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New Moon by Stephenie Meyer
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As ye sow, so shall ye reap.

Earlier this year, I foolishly lent my copy of Twilight to Cate across the road. She liked it. Then, when she got a place at college last month, we thought we'd give her something as a congratulations-and-going-away present. It was so logical to buy a copy of New Moon.

Cate zipped through it quickly, and dropped off her copy before leaving so that I could read it too. How could I possibly say anything except thank you?

Well... look on the bright side. I've heard so much about this book, and I suppose it is interesting to see what people are talking about. But, Jesus Christ, Bella is eighteen and she's already obsessing about getting old. She keeps hassling Edward to turn her into a vampire so that she can stay young and pretty for ever. There is some chance that this will result in her losing her immortal soul, but hey, seems worth the risk.

I suppose future ages may consider that this says something about early 21st century Western society. You don't exactly have to overexert your mind to come up with interpretations in that direction.

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So here's a thought that occurred to me this morning, which I'm surprised to find hasn't already been discussed to death by hardcore Twilight fans. Bella is a bright girl who gets mostly As and Bs at school, so why hasn't she stopped even for a second to consider the physics of vampires? To start with, where do they get their energy from? They don't really eat, they don't really drink, and they don't even need to breathe. Yet they're incredibly strong and fast. OK, they claim they need blood every now and then. But not, apparently, very often, and how could they possibly get this amount of energy from the occasional liter of blood?

Then they're hard, "like marble". In fact, if they didn't claim to be vampires, would we even think of calling them that? They certainly seem to be a lot more like humanoid robots. And if you just follow up that hypothesis for a moment, several things fall into place. Their blood must surely be full of those little nanobots that are going to be the Next Big Thing. When a vampire bites a human, the nanobots get into the victim's bloodstream and start restructuring him from the inside out, replacing all the soft animal tissue with something far more durable.

That no doubt includes the brain too; they probably scan it and then map the structure onto software, a trick that's been standard in SF for several decades now. No wonder the "vampires" can think so uncannily fast. But if your brain has been scanned, destroyed, and turned into software, are you still the same person? You can see why Edward is warning Bella that she might lose her soul. It's a bit like turning an LP into a CD, a process that several of my classical musician friends describe in exactly those words.

And, going back to where we came in, where is their energy coming from? Those nanobots must have their own power source too. I must admit that I don't know what it is. The fact that "vampires" don't seem to need any kind of material inputs suggests it's not chemical; nuclear seems more likely. Maybe they have some kind of catalyzed cold fusion, or it could be a post-quantum force that we haven't discovered yet. After all, we're way overdue for the coming revolution in physics.

Also, where did the nanobots come from, and why are "vampires" unhappy to be out in open sunlight? I can only see one sensible answer. They can't have been created by humans. "Vampires" have been around a long time, and human technology was primitive when they first appeared. They must be from elsewhere, which in practice means from another solar system. Probably they were originally created thousands of light-years from here, and have been drifting slowly on the cosmic currents for millennia. Well, if their normal habitat is deep interstellar space, no wonder they're scared of sunlight. They wouldn't normally be this close to a star; they're not designed for it at all.

And here's the thing that surprised me most. In fact, the story isn't irrelevant or far-fetched. If people like Ray Kurzweil are right, it's tackling what could soon be a major issue. According to Kurzweil, the Singularity is supposed to arrive this century, and those nanobots will be a reality. Millions of people will have to make exactly the moral choice that Bella has to make in the book. Are you going to stay human, or allow yourself to be transformed into a godlike and near-immortal being, which might however not actually be you any more?

It's interesting that the books are appearing when they are, and present such a compelling emotional case for allowing yourself to be infected by nanobots. If you like conspiracy theories, feel free to speculate some more here.

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I'm doing my best to like this book. I mean, hating it would hardly be a challenge, would it? But every now and then, I get a passage like this one:
I'd been broken beyond repair.

But I needed Jacob now, needed him like a drug. I'd used him as a crutch for too long, and I was in deeper than I'd planned to go with anyone again.
Aaarrrrgh!!!

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Having now reached the end, I must admit that I enjoyed New Moon more than I'd expected. Of course, there are some problems, starting with the fact that Stephenie Meyer can't write to save her life. But by making it a first-person narrative told by the shy, clumsy Bella, she has found an ingenious way to get around that. Bella's endearing klutziness is just a metaphor for her even more serious problems as a writer. As she keeps telling us, every time she walks across a room she wonders if she'll trip over her feet and end up in hospital; similar remarks apply to her ability to string together an eight word declarative sentence. But she's stylistically consistent, and after a while I found myself accepting her. This just happens to be her voice, even though it's not a very good one.

I also thought that she was a seriously unreliable narrator. Not about factual events; to start off with, she doesn't seem to be imaginative enough to make anything up. When it comes to telling us about her feelings, however, I found it hard to believe her, and presenting everything as a mass of regurgitated romantic clichés is an effective way to show us how poorly she understands herself. We hear over and over again that she loves Edward, and only thinks of Jacob as a friend. But we also hear that Edward feels hard and cold to the touch. I couldn't help thinking of the wonderful scene in Mean Girls where Rachel McAdams's Cool Mom insists on giving Lindsay Lohan a silicone-enhanced hug; I'm sure that Bella often winces in just the same way when Edward hugs her, though she doesn't allow herself to notice it. In contrast, Jacob is warm and alive, and she genuinely likes holding his hand and feeling him put his arm around her. There are several scenes when she nearly kisses him, knowing full well what that will lead to. It's clear that she wants to, and the excuses she makes to herself about him just being an unsatisfactory substitute for Edward are laughably unconvincing.

I found the opposition between Edward and Jacob the heart of the book, and after a while I decided that the author was presenting something interesting and essentially honest. The tricky thing is that she's subverted the vampire symbol. Usually, vampires represent the young girl's simultaneous dread and fascination in the face of sex. But Edward isn't very sexy. We're always being told that he looks like an angel, and indeed there does seem to be an angelic purity about him. I find it much more plausible that he's representing religion, and when you think of him in those terms several other things come into focus. As Richard Dawkins keeps telling us, a religion is a kind of virus, which infected parties want to spread as quickly as possible; well, vampirism is rather like that too. And Bella is very conflicted in her feelings about vampires. She loves the Cullens, "her family", but she is well aware that most vampires are monsters. If you're brought up in a cult-like religion, that's not a bad metaphor. All other religions are evil and wrong; your own religion is the one exception to the rule.

As everyone knows, Stephenie Meyer is a committed Mormon. It doesn't seem far-fetched to claim that Bella's feelings about vampires mirror the author's feelings about her religion, which among other things is very down on premarital sex. And that's where the werewolves come in; they represent the normal sexual feelings that most young Mormon girls are taught to deny. The tension between these two conflicting attractions is what gives New Moon its undeniable force, and I found the story credible at an emotional level. I can readily believe that it's just like that to be a eighteen year old Mormon girl with a healthy sexual appetite, and I feel I understand their plight better after having read this book. Well done, Stephenie!



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Reading Progress

October 3, 2009 – Shelved
October 3, 2009 – Shelved as: children
October 3, 2009 – Shelved as: trash
October 3, 2009 – Shelved as: science-fiction
October 3, 2009 –
page 85
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October 4, 2009 –
page 180
31.97%
October 5, 2009 –
page 300
53.29%
October 6, 2009 –
page 375
66.61%
Started Reading
October 7, 2009 –
page 450
79.93%
October 7, 2009 – Finished Reading
January 7, 2010 – Shelved as: mentions-twilight
October 6, 2010 – Shelved as: older-men-younger-women

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message 1: by Hazel (new)

Hazel Et tu, Manny?


Manny Well... I've read Twilight, so I'm already damned!


message 3: by Hazel (new)

Hazel I haven't succumbed so far. But several people whose opinions I respect have been reading them. I shall probably fall to peer pressure eventually.

But not today!


message 4: by Marvin (new) - added it

Marvin In my practice, i see a lot of adolescents. Every, and I mean every, teenage girl have read this book series and they rave about it. Personally it is the last thing I would want to read but I'll do it just to see what the big deal is. (The Twilight movie was awful, IMO) I did the same thing regarding Harry Potter, thinking I would hate it, and I loved the Harry Potter series.


message 5: by Hazel (last edited Oct 03, 2009 11:59AM) (new)

Hazel Marvin,when I was a teenage girl, that would have been enough reason to refuse to read it! I'm trying to plant subversive ideas in my niece's head, but it's an uphill battle.


The Crimson Fucker Dude! I feel your pain! You know I can’t wait for it to get colder so I can finally read the next one!!! Is going to be awesome! My problem is buying the book� I think I’ma ask a friend to buy it for me =)



message 7: by Lori (new)

Lori Manny, you are the last person on earth I figured to see a Twilight book on your list of books!


Manny Lori wrote: "Manny, you are the last person on earth I figured to see a Twilight book on your list of books!"

Well, I explain the reasons in my draft review. And, as I go on to say, there are some angles to this series that really didn't occur to me at once...


message 9: by Matt (new)

Matt My conspiracy theory: There are twelve cylon models, Edward Cullen is number seven. Their leader is Joseph Smith/Richard Nixon, which follows your "no longer being the same person" idea.


Manny That's frighteningly specific. I won't ask how you got the information...


The Crimson Fucker You see this is my problem with people and New Moon� everyone focuses on the vampires� but what about the wolves� what explanation you have for the mass change when a human changes into wolf??? I mean nanobots totally plausible� aliens dropping them here! sure why not? But a human doubling it’s mass in a fraction of a second� common man give me a break!



message 12: by Lori (new)

Lori Manny wrote: "Lori wrote: "Manny, you are the last person on earth I figured to see a Twilight book on your list of books!"

Well, I explain the reasons in my draft review. And, as I go on to say, there are some..."


I know I know, I'm just relaying my initial reaction when I first see this before reading the review. Mouth agape, eyes boggled out. After reading your initial draft, you almost got me curious to read myself. Almost. But not quite!


message 13: by Kristine (last edited Oct 05, 2009 07:27AM) (new)

Kristine I was also surprised you're reading Twilight books. I couldn't make it past the first one. And finishing that book wasn't easy.


message 14: by Tatiana (new)

Tatiana I'm totally sold on the aliens idea. Great review!


message 15: by [deleted user] (new)

This is what my Grandma would say about your situation: No good deed goes unpunished.


message 16: by Aerin (new)

Aerin You're making the Twilight series sound FAR more interesting than it has any right being!


message 17: by Lena (new)

Lena Now my question is, can those nanobots infect your brain not just through the vampire's bite, but somehow through reading these books themselves?

Because, honestly, Manny, despite your above explanation, I can't help but wonder how else could you actually subject yourself not just to one, but TWO of these books?!?


message 18: by Hazel (new)

Hazel I think Manny should be commended! He's open minded enough to read and think imaginatively about these books- and to review them entertainingly too.

You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din.




Manny Thank you everyone for the encouraging remarks! Honestly, this book isn't quite as bad as its reputation. I'll have more to say when I'm finished... looks like that will be later today.



message 20: by Georg (new)

Georg Manny seems to be immune to the Twilight-virus. Everybody else who gave the Twilight books more than a single star suffers from the same symptoms (typing dozens of exclamation marks, or senseless combinations of letters like “ohmygawd!!!�). Since I have not heard of any antidote against Twilight-disease, I secretely suspect Manny of cheating. I assume he did not touch the book, but only read some reviews just to show his boldness.


The Crimson Fucker So� what I get for your review at the end� you team Jacob?



Manny Alfonso wrote: "So� what I get for your review at the end� you team Jacob?"

Alfonso, you clearly read enough of my reviews that there's no point lying to you. I'll say it straight out: I'm more interested in sex than in Mormonism. I hope I didn't shock anyone.


smetchie I wish I could vote for this review again. I'm with you on the religious parallels. (The Volturi are Catholics, obviously)


Manny Thank you Gretchen! And yes... now you say it, of course they're Catholics. Do you know, I didn't even think of that!



The Crimson Fucker Damn�. I never thought about any of that! Maybe that chick who writes this crap is less stupid that one thinks� maybe she is not teaching little girls that being stalked is hot but to get some of that Mormon underwear and stay pure till they get marry� and maybe she didn’t came up with crappy vampiric characters but a full frontal attack on the Catholic church!!! Damn! I’m impressed!



smetchie The Cullens abstain from drinking human blood in the face of all temptation just as Mormons abstain from premarital sex, alcohol, caffeine and whatever else. The Cullens have their animal blood and the Mormons have their ice cream.


The Crimson Fucker Dude� that’s some deep shit that we just dig out of a really crappy book!



message 28: by Daniel (new)

Daniel Excellent review, Manny. Now, please, for the love of God, stop reading these books.


message 29: by smetchie (last edited Oct 08, 2009 09:51AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

smetchie Are you going to read the rest of them, Manny?


Manny Daniel and Gretchen, I'm deeply conflicted on this issue. On the one hand, I recall saying that I'd rather die than read any more Stephenie Meyer. On the other hand...



smetchie The last one is really good. I mean, you know, it's not GOOD but it's, gosh, what? compelling? I don't know. I liked reading them so I don't fit into the whole popular mode of "i hate twilight."


Manny
I thought New Moon was a lot better than Twilight, so I may well end up agreeing with you about the merits of Breaking Dawn. I'll probably get around to it by and by. I mean, if I've read 18.6 books from the Brigade Mondaine series, what reason do I have to turn my nose up at another piece of trash?



The Crimson Fucker Yo, many! What you think if we read it together???? It is cold enough around here for me to be able to hid the book on my jacket now�. When you planning on reading it?



Manny Alfonso, I need to coordinate with Cate-across-the-road, since she's my official Twilight buddy... but as soon as I've got an agreement with her, I'd be delighted to expand our group. Will keep you posted. Maybe I can even get her to join GR!




message 35: by Tatiana (new)

Tatiana Oh, life is too short, too short. There are two Dostoyevsky novels I haven't even read yet. =) I hear time's winged chariot hurrying near and all that. I believe that our place in that Great Library in the Sky is determined by the last book we read in mortality. I'd hate for it to be one I knew was bad before I even opened it, lol. But I'm sure I'll love the review you write so go for it!



Manny Oh, I think you can only really appreciate good books if you also read a fair number of bad ones. And bad books are often more interesting than they first appear. Above all, they don't generally take long to read!



smetchie I enjoy watching really bad horror movies too. It's fun.


Jordan Mwhahahahhahahah!!!

Sorry couldn't help myself.


Manny Jordan, you told me this book was crap. I hope it's clear that I totally disagree with you!



Sarah I think you're giving Meyer too much credit, here, Manny. It would be far more interesting if your analysis were correct, and maybe on some subconscious level Meyer was writing about her feelings on religion, but I just don't believe that she is smart enough to do it on purpose. Nor do I think the poor quality of the writing can be attributed to an "ingenious" first person voice. Her writing, and her heroine, are just awful. I think you are just too damned intelligent to believe anyone else could be that dumb.


smetchie She may not have written about her religion on purpose. Who can say? But it's certainly there.

There are very clear messages in these books about abortion, pre-marital sex, resisting temptation and rejecting socially accepted behaviors in favor of a higher moral standard. There are many other more subtle connections. For instance, Bella's attraction to an overprotective, controlling mate. It seems the Mormon religion has very clear roles for men and women that fit nicely into that picture. I could really go on and on. It was the first thing that turned me off about the books. I felt her religious and moral views were being shoved down my throat disguised as a fun little romance.


Manny Well thank you Sarah! But as so often is the case, I think it's hard to distinguish between what the author did on purpose, what they did out of necessity, and what was just a fortunate accident.

I see nothing to suggest that Stephenie Meyer is capable of good writing, so one way to look at it is that she made a smart pragmatic choice in structuring the Twilight books as a first-person narrative, with a heroine who could plausibly write that way. But presumably Bella borrows quite a lot from the author, so Meyer is writing the way she would have done when she was 18, or at least trying to, and it works. Sort of.

As I argue further in my review of Eclipse, I think the books are emotionally honest at some level, and that's why they're popular. It's nothing to do with Bella or Edward being nice people. They aren't. But they reflect something that readers recognize from their own experience.




message 43: by Tatiana (new)

Tatiana I'm a Mormon feminist so please don't stereotype Mormons' attitudes toward gender roles. It's probably not like you're thinking. The Mormon doctrine is way more feminist than Roman Catholics', for instance, though of course as with most religious traditions, we still have a long way to go. We're working on it. If you want to hear more of the varied views of Mormon women, check out tagline: Angry Activists with Diapers to Change.


smetchie Thanks Tatiana. I appreciate the information. I'll check it out.


message 45: by Manny (last edited Oct 24, 2009 01:28AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Manny Tatiana, I have few Mormon friends and I don't know that much about your religion - though I was fairly sure that it's against premarital sex. Does it seem plausible to you that Edward in New Moon is, at least partly, standing in for the author's religious faith? That didn't seem an unreasonable analysis given my limited knowledge of the subject, but I'd be curious to hear what you thought.


message 46: by Pavel (last edited Oct 24, 2009 03:18AM) (new)

Pavel not sure about Tatiana and her friends concept of feminism. According to my humble views on the subject even idea of contradicts classic feminist concept, which basically denies all differences in rights and freedoms between women and men. That's why "feminist mormon" sounds a bit like "vegetarian 3 pound veal steak" to me.


message 47: by Tatiana (new)

Tatiana Manny, I haven't read the books so I can't say specifically. It's certainly possible that the author's faith is reflected somehow in her work. I just don't think it's a good idea to generalize or stereotype a religion based on one person's performance, or to attribute most facets of a particular person's character to the influence of her religion. It not something we do for mainstream religions at all. It's sort of like assuming Catholicism is why Mel Gibson drove drunk and spewed racial epithets at policemen that time. Or thinking that Kanye West acted out at the Oscars because he's black, for that matter. When you know many individuals of a certain class or group then you tend not to attribute their personal quirks to membership in the group, so much. So there are millions of different people who are Mormons.

Pavel, polygamy is not practiced by people of our faith, though it once was long ago. There are also some tiny splinter sects that continue to practice it, and in ways that are extremely problematic, rather than just happy families of consenting adults as shown on "Big Love". But mainstream Mormons practice only monogamy. The splinter sects get into the news more often, perhaps, which confuses people.


Manny Well, I hope I'm not doing anything as bad as blaming Mel Gibson on the Catholic Church. I think in general that, when an author has a strong religious faith, it's hard to believe that didn't influence their writing. Meyer claims in interviews that she's a committed Mormon.

For example, I see you've just read Kristin Lavransdotter (which, by the way, I also thought was brilliant). It would seem absurd to me not to assume that Undset's religion was relevant to any analysis of it.



message 49: by Tatiana (last edited Oct 24, 2009 10:47AM) (new)

Tatiana Here's what I was responding to. This in the comment by Gretchen above.

"There are very clear messages in these books about abortion, pre-marital sex, resisting temptation and rejecting socially accepted behaviors in favor of a higher moral standard. There are many other more subtle connections. For instance, Bella's attraction to an overprotective, controlling mate. It seems the Mormon religion has very clear roles for men and women that fit nicely into that picture. I could really go on and on."

Does that not sound to you as though it implies that Mormon men are generally overprotective and controlling? That's not at all true in my experience. It seems like a caricature that doesn't fit my group, though it may be what the author's experience is like, or maybe not. I'm not sure. I just don't think it's correct to attribute things like this to the author's faith, and I was hoping to show you a larger picture.

If you want to read an excellent Mormon writer, for instance, try Rough Stone Rolling by Richard Bushman. It's history, not a novel, but I feel much better about using him as a representative of what Mormon writers are like than Meyer. Of course, Orson Scott Card is one who is a novelist but I only recommend his early works like Treason, Songmaster, and Speaker for the Dead. (His recent stuff I can't enjoy because I keep reading them as political polemics.)

People's faith does shine through their work in various ways, I think. I do agree with you there. For instance, because I know Tolkien was Catholic, I feel that I can see how that worldview infused Middle Earth and Arda as a whole. But if you told me he actually was Buddhist, would it make me see the trilogy through new eyes? Probably not much. It stands as itself.

So I guess I'm hoping people won't judge a religion by one writer whom everyone seems to agree is dreadful, and decide her dreadfulness is taught by that religion. Especially because it's my religion and I know it as something wonderful. Does that make sense?


Manny Tatiana, you seem to be an intelligent and thoughtful person. If you ever do get around to reading this admittedly rather dreadful book, I'd be so interested to hear your comments!

As I said, my take is somewhat different from Gretchen's. I don't think Edward is intended to represent a typical Mormon husband; I think he's the religion itself, and Stephenie Meyer is writing, at least to some extent, about the conflict between her religious feelings and her sexual feelings. I'm not sure that necessarily says anything either positive or negative about your religion, just about the way she experienced it as a teenager.



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