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A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift
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bookshelves: definitely-to-read, fiction, classics, ireland

I came across this essay via Scribble's review and read it in no time. I thought it would be light reading and it turned out to be something completely different. Satire at its best from Mr Swift.

I read this in the dentist's waiting room this morning and it certainly waylaid my normal fear of going there.

The author has come up with a "modest" (nothing modest here) proposal to aid the Irish economy, stop the begging, give mothers (the breeders) the opportunity to get an income by selling their little children and also the delicate meat will be in competition with pigs. I wonder if human flesh is salty? Perhaps I should go and talk to the cannibals on Borneo or other similar countries?

Imagine having a child of around a year in age, all prepared and ready to be cooked, then eaten. I wonder if they need to be marinated first in wine?

I was particularly taken with:

"I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed, is at a year old, a most delicious nourishing and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked or boiled; and I have no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricasie, or a ragoust."

Queer spelling but it was, after all, written in 1729.

Everyone should read it and will understand the Irish humour and satire, if not already known.

A delicious, light but yet thought-provoking book on the never-ceasing wonders of the imagination.
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Reading Progress

April 27, 2013 – Shelved as: to-read
April 27, 2013 – Shelved
April 27, 2013 – Shelved as: definitely-to-read
April 27, 2013 – Shelved as: fiction
May 23, 2013 – Started Reading
May 23, 2013 – Shelved as: classics
May 23, 2013 – Shelved as: ireland
May 23, 2013 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Valerie (new)

Valerie This is fairly short, I gather, so I would expect to find it bound in with other essays.


Lynne King Actually Valerie, it is very short and is a standalone here. You can purchase it with other essays. I was looking for something light to read, and was actually looking for a cowboy book but I found this instead.

I read it in the dentist this morning; helped put the thoughts of what was going to happen with him from my mind.


message 3: by Valerie (new)

Valerie I wouldn't recommend Swift for light reading, unless it's an abridged version: his prose tends to be fairly complex and lawyerly.

I've got a copy of Gulliver's Travels, which I'll read when I get to the 'S's. I've already read most of it, but a lot of it I didn't retain.

Then I'll probably read Mistress Masham's Repose again.

Right now I'm reading things I can read in waiting rooms, which is a good thing, because I ended up in the Emergency Room yesterday after a bike accident, and I'm not supposed to walk much for a while. Luckily my clinic is just up the hill--but I'm not looking forward to those stairs.


message 4: by Valerie (new)

Valerie I should say, by the way, that there really is no 'the' Irish mentality. It's necessary to recognize that showing any resistance at all to the occupation government was likely to get people sent into exile or killed. Swift got away with satire because the British authorities thought (probably mistakenly) that the Irish peasantry couldn't read between the lines. Even those who were not literate themselves almost certainly heard the satires, and they had years of experience in hearing the hidden tones.


Lynne King Valerie wrote: "I wouldn't recommend Swift for light reading, unless it's an abridged version: his prose tends to be fairly complex and lawyerly.

I've got a copy of Gulliver's Travels, which I'll read when I get..."


Sorry about the accident. Hope you're soon well Valerie.


message 6: by Dolors (last edited May 23, 2013 09:39AM) (new)

Dolors I wonder if human flesh is salty?
You managed a perfectly balanced smart and satirical review, Lynne. I love Ireland with its rough humour and its darkish pubs and green moors and forever grey skies.
You brought a bit of that with your review! Thanks Lynne.


Lynne King Do you know Dolors that I've never been to Ireland and I've got about six Irish friends all from Dublin.


message 8: by Dolors (new)

Dolors Lynne wrote: "Do you know Dolors that I've never been to Ireland and I've got about six Irish friends all from Dublin."

Ohhh! You should definitely go Lynne. I adore that country! Although much people prefer more sophisticated destinations, I find it a special and magic land. I actually lived 3 months in Cork when I was learning English and I would have loved to stay, but life had other things planned for me... (sigh)


message 9: by Caroline (new)

Caroline Gosh! 0_0 It sounds an extraordinary piece of writing!

I am so sorry to hear about your accident Lynne, and hope very much that the healing doesn't take too long. You take care.


message 10: by Lynne (last edited May 23, 2013 12:02PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lynne King Caroline, I didn't have an accident. It was Valerie.


message 11: by Caroline (new)

Caroline Lynne wrote: "Caroline, I didn't have an accident. It was Valerie."

That's what comes from reading comments never intended for my eyes! (I hope Valerie recovers soon....)


Lynne King Caroline wrote: "Lynne wrote: "Caroline, I didn't have an accident. It was Valerie."

That's what comes from reading comments never intended for my eyes! (I hope Valerie recovers soon....)"


It's just nice to know that you cared Caroline and made that comment. Thank you.

Well two thirteen days to go and then I'll be in Wales for the holidays. Cannot wait - just hope that it's not raining as it is here. Shades of "Night of the Iguana".


message 13: by Caroline (new)

Caroline Fingers crossed for your your trip to Wales Lynne! Right now (near London) it is raining, and it's so chilly I am thinking of turning on the heating :-(


Lynne King Heavens and the heavens opened...Wellington boots Caroline and heating... Oh no...


message 15: by Dolors (new)

Dolors Your holidays around the corner Lynne! Equally envious and happy for you. I'll ask the weather gods to bless your surely deserved resting days with warm sun and clear skies! :))


Lynne King Thank you as ever Dolors! Are you sure that there are weather gods? I can only pray to the Welsh dragon...


message 17: by Ilhem (new)

Ilhem Well, it seems that you smiled (or smirked) and you made me smile, too.
You reminded me of a book that I read a long time ago : the Evolution Man by Roy Lewis. The title in French is : Pourqoi j'ai mangé mon père.


message 18: by Dolors (new)

Dolors Mmm...Welsh dragons might be more effective, but I'm not sure they'd listen to my Spanish, foreign prayers! ;P


Lynne King "Why I ate my father?" Or is there a more subtle translation Ilhem. I still drop dreadful clangers in French! I see through Amazon that it's "How I Ate my Father". But then French and English titles never seem to have realistic translations.

I'll have to get it of course!


message 20: by Ilhem (new)

Ilhem Lynne wrote: ""Why I ate my father?" Or is there a more subtle translation Ilhem. I still drop dreadful clangers in French! I see through Amazon that it's "How I Ate my Father". But then French and English title..."

The book I have is actually titled Pourquoi j'ai mangé mon père.
I also marvel (!!) at the translations...


message 21: by Will (new)

Will Byrnes A prequel to Soylent Green


Lynne King A presequel! I loved Soylent Green though Will. What was the music when Edgward G. Robinson was awaiting his end?


message 23: by Will (new)

Will Byrnes From Wikipedia

The "going home" score in Roth's death scene was conducted by Gerald Fried and consists of the main themes from Symphony No. 6 ("Pathétique") by Tchaikovsky, Symphony No. 6 ("Pastoral") by Beethoven, and the Peer Gynt Suite ("Morning Mood" and "Åse's Death") by Edvard Grieg.


Lynne King Thanks Will. I had a quick look and evidently EGR died about ten days after filming finished; from cancer. Sad.


message 25: by Will (new)

Will Byrnes Makes one wonder how his remains were disposed of.


Lynne King Really Will!


message 27: by Will (new)

Will Byrnes Sorry, couldn't help myself


message 28: by [deleted user] (new)

I have been waiting for a modern Jonathan Swift to come along and write a new modest proposal that would satirize some of the more bizarre political notions gaining currency in the USA. I'm not sure if the subjects would get the humor though. Nice review.


Lynne King Thanks for your comment Steve.

Incidentally who are the best satirists in the US?


message 30: by [deleted user] (new)

Lynne wrote: "Thanks for your comment Steve.

Incidentally who are the best satirists in the US?"


Hands down---Stephen Colbert of the comedy show The Colbert Report.

Literary satirists are no longer much of a force. Alas, the best ones are departed: Gore Vidal; Kurt Vonnegut; Joseph Heller (come to mind).


Yasiru I'd say South Park is one of the best American pop culture satires I've seen, though (as might be the case with Colbert, though for somewhat different reasons) much of the audience appears immune to this scathing aspect- focused instead on the 'toilet humour'.
I suspect that as divisions and polarisation grow in a society and the political arena that tries to represent its interests, Poe's law applies with ever increasing frequency.


Cecily I really enjoyed your review - and the fact that reading this made the dentist less daunting! Brilliant satire from Swift, too, of course.


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