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Before the Coffee Gets Cold (Before the Coffee Gets Cold, #1)
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bookshelves: overrated, china-japan-asia, time-travel, death-grief-bereavement-mortality
Apr 16, 2023
bookshelves: overrated, china-japan-asia, time-travel, death-grief-bereavement-mortality
I spotted this when I was browsing in a bookshop. I love time travel paradoxes, the premise and setting of this sounded intriguing, and I was charmed by the cover (shards of aqua foil, plus a cat that isn't in the book). How shallow I am. This is my penance.
What would you do?
Who wouldn’t want to travel in time, if there was no danger? The main problem would be choosing when and where to go. The rules in this scenario are so limiting, choice is easy. Plus, there’s a sort of reverse butterfly effect: whatever you see or say, won’t change the present. That sounds safe - but also pointless: more like watching a film reel than actually travelling.
It’s set in a 140-year old Japanese basement café in the present day. No windows, so �A permanent sepia hue stained the café interior�. It has three counter seats, and three two-people tables, three clocks, and three staff.
Each of the four sections focus on a particular situation that prompts a woman to to see loved-ones they cannot otherwise see, or get answers to important questions. There's a backdrop of recurring characters and a continuous, chronological narrative.
The willing suspension of disbelief
It’s especially important to suppress incredulity in time travel stories, which often don’t (and can’t) explain the mechanics. The key word is “willing�. There was too much I disliked for me to suspend the large amounts of disbelief required. I read the whole book, even though I didn’t enjoy it, in the vain hope I’d be won over. The saving grace is that it’s quite short.

Image: John Tenniel’s illustration of the White Rabbit, worrying about being late.
The rules
� You must return “before the coffee gets cold�, otherwise (view spoiler) .
� You must sit in a specific seat and not move from it.
� That seat is occupied most of the time (view spoiler) .
� You must not challenge the person sitting in the time travel seat (view spoiler) .
� You can only meet someone who has been to the café.
� You can only use the time travel seat once.
� You can travel to the past or the future, but the rules make the future more problematic, so few people do it.
The title rule had promise, but the others made it less interesting. I felt as if some had been added later to make the story work - but they failed.
I now wonder if it would work better without the time travel element! Just tell the four poignant stories of semi-connected women (ideally in a more positive way), where they find peace from information via more conventional means, such as a cache of old letters or a long-lost relative.
The flaws in the rules
Not plot spoilers, but I want to remember what I disliked, without highlighting those features to people who enjoyed the book. I don’t think it's possible to tell a time travel story without any contradictions or unanswered questions, but this has far too many, imo.
(view spoiler)
The flaws in the book
Not plot spoilers, but I want to remember what I disliked, without highlighting those features to people who enjoyed the book.
(view spoiler)
Other things are just odd. Had I enjoyed the book, I might have thought them charming quirks.
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What would you do?
Who wouldn’t want to travel in time, if there was no danger? The main problem would be choosing when and where to go. The rules in this scenario are so limiting, choice is easy. Plus, there’s a sort of reverse butterfly effect: whatever you see or say, won’t change the present. That sounds safe - but also pointless: more like watching a film reel than actually travelling.
It’s set in a 140-year old Japanese basement café in the present day. No windows, so �A permanent sepia hue stained the café interior�. It has three counter seats, and three two-people tables, three clocks, and three staff.
Each of the four sections focus on a particular situation that prompts a woman to to see loved-ones they cannot otherwise see, or get answers to important questions. There's a backdrop of recurring characters and a continuous, chronological narrative.
The willing suspension of disbelief
It’s especially important to suppress incredulity in time travel stories, which often don’t (and can’t) explain the mechanics. The key word is “willing�. There was too much I disliked for me to suspend the large amounts of disbelief required. I read the whole book, even though I didn’t enjoy it, in the vain hope I’d be won over. The saving grace is that it’s quite short.

Image: John Tenniel’s illustration of the White Rabbit, worrying about being late.
The rules
� You must return “before the coffee gets cold�, otherwise (view spoiler) .
� You must sit in a specific seat and not move from it.
� That seat is occupied most of the time (view spoiler) .
� You must not challenge the person sitting in the time travel seat (view spoiler) .
� You can only meet someone who has been to the café.
� You can only use the time travel seat once.
� You can travel to the past or the future, but the rules make the future more problematic, so few people do it.
The title rule had promise, but the others made it less interesting. I felt as if some had been added later to make the story work - but they failed.
I now wonder if it would work better without the time travel element! Just tell the four poignant stories of semi-connected women (ideally in a more positive way), where they find peace from information via more conventional means, such as a cache of old letters or a long-lost relative.
The flaws in the rules
Not plot spoilers, but I want to remember what I disliked, without highlighting those features to people who enjoyed the book. I don’t think it's possible to tell a time travel story without any contradictions or unanswered questions, but this has far too many, imo.
(view spoiler)
The flaws in the book
Not plot spoilers, but I want to remember what I disliked, without highlighting those features to people who enjoyed the book.
(view spoiler)
Other things are just odd. Had I enjoyed the book, I might have thought them charming quirks.
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April 9, 2023
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April 10, 2023
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"Silly, slightly sexist, illogical, with no redeeming features.
Not sure why this is so popular, but at least it's a very quick read - yay, I thought of a redeeming feature!
Review to come."
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Not sure why this is so popular, but at least it's a very quick read - yay, I thought of a redeeming feature!
Review to come."
April 16, 2023
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overrated
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china-japan-asia
April 16, 2023
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April 16, 2023
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death-grief-bereavement-mortality
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I think there's more than one sequel, and presume they're pretty similar, so I won't be reading more either. Each to their own.

The stilted language is certainly an issue (in addition to some very silly ideas that don't stack up), but it's hard to know whether that's the fault of the translator or a reflection of the sort of plain Japanese prose that can be sparse, poetic, and beautiful.
I'll say more in a review, soon.


Well done Cecily. I missed that discrepancy completely.

There are more. I won't be reading them, and although I have quite a few GR friends who enjoyed this, I wouldn't recommend it.

Your review has me definitely contemplating my extra half star haha
While reading, I first hoped that the plot may win me over. But when I saw that the rules of it kind of dampen the effect, I wished that the prose might be redeeming. Though I realized quite soon that that writing wasn’t that great either. So not a winning experience overall.

That's really interesting. Thanks, Isabella.

Well done Cecily. I missed that discrepancy completely."
It's perhaps the oddest one to have reached publication, so it amused more than it annoyed me.

While reading, I first hoped that the plot may win me over. But when I saw that the rules of it kind of dampen the effect, I wished that the prose might be redeeming. Though I realized quite soon that that writing wasn’t that great either....."
LOL, and yes, I know what you mean.



Happy to help. I've only skimmed friends' ratings, which were mostly positive. When I start reading their reviews, I'll be interested to see what they liked.

I'll have to check those out. I haven't read much Heinlein and nothing by Gerrold. Thanks, Apatt.

Time travel is an inherently interesting concept, and I understand the desire to put a quirky twist on it, but that is not sufficient to create a well-executed story.



And how. Cecily, I'll have to add your review to my review.* I agree with Lisa, though: whenever I read a book with others, the rating inevitably skews up.
*I didn't have the time or inclination to write out all the things I found wrong with it, and disliked about it. I'm glad you and so many others have.

Philip. Yes, discussing books often makes them even more interesting.

Ah, a sneak peek at the near future. That could be very useful in lots of circumstances. If you could do it as often as you liked, to whenever you liked, it wouldn't make much of a story, but it could definitely the basis for one...

Your review is very fair, and it reflects your wider experience, including the book club discussion. I often find it easier and more worthwhile to discuss and review books I have strong opinions, good or bad. Thanks, Lisa, and I hope most of your book club reads are more aligned with your taste.


Which is both a pro and a con of writing a review before discussing the book, which is what I usually do.

It's even nicer in real life: the dark patterns of the wallpaper are foil, so it catches the light nicely, without being garish and glittery.
Laysee wrote: "... Pity this story with a clever title did not win you over"
Unfortunately my current book isn't my taste either, so I'll have to pick my next one carefully.

Thanks. They've been a mix but I am grateful That I've read many great books I might not have read otherwise.


Conversely, I put off reading Elena Ferrante, in part because the covers looked like something from Mills & Boon or Harlequin Romance. I should rise above my gut reaction to cover art.

Conversely, I put off reading [author:Elena Ferrant..."
That I also get! Maybe there should be a saying - something like "never judge a book".. 😂

Ha! Very good.
I think I've also been trained by so many years of bookshops doing three-for-two offers that having deliberately picked two books, I was subconsciously open to a less thoughtful third - even though none of them were part of such an offer!

I've just realised that although there's a cat on the cover, I don't think a cat is mentioned in the book! Is that false advertising? If so, can I get a refund? 😂

No, because perhaps it is the Cheshire Cat! If it's the case he comes and goes as it pleases. Or the author put it there to seek the blessings of Lewis Carrol, who knows!


I've just realised that although there's a cat on the cover, I don't think a cat is mentioned in the book! Is that false adver..."
Without question! Your previous comment brought back (great) memories of going into book shops with my teenage daughter - we would each pick 1 book and then" discuss "what the 3rd one should be 😂

Ha ha. Do you have shares in the publisher?!
On the other hand, maybe at a subconscious level, that's why I thought of the White Rabbit?

Sadly no I don't.🥺
But you have to admit that if your "White Rabbit" is more appropriate in the context, my "Cheshire Cat" has much more style...After all,“we're all mad here. ...🤣

Mad, maybe, but if I'm to appreciate the Disney-esque colours of your Cheshire Cat, I'll need something more... 'stimulating' than tea! 😂

Well, if we need a "stimulant" then I bet that Caterpillar's hookah is far more "interesting"? 😇

The only thing that you've mentioned about this one that makes me frown is the fact that you go and back in time but cannot change history? Like you said, that sounds rather pointless. I assume then only to observe?
Anyway, interesting discussion. :)

Definitely borrow, if you can. If you read the first section, you'll have a good idea of what the other three are like. I know you enjoy sci-fi, speculative fiction, and time travel, but this isn't any of those. Your appreciation of Japanese literature might carry you through, but I wouldn't bank on it.
Traveller wrote: "... The only thing that you've mentioned about this one that makes me frown is the fact that you go and back in time but cannot change history?..."
Time travellers can only talk, listen, and look, and they're stuck in the café. The knowledge they gain might change them in the original present and thus future, but on returning to when they started, everything else will be as it was when the coffee was poured. It's more like watching a film reel than actually travelling.

Garmus has enough praise, awards, and sales that she'll survive without your money.

But great points on the male gaze aspect, especially that last story just really left a bad taste. And good rundown of the many inconsistencies. I want to like this one but couldn’t find the joy under all the things that bugged me. Will you read any of the sequels? I sometimes consider it but nah
Once again, wonderful review!

In my brief time teaching primary school, I sometimes had "teacher cramp" that I eventually realised was because I hadn't had time to pee during the whole day. At least in secondary schools, teachers have a bit more non-contact time, but in primary, you've got the whole class all the time - and back then, teachers usually had to supervise breaks and lunch as well!
s.penkevich wrote: "... I want to like this one but couldn’t find the joy under all the things that bugged me...."
Exactly. It becomes a vicious cycle. Conversely, had I managed to enjoy it, I'd have been able to overlook some of its flaws.
s.penkevich wrote: "... Will you read any of the sequels?..."
As you've seen my rating and read my review, I assume that's rhetorical! 🤣


Thanks. If I'd enjoyed the book more, it would have been easier to apply the willing suspension of disbelief.

My professor of Japanese is one such person. Once, at an ambassy function, she was serve macha with milk, which is...a crime, really. She couldn't decline it. Then, after managing to get rid of this ungodly swill (down the toilet it went), the same waiter corners her again...and once more, serves us the same horrible combination. She couldn't say 'no' the second time around either.

Aha. That's very useful to know. Thanks.

No problem.
This can make translation a bit tricky, on occasion. For example, if you're being served and say "just a bit", what you really mean- more often than not- is "no, thank you" but since you cannot actually say that, you turn to euphemism.