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Perfection by Vincenzo Latronico
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While writing this review, I was more than usually aware that I would be posting it on this website, where, every time I refreshed the page, I'd hope to find that it had clocked up some Likes and comments, each of which would give me a little rush.

That awareness leads me to think about how big a role the 'little rush' plays in my reading life—indeed in my life in general. What would I do if I couldn't write reviews anymore? Would I read differently, maybe give less thought to what I read since I wouldn't have an audience for my post-reading thoughts and discoveries?

Then I wondered what sort of person I have become that I don't read in the privacy of my mind anymore but need to air every reading thought I have in public? But at least I'm producing something with all this, I tell myself. I'm writing a reflection on books every week, and that can't be bad for my psyche, can it?

And so I feel grateful to live in this moment in time that allows me to write and be read, and to discuss and learn from GR friends' review writing and reading. After all, we can't all have review columns in newspapers as Virginia Woolf and many other committed readers did in the past. Readers like us could never have aspired to writing reviews in newspapers!

If you're wondering why this book prompted so much soul-searching, it's because it is about two people who live almost their entire lives on the internet. They are a couple, Anna and Tom, who work from home as graphic designers for websites—which means that every minute of their work day is spent online, and any breaks from work tasks are spent checking their social media profiles for Likes and comments on the well-curated images of their well-curated lifestyle which they constantly post on their social media platforms.

When they are not checking their own profiles, they are searching their virtual friends' feeds for new life-style trends, whether in furnishings, cooking, art exhibitions, or holiday destinations, which they then incorporate into their own lifestyle choices, ordering more and more trending 'things' for their apartment, refining their images of their lives further and further in the search for some ideal of perfection, a search that takes them from Berlin to Lisbon, where there are great sunsets but the food chosen from the laminated menus full of garish photos is served on grubby formica tables, and from Lisbon to Sicily, where the scenery is fabulous but the airbnb is dark and dusty and "crammed with what could only be a dead relative’s furniture", and then back to Berlin because, you've guessed it, the perfect lifestyle is not as easy to create in reality as it is on social media posts. But Berlin isn't the end of the road for Anna and Tom, and Real Life steps in and redirects their lives in an unexpected way.

This book is something of a reality check for the way we live now and yet the really surprising thing is that it was inspired by and based closely on a book from the 1960s—long before internet screens and social media. That book, by French writer Georges Perec, was called Les Choses (The Things).
Perec's book is about a couple called Jérôme and Sylvie who aspired to a particular lifestyle—a classic apartment in the heart of Paris full of rich fabrics, precious objects, fine art, and beautifully bound books.
Perec used a documentary style in presenting the couple and their lives, the narration like a camera panning across their surroundings with little close-ups of their day-to-day activities but never giving much glimpse of the interior thoughts of his two characters—they never speak—so that at the end of the book, they remain as opaque as they were at the beginning. He uses the conditional tense for the first part in which he outlines the life-style the couple aspired to, the present tense for the second part, and the future tense for the final part, their projected future.
Vincenzo Latronico does exactly the same thing—even to the three tenses and the lack of dialogue. And while we hear a lot about Anna and Tom's life, just as in Perec's book, we don't ever get to know them as people. The skill and discipline shown by both authors as they continually keep their characters at a distance from themselves and from us makes their texts a treat to read. At the end of Vincenzo Latronico's book, I still saw Anna and Tom as the blank avatars they were at the beginning, one short-haired, one shoulder length, both in dark grey on a pale grey background.

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I think it was interesting that Anna and Tom's story finished in 2019 when they seemed to have finally found their perfect lifestyle (far from Berlin) because the reader is aware of how their ultimate choice of a way to live would be impacted by the 2020 pandemic, something the author must have been aware of too because he wrote this book during 2020/2021 when he himself must have been living the isolating life he gave his characters though he had situated their story during the ten years leading up to it.
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message 1: by Nick (new)

Nick Grammos Fi, two prescient things

1. I knew you were reading something. And forming a review. It's a sixth sense

2. I was going to comment at the halfway point that this is sounding like the Perec novel, Things. And then you tell me it should.

I watched a Mexican film like this at our local film festival just before Covid. A woman's entire life is expressed through a tiny phone screen and that is how it appears on the film screen. Only what happens on 'screen' for her, in that carefully curated and constructed way. It was terribly insular and claustrophobic. I'll try find the name of it.


message 2: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl And here I am to add a “like� to this Fionnuala :)
Personally, I see GR as a book club of sorts, and I’m most interested in finding books and book discussions, but I can see how this platform could turn into a “like� race, in fact some reviews show up numerous times because they are being reposted for more likes. It’s interesting how at some point we all have to take a look at the advantages and disadvantages of living online. I had to disengage from SM because of what you mention, this fear of getting motivated by likes.
The lessons in this book seem to come back to living authentic lives and being motivated by instinct and intention, not by social media. I’m now intrigued about the ending�


message 3: by Barbara K (new) - added it

Barbara K What thoughtful reflections on your reading and reviewing habits, Fionnuala! I’m pretty sure I read differently since joining GR, but it’s been an evolutionary thing. At one point if I read a book recommended by someone else I would moderate my own response as reflected in my review out of fear that I would offend someone. I’m past that now, and have learned to just enjoy sharing my thoughts, and to hope that when others acknowledge reading them, I can experience that little buzz. I find that our enjoyment of reading and sharing our thoughts here is actually a healthy experience, in contrast to most social media. It doesn’t generate negative comparisons, and it takes us away from the increasing problems of the real world while also offering us different ways of thinking about it.

Thanks for your review, and for encouraging me to read this book. My curiousity is definitely piqued!


message 4: by Jan-Maat (new)

Jan-Maat Phones certainly make curating a lifestyle and perhaps the search for a or the perfect life easier, in the past we had to make do with round robin letters at Christmas and our photo albums- if we could persuade anybody to look at them, what a state of savagery!


message 5: by Fionnuala (last edited Apr 03, 2025 04:43AM) (new) - added it

Fionnuala Nick wrote: "Fi, two prescient things
1. I knew you were reading something. And forming a review. It's a sixth sense
2. I was going to comment at the halfway point that this is sounding like the Perec novel, Things. And then you tell me it should ..."


Hah! It's true that once I've posted a review, I'm already thinking about the next one even if I haven't yet finished the book it will be about—so your sixth sense is perfectly accurate, Nick!
And how about you've also read Perec's book. No one in my bookgroup had. They hadn't paid attention either to the little acknowledgment at the end where Vincenzo Latronico says: "This novel came about as a tribute to Things: A Story of the Sixties, by Georges Perec; anything good in it owes a lot to him."
But like you, I guessed it was a tribute early in the book though it's been years since I read Perec's novel.
That Mexican film does sound interesting—said she, remembering to click the box that will add this response comment to the Update Feed...


message 6: by Jeroen (new)

Jeroen Vandenbossche A very intriguing review on many levels. First of all, I can relate very much to your reflections in the first part about how it would affect our reading if GR didn't exist. I often ponder that question and am still on the fence whether GR is a blessing or not (yes, because my urge to share my insights with you all makes me a more attentive reader and I reread the notes I took while much more diligently than I did in the past; no, because I feel as if my Super Ego (you all!) is constantly looking over my shoulder while I read.

Secondly, I found your review to be intriguing because I kind of guessed the inspiration for the book from your description before you referred us all back to Perec. It is one of my favourite books by him and he is one of my favourite French XXe century authors.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us Fionnuala. I will be thinking of you while I read :-)


message 7: by Judith (new) - added it

Judith E I like your spin on how ŷ� likes are positive and not obsessive hunts for validation (not that I would ever hunt for that;). I “like� your comparison of Les Choses and Perfection and both warrant a tbr add.


message 8: by Ulysse (new)

Ulysse Those little red numbers are super addictive. Kinda like amphetamines. Question: are any of you able to predict the number of likes your review is going to get based on the book you are reviewing? And do you write a certain kind of review knowing you'll get more likes if you do so? This is a serious question. I loved your review btw, Fionnuala.


message 9: by Peter (new)

Peter Fionnuala, I think you’re hiding your light under a bushel. I’m often impressed by the work and depth of thought that must go into your reviews - I can well imagine them appearing in print! The review you wrote on this book (‘Perfection� - in more than one sense) is a good example!


message 10: by Fionnuala (last edited Apr 03, 2025 06:30AM) (new) - added it

Fionnuala Cheryl wrote: "And here I am to add a “like� to this Fionnuala :)
Personally, I see GR as a book club of sorts, and I’m most interested in finding books and book discussions, but I can see how this platform could turn into a “like� race, in fact some reviews show up numerous times because they are being reposted for more likes..."


Thanks for clicking the Like button and giving me another little buzz, Cheryl. Thanks too for your interesting comment that adds to this debate.
It sounds as if you use GR in a very healthy way, seeking interesting discussion more than personal validation. I admit to seeking both but I'm not competing with others in any Likes race as the number of Likes others get for reviews of the same books don't impinge on me at all—their reviews and mine are inevitably so different anyway.

However I do add my new reviews to the updates more than once in the 48 hours after initially posting them in the hope that friends who don't log on often may catch them—but I'm also careful to delete the earlier posting from the feed (easy to do via my profile page) so that friends don't find my latest review more than once as they scroll their own feed. But am I motivated by Likes? Yes, I think I definitely am!
By the way, I don't think there's any particular lesson in this book—except that perfection is hard to find!


message 11: by Greg (last edited Apr 03, 2025 06:37AM) (new)

Greg Now I know a little of what it feels like to be a pusher! I'm inspired to listen Curtis Mayfield's Pusherman after not doing so for years. Off to my record collection right now!


message 12: by Violeta (new) - added it

Violeta A thought-provokong review rich in insight and literary comparisons, the perfect justification for joining this site. That 'little rush' you so honestly admit feeling, Fionnuala, inevitably follows when you decide to share your thoughts here, because we all love to get acknowledgment of our projected, curated image, and everyone writes for an audience.
Yes, you are right, GR is the least vain of the social platforms, creative too. But I admit I'm not reading solely for the pleasure of reading any more, and however much my life as a reader has been enriched, it has also lost its spontaneity.

I find the premise of the book fascinating, it was about time someone did that theme. Perec's book sounds even more fascinating because back then the projection of a curated image was a more subtle affair, if only due to the primitiveness of the means available.
I'd like to read both books, back to back, they lend themselves for a nice sociological comparison, thank you for bringing them to my attention.


message 13: by Fionnuala (new) - added it

Fionnuala Barbara K wrote: "What thoughtful reflections on your reading and reviewing habits, Fionnuala! I’m pretty sure I read differently since joining GR, but it’s been an evolutionary thing..."

Thanks for posting your own interesting angle on reviewing, Barbara. I used to be uncomfortable too when writing opposing thoughts on books that friends had recommended to me but like you, I've grown stronger and firmer in my own responses.
I'm glad to see that you also think that sharing our book thoughts here is healthy, and that it's simply a nice bonus when we get the buzz of Likes and comments.
Plus as you say, it takes our minds off things like...(view spoiler)


message 14: by Tony (new)

Tony Well, now you've got me thinking again . . . for the 856th time! Yes, yes, and yes for how we read here. Writing reviews helps the aged remember that novel read just a month ago. There was no need, before, to stuff copious notes between the pages. Oh, I used to offer enigmatic opinions on what I read; it's just that now I don't physically hold onto my listener's lapels and smell like beer.

Speaking of which . . .

To put a positive spin on a wretched time, perhaps we should take a sip of something every time we hear the word masked by your (view spoiler) in message 13.


message 15: by Dolors (last edited Apr 03, 2025 08:28AM) (new)

Dolors Hah, Fionnuala, I hesitated for a moment before clicking the "like" button on your review. This urge to share every reading thought publicly might reveal our (hidden?) desire for connection in a world that often feels isolating, or perhaps it's simply our quest for acceptance and validation. Maybe both.

For me, having small kids (and a never-ending list of chores) has been a fantastic antidote to the malaise of "living online". My online activity has significantly decreased, and I must admit, I relish this newfound privacy. It's funny how life has a way of guiding us back to what truly matters....


message 16: by Fionnuala (new) - added it

Fionnuala Jan-Maat wrote: "...in the past we had to make do with round robin letters at Christmas and our photo albums- if we could persuade anybody to look at them..."

You're right, Jann, posting about our wonderful lives is not a new phenomenon at all! That's what those round robin letters were—all the good things the family had achieved in a particular year posted to their friends and relatives. They might mention that Granddad had died but they never told about how Johnny had been mitching from school or that Jeannie had been bullying her friends! The desire to present the perfect life is clearly a long-held one.
I never joined the round robin circle though I received plenty of them, and the reason I didn't was the fear of boring people I knew in real life. However, as it turns out, I'm quite happy to potentially bore people in the virtual world!


message 17: by Left Coast Justin (last edited Apr 03, 2025 09:08AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Left Coast Justin So you see, Fionnuala, although I did indeed 'like' your review, I believe the GR software support team should invest its (manifestly) limited resources in giving us more options. I'm looking for nuance here. For example, why not:

👍 -- Like

😢 -- My library doesn't have this book

😒 -- Your opinion is worthless

😘 -- I'm just here to try and find people to have sex with

🤷‍♂� -- Yeah, whatevs

( ) -- The "fuck you" middle-digit emoji is missing from my list of options, but would be used to indicate that I'm unhappy that your review is better than mine. In which case, I'd be using this one a lot on your feed.

===========================
None of the above is serious, by the way. One thing you didn't mention is the small rush people feel when other people, those people whose opinions we value, feel the same way about a book that we did. To me, this is even better than a 'like'. I fully agree that I felt no particular rapport with these people, but did feel enormous pleasure in seeing how the author put this story together.

And although I *did* see the note about Perec (the same guy who wrote an entire novel without using the letter 'e', or am I misremembering?), it didn't occur to me that any of my GR friends had actually read it. But if it's as good as this one, then I'll probably seek it out some day, when I'm in the mood to be depressed.


message 18: by Katia (last edited Apr 03, 2025 11:13AM) (new)

Katia N I’ve read “Things� in my teens, Fionnuala. It was very popular in Soviet Union when it was first written and translated. I presume it was late 60s? My aunt has managed to get hold of a deficit copy somehow. As far as I understood, it was read there then as a criticism of soulless consumerism of dying capitalist western society with its immorality and the lack of spiritual search. That was of course in juxtaposition to wonderfully spiritual, but much less consumeristic Soviet people. My cynical suspicion is that they were reading it just to find out which goods exist in the west:-)) I read it as it was in home and I was reading everything. At that age (late eighties) it did not strike me. I was too young and more in the mood of Victor Hugo which was on the same shelf. This is just a long prelude to say that I might read “Thkngs� again. But i do not plan to read this one. First of all I just cannot avoid hearing about it:-). So I know more or less what to expect including swing sex and the ikea plant:-). Another reason that it seems to be a book one can discuss without reading but aware of the trends on line, especially the millennials. I find it a bit tedious to be honest. I am more concerned with the younger generation radicalisation on line than with millennials soul searching ( "Adolescence" a Netflix series that is in the news for a few weeks and it is shocking as it is realistic) . However, I’ve listened to the one of interviews with Latronico and I plan to read a book he loved which seems to be as far from all of this as possible La iguana.

In terms of the likes “rush� it is a trickier question. I would be dishonest if I say I do not like them. But also I do not need them or a validation here. Maybe I needed it at some middle point of my presence here circa 2019. But not anymore. I’ve started all of this just to have a list of the books I’ve read and my thoughts about them. Then a social side has become a bonus. I was fortunate to get a small number of very good friends. And this engagement I treasure. As far as validation and popularity is concerned I think one can be motivated by this. There is nothing wrong with that. But partly it involves a big element of reciprocation (commenting on the maximum amount of someone’s else reviews or at least a very regular reviews of preferably popular books. And I do not have either time nor desire to do that at this stage. Sometimes I read a review and have nothing good to say. Sometimes it makes me feel a bit ashamed even as I do not think much of that particular text (even if I like the book). Plus currently it is quite difficult to follow the replies on the comments and even the new comments on my own reviews. I know the tricks, but it adds more unproductive time. So I figured out some more organic but a bit more random way of engagement with this site:-). In terms of my own reviews, i struggle to define whether my standards are more defined by myself or by thinking that someone might read it. But I am inclined to think the former:-)) I definitely do not think of my readers when I write (with small exceptions when I’ve read the book after someone’s feedback). However, when someone reads what I've written I am grateful and it makes me happy of course:-). And when someone comments I consider it is always as unexpected gift:-).

(edited for clarity)


message 19: by Fionnuala (new) - added it

Fionnuala Jeroen wrote: "...I can relate very much to your reflections in the first part about how it would affect our reading if GR didn't exist. I often ponder that question and am still on the fence whether GR is a blessing or not..."

I'm with you completely on the plus sides of GR reviewing, Jeroen: the more careful reading and thinking we do before reviewing a book, but I don't think I experience the negative side you mention: the over-awareness of others' opinions about what I may write. Perhaps it's because I've been posting reviews much longer than you have, and I've become completely insouciant over the years about the validity or not of my opinions. But one of these days, someone may come along and pull apart one of my reviews—and maybe then my 'sprezzatura' will fly out the window and be gone forever:-(


message 20: by Bogdan (offline) (new)

Bogdan (offline) I must have been in the same telepathic field with you and Nick, Fionnuala. While I haven't exactly had the premonition of your coming review � I simply know that you are ‘always reading, always writing about reading�, because you are famous for it � my mind whispered ‘Les chosesss� before my eyes reached the point where you mention that particular influence on this book. But, what was most telepathic in my case, was that yesterday evening I actually wrote “offline� in parentheses next to my name, just because (really) getting (completely) offline for a long time (but what would “long time� mean in our fast pacing times, I wonder) is a very big temptation for me these days � already GR is almost the last place I go online in ages. Nevertheless, I couldn't resist taking a peak at the GR feed just now, was hooked by the first lines of your review, had to press “read more�, I was engaged by and subscribed to your thoughts, then felt the urge to comment, but saw that others already said much of what I wanted to, only better.😮‍�

@Nick, I'm also curious about that film! Have you seen the mini series ‘Adolecence�? It's the greatest thing I saw so far about the impact social media can have not only on teens, but on their parents. A very strong family drama, really.


message 21: by Fionnuala (new) - added it

Fionnuala Judith wrote: "I like your spin on how ŷ� likes are positive and not obsessive hunts for validation (not that I would ever hunt for that;). I “like� your comparison of Les Choses and Perfection..."

Thanks for your feedback, Judith. When I discuss (rarely) my ŷ activity with real-life friends, I stress exactly that—how good it is to get feedback!


message 22: by Jeroen (new)

Jeroen Vandenbossche Here’s to your sprezzatura and insouciance! 🥂


message 23: by Noam (last edited Apr 03, 2025 11:04AM) (new)

Noam A fascinating review, Fionnuala. I have heard about this book before, but not about the link with Perec's book. Now I would love to read both books right away...

I find it reassurring to read that you ask yourself similar questions regarding your use of ŷ as I do. I am still searching for how to keep the use of ŷ enjoyable, not compulsive...

Indeed, if you keep distance from yourself, others cannot get closer to you either. It is a paradox that social media users who supposedly share a lot, just like Anna and Tom, are at the end at a distance from themselves and others. But what about us? I would like to believe that you know me to a certain extent, just like I know you. What do you think?


message 24: by Paolo (new) - rated it 1 star

Paolo La recensione e la discussione sono sicuramente più meritevoli del libro che in sé è abbastanza inutile e per certi versi pericoloso.
L'autore ha scritto una nota di copertina per un libro che descrive in modo molto indulgente un giovane estremista neofascista. Della categoria che adesso sono al governo in Italia.


message 25: by Paolo (new) - rated it 1 star

Paolo (Jeroen sa l'Italiano meglio di me...)


message 26: by Judy (new)

Judy As always, you nailed it! I felt like I was reading myself in the first paragraphs. In fact, I might as well thank you for that. It saves me having to write it. I am very glad that you review books on ŷ and that we are friends on ŷ and that at least we read good books!


Adina (notifications back, log out, clear cache) I've had similar thoughts while reading this novel. I like your conclusion i will use it to justify my presence here.


message 28: by Fionnuala (new) - added it

Fionnuala Ulysse wrote: "...Question: are any of you able to predict the number of likes your review is going to get based on the book you are reviewing? And do you write a certain kind of review knowing you'll get more likes if you do so? This is a serious question..."

What's a poet doing asking marketing questions!
But to answer half seriously, Ulysse, I never know what reviews are going to be popular in advance. Sometimes a review of an obscure classic can earn more Likes than a review of a contemporary prize-winner.
And I don't think I write reviews with preconceived intentions to make them popular, though I always hope that whatever (sometimes idiosyncratic) angle I take will work as a review and will rhyme somehow with the content of the book.
But I do admit, Ulysse, that I had a feeling the angle I chose here would spark a good discussion:-)


message 29: by John (new)

John Of Oxshott Many of the reviews I've read on ŷ are more authentic than what I've read in newspapers and literary journals. There has been a trend on YouTube (at least in what is suggested for me to watch) of people saying that they are leaving ŷ and joining other book tracking sites but I think there is something old-fashioned about ŷ in a good sense in that the people posting reviews still care about reading books for what they get out of them rather than what they add to their social media profile. If you are motivated to write a review for any reason, that must be a good thing because it deepens your engagement with what you've read and you will probably remember it better. As with all your reviews, Fionnuala, you make it personal and while journalists sometimes do that I think they rarely get the space they need to do it in quite as much depth as you do. But I think it is the personal aspect of a book's impact that most people enjoying reading about. I do, anyway.


message 30: by Laysee (new)

Laysee Your review offers a fascinating reflection of our book reviewing on this site and what it can mean for us. I can relate to that tiny rush we sometimes feel when a review is liked although I do not write reviews to get likes. I must say I tend to put more care into what I write knowing it will be read by some. Like you, I am grateful for this moment, for the opportunity to write and be read, for the discussion that follows, for new books to read. Thank you, Fionnuala, for your reviews and enriching our interactions on GR. It’s a connection I treasure.


message 31: by michelle (new)

michelle So, here's my contribution to your daily dose of 'little rush'.... Am glad that I can at least do that when I have nothing of value to add (as is often the case) to all your close to 'perfection' reviews! ;) Thanks for the treats!


message 32: by dianne b. (new)

dianne b. Nothing about reviews or likes - sorry - but simply something that the story brought to mind.
An old statistic that many couples sought divorce within 5 years of moving into their "dream homes".
In California (where I grew up) this happened frequently after couples/families moved into the houses they actually designed and built. I always imagined two people could avoid addressing any, perhaps all, significant issues thinking that problems would magically dissolve when they live in their Dream House. Or in this novel's case - perhaps - their perfectly curated montage?


message 33: by David (new)

David I guess we are all guilty of the big search for “likes� on any social media platform. Such a fine reflection Fionnuala. I am curious about the Perec book.


message 34: by Paul (new)

Paul Very perceptive review Fionnuala


message 35: by Fionnuala (new) - added it

Fionnuala Peter wrote: "Fionnuala, I think you’re hiding your light under a bushel. I’m often impressed by the work and depth of thought that must go into your reviews - I can well imagine them appearing in print..."

Thanks for your kind words, Peter. It's true I do put a bit of thought into the reviews I deliberately add to the Update Feed. If I don't have time to write something I'm happy with, I simply write a one line comment for my own records and then I don't tick the box that would add such a review to the updates in the hope no one will see it. I guess I'm not such an addict for Likes after all!


message 36: by Fionnuala (new) - added it

Fionnuala Greg wrote: "Now I know a little of what it feels like to be a pusher! I'm inspired to listen Curtis Mayfield's Pusherman after not doing so for years. Off to my record collection right now!"

Lord, Lord!


message 37: by Ulysse (new)

Ulysse Fionnuala wrote: "Ulysse wrote: "...Question: are any of you able to predict the number of likes your review is going to get based on the book you are reviewing? And do you write a certain kind of review knowing you..."

Ain't it hard not to like likes? ;-)


message 38: by Fionnuala (last edited Apr 04, 2025 02:51AM) (new) - added it

Fionnuala Violeta wrote: "…That 'little rush' you so honestly admit feeling, Fionnuala, inevitably follows when you decide to share your thoughts here, because we all love to get acknowledgment of our projected, curated image, and everyone writes for an audience.
Yes, you are right, GR is the least vain of the social platforms, creative too. But I admit I'm not reading solely for the pleasure of reading any more, and however much my life as a reader has been enriched, it has also lost its spontaneity..."


Thanks for giving the subject some well considered thought, Violeta.
I can see how our reading choices risk becoming less spontaneous because we intend reviewing them, and how we might end up selecting them based on how they will fit with the well-curated image of ourselves as readers we want to project here.
My own reading choices have definitely changed since I joined ŷ but I think that's because I've been exposed to authors I'd never heard of before, and have realised that there are far more interesting books out there than I used to read about in the newspapers I browsed or found in my local library or bookshop. I used to follow the Booker Prize and the Pulitzer back then, and I'd always read some of them but I don't do that much anymore because I now realise I'm drawn more to books that would never win popular prizes. And when I choose what to read now either from my physical unread pile or because of a friend's recent tempting review, I'm still motivated by the simple urge that always motivated me: I really want to read that!
So I think I've remained spontaneous—though my book choices are different and often more challenging than they were twenty years ago. There are authors I liked then that I can't read now, not because of any ŷ image I may be trying to maintain but because I've evolved as a reader, and my GR friends, over the fifteen years I've been here, have helped me to do that
Thanks for inspiring me to think all this through, Violeta.


message 39: by Claire (new)

Claire One of the great advantages of having a space to write reviews (another genre of writing) is exercise, this is a kind of writing gym, where you hone and tone the writing muscle, without having to be in that other space of writing a book or having a boss! The rush helps sustain it, whereas it used to be a more solitary exercise. And then the fact that it's also a brain exercise! So many benefits to keep up the words, the thoughts, the interactions, or 'reviews' if that's what we want to call them. :)


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Chris St Laurent Lots of good for thought in your review, I have asked myself am I reading this book for ŷ or for me, I need to get back to my authentic self sometimes and not care what other’s think.


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Ilse The sensation of that little rush of dopamine, likely it is familiar to most users of GR, Fionnuala. I think recognizing that sensation helps readers who are not active on other social media understand something about the world outside of books (and maybe our offspring), and why smartphones became so present in our lives, and like you do, reflect on what we (want to) do with our reading, why we review (for me a way to engage more deeply with what I read), comment, click "like". It is fascinating and inspiring to read in your thread how everyone here tries to find a viable and healthy way to navigate through it - knowing that unlike the ironic title of this book "perfection" isn't likely what will be the outcome. While I used to get odd looks when I tried to talk books in real life, here I find fellow readers sharing that bookish passion, which makes GR a gratifying place to hang out, but also with the ambivalence of pressuring myself to review (on about ¼ of the books I read) and to be online, which reduces not only the time to read but also doesn't go well together with a growing tiredness of screens (work consisting for 95% of screen time) let alone more urgent matters like having the leaking roof mended - but how grateful I feel for every thrilling red dot and comment I see popping up and for having the chance to connect with kindred souls and to discover books reading the reflections of perceptive and eloquent writing readers like yourself - who even makes me consider reading a book I had immediately discarded in the library because of the sheer dislike of the title 😄.


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Fionnuala Tony wrote: "Well, now you've got me thinking again . . . for the 856th time! Yes, yes, and yes for how we read here. Writing reviews helps the aged remember that novel read just a month ago,..."

Thanks for reading most of those 856 reviews, my oldest GR friend —not old as in aged, or maybe, yes aged, as in well-aged in oak casks full of added colour! And thanks also for the 1004 wonderfully enigmatic little reviews you've posted on this site, and which have entertained me every single time, Tony.


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Fionnuala Dolors wrote: "...For me, having small kids (and a never-ending list of chores) has been a fantastic antidote to the malaise of "living online". My online activity has significantly decreased, and I must admit, I relish this newfound privacy. It's funny how life has a way of guiding us back to what truly matters..."

Thanks for a very stimulating comment, Dolors. Indeed, I cannot imagine how a person with young children would ever have time to be active on a site like this! But It's interesting that my life guided me in the opposite direction to the way yours has. I only started posting my book thoughts online when the youngest of my daughters left home for college.
But it wasn't that I was looking around for something to fill the gap, it was just that I met an Italian woman who told me about a site she used for cataloging books called Anobii. I joined that site and then discovered it was only one of many, and when I checked out ŷ, I thought the layout was better and so here I've been since. I still have the Anobii profile because that site has a feature ŷ doesn't have: it allows you to keep your shelves completely private so you can add any and every book you can remember without choking up your Friends' feeds. I enjoyed the experience of rewinding the years in an effort to get a glimpse of what I was reading as a child and a teenager—and it was surprising how many books I was able to remember that way. But I don't update my Anobii profile with books I've read since I joined ŷ, I just keep it to help catalogue the old stuff. Record-keeping is a big part of what drew me to both sites. I know I could simply keep a notebook but I've become very fond of the layout of my virtual shelves:-)


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Fionnuala Left Coast Justin wrote: "…One thing you didn't mention is the small rush people feel when other people, those people whose opinions we value, feel the same way about a book that we did. To me, this is even better than a 'like'. I fully agree that I felt no particular rapport with these people, but did feel enormous pleasure in seeing how the author put this story together..."

You're right, Justin, the sharing of enthusiasm for well-loved books is the best thing here—I'm glad to share an admiration for this one with you So few people in real life read what we read so the chances of having an exciting discussion with like-minded readers about what we've just read are very limited in the real world. I did get to discuss this book in my bookgroup but there was a tendency to dismiss the characters as over-privileged and in any case not well-developed enough, which I thought missed the point of this homage to Georges Perec.
You mentioned his book without the letter 'e'. I'm guessing that book will never appear as an ebook;-)
And thanks for your list of additions to the Like button. Fun fun. Still, I'm glad we don't have access to them. They might mean people would skip commenting and that would be such a loss!


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Fionnuala Katia wrote: "...As far as I understood, it was read there then as a criticism of soulless consumerism of dying capitalist western society with its immorality and the lack of spiritual search. That was of course in juxtaposition to wonderfully spiritual, but much less consumeristic Soviet people. My cynical suspicion is that they were reading it just to find out which goods exist in the west:-))..."

Ah that's such an interesting angle on the reception of Perec's book back when your aunt managed to find a copy, Katia, and yes, you were probably too young when you read it, too dismissive of the characters' hankering after bourgeois possessions! I was older when I got to it it, and already building my own little collection of 'things'.
And you explain well why you won't be reading Latronico's book. When we hear about a book everywhere, it can be off-putting... more later:-)


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Greg Fionnuala wrote: "Greg wrote: "Now I know a little of what it feels like to be a pusher! I'm inspired to listen Curtis Mayfield's Pusherman after not doing so for years. Off to my record collection right now!"

Lord..."


I was so snarky I forgot to mention how much I enjoyed the review. Never heard of book before and now it's on my radar list. Thanks. Now take another hit! 🥴


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Fionnuala Katia wrote: "In terms of the likes “rush� it is a trickier question. I would be dishonest if I say I do not like them. But also I do not need them or a validation here. Maybe I needed it at some middle point of my presence here circa 2019. But not anymore. I’ve started all of this just to have a list of the books I’ve read and my thoughts about them. Then a social side has become a bonus. I was fortunate to get a small number of very good friends. And this engagement I treasure. As far as validation and popularity is concerned I think one can be motivated by this. There is nothing wrong with that. But partly it involves a big element of reciprocation (commenting on the maximum amount of someone’s else reviews or at least a very regular reviews of preferably popular books. And I do not have either time nor desire to do that at this stage....

You mentioned the 'reciprocation' word, Katia. You're right of course, it works here on goodreads in the same way it works in trade matters:-)
As a general rule, people seem inclined to read only the reviews of people who read theirs, and more so when it comes to comments, and I understand that—though I read most of the reviews that tumble into my feed regardless depending on the time I have of course (but I just like reading reviews anyway:-).
And I think reciprocity may not always be a factor in exchanges on this site. Already in this comment thread, I've had comments from Friends I don't see in my feed, and most of the Likes I receive on a weekly basis are from complete strangers who find old reviews in the community pages. I think ŷ is quite an unusually generous place.


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Fionnuala Bogdan (offline) wrote: "I must have been in the same telepathic field with you and Nick, Fionnuala. While I haven't exactly had the premonition of your coming review � I simply know that you are ‘always reading, always writing about reading'..."

…and you, at the same time, were considering how addictive being online had become, Bogdan! Lots of synchronicity here—though we all need to be online to note it;-)
I wish you success at remaining offline for long periods. The balance I've worked out for myself involves logging in less for half the week—the busy other-stuff days—and then posting a review and logging in more to catch up with comments and others' reviews.


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Fionnuala Jeroen wrote: "Here’s to your sprezzatura and insouciance! 🥂"

Am I right in thinking that 'sprezzatura' was first used by Castiglione in The Book of the Courtier? Anyway I associate the word with the wonderfully cool manner he ascribed to the ideal courtier in that book—which I try to follow. I ignore his prescription for the ideal Lady. She was to be demure and not speak too much;-)


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Fionnuala Noam wrote: "A fascinating review, Fionnuala. I have heard about this book before, but not about the link with Perec's book. Now I would love to read both books right away...
I find it reassuring to read that you ask yourself similar questions regarding your use of ŷ as I do. I am still searching for how to keep the use of ŷ enjoyable, not compulsive..."


That's the way I'd like to keep ŷ too, Noam, enjoyable but not compulsive. The enjoyable part is easy—I thoroughly enjoy all the aspects of the site I use, the finding of friends' stimulating reviews in my feed, the exchange of book thoughts in the comment threads and GR book groups, discovering the existence of more and more interesting titles via friends' book choices, and especially the reinforcement of the knowledge that there are many many people in the world who love reading as much as I do, and who may be just as dreadful as me at filling their houses with tons of books—plenty of which in many of our cases are still unread in spite of our great love of reading!

But the compulsive part is definitely hard to manage—and maybe exactly for all the reasons I've listed that make this site enjoyable!


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