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Thank you for the tip. Well appreciated

after the third example in chapter two I literally said "ok. we get it! move on."
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My sentiments exactly!

Agreed!

This book was written 80 years ago. of course Dale will sound a little long-winded.

Most people these days have very short attention span.

I read "War and Peace", first published in 1865 and over 1,000 pages long. I thought that was great. Age has nothing to do with bad writing.

Wicky Jason wrote: "This book was written 80 years ago. of course Dale will sound a little long-winded. Most people these days have very short attention span."

Your point only proves that books in the olden days are more long-winded and ones need to be more accommodating when reading.

just because it's long winded does not mean the book only deserves 1 star. There must be some other points you dislike about the book.

Dale also mentioned in the beginning that this book is written as a lecture guide. Not happy with the writing style? go read edited versions later on.

But the examples are not boring, I found them interesting. They even show you how important is the point.

To explain why the author uses many examples, let's do a thought experiment.

Here are the 30 principles listed out. Read them, close the web, and see how many you remember:

Don’t criticize, condemn or complain.
Give honest and sincere appreciation.
Arouse in the other person an eager want.
Become genuinely interested in other people.
Smile.
Remember that a person’s name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language.
Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves.
Talk in terms of the other person’s interests.
Make the other person feel important–and do it sincerely.
The only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it.
Show respect for the other person’s opinions. Never say, “You’re wrong.��
If you are wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically.
Begin in a friendly way.
Get the other person saying “yes, yes�� immediately.
Let the other person do a great deal of the talking.
Let the other person feel that the idea is his or hers.
Try honestly to see things from the other person’s point of view.
Be sympathetic with the other person’s ideas and desires.
Appeal to the nobler motives.
Dramatize your ideas.
Throw down a challenge.
Begin with praise and honest appreciation.
Call attention to people’s mistakes indirectly.
Talk about your own mistakes before criticizing the other person.
Ask questions instead of giving direct orders.
Let the other person save face.
Praise the slightest improvement and praise every improvement. Be “hearty in your approbation and lavish in your praise.��
Give the other person a fine reputation to live up to.
Use encouragement. Make the fault seem easy to correct.
Make the other person happy about doing the thing you suggest.

How many could you remember after reading the lists? I would guess not many.

Our brain works in an interesting way. When it comes to memory, we have short-term and long-term memory. After we read something, our brain first stores the information in its short-term memory bank. This create an illusion that we could remember everything we just read but in reality we would forget them after 1 day. When the authors uses multiple examples, however, it makes our brain focus on a certain idea for a pro-longed period of time. Our brain, therefore, would be more likely to store the information in our long-term memory bank. All the examples serve as a tool to help us better remember the content of the book.

Despite this fact, I also agree with your opinion that there are way too many examples in the book. The author adds them in for good intend, but he fails to calculate the correct numbers of examples he should use and made the book boring from time to time.

Exactly

Exactly how I felt reading the book and ended up giving up on it, it was so repetitive.

I thought I was going crazy. I swear to God appreciate people in chapter 1 point repeatdd at chapter 2 where he talks about making someome feel important. Again in chapter 2 he says before that become genuinly interested in people. If you appreciate someone like in chapter 2 you ate already interested with them. Lets say they arent exactly same thing since appreciation reserved for people you can find something to appreciate but you should give honest interest to someone you just meet. Fair but then making someone feel important section examples he gave like old ladies car deliberatly repeats feeling appreciated and interested on that person many times. When you appreciate or simply interested on someome you make them feel valued. That sections was pure repetation and fluff to me and I think all three sections could be summerized into one. Genuinly be interesed in people and appreciate when you can. Done.

All "self help books" are like this, keep repeating same phrases. It gets tedious as you said, like when you start a new tv show you are so much into the character and after a while you just don't care.
When book is finished and after sometime we all forget those practices which we learnt in the books or atleast i do that alot. So repeating does help to make you remember the knowledge you gained to be useful at the moment you actually need it.

Yes, maybe it was repeptitive. But thats only because he went deeper in on the subject I guess. All things are related to eachother in some way. But really they are different.

I just started the audiobook and it’s so boring & i actually enjoy self help books. The narrator sounds like he’s from the 1800s. I’m going to give it another go because of the high ratings but so far im not getting the hype. Just boring stories

Felt the same about this book!

Sounds like you are an expert at reading cliff notes and getting surface level information out of a book. Good work. But, to read a book and actually apply anything it teaches, you need to actually read it and not just skim through to what you decide is meaningful. Maybe your IQ is mega 200 something unlike the rest of us mere mortals, but repetition is exactly how most humans learn. Good authors that are actually trying to teach something to their audience will frame the same concept in multiple different ways with different nuances to help readers retain information. Reading the cliff notes version of any self-help book is a waste of time, because you will never take the information in in a way that allows you to apply it to your life. I personally have read this book multiple times and have taken new understandings away every single time I've read it. Real-life learning is an iterative process.

Totally agree!!
Your money and time is not worth to be spent reading this so-called best-seller book.

I agree!

The point of the stories in each chapter is to familiarize yourself with the principle and see how it applies in different circumstances. It's the difference between being told to memorize a list of formulas for solving triple integrals and actually seeing them being solved in different examples.

I start this book every 6 months and then put it down cause of this.

I do agree, it is a bit dull at times. I found some of the examples to be really quite ridiculous and the parts where he would write, “i am going to repeat that�� and then rewrite the same paragraph again made me roll my eyes. Having said that, there is the odd nugget of wisdom in there that i do still think makes it worth at least one read, although i doubt it will change many peoples lives.

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