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Before the Coffee Gets Cold by Toshikazu Kawaguchi
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it was ok
bookshelves: overrated, china-japan-asia, time-travel, death-grief-bereavement-mortality

I spotted this when I was browsing in a bookshop. I love time travel paradoxes, the premise and setting of this sounded intriguing, and I was charmed by the cover (shards of aqua foil, plus a cat that isn't in the book). How shallow I am. This is my penance.

What would you do?

Who wouldn’t want to travel in time, if there was no danger? The main problem would be choosing when and where to go. The rules in this scenario are so limiting, choice is easy. Plus, there’s a sort of reverse butterfly effect: whatever you see or say, won’t change the present. That sounds safe - but also pointless: more like watching a film reel than actually travelling.

It’s set in a 140-year old Japanese basement café in the present day. No windows, so �A permanent sepia hue stained the café interior�. It has three counter seats, and three two-people tables, three clocks, and three staff.

Each of the four sections focus on a particular situation that prompts a woman to to see loved-ones they cannot otherwise see, or get answers to important questions. There's a backdrop of recurring characters and a continuous, chronological narrative.

The willing suspension of disbelief

It’s especially important to suppress incredulity in time travel stories, which often don’t (and can’t) explain the mechanics. The key word is “willing�. There was too much I disliked for me to suspend the large amounts of disbelief required. I read the whole book, even though I didn’t enjoy it, in the vain hope I’d be won over. The saving grace is that it’s quite short.


Image: John Tenniel’s illustration of the White Rabbit, worrying about being late.

The rules

� You must return “before the coffee gets cold�, otherwise (view spoiler).
� You must sit in a specific seat and not move from it.
� That seat is occupied most of the time (view spoiler).
� You must not challenge the person sitting in the time travel seat (view spoiler).
� You can only meet someone who has been to the café.
� You can only use the time travel seat once.
� You can travel to the past or the future, but the rules make the future more problematic, so few people do it.

The title rule had promise, but the others made it less interesting. I felt as if some had been added later to make the story work - but they failed.

I now wonder if it would work better without the time travel element! Just tell the four poignant stories of semi-connected women (ideally in a more positive way), where they find peace from information via more conventional means, such as a cache of old letters or a long-lost relative.

The flaws in the rules

Not plot spoilers, but I want to remember what I disliked, without highlighting those features to people who enjoyed the book. I don’t think it's possible to tell a time travel story without any contradictions or unanswered questions, but this has far too many, imo.
(view spoiler)

The flaws in the book

Not plot spoilers, but I want to remember what I disliked, without highlighting those features to people who enjoyed the book.
(view spoiler)

Other things are just odd. Had I enjoyed the book, I might have thought them charming quirks.
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Reading Progress

April 9, 2023 – Started Reading
April 10, 2023 – Shelved
April 10, 2023 – Finished Reading
April 11, 2023 –
page 213
100.0% "Silly, slightly sexist, illogical, with no redeeming features.
Not sure why this is so popular, but at least it's a very quick read - yay, I thought of a redeeming feature!

Review to come."
April 16, 2023 – Shelved as: overrated
April 16, 2023 – Shelved as: china-japan-asia
April 16, 2023 – Shelved as: time-travel
April 16, 2023 – Shelved as: death-grief-bereavement-mortality

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message 1: by Renee (new)

Renee Roberts Glad you posted this, Cecily. It reminded me to remove it from my "Want to Read" list. I read the sequel, Tales from the Cafe and didn't like it at all, but I never went back and edited this one out of my books!


Cecily Renee wrote: "Glad you posted this, Cecily. It reminded me to remove it from my "Want to Read" list. I read the sequel, Tales from the Cafe and didn't like it..."

I think there's more than one sequel, and presume they're pretty similar, so I won't be reading more either. Each to their own.


message 3: by Elaine (new)

Elaine Not at all popular in my book club. Partly due to the translation using very stilted language.


Cecily Elaine wrote: "Not at all popular in my book club. Partly due to the translation using very stilted language."

The stilted language is certainly an issue (in addition to some very silly ideas that don't stack up), but it's hard to know whether that's the fault of the translator or a reflection of the sort of plain Japanese prose that can be sparse, poetic, and beautiful.

I'll say more in a review, soon.


message 5: by áDz (new)

áDz Gunnarsson Interesting review Cecily. It is the first in a series? I think I’ll just avoid reading any of it.


Isabella Barbutti I liked this one, but got progressively annoyed as I read the other two sequels. I think most of what bothered me is part of the Japanese culture, and I can see why the realisations the protagonists have would make more sense for them than they did for me. I married into a Japanese family and I think the book helped me see some of thought processes/cultural aspects I was missing just by interacting with them.


message 7: by Paulo (new) - added it

Paulo Fumiko had been Goro’s girlfriend for three years, but page 46 says they first met only two years ago, and no, it’s nothing to do with time travel. Just sloppy editing.

Well done Cecily. I missed that discrepancy completely.


Cecily áDz wrote: "Interesting review Cecily. It is the first in a series? I think I’ll just avoid reading any of it."

There are more. I won't be reading them, and although I have quite a few GR friends who enjoyed this, I wouldn't recommend it.


Kushagri Brilliant review, Cecily! I completely agree with the flaws in the rules and the flaws in the books! Yeah exactly, why not take coffee without milk? 🤔
Your review has me definitely contemplating my extra half star haha
While reading, I first hoped that the plot may win me over. But when I saw that the rules of it kind of dampen the effect, I wished that the prose might be redeeming. Though I realized quite soon that that writing wasn’t that great either. So not a winning experience overall.


Cecily Isabella wrote: "... I married into a Japanese family and I think the book helped me see some of thought processes/cultural aspects I was missing just by interacting with them."

That's really interesting. Thanks, Isabella.


Cecily Paulo wrote: "Fumiko had been Goro’s girlfriend for three years, but page 46 says they first met only two years ago, and no, it’s nothing to do with time travel. Just sloppy editing.

Well done Cecily. I missed that discrepancy completely."


It's perhaps the oddest one to have reached publication, so it amused more than it annoyed me.


Cecily Kushagri wrote: "Brilliant review, Cecily! I completely agree with the flaws...
While reading, I first hoped that the plot may win me over. But when I saw that the rules of it kind of dampen the effect, I wished that the prose might be redeeming. Though I realized quite soon that that writing wasn’t that great either....."


LOL, and yes, I know what you mean.


message 13: by Bianca (Away) (last edited Apr 16, 2023 05:48PM) (new)

Bianca (Away) Thanks for reinforcing that it wasn't me it was the book. I tried to listen to it, but I quickly notice the plot holes. I do not do well with plot holes, so I abandoned it pretty early.


message 14: by Apatt (new)

Apatt Great review Mrs! Good time travel stories are quote for the rare I think. I love it when the paradoxes are explored cleverly. "All You Zombies" by Heinlein is my favorite short story (no zombies in it). The Man Who Folded Himself is my favorite time traveling novel.


Petra nearly in Melbourne It does sound like an interesting concept, but not well-executed.


message 16: by Cecily (last edited Apr 17, 2023 01:05AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Cecily Bianca wrote: "Thanks for reinforcing that it wasn't me it was the book. I tried to listen to it, but I quickly notice the plot holes..."

Happy to help. I've only skimmed friends' ratings, which were mostly positive. When I start reading their reviews, I'll be interested to see what they liked.


message 17: by Cecily (last edited Apr 17, 2023 05:12AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Cecily Apatt wrote: "Great review Mrs! Good time travel stories are quote for the rare I think. I love it when the paradoxes are explored cleverly....."

I'll have to check those out. I haven't read much Heinlein and nothing by Gerrold. Thanks, Apatt.


Cecily Petra: Excited bf is coming to visit for a week wrote: "It does sound like an interesting concept, but not well-executed."

Time travel is an inherently interesting concept, and I understand the desire to put a quirky twist on it, but that is not sufficient to create a well-executed story.


Petra nearly in Melbourne I wish I could travel to next Monday and see what happens and then if I like it, stay the week, otherwise move on, backwards or forwards.


message 20: by Lisa (new) - rated it 3 stars

Lisa Vegan Cecily, Yes! Yes! Yes! Thank you for this review. It's great. I think I was too generous with this book. I read it for my real world book club and thinking about discussing books sometimes makes them more interesting to me. I agree with you about almost everything and you thought of some more important things. You would have made my book club meeting even better had you joined us.


Philip Lisa wrote: "Cecily, Yes! Yes! Yes! Thank you for this review. It's great. I think I was too generous with this book. I read it for my real world book club and thinking about discussing books sometimes makes th..."

And how. Cecily, I'll have to add your review to my review.* I agree with Lisa, though: whenever I read a book with others, the rating inevitably skews up.

*I didn't have the time or inclination to write out all the things I found wrong with it, and disliked about it. I'm glad you and so many others have.


message 22: by Lisa (new) - rated it 3 stars

Lisa Vegan Philip wrote: "whenever I read a book with others, the rating inevitably skews up."

Philip. Yes, discussing books often makes them even more interesting.


Cecily Petra: Excited bf is coming to visit for a week wrote: "I wish I could travel to next Monday and see what happens and then if I like it, stay the week, otherwise move on, backwards or forwards."

Ah, a sneak peek at the near future. That could be very useful in lots of circumstances. If you could do it as often as you liked, to whenever you liked, it wouldn't make much of a story, but it could definitely the basis for one...


Cecily Lisa wrote: "Cecily, Yes! Yes! Yes! Thank you for this review. It's great. I think I was too generous with this book... You would have made my book club meeting even better had you joined us."

Your review is very fair, and it reflects your wider experience, including the book club discussion. I often find it easier and more worthwhile to discuss and review books I have strong opinions, good or bad. Thanks, Lisa, and I hope most of your book club reads are more aligned with your taste.


message 25: by Laysee (new)

Laysee Cecily, I am charmed by the cover too. The premise of this time travel experience with its odd rules sounds interesting. I think I will also have trouble having to suspend too much disbelief. I like the illustration of the White Rabbit included in your review. Pity this story with a clever title did not win you over.


Cecily Philip wrote: "... I agree with Lisa, though: whenever I read a book with others, the rating inevitably skews up...."

Which is both a pro and a con of writing a review before discussing the book, which is what I usually do.


Cecily Laysee wrote: "Cecily, I am charmed by the cover too..."

It's even nicer in real life: the dark patterns of the wallpaper are foil, so it catches the light nicely, without being garish and glittery.

Laysee wrote: "... Pity this story with a clever title did not win you over"

Unfortunately my current book isn't my taste either, so I'll have to pick my next one carefully.


message 28: by Lisa (new) - rated it 3 stars

Lisa Vegan Cecily wrote: "Your review is very fair, and it reflects your wider experience, including the book club discussion. I often find it easier and more worthwhile to discuss and review books I have strong opinions, good or bad. Thanks, Lisa, and I hope most of your book club reads are more aligned with your taste. ."

Thanks. They've been a mix but I am grateful That I've read many great books I might not have read otherwise.


message 29: by Nigel (new)

Nigel The "charmed by the cover" bit is so sensible to me. While I do have other criteria (!!) I often find that covers speak to me. I confess that sometimes I can't have listened properly 😂 but there's nothing wrong with that and following instincts for me these days - take care


Cecily Nigel wrote: "The "charmed by the cover" bit is so sensible to me. While I do have other criteria (!!) I often find that covers speak to me...."

Conversely, I put off reading Elena Ferrante, in part because the covers looked like something from Mills & Boon or Harlequin Romance. I should rise above my gut reaction to cover art.


message 31: by Nigel (new)

Nigel Cecily wrote: "Nigel wrote: "The "charmed by the cover" bit is so sensible to me. While I do have other criteria (!!) I often find that covers speak to me...."

Conversely, I put off reading [author:Elena Ferrant..."


That I also get! Maybe there should be a saying - something like "never judge a book".. 😂


Cecily Nigel wrote: "Maybe there should be a saying - something like "never judge a book".. 😂"

Ha! Very good.
I think I've also been trained by so many years of bookshops doing three-for-two offers that having deliberately picked two books, I was subconsciously open to a less thoughtful third - even though none of them were part of such an offer!


message 33: by Cecily (last edited Apr 19, 2023 11:57AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Cecily Nigel wrote: "The "charmed by the cover" bit is so sensible to me..."

I've just realised that although there's a cat on the cover, I don't think a cat is mentioned in the book! Is that false advertising? If so, can I get a refund? 😂


message 34: by Paulo (last edited Apr 19, 2023 12:27PM) (new) - added it

Paulo Cecily wrote: "...there's a cat on the cover, I don't think a cat is mentioned in the book! Is that false advertising? If so, can I get a refund?..."

No, because perhaps it is the Cheshire Cat! If it's the case he comes and goes as it pleases. Or the author put it there to seek the blessings of Lewis Carrol, who knows!



message 35: by Nigel (new)

Nigel Cecily wrote: "Nigel wrote: "The "charmed by the cover" bit is so sensible to me..."

I've just realised that although there's a cat on the cover, I don't think a cat is mentioned in the book! Is that false adver..."


Without question! Your previous comment brought back (great) memories of going into book shops with my teenage daughter - we would each pick 1 book and then" discuss "what the 3rd one should be 😂


message 36: by Cecily (last edited Apr 19, 2023 01:42PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Cecily Paulo wrote: "No, because perhaps it is the Cheshire Cat! If it's the case he comes and goes as it pleases. Or the author put it there to seek the blessings of Lewis Carrol, who knows!"

Ha ha. Do you have shares in the publisher?!
On the other hand, maybe at a subconscious level, that's why I thought of the White Rabbit?


message 37: by Paulo (new) - added it

Paulo Cecily wrote: "Ha ha. Do you have shares in the publisher?! ..."

Sadly no I don't.🥺
But you have to admit that if your "White Rabbit" is more appropriate in the context, my "Cheshire Cat" has much more style...After all,“we're all mad here. ...🤣


message 38: by Cecily (last edited Apr 20, 2023 02:29AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Cecily Paulo wrote: "This is was unexpected. The purple prose may be a bit much for some, but I loved it."

Mad, maybe, but if I'm to appreciate the Disney-esque colours of your Cheshire Cat, I'll need something more... 'stimulating' than tea! 😂


message 39: by Paulo (last edited Apr 20, 2023 02:33AM) (new) - added it

Paulo Cecily wrote: "I'll need something more... 'stimulating' that tea!..."

Well, if we need a "stimulant" then I bet that Caterpillar's hookah is far more "interesting"? 😇


message 40: by Traveller (last edited Apr 21, 2023 02:55AM) (new) - added it

Traveller Ha, you've intrigued me enough to see if I can at least borrow the book to see what the discussion is about. After being somewhat exposed to Japanese lit, I already know about nonsensical supernatural things and ghosts - some of the writers often seem to find themselves unconstrained by any external rules connected to reality and tend to make their own internal rules for stories.

The only thing that you've mentioned about this one that makes me frown is the fact that you go and back in time but cannot change history? Like you said, that sounds rather pointless. I assume then only to observe?
Anyway, interesting discussion. :)


message 41: by Cecily (last edited Apr 21, 2023 07:26AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Cecily Traveller wrote: "Ha, you've intrigued me enough to see if I can at least borrow the book... After being somewhat exposed to Japanese lit, I already know about nonsensical supernatural..."

Definitely borrow, if you can. If you read the first section, you'll have a good idea of what the other three are like. I know you enjoy sci-fi, speculative fiction, and time travel, but this isn't any of those. Your appreciation of Japanese literature might carry you through, but I wouldn't bank on it.

Traveller wrote: "... The only thing that you've mentioned about this one that makes me frown is the fact that you go and back in time but cannot change history?..."

Time travellers can only talk, listen, and look, and they're stuck in the café. The knowledge they gain might change them in the original present and thus future, but on returning to when they started, everything else will be as it was when the coffee was poured. It's more like watching a film reel than actually travelling.


message 42: by Laura (new)

Laura Interesting review. I've been curious about this book but will borrow rather than buy.


Cecily Laura wrote: "Interesting review. I've been curious about this book but will borrow rather than buy."

Garmus has enough praise, awards, and sales that she'll survive without your money.


message 44: by s.penkevich (last edited May 21, 2023 08:39AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

s.penkevich Spot on review! Haha how cold is cold—YEA . My lit teacher friend always refers to cold coffee as “teacher blend� because he never gets to it until it’s already room temp and enjoys it just fine haha, so I guess the rule makers didn’t ask any teachers if it was still good or not.
But great points on the male gaze aspect, especially that last story just really left a bad taste. And good rundown of the many inconsistencies. I want to like this one but couldn’t find the joy under all the things that bugged me. Will you read any of the sequels? I sometimes consider it but nah
Once again, wonderful review!


Cecily s.penkevich wrote: "Spot on review! Haha how cold is cold—YEA . My lit teacher friend always refers to cold coffee as “teacher blend� because he never gets to it until it’s already room temp ..."

In my brief time teaching primary school, I sometimes had "teacher cramp" that I eventually realised was because I hadn't had time to pee during the whole day. At least in secondary schools, teachers have a bit more non-contact time, but in primary, you've got the whole class all the time - and back then, teachers usually had to supervise breaks and lunch as well!

s.penkevich wrote: "... I want to like this one but couldn’t find the joy under all the things that bugged me...."

Exactly. It becomes a vicious cycle. Conversely, had I managed to enjoy it, I'd have been able to overlook some of its flaws.

s.penkevich wrote: "... Will you read any of the sequels?..."

As you've seen my rating and read my review, I assume that's rhetorical! 🤣


Marilyn Mills Thank you for asking questions about the ghost…why didn’t we get her story..? Why does she have to always say yes to another cup of coffee? Why did she stare at kei?


Cecily Marilyn wrote: "Thank you for asking questions about the ghost�"

Thanks. If I'd enjoyed the book more, it would have been easier to apply the willing suspension of disbelief.


message 48: by Nocturnalux (new)

Nocturnalux I haven't read the book but for quite a few Japanese people, refusing refills is actually very hard. There is even an expression, to the effect of "I hope to become a Japanese person who can say 'no'". The book may be poking fun at this.

My professor of Japanese is one such person. Once, at an ambassy function, she was serve macha with milk, which is...a crime, really. She couldn't decline it. Then, after managing to get rid of this ungodly swill (down the toilet it went), the same waiter corners her again...and once more, serves us the same horrible combination. She couldn't say 'no' the second time around either.


Cecily Nocturnalux wrote: "I haven't read the book but for quite a few Japanese people, refusing refills is actually very hard. There is even an expression, to the effect of "I hope to become a Japanese person who can say 'no'..."

Aha. That's very useful to know. Thanks.


message 50: by Nocturnalux (new)

Nocturnalux Cecily wrote: "Nocturnalux wrote: "I haven't read the book but for quite a few Japanese people, refusing refills is actually very hard. There is even an expression, to the effect of "I hope to become a Japanese p..."

No problem.

This can make translation a bit tricky, on occasion. For example, if you're being served and say "just a bit", what you really mean- more often than not- is "no, thank you" but since you cannot actually say that, you turn to euphemism.


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