ben je opgegroeid! Gelukkig heb ik dat dus niet zo, maar ik erger me er wel dood aan als mensen er over gaan zeuren. Mensen hebben 1 keer tegen een vriendin van mij (die praat behoorlijk plat) gezegd: wow we kunnen wel horen dat jij uit het noorden komt. Jij praat zo boers, ben je ook een boerinnetje? Ik vond dat echt beledigend, ik werd daarom ook een beetje boos op die dude. :p En ik vind het juist leuk om verschillende accenten te horen! En blijf gewoon lekker met een accent praten, ik vind het cool! Ughh sommige mensen kunnen zo irritant zijn!
Hmm okay, well I’ll see, I love history, and sometimes I really like to read that sort of stuff, so maybe I’ll give it a try. :D
The absolute worst would be when people started pronouncing "gender" with the soft "g" of "gevel" or something. That CANNOT happen.
Ahahahahhaha yes that would be pretty awful, it would sound just as bad as ''geslacht''. And every time I would hear it that way, I would start laughing and be at the same time a bit creeped out. :p
@ Cory : Yes, I’m sorry.. :( ‘’Manganiello was born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and raised in Mt. Lebanon, a suburb south of the city. His parents are Susan (née Brachanow), and Charles John Manganiello. His father's family is Italian, from Naples and Messina (Sicily), while his mother is of Austrian and Armenian descent.’�

