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Stoner by John  Williams
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it was amazing
bookshelves: nyrb, male, novel, year-1960s, better-book-titles, my-canon

Spoiler alert: read at your own peril.

UPDATE December 2010:

I just submitted this to . I hope they accept it.






Original Review October 2009:
This is the most straight-forward linear narrative type of novel I've read in the past year. So at first, I was not impressed. But I soon realized that the novel is impressive precisely because it is able to be so damn linear, the writing style so damn plain, and the characters so damn dull and yet... and yet it manages to make me continue reading on, driven by what I don't know. There is a constant melancholy through the book, but also its points of light.

So that was the first 100 pages or so. Then it gets good. I mean, really good. But I don't know why. Nothing that much changes, it is just events in the life of this guy. But I start to really care about him, or really understand him... or something. Let me just put it out there: this is a depressing novel. It is a devastating novel. It made me cry. But it is not one where horrible thing after horrible thing happens to good people. Many of the things that happen are... yes, horrible, but also very normal... they are more like small dissappointments.

John Williams is able to kill you softly with his immovable patience, his prose which is like the most patient thing in the world, and which builds and builds by inching closer and closer to the precipice. Precisely because he is not flashy. Precisely because he is so restrained in his prose, that you never realize it when you're right on the edge of the cliff and you're like "wait, how did I get here?"

Also: I don't mean to suggest that his prose is boring. His prose is beautiful. But straight forward. And very functional. It is in service to the subject matter. And the fact that it is not flashy 95% of the time makes it all the more devastating the other 5% of the time, when he floors it as in this passage:

"Years later it was to occur to him that in that hour and a half on that December evening of their first extended time together, she told him more about herself than she ever told him again. And when it was over, he felt that they were strangers in a way that he had not thought they would be, and he knew that he was in love." p53

or in this passage:

"It was a passion neither of the mind nor of the flesh; rather, it was a force that comprehended them both, as if they were but the matter of love, its specific substance. To a woman or to a poem, it said simply: Look! I am alive." p 250

I've rambled long enough. Let me just say a few more things, because I'm a bit delirious. The characters. They are complex and blameless. That is part of the devastation. You can't blame them for the decisions they make. Each one, even the ones that make our protagonist's life hell, you can't blame them because the writer makes you understand (slowly) why they are the way they are. What drives each character to drive each other mad. I read on one of these goodreads reviews someone said "It only troubles me that every single thing that Stoner thinks and says and does seems so incredibly right, or at least perfectly understandable, on first reading." That's what I mean. He didn't do anything wrong. Everything he does is understandable. He was just being himself the best way he knew how. And so was every character in this book.
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Jenny Zimmerman I also appreciated and agreed with your review. No, there isn't much here but he the story of Stoner's life...but you can't help reading every page of it. So simple yet complex at the same time.


message 2: by Dan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Dan Wilbur I'm gonna finally read this and get back to you on the title!


Jimmy Oh hi Dan! I didn't know you were on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ. I hope you like this book as much as everyone does.


³Õí³¦³Ù´Ç°ù I totally agree with you!


Marion Husband wonderful review


Holly Spot on.


Malou You said everything I meant to say, but couldn't describe myself in words


Lichenia Green What a great review, my sentiments entirely. Thanks for putting it so clearly.


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Fionnuala Jimmy, so much of what you say here I agree with but my conclusion was very different to yours.
And I did find someone to pin blame on: the author!


Barbara Rhine I agree with a lot that you said here, but I didn't like it as much as you did. At times I found the prose as dull as the main character, and skimmed. Still, I believe it added to my understanding of how the American WASP culture of stony indifference is formed.


message 12: by MM (new) - rated it 5 stars

MM This review summed up my thoughts so perfectly! Thank you!


Taryn Your first two paragraphs are EXACTLY what I would put in my review. Now I don't have to write one...I defer to yours.


Cecily A perfect review of a wonderful book:

"John Williams is able to kill you softly with his immovable patience, his prose which is like the most patient thing in the world"

Your final paragraph is very true as well. Even Edith. And that's hard.


Bodil You nailed it!!!


Jimmy Thanks Bodil :)


Christopher Nuzzi Like that other lady said, you nailed it dude. Well reviewed.


message 18: by Cat (new) - rated it 4 stars

Cat I just finished this book and read your review, Jimmy! Can I blame the society of the early 1900s if I can't blame the characters? :)


message 19: by Cat (new) - rated it 4 stars

Cat Also, your Better Book Titles was better than the one I found on their site:


Jimmy @Cat: yes you can blame anyone you want! :) And wow, I didn't know they had this book on BBT. I agree, my title is better, but I'm bias.


message 21: by Cat (new) - rated it 4 stars

Cat I think all of everyone's problems would have been solved if it had been socially acceptable for that guy to get a divorce. Except for the idiot student.


Stacey What a shame...


Jasmin Mohd-zain Very well said in this review. You have the potential to ne a John Williams kinda author


Cecily Cat wrote: "I think all of everyone's problems would have been solved if it had been socially acceptable for that guy to get a divorce. Except for the idiot student."

And Grace. What would have happened to her, I wonder?


message 25: by Matt (new) - rated it 5 stars

Matt Hiebert Exactly.


Carmen Arribas As you well said, John Williams is able to kill you softly. I think that pretty much sums up that strange feeling of melancholy and still normalcy that I had throughout the whole novel. Great review!


Carmen Arribas As you well said, John Williams is able to kill you softly. I think that pretty much sums up that strange feeling of melancholy and still normalcy that I had throughout the whole novel. Great review!


Jimmy Thanks carms!


Allison Great review, agree whole heartedly. Nothing happens, yet everything does. And it's amazing the feelings this story invokes with such simple straight forwardness.


Jimmy Thanks Allison! Glad you enjoyed it too


Lauren This is almost exactly what I wanted to say about the book. Great review, and great quotes to choose.


message 32: by Dan (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dan Para Great linear review.


message 33: by Jan (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jan Bretz Such a beautiful and accurate review!


message 34: by SharonBBD (new)

SharonBBD I read your interesting review and then the excerpts from the book.

What followed was a mental flash of my favorite novel, ‘Love In The Time of Cholera�.

Now I’m curious and look forward to reading ‘Stoner�. Thanks.


Simon Rogers Pretty damn precise review. It’s hard to put your finger on why the events of the book make you feel so bad. I did wonder why Lomax was such an arse and thought the book with enlighten us.


message 36: by Mary (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mary McLennan This is exactly how I felt about it. Thanks for putting it into words.


Jimmy Mary, thanks for reading!


message 38: by Suze (new) - rated it 5 stars

Suze Connor Your review sums it up so well. A book I came across by chance but one which has left it’s mark.


coffeeith Books Thanks for your great review. I've just finished the book. I think your better title is perfect.


Merle Ivey Imagine Edith meeting Olive Kitteridge�


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Adnamy Well crafted review...


message 42: by Edith (new)

Edith Excellent review.


Kathy Lamos Wow. Excellent review.


Jimmy Thanks Kathy


message 45: by Nick (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nick Bondarev great review. in a fashion similar to the book manages to be matter of fact and deeply emotional at the same time. personally loved stoner more with each page.


Emily Stoner felt so heartbreakingly close to me, you summed it up beautifully


Estelle P Loved Stoner but poor guy�


Andrew Murawa Yes. But I still can’t forgive him for letting Katherine go.


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