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Night and Day by Virginia Woolf
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One way of describing Night and Day might be a comedy of manners without the comedy. Much of the novel takes place in a Victorian drawing room. Katherine Mansfield famously took exception to Woolf’s utter disregard of the war that had recently taken place. And it’s true there’s something distasteful about the relentless vivisection of nuanced sexual emotion that occupies much of this novel. Like Lawrence but without his vitality and flaming insights.

It’s difficult to place exactly when this novel is set. There are allusions to the suffragettes but no mention of the war which is a jarring contradiction. It’s as if Woolf is warping historical context for her own artistic ends. Nothing wrong with that if the end product is successful but it just isn’t here. At times the various characters seem to be living in different centuries. The house in which Katherine, the heroine, lives is Woolf’s childhood home which would place it in the late 19th century. It’s apparently a portrait of her sister Vanessa but at this time in her life Vanessa was already ripping to shreds many of the Victorian social constraints Katherine struggles with. What Woolf is attempting to do is show through the divergence of generational social mores the transition from the Victorian to the Edwardian age, something Forster was already doing with much more subtlety. There’s little of Forster’s playful disregard for realism, his mischievous lightness of touch here. This is porridge in comparison.

Katherine has two choices for a husband. William, a slave to convention and appearances and Ralph, the penniless idealist who tends to fall in love with creations of his imagination rather than flesh and blood women. Not much of a choice, in other words. It was odd to trawl through nearly 500 pages of Woolf writing about romantic sexual feeling considering how little interest she was to take in it in later life, both in literary and personal terms. I’d say she was wise to drop it as a principal theme of her writing. It’s also interesting how dismissive she was of the novel’s suffragette. There’s barely any indication in this novel that Virginia would go on to write the ground-breaking novels that followed. She had a breakdown after finishing The Voyage Out, and perhaps fearing she had ventured too far into perilous parts of her mind played it safe with this one. True, it’s a more controlled novel than her debut but essentially, it’s hard to view it as anything but much ado about next to nothing. It’s a novel the interfering Victorian aunt in this novel probably wouldn’t disapprove of. Perhaps an act of clearing out her closet and all its Victorian appendages. Katherine Mansfield did her an invaluable favour by dismissing it as decorous. It stung her into changing her entire perspective.
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Simon Robs (‘Loro rimasero felici e contenti,/E noialtri qua a sfregarci i denti.�) Heehee~


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Kalliope Perfect opening sentence.

.. and then well crowned with this one.

...it’s hard to view it as anything but much ado about next to nothing.


Violet wells Kalliope wrote: "Perfect opening sentence.

.. and then well crowned with this one.

...it’s hard to view it as anything but much ado about next to nothing."


Thanks Kal. I love her to bits but this was even more hard work than I remembered it being.


Lisa This is on my more urgent to-read-list, Violet, and it is great to read your honest reflections on it first. I have VW phases, and my appreciation of her work is like a strange pendulum, so I'll be curious to see what I will make of this one - it seems to be more divisive than her other work.


Bloodorange I remember kind of liking it, but 'reformed' Woolf is not one of my faverite authors.

Also, it seems Katherine Mansfield was rather universally hated by the Modernists (I got this from reading Constellation of Genius).


Violet wells Lisa wrote: "This is on my more urgent to-read-list, Violet, and it is great to read your honest reflections on it first. I have VW phases, and my appreciation of her work is like a strange pendulum, so I'll be..."

For me, it's her least successful, Lisa.


Violet wells Bloodorange wrote: "I remember kind of liking it, but 'reformed' Woolf is not one of my faverite authors.

Also, it seems Katherine Mansfield was rather universally hated by the Modernists (I got this from reading Con..."


Poor Katherine was hated by just about everyone!


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Fionnuala Great to revisit this book through your eyes, Violet. I love your point about it not being clear which century it's in - that was the case of The Voyage Out too. But
I thought this book had more assurance than her first novel, and, yes, there are mistakes, but different ones.
Did she need K Mansfield's criticisms to move forward? Perhaps - but there must have been an evolution going on in her thinking anyway don't you think?
But as to it being the least successful of her books? I think that has to be The Years. Night and Day was a lot more coherent for me than The Years.


Simon Robs Fionnuala wrote: "Great to revisit this book through your eyes, Violet. I love your point about it not being clear which century it's in - that was the case of The Voyage Out too. But
I thought this bo..."


Yes to all these gentle says.


message 10: by Violet (last edited Dec 18, 2017 02:35AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Violet wells Fionnuala wrote: "Great to revisit this book through your eyes, Violet. I love your point about it not being clear which century it's in - that was the case of The Voyage Out too. But
I thought this bo..."


I think Voyage out was more inspired but less controlled than this. There weren't really any fabulous passages in this one. It was as if she was trying to prove herself to be a professional novelist and she did succeed in that but she doesn't take a single risk. Yep, I agree about The Years - a baffling novel. I've only read it once and didn't much care for it. I'll probably try that again too soon. I think Mansfield did give her a jolt - less with her review of this than with her own work. She admitted she was jealous of KM's writing and the Woolfs published Prelude which in terms of freshness and innovation makes N&D seem fusty and laboured, as if a generation separates them.


Dolors A very perceptive critique, Violet. Lawrence also came to my mind when I read this novel, but not quite in such an unfavorable light. I enjoyed the dance of the four characters involved (let's not forget Mary), even though a bit clichéd, but still casted in a new light, that of Woolf's punctillious description. Also, I remember the Thames as a stellar setting in the story, with its flowing stream foretelling historical and social changes that were about to become.
I am slowly getting acquainted with Mansfield these days, and I see how Woolf might have considered her a rival, although I still believe Woolf's greatest contestant was herself.


Violet wells Dolors wrote: "A very perceptive critique, Violet. Lawrence also came to my mind when I read this novel, but not quite in such an unfavorable light. I enjoyed the dance of the four characters involved (let's not ..."

Thanks Dolors. The evocation of London was probably my favourite part of the novel and you're right about how well the Thames featured. I wasn't very enamoured with any of the young characters, especially the males though I did like Mrs Hilberry.


message 13: by Henry (last edited Dec 20, 2017 04:50AM) (new)

Henry Avila Very well done Violet, a thoughtful, insightful review of a rather complex narrative if I'm judging you correctly. Haven't read this one , it looks though not as good as Lighthouse ...or Mrs.Dalloway.


Violet wells Henry wrote: "Very well done Violet, a thoughtful, insightful review of a rather compex narrative if I'm judging you correctly. Haven't read this one , it looks though not as good as Lighthouse ...or Mrs.Dalloway."

Thanks Henry. Long way behind Lighthouse and Mrs Dalloway in my opinion.


Cecily I enjoyed your typically thoughtful review. I've struggled with Woolf in the past, but found this more accessible. Maybe your greater knowledge was part of the impediment?


Violet wells Cecily wrote: "I enjoyed your typically thoughtful review. I've struggled with Woolf in the past, but found this more accessible. Maybe your greater knowledge was part of the impediment?"

Thanks Cecily. Context is a conundrum. I wish I could read this novel without any prior experience of Woolf. It shouldn't make much difference to one's evaluation but I'm sure it does.


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Ilse Your review on the evolution of her writing reminds me of the shift to modern art from the naturalistic expression to linear and chromatic harmonies emancipated from the conventional representation of nature, Violet - thanks to your fascinating write-up I am however still curious enough in wishing to taste the porridge :p.


Violet wells Ilse wrote: "Your review on the evolution of her writing reminds me of the shift to modern art from the naturalistic expression to linear and chromatic harmonies emancipated from the conventional representation..."

Yep, it's fascinating from that point of view, Ilse - to participate in her struggle to walk and run comfortably in all the customary Victorian underclothes she still hadn't managed to shed..


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