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Are we going to have one? Before Misty posted that she was for sure going to do a round 4, Lydia talked to me and Diana about maybe doing one... Do we want to do a challenge starting July 1st?

If so, was there someone ready to head it? If not, we had an idea.

What does this reading challenge entail? Like, what have the past ones been about?

Each one has been a bit different, but they've all been geared towards broadening your reading horizons by reading a new genre, or using someone's recommendations...

Current challenge:
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/3...

Previous challenges:
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/2...

http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...

http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...

They're fun because you do the tasks you feel like doing, and it's not a big deal whether you finish or not. I try to make a point of reading books from my bookshelf for the tasks... Half the fun is just making your list. I am a list maker. :)

Me too! I love agonizing over a good list. :)

Picking the books is by far my favorite part :)
I do want to head a challenge at some point, but I don't really have time between now and then to do this one... But I do hope there is a challenge 5...

Should I just go with it? Is there anyone I need to run it by first, Misty?

I say go for it Angela! I am excited to make the new list!!
Maybe check with Fiona first?

I'd be happy to help you plan the challenge if you want Angela! I'm getting ready to be finished with work for the summer so I'll have some time.

True, Fiona... but it's so much fun!!

We were thinking of doing an easy one for summer (it is time to relax, after all!) What if we just did an A-Z type one? A book for each letter of the alphabet? For example:

A: Angus, Thongs and Full-Frontal Snogging: Confessions of Georgia Nicolson
B: The Book Thief
C: Crash into Me

Of course we'd have to make some guidelines, but it'd be pretty straight forward, and we could still incorporate our top novels list and/or multiple genres.

What do you think?

Angela- I LOVE that idea!! You should just specify that you have to read like 5 different genres, a book from the top novels list, etc., but it can go anywhere in the alphabet. Don't know how to fit in the 5/10/15/20/25 points thing though....

Fiona- Sorry, didn't understand what you were explaining.

Got it Fiona. :) That'd be a way to make parts of it more challenging.

Kellee wrote: "Angela- I LOVE that idea!! You should just specify that you have to read like 5 different genres, a book from the top novels list, etc., but it can go anywhere in the alphabet. Don't know how to fi..."

I wasn't sure about the point value either... but maybe we set a flat value of 5 per book. And then if it's a new read (not a re-read) then you add 5 points to the total value (making it 10.) And if it's on the top novel list add 5 more points (making it 15.) And if it's also an award winner add 5 more (making it 20.)

Maybe for the genres you could get an extra 5 one time only for that particular style. For example, I like dystopian, but could only get the bonus 5 for one book even if I read three dystopian.

I can't see us being able to do the max on more than a couple of books, ya know?

Angela- That'd be perfect! Do it! :)

Okay... I'll start getting it together. :)

Going to do anything about the hard letters (Q, Z, etc.)?

Amy wrote: "I'd be happy to help you plan the challenge if you want Angela! I'm getting ready to be finished with work for the summer so I'll have some time."

Thanks for the offer, Amy!! It is much appreciated :)

But since I work with Diana, and we'd already discussed it, I think we'll have it covered.

We'll be ready for a new one in October... Maybe you and Kellee??

Kellee wrote: "Going to do anything about the hard letters (Q, Z, etc.)?"

Yeah, the group I "borrowed" the idea from said a book with that letter anywhere in the title. I think that's pretty fair.

I'll come up with a basic outline, and post it here for input and looking for holes/problem areas...

And how about 1/3/5 point bonuses if you reread a letter?

1 point for one additional, 3 points for second additional? That sounds good, too.

Poi-fect!

AngelaSunshine wrote: "Kellee wrote: "Going to do anything about the hard letters (Q, Z, etc.)?"

Yeah, the group I "borrowed" the idea from said a book with that letter anywhere in the title. I think that's pretty fair."

Which letters are you going to do that for?

I was thinking Q, X, Z... What do you think? I don't want to make it too easy either, and maybe some letters will just inherently have a low total point value. But it shouldn't matter much, if everyone's in the same book, ya know?

Everyone's in the same book? You mean boat? LOL

Q, X, Z, Y is what I'd do. But it is up to you.

So this would be a challenge that there is no finishing technically, then, because we could do the bonus for whatever time we have left, right?

LOL... Guess my head's in a book, huh???

Q-X-Y-Z sounds good to me, I'll go with that.

And yeah, it'd be unlimited, kind of like your monthly challenges. Well, except that there WILL be an end date.

AngelaSunshine wrote: "LOL... Guess my head's in a book, huh???

Q-X-Y-Z sounds good to me, I'll go with that.

And yeah, it'd be unlimited, kind of like your monthly challenges. Well, except that there WILL be an end date."

Yeah- you cracked me up!

You should give 5 points if it fits my monthly challenge too!

Hey, good call! I like that.

Here's my tentative challenge plan. Any wording that should be tweaked? Anything not clear?

Ground Rules:

1. The Challenge begins at 12:00 A.M. local time on 1 July 2010 and ends at 11:59 P.M. local time on 30 September 2010.
2. This Challenge is just for fun, so make sure you enjoy yourself and all the books you will be reading!
3. All books must be classified as Young Adult or Juvenile Fiction, unless otherwise noted in the task. If you local library classifies the book you chose as such, then the book may be included.
4. All books must be at least 100 pages long to count for any of the tasks, unless otherwise noted in the task.
5. Re-reads count, unless otherwise noted in the task.
6. Audio books and electronic books (unabridged), such as Kindle, all count for this Challenge. Page counts will be according to the Good Reads page count.
7. When reporting completion of tasks, please list the following:
a. The letter of the alphabet you are completing
b. The title of the book (with a hyperlink is super helpful!)
c. The author of the book
d. Total pages of the book
e. All additional tasks for that letter
f. Whether it’s your first book for that letter (5 pointer) or an additional read for that letter (3 pointer)
8. There is no limit to how many books you read for each letter, so there is no limit to the points you can earn. The person with the most points at the end is the winner! If there’s a tie, we will look at the total pages read.

A-Z Title Challenge:

1. Fill in each letter of the alphabet with a title of a book that you've read that begins with that letter (i.e. Angus, Thongs, and Full-Frontal Snogging for the letter A).
2. Articles (a, an, the) don't count in alphabetizing, so skip to the first letter of the next word (i.e. The Book Thief would count for the letter B, A Great and Terrible Beauty would count for the letter G, and so on).
3. Titles that start with or are entirely comprised of numbers, will be alphabetized by how they would be spelled when written out in English (i.e. 13 Little Blue Envelopes would count for the letter T for Thirteen).
4. The letters Q, X, Y, and Z will be special. The title will only have to include the letter to count (i.e. All Unquiet Things or The Bermudez Triangle). This isn't necessarily as easy as it sounds.

Point Value System:

For the first book you read for each letter, you will receive 5 points. For any additional books you read for each letter, you will receive 3 points each.

You may receive additional points for also meeting any of the following criteria:

- The book is listed on our WT Top Novel list (+5)
- The book is listed on our WT Group Bookshelf (+5)
- You have not read the book before (+5)
- The book is an award winner (+5)
- The book works for Kellee’s monthly challenge for July, Aug or Sept 2010 (+5)
- The book is a WT group read book for July, Aug or Sept 2010 (+5)
- You start or contribute to an existing discussion about the book (+5)

**Genre Point Bonus**
You may earn an additional 5 points for each genre you cover. Each genre bonus can only be claimed once per genre. The point is to try to get you to read every genre!

(For example, you would get 5 points for reading Uglies as your dystopian genre. You could then get 5 points for reading Graceling as your fantasy genre.)

Please note, if you don’t claim the points from the tasks, I will not give them to you. You have to tell me what points your books are eligible for!

I printed them out so I could read over them. That's a lot of directions to read online. LOL. But from what I've skimmed it sounds great!

I hear you!! I wrote it in Word but it lost all formatting and spacing when I cut and pasted. I couldn't be bothered to fix it yet :)

LOVE IT!!!!
I get it, but I was kind of in on the discussion. Didn't see any mistakes.

If the book is in the Ultimate Teen Book Guide can it count?

Kellee wrote: "If the book is in the Ultimate Teen Book Guide can it count?"

In lieu of being an award winner, or what are you thinking?

AngelaSunshine wrote: "Kellee wrote: "If the book is in the Ultimate Teen Book Guide can it count?"

In lieu of being an award winner, or what are you thinking?"

Some of the books in the guide are not categorized as YA, but I was wondering if the book is in the guide, can we read it for the challenge? No extra points, just be able to read it...

Kellee wrote: "AngelaSunshine wrote: "Kellee wrote: "If the book is in the Ultimate Teen Book Guide can it count?"

In lieu of being an award winner, or what are you thinking?"

Some of the books in the guide ar..."

Sure, why not.

Thanks :)

Just FYI:
I'm going to work on getting the monthly challenges for July, August and September up so that people can plan appropriately.

Another question :)
For award winners- any specification?
Can Newbery honors count too?
Does it need to be a major award?
I'm already working on my list, so just wondering :)

Kellee wrote: "Another question :)
For award winners- any specification?
Can Newbery honors count too?
Does it need to be a major award?
I'm already working on my list, so just wondering :)"

We'll leave that wide open for interpretation. I think honors count as well... :)

Thanks!

You've been busy, Angela! I think it looks good.

I'll get some holiday lists up for August and September over in Kellee's Ongoing Challenge. Remember to vote! 1 day left to vote for July's topic. Go to polls and scroll down.

This looks like a lot of fun! I've been wanting to get involved in a challenge again, and this one looks like a lot of fun!

I was thinking- With Q,X and Z, should/could/would it work to have an extra 5 points if you manage to find a book that does start with that letter? Just a thought...

Ashley wrote: "This looks like a lot of fun! I've been wanting to get involved in a challenge again, and this one looks like a lot of fun!

I was thinking- With Q,X and Z, should/could/would it work to have an ex..."

You have one in mind, Ashley? ;-)

Lol... Maybe. But, it's more a thought. I'll spend more time looking for one if it's worth more... Hehehe... ;)

When are we starting possibly?

Amy wrote: "When are we starting possibly?"

This is the July-September challenge. It starts on July 1st.

Great. Thank you!

Just a quick question on the genres. How are you setting them, Angela? For example: is dystopian its own genre or is it considered fantasy? Are mystery, horror, suspense their own genres? Etc... I could see some people trying to stretch it. Perhaps a list?

I have a list of genres if you want to use it:
Action/Adventure
Classic
Dystopian/Apocalyptic
Fantasy
Graphic Novel
Historical Fiction
Horror/Thriller/Suspense
Humor
Manga
Mystery
Nonfiction
Paranormal
Poetry
Realistic Fiction
Romance
Sci-Fi
Short Stories
Sports Fiction
War
Multicultural
LGBT
Religious
Folk/Fairy Tale